User talk:Binksternet/Archive24

DYK for Eliel Saarinen's Tribune Tower design
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Just want to say how I enjoyed finding this article. Now I know why I'm always thinking, "haven't I seen that ziggurat somewhere else?" Mangoe (talk) 19:30, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you! My favorite part of contributing to Wikipedia is the writing of a new article. It's even better when someone notices.   :)
 * Binksternet (talk) 19:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Tango
I started a list of tango dance companies which you just removed from both Tango and Tango Argentino. I am trying to gather information for the tango community about contemporary personalities and companies. I thought that creating the list was a good start so others would feel compeled to start adding information for it.

You seem to be a very experienced 'Wikipedian', and probably you could be so kind to suggest how I should proceed to get these articles and this information on the encyclopedia? Best D — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidTrichard (talk • contribs) 17:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * In general, the practice at Wikipedia is to make lists only of topics/groups/people that have articles written about them on Wikipedia. To get an article written about them, the dance group must pass a notability test such as the one at WP:GNG which says "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list.". Listing non-notable groups, choreographers and dancers is more like promotion than a proper encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 18:13, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Odd
. It's almost as if someone was trying to head off a legitimate edit warring complaint, such as you filed, by creating a sock for that purpose that would discredit it. Perhaps I'm being too suspicious, but I don't see any other possibility. Coretheapple (talk) 14:34, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's quite suspicious. It makes working on the BP article that much more distasteful. A lot is at stake for BP... Binksternet (talk) 15:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Mystery solved. See NW comment at bottom of My Rangoon theory went up in flames. Apparently it was a random goofball. Coretheapple (talk) 22:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Strange things afoot. Binksternet (talk) 22:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Wiknic 2013
"Wiknic 2013 Sunday, June 23rd · 12:34pm · Lake Merritt, Oakland Theme: Hyperlocal list-making" This year's 2013 SF Wiknik will be held at Lake Merritt, next to Children's Fairyland in Oakland. This event will be co-attended by people from the hyperlocal Oakland Wiki. May crosspollination of ideas and merriment abound!

Location and Directions

 * Location: The grassy area due south of Children's Fairyland (here) (Oakland Wiki)
 * Nearest BART: 19th Street
 * Nearest bus lines: NL/12/72
 * Street parking abounds

EdwardsBot (talk) 04:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Dang. I have some work to do that day. Binksternet (talk) 22:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Just a note
I didn't want any newcomers to the RfC to be intimidated by the enormous wall of words that the article Talk page has become. I had the impression that admins wanted this new RfC to start fresh. But if you want newcomers to fully review all of the misconduct that occurred previously, I suppose that everyone should defer to your judgment in this matter. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 21:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Earlier discussion should always be easily available at an RfC. This RfC is not so earth-shattering that it needs its own page. If it stay on the talk page (as it should) then the future archives will read more coherently. Binksternet (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Your PROD tag
Hi Binksternet. I saw the PROD tag you put on Homecoming Queen (Georgia Holt Song). Actually, that article was speedy-deleted a couple days ago by Orangemike right after I wrote him about it because it's clearly not notable and the editor, User:Robiyacher, is using their account solely to promote Holt and other Cher-related topics. In fact, Mike speedy deleted a couple other non-notable articles that Robiyacher created about Holt and Cher's sister. See this thread on Mike's talk page. Feel free to comment there. I'm not sure if it would be better to just remove your tag and let Mike delete it again, or if he can still delete it even with your tag there. Mike hasn't been on since Friday. In any case, thanks for your good eye on this. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 15:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Bloodhouse
Hello! I'm from Russia. What is bloodhouse? I didn't see this word earlier. Senior Strateg (talk) 09:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have never seen that word before. After looking around online, it appears to be 1) the name of a musical band, or 2) a group/clan/tribe of warriors in a game. Binksternet (talk) 13:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * What does Bloodhouse translate in the context of this sentence: Vila’s original hotel, long gone, was an absolute bloodhouse in the 1920s. (see the source). Does it means a musical band was playing in this hotel? Senior Strateg (talk) 17:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I see this sentence in a Lonely Planet guide discussing Port Vila. The context is a dangerous place, with wild amusements such as heavy drinking, fighting, gambling, etc. The word "bloodhouse" is dropped into the story with no particular precision; it is more in the form of emphasis on the danger. Binksternet (talk) 22:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Does it means in this hotel these events (gambling, fighting, etc.) did by people? Is it right? Senior Strateg (talk) 08:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The Lonely Planet author says that these events actually happened. Binksternet (talk) 09:48, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Senior Strateg (talk) 11:55, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: edits without summary
I did, in fact, leave an edit summary. It's available to read right there in the edit log. The section I removed is original research, far from NPOV, uncyclopedic, and in some ways downright inaccurate. Hence, removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.184.152 (talk) 15:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I put a warning template on your user talk page about deleting a whole section of midwifery, not about signing your name. The midwifery edit you performed was disruptive: it removed text cited to various studies. The citation style is parenthetical, which is one of the approved versions, though rare. Binksternet (talk) 15:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you didn't use the one you meant to, but actually, no -- it was about not giving a reason for the edit, which I did. It's completely uncyclopedic, as others have noted, not to mention full of grammar errors and NPOV issues, but whatever. Keep the bar low; nobody will notice anyways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.184.152 (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Can the section's prose be improved? Sure. Should it be deleted? Not at all. Binksternet (talk) 17:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * How persuasive. Doesn't change the fact that encyclopedias aren't really meant to make persuasive arguments and have a clear agenda/POV that's something other than providing objective information. Again, I understand that you do not understand that. Hence, not bothering with the article. You just happen to be incorrect, and Wikipedia continues to be just a little more embarrassing as a result. It's your territory to own -- my time goes towards more worthwhile pursuits. Have fun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.184.152 (talk) 19:50, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Mea culpa
Regarding this, after closer investigation, you were 100% right. The new content stinks, I'll work with Jyt to fix it. 03:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for keeping an eye on it. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 03:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Scientific pitch
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Chowkatsun and the uncreatively named sockpuppets
I started an SPI for his/her/its Hahababy Zhang account here, just FYI. Evanh2008 (talk&#124;contribs) 05:57, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I was busy expanding Aleksei Losev. Binksternet (talk) 11:44, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

