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You keep reverting all my edits without any explanation
Why you keep reverting all my edits without any explanation? Do you research before reverting everything? I spotted you to revert my edits containing important informations and links over and over, without giving any objective evidentiary argument. Please give me a reasonable explanation why you keep reverting all my edits. I spotted geocentrism on some pages, I edited that to remove geocentrism, because there are oceans of different chemical composition on other worlds, not only on Earth. Bernardirfan (talk) 18:28, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * he did the same to mine, can we report this person somehow...? Jyesth Anveshak (talk) 01:54, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

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Why are you editing the Vanjari Page...?
You have removed all the changes made to the page citing Unreliable Sources...?

Yours, Mr.Jyesth Sanap (From the Office of Hon.Minister. Bhagwat Karad) Jyesth Anveshak (talk) 01:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * You are overwriting a disambiguation page with article content. If you'd like to create a new article, please use a title that is pre-disambiguated from the other existing articles. older ≠ wiser 01:58, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright then...! The link that you have provided with your previous edit was the wrong one confusing two different communities with each other.
 * I have linked it to a page of regional language now. And will make edits to that page.
 * Best Regards,
 * Mr Jyesth Sanap (Office of Hon.Minister Bhagwat Karad) Jyesth Anveshak (talk) 02:15, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Matanglawin
Is that it? Nothing seems to have changed? The AfD said redirect, but it is unclear what they wanted to redirect to. Your edit summaries suggested the intention was to move/rename, but that hasn't happened either (or it has, and then reverted). Seems like there was a consensus for *something* to be changed, but I can't tell what. Lithopsian (talk) 14:56, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * If you meaan Articles for deletion/Matanglawin (publication) -- that was completely invalid. created the AfD as an already closed discussion. I'm not sure what to make of it as there is no context whatsoever. There was Talk:Matanglawin (publication) which resulted in moving the article on the student newspaper from the base name to Matanglawin (newspaper) (it was subsequently moved again to Matanglawin (publication). The requested move determined that neither the newspaper nor the TV program was the primary topic, although the closer left Matanglawin as a redirect to the student newspaper, although there really should have been a disambiguation page if neither was primary topic. Then AaronFresco created the invalid AfD and did a copy and paste move of the newspaper article to the base name. Initially, I reverted the copy-paste and properly moved the page to the base name. On closer examination though, I saw the old RM and moved it back and created the disambiguation page. By page views alone, the TV program could probably be the primary topic. But I'm content to leave it as a disambiguation page. older ≠ wiser 17:11, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks, nothing to see here then. Lithopsian (talk) 17:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

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Just a question
Why do you keep on undoing my edits? I'm not trying to be hostile, l'd just like to know TheOmniDex (talk) 02:01, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * You are adding entries on disambiguation pages that are not appropriate. Each entry needs to have one blue link that leads to an article that mentions the term. older ≠ wiser 02:14, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ok TheOmniDex (talk) 19:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

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Seizing the moment to avert any crossed wires :)
Hi there,

while adding to my first edit on seize, I received an edit conflict for a reversion from you.

I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but indeed, the fact that the mistake was so easily made, further reinforces that the edit is a useful one I think! The spelling "seise" is used for the first usage both on and off wikipedia. I have also added a second usage, which was how I ended up here in the first place, because I was reading this article on Belize. I had not seen your edit until I went to submit, summary already written, so I just wanted to leave this message on your talk page to make sure you realized that this was my intention already, not some sort of passive aggressive response to your good-faith edit, which I was only aware of after submitting!

I hope you agree with the changes, and if not (or you see room for further improvement to wording/structure) please feel free to make further edits, I won't consider it an "edit war" at all

All the best,

--Tomatoswoop (talk) 19:41, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Michigan communities format
A newer editor recently went through several township articles in the state and began eliminating the standalone "Communities" section and combining that information into the "Geography" section. Additionally, that editor deleted some maps and alleged unreferenced information (including one paragraph where the reference itself was deleted with the text). When I messaged that user and asked why they were changing the structure of the articles, I was given an arrogant non-answer that was apparently meant to explain that they were simplifying the content and layout of the articles. That user has only swept through some of the Upper Peninsula townships—the easiest areas to make broad edits due to the low number of municipalities—and appears to have gone away for now. While that user did make some good edits, such as moving the "History" and "Geography" sections in order and also updating population statistics, I strongly disagree with moving the communities of a township into the geography section. I don't know if or where this discussion ever took place—maybe in another state's discussions—but it appears to contrast with what has been the standard format in Michigan township articles for as long as I remember.

