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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017
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Any relation?
From Colonel Knowles, featured above, to Colonel ‘Binks’ Firbank, Late of the Indian Army, who skirmished unflinchingly with the ferocious Fakir of Ipir but remained an ‘ideal Edwardian gentleman’ Anmccaff (talk) 17:36, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Ha! Maybe related, not known though. My DNA has been traced to some guy who sailed from England in 1699 to work in Virginia as an indentured servant on a tobacco plantation. Since your the colonel mentioned above was from the UK, there might be a distant connection. However, lots of unrelated people were simultaneously given the surname Knowles because they lived on knolls. Just like all the Smiths are not related. Thanks for the link! Binksternet (talk) 18:17, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeahbut (oneword), this guy hangs around someone named "Binks".... Anmccaff (talk) 18:24, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Cure genre's
Hey Binksternet. Some advice please: What do you make of this edit as well as the others made by Woovee to Cure articles recently? He removes sourced genre's, replaces them with unsourced ones and then leaves an edit summary that reads as follows "these genres are widely established" or " this doesn't belong to the infox when one never puts references to support genres". When I reverted them, he quickly reverted me with this explanation. Am I missing something?  Rob van  vee  15:27, 10 August 2017 (UTC)


 * It looks like Woovee is calling upon the concept expressed in the essay WP:BLUE, but in this case that argument is wrong. The album has been described as having no cohesive overall genre, and instead containing songs of various genres. So it's not correct to say that "gothic rock" or "alt rock" is widely established as the album's genre. Binksternet (talk) 16:38, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. He has done this several times (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) to several cure album articles and while I want to be bold, I'm also cautious as I may not be able to cite the appropriate policies, hence my asking you. Is it safe to say that all genre's should be sourced, even in infoboxes?  Rob van  vee  17:51, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Truth in Music Advertising
Alex ShihTalk 00:04, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Japanese war crimes

 * Wikipedia is based on WP:Reliable sources, not photographs interpreted by online discussion groups. I will continue reading the well-respected authors who have written about the Japanese wars of the 1930s and 1940s. Binksternet (talk) 16:26, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Greetings to my favorite music expert!
Photo work popped this out User:Bestword57/sandbox. I'm not sure of notability, but he looks like he could use some kind of a hand! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:46, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding this edit
I know this was not me in any way, but you should've wrote vandalism in addition to being unsourced. Corey Taylor did not die in 2004 because if he did, then Come What(ever) May, All Hope Is Gone and their respective followups by Slipknot and Stone Sour would've not existed. Please keep this in mind when you see these kinds of edits occur, just save them so you can become a rollbacker (if you are one then never mind). I myself would consider this edit vandalism in its own. Just seeing if things are okay.-- ULTRA-DARKNESS ''' :) 2 CHAT 16:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

The Blend (Sirius XM)
I know as a matter of policy it's okay to delete what you did, but that sure does deprive people of a lot of knowledge. Or at least I hope it's knowledge. I will admit, without sources, I'm wondering about the truth of what was deleted, but I certainly would like to find out what was true.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I try to follow policy as much as possible, which is what I was doing with this pruning job which you appear to be questioning. In that action, I removed unreferenced analysis per WP:No original research. If an article holds information which violates policy, I am not usually in favor of keeping it.
 * Of course you are free to look for published information about the topic, to satisfy your curiosity and to summarize the issues for the reader. Binksternet (talk) 22:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if I can figure out how. A lot of times we find these details through message boards which aren't acceptable sources.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:03, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Birdman
Hello. You recently told me about my edit on Birdman. If it is a warning, it is fine & I won't do it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:46:4:F229:4C0:ABE6:712:3C97 (talk) 20:04, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Long-term abuse/Kiyanu Kim
I created this LTA case page. Feel free to supplement. Destiny Leo (talk) 17:09, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Good work! I'll watchlist the page and add to it as needed. Binksternet (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , after examining the case page, it appears that a "Long-term abuse" page is not the answer, as such pages are for users who have been blocked repeatedly. The Kiyanu Kim socks have a sure conflict of interest but they don't rise to the level of LTA. The page you created ought to be moved into userspace to serve as a working history of the problem. Do you want to move it into your userspace? Here are two examples of such pages that are in my userspace. Binksternet (talk) 21:23, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Layne Staley
Hi, since you seem to have found the Layne Staley article in the last few hours, perhaps you could keep an eye on it? I left a note on the talk page recently but have decided to do some cleaning up anyway. I am anticipating some push-back as it is quite obviously something of a fancruft article. Less so now than when I started cleaning, but still excessive.