RFC/U on User:Arzel
You took part in a discussion that dealt with user:Arzel, which took place here. There was a clear community consensus for a topic ban for user:Arzel. Many of the issue fell outside of discussion on TPM. With such a large community consensus and with arbitration committee only dealing with issues directly related to the TPM, I went ahead and started a WP:RFC/U, here.  You are invited to endorse this and to take part in the WP:RFC/U.Casprings (talk) 18:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I will take a look at the page tomorrow. Thanks for the notice. Binksternet (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking a look. There is still a lot of work to do on it.  That said, I struck the above message because it was pointed out to me that the message wasn't neutral and I sent it to everyone that commented on user:arzel discussion.  That discussion is here. Casprings (talk) 02:07, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

You're invited...
to two upcoming Bay Area events:
 * Maker Faire 2013, Sat/Sun May 18-19, San Mateo -- there will have a booth about Wikimedia, and we need volunteers to talk to the public and ideas for the booth -- see the wiki page to sign up!
 * Edit-a-Thon 5, Sat May 25, 10-2pm, WMF offices in San Francisco -- this will be a casual edit-a-thon open to both experienced and new editors alike! Please sign up if on the wiki page if you can make it so we know how much food to get.

I hope you can join us at one or both! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Jewish anti-BP editors
Why is it there is a group of Jewish Wikipedia editors who are putting so much energy into attempting to turn the BP Wikipedia article into an attack piece? It is raising questions in various places.2.101.0.131 (talk) 20:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * And you can tell they are Jewish how?  little green rosetta $central scrutinizer (talk)$ 20:29, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Some people here think I'm Jewish, and others think I'm antisemitic. The evidence for either position is completely absent, so I'm always surprised at the assumption. Binksternet (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I was at a serious argument once in which a jewish person accused two other jewish folks of being anti-semetic, so it could all be true about you too. Or not. Carptrash (talk) 20:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

RFC/U on user:Arzel
You took part in a discussion that dealt with user:Arzel, which took place here. Based on that discussion, I started a WP:RFC/U, here.Casprings (talk) 02:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Adding value
Well done. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Binksternet (talk) 18:15, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Rumours
Well, they have released the 35th Anniversary Box Set Edition, and this inevitably leads to new reviews and ratings for the album. Since, we are in a new era for critics, when it comes to music, about all of them provide ratings with the new reviews. This leads me to create this, which I want to know what do you think of it, and how should we go about incorporating it into the article as it presently exists. So, what should we do with this new material for this classic album with respect to this new major re-release.HotHat (talk) 06:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Put it into the article, and if folks want to work on it, they will.
 * Questions like this are best placed on the article talk page. Binksternet (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Bordel militaire de campagne
You added Comfort women (women coerced and raped by Japanese soldiers during World War II) in see also. Your addition seems Bordel militaire de campagne has a relation to coerced and raped women. It's not good edition.--Syngmung (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * There is the very important matter of proportion. How many Japanese comfort women were unwilling? By far the majority were unwilling, many thousands of them, perhaps 200,000 or 300,000. I think that you have been trying to undermine this fact by portraying comfort women as willing participants. Binksternet (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You dont get point. According to your logic, Bordel militaire de campagne is no relation to comfort women. Do you understand? Comfort women should be moved from Bordel militaire de campagne. But I dont want so.--Syngmung (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You also have POV. See.--Syngmung (talk) 15:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I think comfort women should be removed from the "See also" section of Bordel militaire de campagne because in the French case the women were mostly willing prostitutes but in the Japanese case the women were mostly coerced and raped. Binksternet (talk) 21:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Linn Products
Thanks for keeping an eye on the article. This revert certainly made sense. Much of that information does not directly relate to the company. I would just say that you will probably find that that info is already in the product article. Regards, --  Ohc  ¡digame!¿que pasa? 04:29, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Vladimir Ronin
I have posted a response to your entry on the AfD, which you may care to consider. Kind regards Jono2013 (talk) 11:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the word of warning, which Ive acted upon and also as precaution removed record of it from my talk page. For the record, I did not raise a threat. I simply stated my opinion. Whether Ronin raises a legal action is up to him. It's none of my business, but note he is a very terse Russian. He does not "mess about". If that is to be construed as a legal threat by me, then I dont understand that. I have already posted his email on the pages dealing with the deletion of the images. And just to make plain, Ronin does not support the article. Which is why now that he believes his personality has been arguably disparaged, I construe that he is simply saying "enough is enough". (email below) Kind regards Jono2013 (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Från: Vladimir Ronin
 * Datum: 14 maj 2013 12:20:18 CEST
 * Till: "permissions-en@wikimedia.org" 
 * Ämne: Images on Energetically Modified Cement entry.