I believe eliminating the individual "Communities" section in an article downgrades the importance of the communities themselves, and adding that information to the "Geography" section overloads that section, especially for townships that might have many communities with lengthy descriptions, such as McMillan Township and Augusta Township—the latter of which retains that standard format of an independent "Communities" section. I don't believe that human settlements (e.g. communities) and geography are similar enough to be combined into the same section in an article. I'm not going to revert that editor's layout changes yet, because I don't know what the consensus format should be for these articles. I don't edit articles or engage in discussions for other states, but I would like some solid consistency within the Michigan municipality articles. My understanding is that the basic chronological format for a township layout has always been: Communities > History > Geography > Demographics > References > External links. I would like your thoughts on this matter, as you are a more experienced editor. I'm trying to make municipality and unincorporated community articles consistent across the state, including content and layout—a task that I believe is approximately 43.2% complete. —Notorious4life (talk) 20:33, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I think communities should be a separate section. It could be a subsection under geography, but in many township articles there are only a few level 2 sections, so making one a subsection would be a little odd. I've no strong opinion about the sequence of sections. It's been a while since I've worked on these articles. I'm guessing perhaps they are basing the organization on either Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure or WikiProject Cities/US Guideline, neither of which is strictly speaking applicable to townships, although it might make sense to align with them where appropriate. You might try asking at WikiProject Michigan. older ≠ wiser 01:56, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

"Britannia"
I'm happy to to be advised. I thought of Britannia (Ogilby) but that's ugly. Britannia (atlas) is a bit better but not very informative. Any better suggestions? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:46, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Britannia (Ogilby) is what I'd suggest unless Ogilby's Britannia is commonly used descriptive title of the work -- but even then, the Britannia part would not be in quotation marks. Someone at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (books) might be able to offer a more informed opinion. older ≠ wiser 19:34, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * TYVM, I'll consult the nomenklatura [yes, I know that is not what it means but I've always wanted an excuse to use it].
 * The British Museum and the Royal Collections Trust use the phrase (without the scare quotes) but it doesn't seem especially popular because among cartographers and their admirers, there is only one Britannia, it doesn't need disambiguation. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Reverted moves.
You appear to have reverted my recent moves with the reason "reverted bad move". Would it be possible for you to provide a more detailed explanation for the reverts? Andumé (talk) 19:27, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Base names should not redirect to disambiguated pages summarizes the issue. Briefly, if there is a primary topic, that topic should have article title with the base name (i.e., without "(disambiguation)" appended -- or in some cases it is a primary topic redirect to an article on the subject with a different title. If there is no primary topic, then the disambiguation page should be at the base name. older ≠ wiser 21:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. Andumé (talk) 04:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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I happen to know a lot more about the subject than you
Please do not undo my changes to Andy. It is a considerable improvement to the previous version which consisted of little factual information and lots of waffle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.51.63 (talk) 17:44, 17 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Based on your edits, I think not. older ≠ wiser 20:04, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I may not be older or wiser and you might not agree with my content, but my words are better than yours. 86.142.216.163 (talk) 20:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Andy, Andie, Andie, Andee, Andre, Anne Dee, etc…
Just noticed the Andy page looks like it was written by a child. Started moving noatable people called Andi to the page Andi but you reverted. There’s a number of edits required that are likely to trigger reverts so perhaps you would like to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.216.163 (talk) 20:26, 17 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that article could be improved, but I don't think splitting based on arbitrary spelling differences is very helpful. Andy is a hypocorism and shortened form for several names. The various homonyms or near-homonyms are easily confused and I don't think it is helpful to send people on a fishing trip to try and figure out what spelling applies to a name they may have heard on radio/tv program or podcast or in conversation. older ≠ wiser 20:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you need help understanding given name. 81.136.50.127 (talk) 20:45, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Nope, I understand just fine. older ≠ wiser 21:15, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

hey homo you still up for a cage fight
Andy (given name) is inappropriately titled and should be Andy (disambiguation). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.50.127 (talk) 20:43, 18 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Nope, there already is a page there and I would expect any attempt to merge the pages would be reverted (not only by me). older ≠ wiser 21:15, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

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