I'm ok with discussing it with you or anyone else but I'd rather not see the tripe reinstated just because it can be reinstated. - Sitush (talk) 14:09, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's true that the biography has become encumbered with too much text about his death, compared to the text about his career. I don't have much free time right now but I'll keep an eye on it. Binksternet (talk) 14:59, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Genres
Hi User:Binksternet, do you know if the sources in the infobox/ and composition section of Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 1/ and Slide (Calvin Harris song) explicitly call the album/ and song those genres please? Thanks, --Theo Mandela (talk) 21:55, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Steve Human Pfauter edit
why did you remove the punk rock info box from the Vandals bassist Steve Pfauter? He is an important member of punk rock history, how is it inappropriate to have the box on his page when the Vandals "peace thru vandalism" ep as well as the Detox albums he has been involved with are the EPITOME of punk rock greatness? Answer me that? did I break any rules but applying it? it should be a good thing, including it, right? or am I incorrect? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earl E. Smith (talk • contribs) 06:06, 25 August 2017 (UTC) Earl E. Smith (talk) 06:43, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * This is the removal you are asking me about. I removed your navbox because it introduced far too many irrelevant topics to the page. You also made Pfauter, a human being, into a "genre template" and a "navigational box" through incorrect categories.
 * If you want to tell the reader how Pfauter was important to punk, then expand the article prose with facts supported by reliable sources such as books, magazines and respected websites. A navbox doesn't say anything about importance. Binksternet (talk) 14:15, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Jack Grisham edit
Horrorpunk/deathrock is a genre that Jack Grisham was involved with as well as punk rock music and it is relevant to his page. I do not appreciate that you removed something important which other fans of deathrock/horror punk/goth would appreciate. It is important for historical reference, and its' absence does more damage than good. Earl E. Smith (talk) 06:44, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

−
 * Line 51, lack of knowledge in "fixing" an edit. You removed the upper-case "LOST" typing of Jack Grisham's LOST soul. it is obvious you are clearly out of your element and do not have the slightest idea what you are doing. The "LOST" was intentionally capitalized to reflect "T.S.O.L." Backwards (NOTE: ALL CAPS FOR THOSE WITHOUT THE FOGGIEST). Again, thanks for helping, but no thanks. Here is another case where things would've been better left the way they were:

Jack Grisham's LOST Soul
+

Jack Grisham's Lost Soul
−	In 2012, Grisham began auditioning a few additional musicians for a new band called Jack Grisham's LOST Soul, to play gigs covering T.S.O.L. and The Joykiller songs. Grisham is lead vocalist; T.S.O.L.'s Anthony “Tiny” Biuso is on drums; on guitar, D.I.'s lead, Clinton Calton; on bass, Trevor Lucca; and on keyboards, Greg Kuehn. +	In 2012, Grisham formed a new band called Jack Grisham's Lost Soul, to play gigs covering T.S.O.L. and the Joykiller songs. Grisham is lead vocalist; T.S.O.L.'s Anthony “Tiny” Biuso is on drums; on guitar, D.I.'s lead, Clinton Calton; on bass, Trevor Lucca; and on keyboards, Greg Kuehn. LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Earl E. Smith (talk) 07:31, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * First, the horrorpunk or death rock musical genre is a matter of opinion, not fact, and such a genre must be supported by reference to a reliable source.
 * Second, the capital letters of LOST are a stylization that Wikipedia doesn't repeat. See Manual of Style/Trademarks to see how only the most widely known stylizations are used by Wikipedia. Specifically, that page says to ignore the all-caps preference of Time magazine and the band Kiss. If Kiss doesn't get all-caps then Grisham doesn't either. Binksternet (talk) 14:23, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, Binksternet.
 * You have repeatedly removed my contributions to wikipedia then sited "edit warring" attempting to accuse me of such an action, when you yourself are the one engaged in it. I am merely attempting to expand a page which is a stub and you continue to undo my contributions. Please explain how this benefits anything but your ego? Thanks. I'm dying to hear any sort of logic in your actions. Earl E. Smith (talk) 17:47, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * , I have removed the handful of navigation boxes you added to articles because they were irrelevant, clunky and wrong. I have also corrected your other work to conform to Wikipedia's style guides and hard policies. My ego isn't in it. Binksternet (talk) 17:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

This is partially correct. You removed the navigation boxes, but the "corrected my other work" comment is false. You fixed other editor's mistakes, not mine. All you did concerning my contributions, was to remove them. Also, you rudely threatened to "Block" me from editing, accusing me of "Warring" when I was simply adding a goth subculture nav box to Jack Grisham's page. This is a commonly overlooked fact. T.S.O.L. and Jack Grisham specifically are involved in goth subculture where as the punk rock aspect is focused on 9 times out of 10. I asked you if you thought my contribution was beneficial, and you simply ignored me. I did not design the Jack Grisham article, I am expanding it because it is a stub and I suppose it will remain so forever with no contributions if you continue removing important additions to the article. I am not disagreeing with you on their guidelines and policies, because it is specific and I understand this. I have designed articles from scratch that were more than just a stub I simply want to expand the article. If it is an issue of the nav box, what can I do to include this and conform to wikipedia's standards (if i'm missing something). Thanks. Earl E. Smith (talk) 19:09, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I disagree. I am opening discussion on his talk page for a consensus. If it is found to be frivolous, I will end discussion.Earl E. Smith (talk) 19:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Kaye Styles
You removed information on a page that i created, i have a feeling that you just want to make trouble, and just want to start a new conflict.

why do i think that?, you are a live audio engineer from California (at least that is what you claim to be) and there is no way that you would know about a Belgian artist named Kaye Styles that has never released any music in the united states on a large scale, and is not known there, so my thought is you are just searching true the edits of my account Belovaci, to find something to start a new conflict over.

you remove associated labels, because you say there is no valid source but yet Bob Sinclar Digital and Yellow productions you don't remove, where is the source of that then? (and btw those are french labels makes more sense to delete those, then the Belgian ones, but i guess you where never good in geography) I know Kaye Styles personally, and have worked with him for many years, and that is why i made that page, i tried to be as objective as i can, and if you would do a little google search you would see that i am correct, i see that despite your hard work to annoy people with useless discussions like this you are still not a moderator yet, i guess i know why! delete the whole page if you want, and destroy all the perfectly correct information, and screw wikipedia completely, i am done with you and your silly games! 2A02:A03F:483:A400:5921:12FC:DAA5:F218 (talk) 21:20, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I had no idea you were User:Belovaci editing logged out, but now I can see why you reacted the way you did.
 * If you are not interested in following Wikipedia policy, specifically WP:No original research, then your unreferenced contributions are going to be questioned by many other editors, not just me. Binksternet (talk) 06:20, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Hardcore punk edit
(First of all I would like to apologize if I am doing this wrong; I was told to write you a message on this page so I assume this is the proper way to do that.)