 * Dear Sirs:


 * It has been brought to my attention that a number of serious allegations have been made regarding usage of photos on the "Energetically Modified Cement" Wikipedia page. In order to close matters satisfactorily, I can confirm that I am the holder of the copyright of the source images set out in the article's page as of the May 13, 2013. There are seven (7) images on the page. With respect to each and every one of them, I confirm that I granted the originator of the page, the right to modify or amend them as he deemed fit for the purposes of the page. I also allowed the user to upload the files consistent with Wikipedia's usage policy and have no prohibition for other users to use any of the images, provided that such use is within Wikipedia's own rules.


 * I have seen the page and will not comment on its contents other than to state that the depictions are tasteful and the captions accurate. Beyond this, note that a purposeful decision was made that I would have no input on the page so that there was no possibility of any allegations of conflict of interest.


 * Let me be clear: I do not support the page, but I was, after persuasion and consideration, prepared to allow these pictures to be used, as I share the author's view that the EMC page substantially adds to the Wikipedia knowledge base in the material sciences subject. On this footing alone, did I grant my permission for the usage of the photos.


 * I now understand that the author of the page has had it alleged that he is both a "liar" and has committed a "fraudulent action" and a "hoax". This is disputed in its entirety. I am entirely satisfied that any upload was made in good faith, in reliance of the permissions I had granted, and upon a good faith interpretation of Wikipedia policy that is consistent with international copyright law.


 * I also understand that it has been alleged by a separate user that a stub article about me, has been written for reasons of "vanity". I find this allegation deeply disparaging and would ask that you contact me in the event any person ever makes any such allegation again. Like the main article, the said "stub" has been written without my input.


 * The EMC article was written from the "best intentions" perspective to increase Wikipedia's knowledge base in an area where it is very poor. EMC represents over 20 years of the highest academic rigor, and I will not easily allow it to be disparaged by those who have no knowledge. In this regard, I have already discussed with the author of the EMC page, that I, as a professor of material sciences, consider several of the "ancillary" pages concerning various "cementitious materials", to be inaccurate. The EMC page redresses this major imbalance and I cannot fault its accuracy or impartiality.


 * I trust this is to your satisfaction. I had no idea that goodwill intentions should cause the editor so much upset, nor then, cause me to be diverted from my work. I trust that those users who have impugned my name (which is impeccable) will be dealt with appropriately and look forward to your indication in such regards.


 * I am am concerned that the nominations for deletion of the EMC page twice in barely over a week (together with the "stub") have not been made in good faith but for spurious reasons, and maybe even unsubstantiated mischief.


 * I also ask that my contact details are removed.


 * Below you will find formal attestation


 * Kind regards


 * ATTESTATION


 * I hereby affirm that I, Vladimir Ronin, in respect of the following SEVEN (7) files, am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the original images that were subsequently modified with my permission before upload to Wikipedia ("Work"):


 * 1. EMC RILEM Beam.jpg
 * 2. EMC CemPozz Sep 12.jpg
 * 3. EMC CemPozz Feb 13.jpg
 * 4. CemPozz Production Flow.jpg
 * 5. EMC Cement Natural Pozzolan Deposits (Southern California).jpg
 * 6. Bache Durability Test for Concrete.png
 * 7. EMC Cement (CemPozz) IH-10 Texas.jpg


 * I confirm that, to the extent required:
 * • I agree to publish that Work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts)
 * • I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
 * • I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
 * • I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.
 * • I am aware that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take action against anyone (including any Wikipedia editor) who uses this work in a libelous way, or in violation of personality rights, trademark restrictions, etc.
 * • I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the Work may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.


 * Dr, Vladimir Ronin


 * COPYRIGHT HOLDER AS AFORESAID

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A barnstar for you!
Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 23:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Chris Nickson book being used a source
Since you are quite good at finding the good sources and separate them from the bad ones, may I ask your opinion in this section of this Featured article? I'm afraid fansite inspired writing might be the case. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat  ] 15:56, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Email
I sent you an email in response to your query. If you don't receive it let me know and I'll resend. In short, I'm trying to stay out of that whole mess. --SouthernNights (talk) 16:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I totally get it. Binksternet (talk) 15:15, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVI, May 2013
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 13:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Question
I am not affiliated with the Musicians Hall of Fame or any artists that have been inducted so I am not "promoting" anyone or anything. Why can pages include awards and inductions to the Rock and Roll or Country Hall of Fame without references but you remove the MHOF references? They are clearly inducted. I can easily find articles about it but its frustrating that other organizations are not referenced. Thanks!

