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January 2019
Please remember to add sources when making changes. I have done so at Jannik Skov Hansen, though I can't find any sources for the stats you added... GiantSnowman 13:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jordan Andrew Wilson


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Caps for Dutch (and Belgian) leagues
Hi there. :-) I just wanted to quickly explain why I reverted your caps update at Melvyn Lorenzen. The Dutch and Belgian leagues (and perhaps others I am not aware of) have league playoff matches after the regular season has been played. These playoff matches should be [Edit: not] counted in players' infoboxes. Unfortunately, many sources such as Soccerway don't distinguish between the two. worldfootball.net does so if we're looking to update the infoboxes of players of the Dutch and Belgian leagues it's probably the best place to check. Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 07:20, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I corrected the numbers for a bunch of ADO Den Haag players. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:40, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Please stop re-adding the playoff matches. Per WP:FOOTY consensus they are not counted. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_football_biography (Explanation for ", ... "). Robby.is.on (talk) 11:28, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, Bocanegra! Leaving the word "not" was stupid of me. Robby.is.on (talk) 15:08, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

June 2019
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July 2019
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September 2019
Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Nicklas Bendtner. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

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Renaming categories
Hi, you tagged Category:FC Svendborg players for moving, but did not add it to the listing as instructed in the template, so nothing has been done about it yet. I have now listed it for you at WP:CFDS.

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A barnstar for you!

 * Great to see that you are still very active at Enwiki! TOGB made it to the Derde Divisie! gidonb (talk) 13:52, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN
Hi. Thanks for updating Adigun Salami. Good work! :-) Links that redirect such as defensive midfielder are fine per WP:NOTBROKEN. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 11:56, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Robby.is.on, Thanks, no problem! Also thanks for the advice, much appreciated. Kind regards, Bocanegra (talk) 12:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 13:25, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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Richie Musaba
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 * Robby.is.on, Fixed it. And thanks :-). Kind regards, Bocanegra (talk) 07:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Good work! :-) Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

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Sourcing at Jacob Mulenga
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 * Robby.is.on, Fixed it, it was a work in progress ;). Kind regards, Bocanegra (talk) 08:23, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright. Good work! :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 09:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Lugnuts, Thank you so much! Nice to feel that my work is appreciated. Kind regards and happy holidays, Bocanegra (talk) 12:18, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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Pronunciation: Braithwaite
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 * Agreed. Not only does his pronunciation sound much like /æ/, but he says it was originally spelled "Brathwaite" and it's pronounced like that in the last link you gave. Article edited. Nardog (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Promotion as an honour
No, it's not treated as an honour anywhere - see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. GiantSnowman 21:05, 9 June 2021 (UTC)'
 * GiantSnowman, As far as I can see, it is still mentioned as an "Honour" under Brentford players for example. Also, I did not see anyone reach a consensus in the discussion you linked to on W:FOOTY? Knowing football, winning the play-offs - a tournament of its own inside the league structures - is a considerable honour. Kind regards, Bocanegra 22:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and look at the RFC, clear consensus there not to include it as an honour, partly because sources do not. GiantSnowman 21:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

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Scores
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Stats table totals
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colspans in stats tables
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Niek Vossebelt
Hello! Since I noticed that you had requested a peer review for this article, I dived in and left some suggestions to improve it.

I also tagged you, but it likely didn't work as expected, so that's why I'm leaving you a message here, too... : D

Still, you did a good job!

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 * Hi @Oltrepier! Thank you very much for your peer review - much appreciated. I looked at it today, and it's really helpful moving forward. Also happy that you did some editing yourself.
 * Thanks again! Bocanegra (talk) 15:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC) 15:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome! : )
 * And watch out for the new message I left on that same page... Oltrepier (talk) 20:30, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * Thanks - and thanks for helping me getting there @Oltrepier! Bocanegra (talk) 13:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thanks so much! I've made some more changes. Bocanegra (talk) 18:42, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

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NL club articles
Hey User:Bocanegra, you know I'm a huge fan of your contributions to Enwiki! So just a few things: Thanks again for all your contributions to Dutch soccer!!! Best, gidonb (talk) 11:08, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Provinces of the Netherlands. This is the first thing you would see after a placename at Nlwiki. Becasue in the Netherlands, and in Flanders as well, it has huge locational value. Not the case at Enwiki. These are not states or autonomies, just another (the highest) level of local government, and nobodoy knows or should know where and often what these are. Enwiki readers are best served by once linking a placename, then writing Netherlands (a small, compact, and unitarian country). Would the readers need to know more, then they would just click on the town.
 * Clubs are its in English. While using they is not totally wrong, as there sure are people behind them, it is preferred.
 * Putting upfront in which league a club plays. Here one problem is that this is very volatile and we do not always get back to articles to update this. For amateur soccer, it makes more sense to put in the history something along the lines of: In 2021 the club promoted to the Tweede Klasse. It may have relegated the next year, however the statement remains true and has eternal value. Otherwise we just keep updating out of date statements in the lead and never advance on the body of articles. This took me a while to figure out as well, so an occasional statement I'm now advising against may still be written by me!


 * Hey @Gidonb.
 * Thanks for the praise and the tips for writing about Dutch football clubs. I'll make sure to include those from now on.
 * How about league, result, and position in the infobox for Dutch amateur clubs? These are probably also not often updated - which also rings true for managerial changes, new heads of boards etc.? Bocanegra (talk) 13:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! I kind of expect this information to be outdated. I assume the reader with me. The biggest letdown, I think, is if we cannot get the lead or true sounding statements right. The rest we should get as good as possible. Much can be done by eternal truths. I have noticed there is a partial remedy of the problem you mention by also linking or just writing the year. I'm not an expert and looks like only a partial remedy. But if you see that the year is older you are going to expect the chances are high it hasn't been updated. I filled out the league on an article I just created: Velocitas 1897. I can recommend removing any current team field and current club in the lead for footballers now in amateur clubs. If we can keep the clubs/years up-to-date in the box that would be already great! Here too, not updated is less bad than wrong information (e.g. "XY plays at {wrong club}", "FC XYZ plays in {wrong league}", [in box] "Current team: {wrong club}"). Another thing: with these managers and presidents, if we can list them in the article (and not just update the box) that has eternal and content value. Just like with the leagues. See for example BVV Barendrecht, where I also used my competition results box developed for ASWH. I just created an article on Gidi Jacobs, so recently updated this managers list. And then we have already discussed a lot. Thank you for caring! gidonb (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've removed the league for Velocitas 1897. As you implied, the fields are just not set up good enough. gidonb (talk) 14:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

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