The subgenre which the hardcore punk page refers to as "heavy hardcore" (a term which I have never seen be used before--not even on that very page, until last time I read it) is in fact commonly known as 'beatdown hardcore'. Sources I have to substantiate this claim include this Rateyourmusic page (https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Beatdown+Hardcore/) and the French wiki article on the genre (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatdown_hardcore). I can provide many more if needed; however, even a simple Google search will reveal that the term is at the very least widely in use. I remember the page used to list it as 'new-school' hardcore, which was not inaccurate (though not really used at all within the actual in-group of the style), but 'heavy'? It's a vaguely accurate descriptor for the style, but that's all. The name of the genre is 'beatdown'. I therefore argue that my changing 'heavy hardcore' to 'beatdown hardcore' was not unwarranted. At any rate, I believe the term "beatdown" should at the very least be mentioned in the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:2E8D:5A00:8959:B69B:A005:A69D (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

User:USN1977
Hi,

I declined your AIV report because their edits aren't vandalism. I get the impression that their edits are going against a guideline or consensus, but I don't think AIV is the right place to handle that. Legoktm (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * This is the first time I heard about that. What is an AIV report? I think someone else is using my account without authorization. USN1977 (talk) 15:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * , if you have a compromised account then you should ask to change your password, at the very least, or your account may be blocked. See Compromised_accounts for more information.
 * Regarding my AIV report, which is an anti-vandalism measure, I was reporting you because you have been adding too much prose to the plot sections of film articles that already have a large plot section, the limit set to 700 words in the guideline WP:FILMPLOT. You have been doing this for quite a long time, despite the many warnings you have received on your user talk page. Binksternet (talk) 16:04, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

You've got mail
Trusttri (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Rotten Tomatoes
Hi. I saw you reverted a few edits that added the Rotten Tomatoes "critical consensus", which you said was unreliable. WikiProject Film does generally consider this to be reliable, though there's been some controversy over using Rotten Tomatoes to describe the consensus of older films (mostly stuff released before RT was founded in 1998). I personally wouldn't revert edits that add RT percentages, averages, or its critical consensus until there's been some kind of consensus on this issue. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. Binksternet (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of a Heart's featured artist
Do you know why Rory Dodd wasn't a featured artist in Bonnie Tyler's song of Total Eclipse of a Heart? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs)


 * No, I don't know why. People didn't do that very much back then, so maybe it's just that simple. Binksternet (talk) 02:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

SPLC talk page
If you have problems with my edit, could you discuss them on the splc talk page --2001:8003:4B8D:2C00:353D:99EA:8C8D:518E (talk) 04:32, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017
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The Prodigy
I've received your message, and it seems you've never checked citation. He is considered Breakbeat it this area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prodigy#cite_note-AllmusicBio-4

Thanks ~Katzenauge GeneralKatzenauge (talk) 23:12, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Where's the violation?
Can you be specific so I understand what I did wrong? I'm fully willing to cooperate. Much of those edits I made was actually improvement to the article, so I won't immediately revert back, rather, I want to know how to fix the information to work properly. The early name was also referenced. 104.39.30.211 (talk) 19:13, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * You copied and pasted text from the AllMusic page. Binksternet (talk) 19:15, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm sorry, that wasn't me. I'll fix that on the page I got it from, too (Tormented). 104.39.30.211 (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, you should log back in as . Binksternet (talk) 19:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * You're right, it's me. But there's a long backstory to this and I can explain it all to you at home tonight. Also, it doesn't look like it was copy-pasted verbatim...am I looking in the wrong spot? Help me out here. 104.39.30.211 (talk) 19:24, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * ( recent changes patroller ) Earwig states that this was mainly copied from https://www.last.fm/music/Staind/+wiki -- a CC-BY-SA 3.0 licensed page. But obviously that is a wiki, with no citations... My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 19:27, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, still confused, don't see much of anything connected to that page that I wrote here, just a whole lotta bleeds...did you run it on the whole page and that picked up? 104.39.30.211 (talk) 19:31, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 19:31, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