--Nash424 (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * What if you and me started "Nash and Bink's Hall of Fame", rented a building, and put memorabilia on the walls just like the Hard Rock restaurants? Would our hall of fame be worth including in somebody's biography if we induct them into it? That's what I'm getting at. The Musicians Hall of Fame certainly exists but is it notable? Do major newspapers and magazines mention it? Is it included in books? In music encyclopedias do you see the MHOF mentioned in the biographies of musicians? If the answer to all of the above is 'no', then I hold that MHOF is not important enough to include in Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 20:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Respectfully, have you researched this? I know I'm a huge music junkie but I have read about the Musicians Hall of Fame in Rolling Stones' magazine and I listened to a 30 minute documentary that the BBC did. When the city of Nashville bought their building and made them close and move it was on Fox News and CNN. They are getting ready to re-open and it's being covered on the news stations here which is why I was checking out their site. When I won tix to a induction ceremony Keith Richards, Booker T. & The M.G's and The Crickets were among the performers and inductees. Other inductions list Peter Frampton, Garth Brooks, Mary Wilson from The Supremes,George Jones and Vince Gill as a few of the performers. I just found links from The Tennessean, New York and L.A Times I can add. I was just following the format of the other Hall of Fames. Thanks for your response, --Nash424 (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I did research this, and I did not see the Rolling Stones piece, or the BBC documentary. If both of those cases are significant coverage of the MHOF then the organization is "notable" per Wikipedia's WP:General notability guideline, and the references to MHOF can stay in biographies, etc. Can you link to the magazine article, or the BBC piece? Binksternet (talk) 23:30, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

This isn't the Rolling Stone's article I saw but here is one: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kid-rock-keith-richards-help-induct-crickets-muscle-shoals-into-musicians-hall-of-fame-20081029

The BBC Documentary was produced by Bob Sugars. Here are pics from the shoot: http://www.sugarproductions.co.uk

Here is the advertisement for the documentary http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/hendrix_stage.shtml http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7697148.stm

Here is the TN Crossroads show from PBS http://wnpt.org/productions/crossroads/2008_jan.html

Fox News Coverage of the closing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO7S-4aIbQU

--Nash424 (talk) 18:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Was this adequate? --Nash424 (talk) 15:58, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, very much so. I have changed my position about the notability. I think Wikipedia should host an article titled Musicians Hall of Fame. Binksternet (talk) 16:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! --Nash424 (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library!

 * yay Bink! I'm so glad you've joined the project. Let me know if you need anything at all! Can't wait to see the magic you create for WDL. p.s. We will need to get together in Oakland! SarahStierch (talk) 15:08, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * My contribution will not be immediate: I have to get a stretch of days off before getting really creative. My busy season at work is right now, so I'm forced to be Mr. Short Attention Span. Binksternet (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Your POV edits
Are you checking the World War 2, Truman and Eatherly pages for possible POV links and following my edits. I think you are being POV and your rights should be revoked? 75.70.142.23 (talk) 15:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I am worried about damage to Wikipedia as a result of your editing behavior. Please stop violating the WP:No original research guideline. Binksternet (talk) 15:57, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm entering my source. I think you are being sensitive about the atomic bombing, which I understand, but I'm entering source and trying to be productive. I think you are impulsively reverting the edits, which doesn't make sense. I think you want Truman and Hiroshima bombing to look insignificant, which is POV. 75.70.142.23 (talk) 16:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * If you keep edit warring, I think you should lose your status as an advanced Wikipedia editor because you are not a neutral and open minded editor/manager. This needs to be brought up. 75.70.142.23 (talk) 16:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You are incorrect regarding what I "want" from the articles. I take my cues from mainstream published works many of which disagree with each other about the atomic bombs. They don't disagree about the minor role played by Truman.
 * Regarding "edit warring", I must point out that you have reverted to uncited versions. Regarding status as a Wikipedia editor, I must point out that one of us uses an established username while the other chooses to remain hidden behind IP addresses. Did you ever have a Wikipedia account? Was it blocked? Binksternet (talk) 16:06, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well you see that Truman was an angel and I see that he was responsible, which is totally understandable. Atomic bombing was a horrific thing and many people feel sensitive about it, but I'm trying to lay everything out there. There seems to be a lot of tendency to revert Truman, Eatherly and Hiroshima articles from the point of view of Americans, but being totally anal about sources in the articles will not work. Most of the Eatherly article itself doesn't have source so the article should be entirely deleted? I understand your sensitivity and trying to make Harry Truman an angel, but I don't agree with that point of view and you using you Wikipedia privilege to silence opposing view is not worthy of your Wikipedia status and you should become a regular editor. That is my point. I will keep making the point until people know all the truth about these bombings. I don't edit war on many difference articles, but these articles are totally POV from Americans right now. Most of the sources are from American sources and they are biased. 75.70.142.23 (talk) 16:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

I have looked at the article in question and believe that most of the articles problems stem from the fact that the references used can not be verified because the references used are not identified enough to locate or appear to be self published material. In any case, the are no page numbers cited. Until someone supplies good referencing, I honestly can't make much sense of the articles NPOV attributes or there is conflicting information. I corrected a few obvious errors in the article, but the issues germane to this discussion still remain. If I can help on referencing and citation formatting, I would be glad to help. First, I have to know what to format. Cuprum17 (talk) 18:29, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free to use whatever citation format you are most comfortable with. Thanks for digging in; the article was very poorly written. Binksternet (talk) 18:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Very much agree that the article is poorly written! The reason Eatherly was notable is covered in less than 25% of the article and while his problems after the war might merit some discussion, I believe that too much space is devoted to that issue. Cuprum17 (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes! The man's notable accomplishments should be foremost. Binksternet (talk) 19:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The article should be totally delete in that case. The entire article is poorly cited. The accomplishment of the man is the atomic bombing, and that is what we are arguing over. You are missing the point. 64.134.24.94 (talk) 02:09, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Whether I am right or wrong, thanks. That makes it twice I know of today where you have stepped into the murky waters. As the saying goes, "you don't have to be mad to work here, but it helps". - Sitush (talk) 00:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe my lower leg gets briefly dirty but you—you are swimming, even diving in the murkiness. Thank goodness someone is doing the dirty work!
 * All that is noble within me salutes all that is noble within you. Binksternet (talk) 00:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Appreciated. So, which am I doing?! - Sitush (talk) 00:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

David Jay Brown
Thank you for your work in reinstating, or recreating, this article. It's deletion made no sense to me at all.