The text at the AllMusic biography shares significant wording with the text you added. Note the phrases "bring/brought drummer Jon Wysocki into the fold" and "completed/completing the early lineup." Binksternet (talk) 19:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And you have a problem with that?? Wow. Picky. Fine, I will make adjustments. Or you can. Thanks so much! 104.39.30.211 (talk) 19:37, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the essay Close paraphrasing. That's where you'll see an explanation of why we are not allowed to copy text with superficial changes. Binksternet (talk) 19:42, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, so the reason I also contribute with hopping IPs is related to college. My college internet network's IP changes every day without my control. I only access my account on Friday-Sunday now, mostly from my desktop computer. I changed the password to something ludicrously long stored in my desktop's password vault. Mostly, the reason for that is so I can't incessantly change a watchlist like I can at home. Now I have one question remaining: can you direct me to where it says a legal document such as this one cannot cover information such as an early name for Staind?  danny music editor  Speak up! 20:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Start with WP:PRIMARY which discusses how Wikipedia is built mainly on independent secondary sources, with primary and tertiary sources allowed in limited circumstances. The policy about living people and primary sources can be seen at WP:BLPPRIMARY, which says that court records cannot be used when living persons are involved. Binksternet (talk) 20:32, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So you're saying you deny yourself the user password at the times when you ought to be studying? I guess that means you are avoiding your studies whenever a state college IP from Pennsylvania starts working on the music articles that have interested you in the past. Heh heh... Binksternet (talk) 20:46, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That's almost exactly right. I'm waiting for the avalanche of work to arrive, but it's building. To be fair, I do typically edit less Wikipedia there when I'm not waiting for a response. ;) I read BLPPRIMARY, and I suppose my next question would still be why not? It would be useful to have that context added to the policy page, because I still don't get it (maybe I need a fish).  danny music editor  Speak up! 21:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The court case PDF is a collection of unproven assertions made by a certain Jon Stainbrook of Ohio who is the founder of a band called the Stain. Stainbrook asserts that the band Staind started out as Stain, then changed their name to Staind when they found out about Stainbrook's band. Nobody else says this – just Stainbrook. Media reports about the lawsuit mention that the band Lit was formed as Stain, but they don't say that Staind was formed as Stain. So Stainbrook's assertion is not supported by secondary sources, and cannot be used. Binksternet (talk) 01:11, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That would be where I went wrong. I thought the band had made those claims. Thank you for the clarification. It all makes sense now, I did just need a clue adjustment.  danny music editor  Speak up! 13:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Re:Dark Side of the Moon
Hey, I'm not sure what exactly constitutes an edit war (be it in an official or unofficial sense), but I reverted an edit only once. My second "revert" was basically adding back the information with a source, since your revert of my edit was on the basis that the information was unsourced. Thus, I didn't really "revert" your edit so much as I was just adding a source. As for my reversion of User Pirickzi's edit, it was because he had reverted my edit without an explanation. When he reverted my edit for a second time, with an explanation, I stopped, so I'm not really sure why you think I edit-warred. My "edit-warring" basically just consisted of one revert, which was only because Pirickzi did not give an explanation for his first revert 183.82.251.92 (talk) 10:49, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * To me it looks like you are analyzing, comparing and expanding on the Billboard chart reference which says that the album spent 933 weeks on the chart but does not support your assertion that it "has since had the longest run of any album in American chart history, having spent over 2,100 weeks on the Billboard charts since 1973." Binksternet (talk) 16:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, I probably should have added a separate citation for the album's record on the Catalog Albums chart (here it is), but as I explained in the edit description, "DSOTM has spent 1,199 weeks on the Catalog Albums Chart and 933 weeks on the Billboard 200", which equates to 2,100 + weeks. I have unfortunately not been able to find a source directly stating that the album has had the longest run on all charts combined (it's self-evident though; the tallies can be manually calculated and ranked), but here are a few confirming its Billboard 200 record: [1] [2] [3] In any case, I'm not trying to get the information added back anymore, as it would only lead to a conflict with Piriczki, who clearly does not want to see that info in the lead. I just wanted to say I think it's a tad unfair that you booked me for edit-warring, as I feel I didn't engage in any such activity. I just made one revert, which I wouldn't have done had there been an explanation for the first reversion of my edit(s) 183.82.251.92 (talk) 17:51, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

AIV IP
Since bot will remove any reply, hopping over here. Thanks for the background, gave it a 1 week for now. -- ferret (talk) 02:20, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Binksternet (talk) 02:22, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

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Hardcore punk edit
I couldn't help but notice you ignored my question about you undoing my edit on the hardcore punk article, as well as my arguments for its legitimacy. I also couldn't help but notice that my edit has been reversed again, still with no counterargument whatsoever. This kind of infantile behaviour is perplexing, coming from a moderator, so I was wondering if you cared to explain the reasoning behind it. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:a03f:2e1a:5800:ac76:b227:ed57:9e2f (talk • contribs)


 * So "infantile" is now part of "kind regards"?
 * Your first edit changed "heavy hardcore" to "beatdown hardcore", but the only cited source in the paragraph says heavy and not beatdown. Your subsequent edits were much the same as the first. The main problem I have with your changes is that you did not bring a new and reliable source to the page, one that gives the reader a sense of how "beatdown" is the name of a valid sub-genre. For what it's worth, the paragraph already had a problem with its last sentence being unreferenced, so I'm going to go ahead and delete that bit per WP:no original research. Everything in Wikipedia is supposed to be based on a reliably published source. Binksternet (talk) 22:15, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Hardcore Henry - Production edit
Hi, just seen your message, the references are there, Indiegogo latest updates and the comments section are a reliable source in my opinion considering that the context is exactly the Crowdfunding campaign with Indiegogo. However if you don't think so, I ask you gently instead of just deleting everything to join the talk that I opened before the edit and work together to compromise a version that satisfy your perspective. Cheers, --IngaSmith (talk) 19:21, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Pop Punk (Easycore)
Hello, I would just like to ask why you took down the Inffobox for Easycore? I felt as if it was an uneccessary change. Dekai Averett (talk) 00:08, 27 September 2017 (UTC)