If you have the time, could you look into another? Ted Andrews. This was a few years ago. Here's his deletion nomination, which had a "vote" of 8 deletes to 10 keeps, and yet was deleted. He was the author of 17 books through Llewellyn alone, and more through other presses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ted_Andrews Rosencomet (talk) 00:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome on Dave Brown. I remade the article because I took a look at the guy's notability by way of Google search and I thought he looked solid. When I get the time I will look at Andrews and see if there's enough to work with. (Just writing books is not enough.) If you don't see me doing something on it by July then poke me again. Binksternet (talk) 01:24, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, well done you on this article. I had been reading a series of articles on Qworty and found myself wondering if the deleted article had been saved. Good job! Capitalismojo (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I think we will forever have problems like the Berenise/Qworty one until Wikipedia requires proof of identity to register an account. I see no further need for the encyclopedia to be edited by anyone at all ("anyone can edit"), the emphasis on anonymity. That strategy was useful at the beginning, when growing the knowledge base was the primary concern, but not any more, now that we have a more mature product. Binksternet (talk) 21:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Mea culpa
I have a guilty conscience and need to make apologies to you, a respected editor and wiki-colleague/-friend. Making a long story short, I made the edits to Caleb V. Haynes this morning before I noticed that the article was GA. Even had I not known of your work on it, I still would not have made the edits without first contacting the main editor--in this case, you--as a simple courtesy had I been more careful. It was a case of runaway editor-itis caused by, get this, simply trying to link Haynes' portrayal in God Is My Co-Pilot (film), which I DVRed over the weekend. (Its article left him out.) This may have happened to you. You read through the article, note a few things (such as the infobox inclusion of the National Guard in his service) that cause you to look deeper, and next thing you know, you find THE ERROR, the pet peeve, the red flag that never fails to call to action, in this case the "725 miles at sea." The horror! So one thing led to another... I'm apologizing because (A) you're a good guy, (B) I should have known better before I started editing because the prose was so well-written, and (C) in the end, I was lazy. I went to bed right after I made the changes (I work all night and made the edits after I got home this morning). I won't claim it bothered me enough to wake me up, but it did bother me, and when circumstances conspired to make me have to double back to work this afternoon, the first thing I did when I got up just now was try to revert everything, give you the correct information about the minor errors in fact, and let you make the changes. Alas, too late. To be honest, I feel most guilty about adding the new subsections. We all have our style--one of mine is multiple sections for "easier" reading--and one is as good as another. The Haynes article didn't need my tinkering to make it GA and it was rude of me to assume that. So accept my apology, old buddy, and feel free to revert it in any way you think best. btw, if you check my sources, you'll see that 620 miles is itself a ballpark figure. Goss says "about 600 miles" and Correll puts it at 610. The 620 figure was Cavellini's, the ship captain's, quoted in the Air Corps Newsletter of the day reporting the incident and the primary source for Head's anecdote about the airmen being "invited down to lunch." (I chose 620 for that reason to include in Interception of the Rex as the most contemporary and possibly the most accurate.) There is no doubt, however, that the 725 came from the Rex's position report brought to LeMay as his B-17 was taxiing for takeoff four hours before the intercept. Lesson learned on my end.--Reedmalloy (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, GA-level writing is not FA-level, and certainly not sacrosanct by any stretch of the imagination. You are perfectly welcome to jump in and make the article perform more satisfactorily for the reader. And I do not have WP:OWNership issues about the biography, which you did not accuse me of but which seemed to me to be an element of your restlessness and worry.
 * So, thanks for your involvement! I appreciate the changes. Binksternet (talk) 18:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Peer review/Crusades/archive1
G'day, I reckon this PR might be stale. Not sure if it was templated right when it was put up. Could you have a look? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The last comment was from Casliber on 11 May 2013‎. I expect PeerReviewBot will archive this PR after three weeks of inactivity, which will be in couple of days. Binksternet (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Irish Civil War
Careful with this instantly recognisable sockpuppet, drawing you (as he did me) into 3RR exchanges - others will catch up and help with reverts. Brocach (talk) 21:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but I am not worried about 3RR when reverting a banned sockpuppet. Such reversions do not count toward 3RR. Binksternet (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Correct. Keep up the good work. RashersTierney (talk) 21:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, was only trying to offer help. Well done. Brocach (talk) 22:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I welcome any and all help in keeping banned User:HarveyCarter at bay. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 22:07, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Liberation of Dadra and Nagar Haveli
Will you explain this revert. You re-added a bunch of original research which was deleted. I hope you check your edit. --Neelkamala (talk) 04:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I will look at the text in question, along with examining the sources with regard to the word "Liberation" in the article title. Binksternet (talk) 15:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Pacific War
So why isn't Canada and Australia put under the United Kingdom?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhilmn2002 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Binksternet, I have just noticed your warning to our friend above about the three revert rule. To make you aware, he is also close to breeching it on the Mediterranean and Middle East theatre of World War II article. I have asked him, via edit summary, to take his position to the talkpage rather than editwar. Regards.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 05:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for David Jay Brown
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you! Binksternet (talk) 22:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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You've got mail
Hey Binksternet, I'm following up on an email I sent you last week, asking for your insights on editor engagement. If you didn't get that email, could you please contact me at, so I can tell you more? Thanks! Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 19:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I responded by email. I look forward to joining the discussion. Binksternet (talk) 20:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Harvey Carter
He was editing before under a 92.7 IP cluster and you, or whoever, banned him: Talk:Mau_Mau_Uprising. I am suspicious, because two IPs (88.104.220.8 - 88.104.212.103) are now back on the Mau Mau article, both from a cluster, and have been making the same predictable changes to the Mau Mau article—predictable in as much as the 88.104.s want to play down the negative role we Brits played in Kenya. One change was made because the "[o]riginal wording implied colonialism was negative"! Never mind that the article was using the exact wording of one of the sources used ("hardest hit") for that sentence! Here's the diff of me undoing it, but I subsequently changed my mind and toned it down by using the wording of the other source used (Füredi). Anyway, the new IP cluster editing in the same way that the HarveyCarter made me suspicious, and so I thought I'd call your attention to it seeing as you were involved before. LudicrousTripe (talk) 19:48, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * 89.168.124.200 – This can only be a sock IP! See the Mau Mau article edit history! LudicrousTripe (talk) 22:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * A sockpuppet is identified by behavior, so you are probably right about IP 88 and 89. However, they are operating in Moray and Aberdeen rather than southeast England, so that puzzle would have to be accounted for. Perhaps Harvey is traveling? Binksternet (talk) 01:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Army National Guard page
I got your note. I agree. It's a work in progress. When I get done, the content will be arranged more logically than it was when I started, it'll be more complete, and I'll include wiki links and footnotes. Billmckern (talk) 01:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see! In that case, you might consider working offline, copying the article into your userspace to minimize disruption in mainspace. You could create a user sandbox space such as User:Billmckern/sandbox or User:Billmckern/Army National Guard or User:Billmckern/ANG. I will leave you to it. Binksternet (talk) 01:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I usually work offline and then paste my edits in when I'm done. I just got into it yesterday while I was typing during a break at work and didn't realize until too late that the it was time to go. As a result I saved my edits rather than lose them. Billmckern (talk) 10:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