 * , I used an edit summary to explain my edit: "Rv... Only one infobox, please. This is the article about pop punk, not the article about easycore." The "rv" part means revert.
 * If you want an article to have the easycore infobox, then you should work to get the Easycore article up and running. The article has been deleted five times, so you'll have to create a draft article at Draft:Easycore. You should work on the article in draft space until it is suitably written and sufficiently supported by references, enough so that an administrator can move the draft into main article space. Binksternet (talk) 00:26, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

The Blood Brothers
I'm from Redmond. Where the Blood Bros. are from. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. BUUUUUUUUUUUUT just to appease you, I added a piece in the (very very inactive) talk page discussing Sass as a genre. You're welcome. TakyonDrive (talk) 23:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Genres at Wikipedia don't come from personal knowledge but from music critics and reviewers who have published in reliable sources. Binksternet (talk) 23:46, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Random Question
Hi! I noticed that on the article Gorillaz you reverted edits made by Noah1249. For some reason I can't access the preview function at the moment (maybe because the edits were reverted, or maybe my computer is just being weird) but I was just wondering what he did. I am not at all saying that the reverts weren't deserved (lol) but I was just wondering why the were made. Thanks! VTnav (talk) 23:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * He added "funk rock" to the infobox and introduction, which was unreferenced and otherwise unsupported. Binksternet (talk) 23:45, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

User:Bporter28
Am I mistaken, or is User:Bporter28 basically writing about himself at Bill Porter (sound engineer)? --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 04:59, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Your allegation is incredibly offensive. Bill Porter has been dead for seven years. Bill Porter happens to be my favorite sound engineer and I am a big Elvis fan. User:Bporter28User talk:Bporter28 22:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Bill Porter the audio engineer has been dead for seven years. Binksternet (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops. Never mind. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 14:40, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Unconstructive edits
Hello, I see you warned User talk:104.57.183.127 about his unconstructive edits on the Cat in the Hat page. Whoever he is, he's been vandalizing other articles as well, just today he vandalized the Yonggary (1999 film) and Yonggary (character) articles. This has been going on since July and enough is enough. He's been blocked for 3 days before as a warning and has continued doing the same thing he has been doing that got him blocked. He needs to be blocked permanently! Additionally, he seems to be using sock puppet IP addresses as well, such as this one, this one, this one and this one. Like I said, enough is enough and action must be taken against this troll. We can't keep playing whack the mole forever with this guy. Armegon (talk) 21:03, 30 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not an administrator, so I cannot block these IPs. I think we need a rangeblock or more to get these IPs stopped. All of them are from Sandy, Texas. I think this is a matter for WP:ANI. Binksternet (talk) 21:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)


 * , I can file the ANI report if you aren't doing it yourself. Binksternet (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would be excellent! If there's any way I can contribute, I'd be happy to help. Armegon (talk) 22:32, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. Feel free to add your own comment. Binksternet (talk) 00:06, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Drone music
It's been a while since you looked at Drone music, eh? – S. Rich (talk) 18:28, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, two years. Much has changed since then. Just now I removed a bit of recent promotion. Anything else of concern? Binksternet (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Avid Logo
Thank you for your message regarding the Avid logo change on the Avid page. I am in fact an Avid employee. I work in the Creative Services department of Marketing and I probably should have created a username with my Avid email address (which, coincidently is mike.taylor@avid.com). Anyway I've never edited a Wiki page and really don't know what I'm doing. But I initially wanted to update the logo to the current version but was not able to figure that out so I removed the logo (which is not a correct version of the logo). I'm not sure if you can help me but we really want to get rid of the incorrect version of our logo so that the correct one is the only one available online.


 * Right. I pinged the guy who created the 2009 logo (see User_talk:Calibrador) so perhaps he will make a new SVG file which fits your specifications. Or you can make a new file and send it to me so that I can upload it. It should be fairly small, in the range of 120 to 200 pixels wide. Binksternet (talk) 01:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Here is the latest Avid logo. I'm trying to upload the file but I'm Wiki Challenged and don't know what I"m doing. Hopefully you can access it.