You're not the first
Hi Binksternet, I'm not sure if you're aware that you are not the first editor that CSDarrow has accused of being a bully tonight, and who he's threatened to report. See this discussion on Bbb23's talk page. As I told him, I don't think things are going to work out well for him. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 02:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I checked that out a few minutes ago. He's on a roll, but into foul territory. Binksternet (talk) 02:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Editors who ignore the fact that everyone is telling them they're wrong, yet choose to fight them all and make bogus claims and threats, is very problematic. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit alert
Hello B. I have had a go at reducing the plot section of A Clockwork Orange. Although I have been around a while I have never learned how you do a count on the words in the plot section - other than the time consuming physical count and I am to lazy to do that tonight. If I haven't reached 700 I hope that, as I said in my edit summary, allowances can be made for actor names - piped links and reference/footnote about BillyBoy' name. You are certainly free to restore the tag if I haven't done enough. I was leaving this message in hopes of avoiding any misunderstanding and my apologies if I have failed in the attempt. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 00:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reduction by about 200 words. The section is now about 770 words. Whenever I have to count characters or words I search online for "character count tool" or "word count tool". The search always returns a few free choices where you just paste in the text. Binksternet (talk) 00:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You are welcome and thanks for the suggestion about the tools. My knowledge about what can be done with computers is Flintstonian (think woodpeckers chipping at stone to create a pic) so I appreciate your cluing me in. MarnetteD | Talk 00:26, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I think its a pterodactyl! :)
 * Binksternet (talk) 00:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * HeeHee. You might be right. It was an episode where they were using a stone age Polaroid camera that has stuck in my memory all these years. Too fun. Enjoy the rest of your week. MarnetteD | Talk 02:26, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Fai zan  16:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Ultrasound article
Hello Binksternet. I am new to the Wikipedia talk page format and so I apologize if I am not doing this in the appropriate way but I would like to see if an addition can be made to the Wikipedia ultrasound article and I don't know the proper way to do this. My father, Denis Abelson, MD was the first to describe heart sounds using ultrasound in his 1968 article in JAMA. 1968;204(6):438-443. doi:10.1001/jama.1968.03140190020006 titled " Ultrasonic Doppler Auscultation of the Heart." He used a fetal ultrasound monitor in this research, which he did in his own lab. This undertaking paved the way for further research leading to techniques that are now used everyday in Medicine across the globe. He has never received any kind of recognition for his groundbreaking description of heart sounds using Doppler Ultrasound and still practices medicine in Philadelphia at the age of 88. Thank you very much.Sabelsonmd (talk) 17:39, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Binksternet. I understand that you reverted my posts to Ultrasound article in order prevent advertizing. However, the information I provided is objective and correct to the best of my knowledge. There was a company reference in the section so I added another one. I feel it would be a shame to just delete all the information, I believe it adds value to the article. Would you consider just removing the references to the company and leaving the information in? I will leave it up to you, of course. Peshkovs (talk) 05:15, 12 June 2013 (EST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peshkovs (talk • contribs)


 * I see you uploaded an image to WikiCommons that you said you made yourself, yet it was previously published at Sonomechanics. That means you are connected to Sonomechanics, and you should be careful to comply with Wikipedia's rules about people having a conflict of interest: WP:COI.
 * Rather than using a company page as a reference, is it possible to use an industry magazine or technical journal? How about a white paper on the technology? I think it is important to have WP:SECONDARY sources so that we are assured that the technology has been recognized by mainstream observers. Binksternet (talk) 21:22, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I can definitely remove all links to the company website. There are several peer reviewed articles and a book that can be referred to instead. May I go ahead and put the text and the image back and replace the references? Should the name of the company also be removed from the picture description together with the reference? Peshkovs (talk) 5:45, 12 June 2013 (EST)


 * The image is okay to use in the article but it does not need a reference, nor does it need the name of Sonomechanics in the caption. I think it would be best to refrain from any mention of Sonomechanics in the article text and instead use those peer-reviewed articles and the book. Binksternet (talk) 21:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Understood. I will do this in a few hours. (talk) 5:55, 12 June 2013 (EST)

Hi Binksternet, The changes are now made with all references pointing to peer reviewed papers and published books. Thanks for your guidance in making the text more objective! I have a related question. There is a paragraph in the same portion of the article that also appears to be clearly promotional: "Equipment manufacturers have developed a number of larger ultrasonic processors of up to 16 kW power.[35]. Therefore volumes from 1mL up to several hundred gallons per minute can be sonicated today in order to achieve all kinds of results from the link that is shown below" The reference is to a single company website. Should this paragraph be removed? Alternatively, I could add links to other manufacturer webpages and revise this text a little. What would be better? talk) 11:38, 13 June 2013 (EST)


 * Regarding the 16 kW claim: if you think this is good information for the article to have, then yes, please find a WP:SECONDARY reference for it. Otherwise, it can be taken out without much loss to the reader. Binksternet (talk) 15:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed it, seems much cleaner this way. [User talk:Peshkovs#top|talk]]) 11:52, 13 June 2013 (EST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peshkovs (talk • contribs)

TIGHAR article
Binksternet,

I don’t understand your edits to TIGHAR, nor why you have reverted my last edit. I understand that Wikipedia prefers primary sources to secondary sources, but the first reference only confirmed TIGHAR’s position on the bone fragments and the second reference referred to a report generated by the molecular anthropology laboratories of the University of Oklahoma. I don’t see that how TIGHAR’s own statement regarding their position is an unreliable source when I am stating their position, nor do I think that a forensics report written by a university is an unreliable source when I am stating their own conclusions about the bone fragments. I also don’t understand why it is preferable to say “multiple expeditions” instead of “ten expeditions”. You’ve obviously been around Wikipedia for a while, so how telling me how I’m editing wrong? 68.74.163.157 (talk) 05:34, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia prefers WP:SECONDARY sources, ones which will give a more complete view of the likelihood of TIGHAR's various theories. It would be better to use newspaper stories regarding the bone fragments.
 * Regarding "multiple" rather than "ten" expeditions, I thought it would be better to have the Wikipedia article portray TIGHAR with a sense of timelessness. The ten expeditions could be described individually in subsections. Binksternet (talk) 13:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia PREFERS secondary sources lest primary sources be used inappropriately. I understand that you might be concerned about the TIGHAR article becoming an advertisement for TIGHAR, or that it might become a soapbox for proponents of TIGHAR’s theory (concerns which I share) but I can see nothing objectionable in the material that you removed. The TIGHAR article will undoubtedly remain an uninformative stub if it is built on secondary sources alone. Please restore my edit or raise specific objections to the sources that I used in regards to the statements that they supported. We can continue this discussion on TIGHAR’s talk page. 68.74.163.157 (talk) 22:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Binksternet,

Since you refused to have a discussion about it I have undone your reversion to TIGHAR and proceeded to flesh out the article. 68.74.163.157 (talk) 08:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

OR dispute
Hi. If it's not too much trouble, could you comment at this talk page regarding an editor's OR addition to an article? Dan56 (talk) 22:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Gun harmonisation
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * This is an excellent article. Nick-D (talk) 08:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Nick! :-)
 * Binksternet (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

linking to dabs is bad
I suggest you read this a few times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Links_to_disambiguation_pages

Then can stop doing it wrong.

84.106.26.81 (talk) 04:59, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Cj keri trimpe
Hello Binksternet. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Cj keri trimpe, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''No outward spamming. User's own page. Not blatant enough as advert.''' Thank you. Alexf(talk) 17:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Your call. If you look at all the deleted contributions by Cj keri trimpe you'll see that she is only here to promote herself, especially with falsehoods inflating her modeling experience. She is WP:NOTHERE to build the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 17:17, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That may be so but it still does not have a relation to the reason for the speedy request. If she spams, then we can take action on the account on that basis. Please report to AIV in that case. Thanks for your vigilance. -- Alexf(talk) 11:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Editing San Mateo
Hi Blinkerstreet,

I apologize for what I was doing before. I was trying to correct a mistake I had made while adding to the San Mateo California section. Another user by the name of Nthep alerted me to the problem where there was duplicate information on the page and I was deleting the extra information. I am still learning how to do this well and probably should try the sandbox before I try anything new again.