 * Okay, I put the new logo into the Avid articles in a handful of languages. Binksternet (talk) 15:57, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Pesticide topics
I post this because you're engaged in edit warring at glyphosate. Please remember that 1RR was imposed in that topic to prevent exactly what you did here. The general expectation there with that restriction back at the ArbCom case was that when new content is not getting traction, editors are expected to gain consensus on the talk page rather than trying to reinsert it. If you feel strongly about some content, now is the time to use the talk page, not try to reinsert it. Kingofaces43 (talk) 23:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Is this a game to you
You can reword but no one can edit?2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 23:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Your changes introduce awkward turns of phrase. Nobody calls a song a "first-single release". Your wish to improve grammar is commendable but this particular campaign of yours is wrong-headed. Binksternet (talk) 23:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe we can see that you do not have total faith in your beliefs otherwise you would have gone to the appropriate boards. And stead will be my ghost. That is I guess the strategy of old timer Wikepedians who do not wsnt to risk their integrity for appearing to be obstinent.2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 01:25, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It's obstinate, Mister Grammar Policeman.
 * Looks like you are challenging me to report you to ANI. That's funny, I was considering that very thing, and I would be seeking a rangeblock. Judging from your interaction with me and especially on the Ishqbaaaz talk page, you are here scrapping for a fight rather than to improve the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 01:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I guess I am very mentoring in that way. The basis of thre issue is grammar and you fell you are the boss.2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 01:38, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I have reviewed a few of these board reviews and it seems to go in a very predictable manner that very much is dictated by the parties involved. More experienced and long standing WP editors will be viewed as defending the faith and those on the or=ther side will be viewed as attempting to destroy WP. And that is how is goes. And even in those instances where the more experienced WP editor is believed to have unfounded views the inexperienced editor is leveed a penalty for being so adamant about the maltreatment. This is common within groups that are promoted from within. WP wants to be accepted by the world using grammatically correct language yet there exists a whole other group of people that live perfectly well with what WP champions. That is not a challenge--that is a fact that essentially makes WP's standing less sound. And you passed my test. I always put something in to see just how unwelding can someone be about their position. Sometimes it is presenting a format out of kilter and sometimes it is a misspelled word. Yours was the word. Sometimes it is not so useful to make certain that the actions of others are commented upon so thouroughly. And never did I think that every step of the way in WP would be an endurance test of those that quite possibly were bullied in civilian life and now themselves bully with the anonymity of the internet. It is not a technology that makes someone's personality any more the better because of the lack of social restraint. I have had more civil discussion at the end of cocktail parties. So do what you obviously do not need to be prodded into and have a go at civil WP discussion hopefully minus the off-the-topic slurs and innuendos. This is an unfortunate turn of event despite what has to be what fundamentally was thought a commendable encyclopedea2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 01:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Zero Dark Thirty can be changed until you go blue in the face and yet the basic structure will always hark back to how it was when I stopped editing it. Now, that is an accomplishment regardless how incompetent the status quo perceive. At this point all you can do is enlarge the word count.2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 10:20, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVIII, October 2017
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Daniel Estulin
I checked Daniel Estulin's wiki [|page] and it does not state that he is a conspiracy theorist as you stated in a reverted edit.--Htmlpress (talk) 07:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Htmlpress (talk • contribs) 06:55, October 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Then I guess his Wikipedia biography needs some expansion. The Telegraph in the UK says of all the conspiracy theorists who are interested in the Bilderberg Group, Estulin is "the conspiracy theoretician-in-chief," and he writes for the Russian state propaganda arm Russia Today. The Guardian in the UK labels Estulin a conspiracy theorist. Both of those sources say that Fidel Castro is a fan of Estulin's conspiracy theories. Binksternet (talk) 07:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

seemed less than neutral
"Neutral"-a word full of semantics.--82.11.206.181 (talk) 08:57, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello Bink, Many thanks for removing the vandalism on my Talk page. All much appreciated. Regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 09:29, 12 October 2017 (UTC)


 * You bet! Binksternet (talk) 14:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Suspicious
Could you take a look at ? I can't tell if this is date vandalism. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I looked at three edits and all three involved changing to the wrong dates. Binksternet (talk) 03:43, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into that. It looks like I might have already run into this IP before.   seems like it might be the same editor.  I hope we don't end up having to chase after this one. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Chris Brown discography/More Giubbotto non ortodosso socks
Hey, it seems UPS.UPS re-registered as Gasr678 to restore their changes to Chris Brown discography. They've been editing Heartbreak on a Full Moon as well.  Ss 112  14:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes. When I get some time I'll start a new SPI case on them. Binksternet (talk) 14:45, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Sound design
This guy argues that recent additions ("Criticism" section) to page "Sound design" are not accurate and holds the view that literature on an art subject would be more truthful than subjective opinion. It's not epistemologically true that literature would offer any more accuracy on non- hard science subjects which are by definition free for interpretation. He also argues that online forums such as GearSlutz or sound.stackexchange are not valid sources, even though these are written by actual, working sound designers. Get real. -OP Special:Contributions/130.234.178.12 17:32, 14 October 2017


 * Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, but there are hard policies in place regarding what is appropriate for contributions to articles. Take a look at WP:No original research – check it out – and you'll see why I removed the unreferenced sections containing your personal analysis. Binksternet (talk) 22:18, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Date change vandal
Just saw your ANI post being archived. Wanted to point you to User:EvergreenFir/socks. Given the geolocation and vandalism type, I assume it's the same person.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:08, 14 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I had several posts going at ANI, so I'm not sure which vandal you are discussing. Your link points to a SoCal vandal. Binksternet (talk) 22:30, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You probably intended a link to the Kung Fu Panda Charlotte, NC vandal section. Binksternet (talk) 22:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, was referring to Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive966. It seems possible to me that they are the same person.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I took a long look at the style of your "present" vandal but I was unable to find the same stuff from the Lodi date-changing vandal. Binksternet (talk) 05:24, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay! Well thank you for looking. :)  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 07:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Thanks! Appreciated. Binksternet (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Genres
I did not change genres. Listen to the song, it has hip hop in it. Truther1515 (talk) 02:20, 28 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, you changed genres.
 * No, I don't have to listen to the song to figure out whether it has hip hop in it. Wikipedia is built on WP:SECONDARY sources, not the personal opinions of editors. Which means that you will need to cite a reliable source saying that the song is hip hop.
 * You listening to a song and figuring out its genre is against the policy of WP:No original research, which is not negotiable. Binksternet (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Mrwallace05 new sock
created a sock user. Though the user claimed that "I'm not a sockpuppet" on the user page, but quite similar editing style. "if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck." 115.164.222.176 (talk) 03:23, 28 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, duck, but I think maybe it's another duck: User:Jimi Lewis. Check this pair of diffs, showing confirmed Jimi Lewis sock Cal 505 and our new friend doing the exact same thing. Another pair of diffs with DingoDongo and Jimi Lewis both adding the R&B genre.
 * Interested parties can look further into the matter by using the editor interaction tool:
 * Here's DingoDongo and Shikari 123 who was blocked as a sock of Mrwallace05. Seventeen articles in common.
 * Here's DingoDongo and Cal 505. Nine articles in common.
 * Here's DingoDongo and Jimi Lewis. Four articles in common. All four of these were also edited by Cal 505.
 * DingoDongo and Mrwallace05 have zero pages in common. Binksternet (talk) 05:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Self-promoting professor
Greetings Binkster: Please take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Don_Gregorio_Ant%C3%B3n&action=history and see if you think this is right? I realize that profs at various schools are entitled to wiki pages, but this seems a little ... um... non-cited. I saw the page because the photo was uploaded by the same person who wrote that whole page, claiming "self". Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:02, 29 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll clean up there. Looks like a helluva lot of promotion. Binksternet (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:10, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Lady Rizo page
Thanks for your note, I think we have a misunderstanding on the edits for the Lady Rizo page. I had two windows opened at the same time and did not see how something had happened. I thought I had made a mistake and also there was a lot to editing in terms of adding/fixing the description box (I was doing too many things at once). I have no need for edit wars, I am sorry if my confusion trying to figure what had happened created an alarm on your end. Again, thanks for the note! Shelyric (talk) 23:28, 29 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not worried about edit conflicts but about the inflation of Lady Rizo's accomplishments. Binksternet (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Let me clarify. The Grammy thing --- You are a sound engineer who seems to have worked with many people. Possibly you are a member of NARAS? I have been for close to 20 years; also served on the board of the chapter I'm assigned to. When an album wins a Grammy in a category such as this and many artists are the main singers/performers on each of the tracks, they are recognized. Does this mean they 'win' a Grammy? They don't give statues to ALL those people on the CD but they all do get a very nice framed certificate. Does this mean they are a Grammy winner? Some think yes and some think no; you might have got one of these collaborative recognition, framed certificates yourself. I am fine with it either way as she is the main singer on that track (not a backup). The text has been corrected to reflect she is on that album and the album happened to win a Grammy.

Shelyric (talk) 00:21, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

inappropriate external links
Hi Binksternet and thank you for the note. Why do you consider inappropriate external links the official webpages? There is a difference between protecting wikipedia and blocking the correct information. Did you check the websites True Life in God and True Life in God Radio? Therefore, may i ask you to revert your changes please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlos.Theodorou (talk • contribs)


 * First, there's the guideline WP:ELMINOFFICIAL which says that one official external link is usually sufficient.
 * Second, you put the link to a radio show into several Wikipedia articles which is against the guideline WP:LINKSPAM.
 * I don't think you are trying to put in the "correct" information. I think you are promoting Ryden. Binksternet (talk) 00:35, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Binksernet for the retply. The fact that i put the link of the True Life in God Radio in couple of more articles, so that to enrich their content, it does not mean i intended to use wikipedia in an inappropriate way. Would you do that? Anyway, negativism should not prevail teh good results of team/sharing work. About the link, True Life in God Radio is an official website of True Life in God and therefore of Vassula Ryden, so i find nothing wrong to inform people about it. So you prevent me to put a link of an official website? So what are the alternatives, to put just the text with no link? to give a small description of True Life in God Radio? I appreciate your understanding and further collaboration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlos.Theodorou (talk • contribs)


 * That fact that a radio program exists is not enough for it to be listed on Wikipedia. However, if WP:SECONDARY sources describe it, then we can comfortably assume that it is important to the topic. Binksternet (talk) 15:55, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the response and further support. True Life in God Radio is not just any radio program, it's main and only scope is to broadcasts the messages that Vassula Ryden receives from God since 1985 as well as talks of Vassula that shed light through facts, analysis and evidence on various Christian topics. It is possible to have all that audio material on WP, can we? Reading the WP:SEcondary guidelines it states that "It contains an author's analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources." I am looking forward to your reply and final approval to put the True Life in God Radio as an external link. Thanks in advance for all your support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlos.Theodorou (talk • contribs)


 * I am not convinced Wikipedia needs the link. To me it looks promotional. Your pursuit of broadcasting "the message" is not in line with Wikipedia's purpose to tell readers about things that are important. Basically, you have a WP:Conflict of interest with regard to Vassula on Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 19:19, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Binksternet, I respect your very personal opinion that is totally wrong for this case. TLIG Radio is one of the official websites of Vassula Ryden, please spend one minute to look at it. Anyway, I am not convinced the whole matter is technical, yesterday i was looking other pages that have tons of external links. The WP:SEcondary guidelines is a clear and straight answer to you. I am trying to find a solution and you are trying to find obstacles, I asked for alternatives and you come back with your personal doubts. Definitely you cannot prevent us mentioning True Life in God Radio on Vassula's page. Looking forward to your alternative solution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlos.Theodorou (talk • contribs)


 * Actually, since you have a conflict of interest, it will be a simple matter to alert Wikipedia's administrators to prevent you from making promotional changes to the Vassula Ryden biography. You will be able to recommend changes on the talk page but you will not be able to overrule whatever consensus forms among uninvolved editors.
 * And there's still the WP:ELMINOFFICIAL guideline which recommends a minimum of official external links. Binksternet (talk) 16:15, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Binksternet, i discern confusion and luck of understanding. One could also say blackmailing, I try to find a solution and you respond back with hostile and frightening quality manners. I don't think the wikipedia board endorses such behavior. So I am looking forward to see this matter being escalated and trying to find a solution based on good communication and manners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlos.Theodorou (talk • contribs) 13:28, 4 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Feel free to escalate this issue as far as you wish. When hearing cases of this nature, the Wikipedia community usually decides against having promotional external links. My behavior has been blunt and realistic but not intentionally "frightening" or "hostile". The idea is ridiculous that I'm "blackmailing" you.
 * You are trying to find a solution but there isn't one which will make you happy. Binksternet (talk) 13:39, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Binksternet, I am sorry but you are confused. I am not trying to do something against the rules of wikipedia, that's why I am here to discuss any possible option with you. Do NOT neglect this is a public talsk that anyone can read. So, please read our discussion from the begging, I have always been polite and that trying to find a solution without breaching any rule, there is a solution for everything young man. It is you who come back with threatenings, as a matter of fact, i asked you to escalate this issue to your administrators but I can see you do not do that because you start realizing the way you write and communicate does not really reflect wikipedia. Anyway, I am here to start from begging to find a solution, I believe in finding solutions and not getting stuck in dead ends or any unsuccessful communication structure. PLEASE read again our discussion, you suggest no more external links, so i did not put it back. I am the coordinator of TLIG Radio and I confirm you that it is an official website of True Life in God and of Vassula Ryden. You did not accept it. If you visit the tligradio.org you'll see it is copyrighted by Vassula Ryden, you did not accept that too. I am covered by the WP:SECONDARY rules, you did not accept that. I keep asking from you to suggest a solution and you come back with hostile and threatenings responses such as I will be blocked from editing in wikipedia". I invited you to escalate the issue so that to get some help from your director, you do not do that. What is wrong dear Binksternet? Wikipedia certainly follows the global rules of isonomy and democracy, but i see you follow your own policy. DESPITE all this negative attitude from you, here i am to invite you again to read again our discussion and suggest an alternative. You say no more to external links (an issue that can be examined at a later stage by the right people and departments), so what is the alternative? Is it a short decrsiption of TLIG Radio and his mission? or what esle?          — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlos.Theodorou (talk • contribs) 22:27, 6 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm done talking with you, as you continue to misrepresent my words and motives. Like I said before, you are welcome to escalate the issue yourself. Don't post again on my user talk page. Binksternet (talk) 23:04, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

/* 1968–1971: James Gang */
Thanks for comments the feedback and comments are noted Will try to be more careful in future DAL 81.147.130.240 (talk) 22:46, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

FYI there is actually quite a lot of useful disparate information scattered on the Internet which relates to the subject and was trying to fuse some of this subject into the Wikipedia entry, however as I am not on authority re. wikipedia I will take more heed.

You have an interesting background on a variety of topics.

DAL 81.147.130.240 (talk) 22:57, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Heartbreak on a Full Moon
Hi Binksternet, I see your involved in an ongoing spat with User:Giubbotto non ortodosso, they're at it again on Chris Brown's new album Heartbreak on a Full Moon, they keep changing the sourced genre Pop · dance · R&B to Hip hop · R&B (which got reverted earlier on in the day) and more recently R&B · pop · dancehall, the source includes a quote which backs up Pop|dance|R&B but they keep changing it via their IP and as a sock, just thought I'd ask you to keep an eye out or if you could try and intervene or get the page protected please? Lifebabbles (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I will keep an eye on it, as usual. Binksternet (talk) 18:11, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, seems like they won’t give up adding a cheeky Pop · Hip hop music · R&B here and there (exactly like that) Lifebabbles (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Self-publishing
A person & the company they work for are 2 separate entities. My name isn't SPIRITLINK LLC Also, the "webpage" isn't & wasn't in question, it was the fact that you, like Koala15, refuse to discuss my last comment & specific references I gave Koala15 (did they even mention it to you?). If a company does a write-up, it can be valid; Last time I checked, XXL & Source Magazine have a web address & are therefore "websites" also. And don't get on them being credible sources as they can publish libel & opinion also as well as facts. You're contradicting Donner60. I'm simply doing what I was told. And Allen Ritter has no citing or evidence proving he's a producer on No New Friends, period - only as a writer. He's the one you & Koala should harass about unsourced or improperly cited material on Suffering from Success & No New Friends. And what gives anyone the right to replace my name with his without notification? Add his name, leave it there or leave it separate but leave mine alone. And the "proof" Donner60 thought about using (& didn't) was a webpage anyway.Rbullock16 (talk) 06:19, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * , the Wix webpage is a blog, not a reliable source, per WP:Reliable sources. You cannot use it on Wikipedia for this controversial information. You must attract the interest of a professional journalist and have your story published in a reliable news source, after which it can be used to support your story. Even then, your name would not be listed as an official producer or featured artist, but your story would get summarized in the article body, and if there's enough press, mentioned in the lead section. Only a successful lawsuit against the label or music producers who allegedly stole from you, or a consensus of mainstream media acknowledgement of your part in the composition, will allow you to be listed as a producer.
 * If Allen Ritter's name is not mentioned in reliable sources then he should be removed from the article. Binksternet (talk) 06:46, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

I agree with that last part: "If Allen Ritter's name is not mentioned in reliable sources then he should be removed from the article. Binksternet (talk) 06:46, 14 November 2017 (UTC)". Remove him like you remove my edits.Rbullock16 (talk) 07:02, 14 November 2017 (UTC)