Sincerely, PacifiCali650 (talk) 21:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for the explanation. Binksternet (talk) 22:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Er...
...I don't think that last edit to SIOA was quite what you meant to do. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Tell me what is wrong with this edit, please, and I will pay attention. Binksternet (talk) 15:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Your edit summary was "directly stating the group's Islamophobia," but instead you restored the IP's promotional edit (as though SIOA is making some heroic stand against Muslim conquerors' "influence") with the exception of "Islamic" for "Islamist." –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. Let me tweak it a bit. Binksternet (talk) 15:15, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, I missed your removal of the link pipe, my apologies. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:23, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That part was me addressing the expressed concern about having a surprise "Easter egg" link. Binksternet (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Editor Engagement Roundtable
What a kick it was to share viewpoints with fellow Wikipedians today, sitting in a big circle at WMF HQ. Thanks to all the considered and thoughtful comments from Ocaasi, Kevin Gorman, KrystleChung, LaMona, ChesPal, Cullen328, Maximilianklein, Dvortygirl, SPat, Saehrimnir, Quiddity, RaymondYee, with guidance from WMF participants Fabrice Florin, Howief, Jorm and Accedie. Depending on my work schedule, I will tentatively but enthusiastically join another such roundtable discussion. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 02:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It was a delight to meet you, Binksternet, and so many other outstanding Wikipedians today. It is always great to connect a friendly face with a username.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  02:29, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And thanks for bringing Dexter! What an ice-breaker he is. Binksternet (talk) 02:31, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I had a good time at the roundtable and enjoyed meeting everyone too! RaymondYee (talk) 23:17, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Verily! There seemed to be a plethora of insights, for the participants and hosts alike. An excellent mix of people (and canine). Hope to see you all again some time, and around the wiki for sure. (However, I still think the office needs a pet cat, in addition to any visiting or inhouse dogs... ;) –Quiddity (talk) 18:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Great meeting you! Please do come to more of these :) Accedie  talk to me  03:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * . Binksternet (talk) 04:18, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Binksternet: Thanks so much for your kind words, the feeling is mutual! I am so glad you were able to join us, and it was a true pleasure to meet you. Sorry I couldn't respond sooner, as I wanted to finish preparing this project page, as well as upload these photos and first videos. If you have a moment, it would be wonderful if you could share your final notes on our talk page -- and you are welcome to fill in any missing info on our Roundtables project page. We learned a lot from each other -- and are already using some of your suggestions in our product plans. Thanks again for your wonderful contributions -- and I hope we'll get a chance to continue our collaboration in the future! Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 16:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I apppreciate all that you wrote about the Roundtable. Sorry to be so slow in responding.  It was a fascinating experience.  Since then I started dabbling with the Visual Editor, adding things to my user page and beginning another article from scratch.  So, slowly, the tortoise is moving along.  Thank you for your kind words about Dexter.  He is definitely a people dog!  ChesPal (talk)

User:HarveyCarter
I think this banned editor is at it again - see. What do you think? RashersTierney (talk) 21:00, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You nailed it. Totally him. Binksternet (talk) 21:49, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ? RashersTierney (talk) 09:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVII, June 2013
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 08:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Followup from Saturday
Hi Binksternet,

On Saturday, I mentioned to you that I was going to help a woman editor write an article. She is the one I met on Facebook who had been bullied by a jerk on Wikipedia a while back, and she has a lot of concerns about that type of behavior. Understandably. Anyway, take a look at what we came up with, Murder of Donna Jones. Take care.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  19:36, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Cool. I fixed the orphan problem by throwing a few links around. Binksternet (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Seeking your opinion
On Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_June_9 Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Aw, I looked at that earlier and shrugged it off as too involved. Categories are not my thing so much as article content. At any rate, I think the category should be kept, but there should be a firm division between those who participated in the battlefield vs the laboratory vs halls of government, those who reported or documented the aftermath, writers and historians who studied the issue, and of course the victims themselves. Binksternet (talk) 03:39, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Sockage reportage
Gigabytelord and Alitja are blatant socks. Talk:World_War_II Talk:World_War_II Special:Contributions/Gigabytelord Special:Contributions/Alitja LudicrousTripe (talk) 10:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think so. Gigabytelord has a better command of English. Binksternet (talk) 11:40, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

You're Welcome
It's good to get a nice notification. Keep up the good work. Good luck! Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 20:57, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Binksternet (talk) 20:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013
Hi Binksternet, just thought you should know that in Canada there has been legal precedent and peer-reviewed articles that support the notion of tanning industry using propaganda in its marketing. I strongly suggest you read the literature before accusing someone of biased reporting. Given your great track record on wikipedia, I surely expected more from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.184.208 (talk) 09:43, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you have not read the guideline WP:COATRACK. The information you wish to insert is about the tanning industry, not about how propaganda was used. Binksternet (talk) 09:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Visual Editor
Hey Binksternet

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I will check it out when it goes live. Binksternet (talk) 23:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Care Net
Hello Binksternet. There is a "discussion" taking place at the Talk page for Care Net that you might find of interest. Badmintonhist (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:RFPP
Heads up: in case you saw my decline of your protection request at WP:RFPP, I've thought better of it and semi'd for one week. Please see my updated note for why. Bishonen &#124; talk 18:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC).

Federales is Belchfire
Well, that's unsurprising. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 20:30, 29 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Exactly. I was putting together a case on Federales last night, waiting for more evidence, and then I woke up this morning to see him blocked. Good job, all. Binksternet (talk) 20:50, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! Just another lively day at Wikipedia. ;^)
 * Binksternet (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

World Digital Library-Wikimedia Partnership Newsletter
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