User talk:Dan arndt/Archive 2

Bands list
Dan, I've been thinking about the list and the discussion a few weeks back and came up with User:Moondyne/bands. Whaddya think? &mdash;Moondyne 06:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Dan, I moved the table into your user space as its really your thing and there's no sense in trying to maintain two lists. &mdash;Moondyne 04:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Weed Out
Could you review Talk:Weed Out? I'm not sure if Weed Out is the right name for the article, and I know that you are much more familiar with The Stems than I am. Thanks! ~ Bigr  Tex  21:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Epicure
On the matter of "chronology" - a chronology indicates a timeline, a series, or sequence, of events indexed by time. They are typically ordered, usually from earliest to latest. If this is an acceptable definition, then I cannot see why the chronology should not contain ALL releases by an artist, rather than just one type of release. Sa cooke 13:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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V Capri
Thank you for your contribution to my sadbox article. I felt confidant after that to move it to an stub article V Capri. I hope you can add your references where an editor has called for citations. It should become a popular article knowing my crowd at school in the 1970's.petedavo 02:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

QStik Records
The reason that I belive that the article is notable is as follows: Dan arndt 01:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The record label has assisted in identifying, promoting a number of Western Australian bands nationally and internationally - notably The Panda Band.
 * Bands on the QStik label (New Rules For Boats, Rollerskates, Faith In Plastics, The Panda Band) have recieved national and international airplay.
 * Bands on the QStik label have won a number of awards, including WAM Song of the Year & West Australian Music Industry Awards.
 * The founder of QStik Records, Adam Scott, was nominated for a 'Golden WAMI' for his contribution to the Western Australian music industry and QStik Records nominated for 'Best WA Record label' at the 2007 West Australian Music Industry Awards.


 * In response - none of the above seem to provide notability. Re 2 - can it be proven from a reliable source independent of the subject that these bands were on that label at the time they became notable (if they in fact did)? I've seen reference to at least one band which is actually on Firestarter and had to remove from the list. Re 3 - notability by association only. Re 4 - didn't win the award, so the notability value of the particular award aside, it wouldn't confer notability to this particular entity. The question is purely whether it is encyclopaedic, not whether it is a good label, etc. In order to satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria it needs to be the subject of non-trivial independent coverage by a reliable source, and most of the above (apart from the WAM stuff) is speculative/subjective in scope. Orderinchaos 01:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * My apologies re the notification issue - I had assumed this was the same as two other articles I'd prodded where it was not clear who had created the article as it then stood. In response, I'd point out that the measure you took to revert my prod (rather than simply remove it) on This Vital Chapter (which will also go to AfD, like QStik Records, once I have finished this message) is normally used for either self-reversion or vandalism - I realise you probably weren't aware of this, so thought I would make you aware. As an admin from Perth, it's my job to alert the community to articles which don't (or in some cases can't) meet the criteria for remaining as an article on Wikipedia - the fact is Perth has a very small scene and it does take a lot to establish notability. The active disinterest of the West in local music doesn't help either. Orderinchaos 01:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * This is incorrect - I apologised re the first one which was an oversight, primarily because the second and third ones were *not* created by yourself (although now that I look through, you were a significant contributor). Considering my first instinct was to speedy-delete This Vital Chapter per CSD G12 and QStik Records per CSD A7, I felt I was being fair by proposing it for deletion to allow room for objection, which it received within about 10 hours. Your contributions on WA music are noticed and valued by the community, but with these particular ones and a few related (which I understand were ones you worked on a long time ago) they clearly fail WP:N and WP:RS. Orderinchaos 01:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the notification issue has been done to death and there is nothing to be gained by further discussing it. Orderinchaos 02:39, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Notability
Music related articles always seem to have large numbers that are on the cusp of notability. And when we start talking about bands and albums which don't have any or a significant national presence it'll be even moreso. It's a challenge for all of us to interpret and stay within the guidelines and to demonstrate notability in all cases. Orderinchaos is absolutely correct in challenging that when he sees it lacking and the onus is on the creator to put up. Dan, keep doing what your doing and don't get bitter and twisted. &mdash;Moondyne 04:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Panda Band
Looks fine to me. Check WP:MUSIC for some guidelines...&mdash; Selmo  (talk) 18:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding QStik Records
You can consider arguing along the lines of the bands they are the label of. If enough bands under them are significantly notable, you can say it makes the label inherently notable as well.--Kylohk 09:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There is no independent sources for that information. I have actually checked with people concerned before making the above edit, so I am on fairly safe ground here. FFC were with Congregation since the first commercially available EP. Please do not re-insert incorrect information into the article. Orderinchaos 03:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I would have thought that the band's own website would have been accurate enough - check which clearly shows that their debut EP released in 2000 was on the QStik Records label (Catalogue No.QSFFC0006).  Similarly Dyslexic Fish's album Mission:Inappropriate was released in April 2003 under the QStik label (check Australia Music Online Catalogue No. QS011). I'd be interested to know where your sources come form as I have been able to verify these details independently which I can't say the same for you.  Dan arndt 03:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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July 2007
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/This Vital Chapter. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ''Removing others comments from an AfD is highly inappropriate, particularly one so contentious to you. If you don't like what is said, then challenge it in a manner which assumes good faith and keeps the angry mastodons at bay. Deleting those comments is censorship, and will not be tolerated.'' Thewinchester (talk) 02:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Smile!


WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. -WarthogDemon 06:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * thank you :) I hope that we can put the Wikidrama of the last week behind us, as I really hope we can work together on our shared interest of WA culture and arts. Zivko85 07:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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Possible vandalism
Dan, would you mind having a look at Special:Contributions/74.100.165.41 and comment whether this user is making productive edits or not. eg.  I can't decide whether its tricky vandalism or not. &mdash;Moondyne 01:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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Eskimo Joe
Both songs recieved extensive airplay, particularly on Triple J (like u said).

Airplay singles.

ok w/e

Alchemist
Dan, I was going to ask you why you changed the category there, but I figured it out so it's all good. Cheers. BrianFG 06:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah that makes sense to me!BrianFG 10:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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Reminder
Meetup/Perth/3 is next sunday 19th August, if you haven't already please sign on the meetup page if your coming, if your still unsure indicate anyway so I can confirm numbers with the venue thankyou Gnangarra 00:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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Cyclic Defrost
''Whilst I don't have a particular strong view on whether Cyclic Defrost should be included on Template :Australianmusic I find it curious that one of the main supporters is Fortunegrey who's only contributions appear to be on the Cyclic Defrost article or providing links on other musical articles to Cyclic Defrost. Is it my suspicious nature but could he possible be a Cyclic Frost contributor and hence why is pushing it be included. As previously stated nobody I know in music in Western Australia or South Australia is familar with Cyclic Defrost - probably 'cause its circulation is only 5.000 copies and released three times a year. Dan arndt 08:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)''


 * That contributor is a SPA. I also don't have a particularly strong view regarding the inclusion of CD on the template, except that it is too large already. These maxi-templates seem to be everywhere and the people who keep enlarging them seem to be missing the point of what they're there for. ie. a navigation aid. Articles should link usefully, not spamfully. They uglify the prose. Another shocker is Template:Indigenous Australians. &mdash;Moondyne 09:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:SPA. Sorry. &mdash;Moondyne 09:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Archiving
There's basically two ways of doing it. See Help:Archiving a talk page which discusses advanatages and disadvantages of each method. I prefer the latter. I also have bot tags on my talk page which automatically archives conversation older than 5 days into my latest archive.
 * 1) The easiest is probably to just move the page to a new archive page. ie. Move User talk:Dan arndt &rarr; User talk:Dan arndt/Archive 1 .  Note that this leaves behind a #REDIRECT tag in your talk page which you'll need to remove manually.
 * 2) Go into edit mode on your talk page and cut and paste into a archive page. eg. User talk:Dan arndt/Archive 1

If you want, I'll set it all up for you. &mdash;Moondyne 00:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * That archives template is pretty clever - it automatically lists all the archive pages found. Is that OK? &mdash;Moondyne 05:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC) You need to updatet the "|counter = ?" to the next archive number whenever you want the bot to start writing to a new archive. &mdash;Moondyne 05:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah g,day
I been checking some of the arts of musos and their mates and I sorta think that lead sentences like dissa one orta get punctured with a bloody axe:

"X' were a band who played in the Sydney live music scene in the early 1980s who also had a couple of national chart hits and received national airplay.

Just an idea to check about lead sentences - there is no link about australia or sydney where or anything. Nothing against you or your mates who find these god foraseken musos - but national repeated - and what bloody national? timbucktoo? nah -

X was a band from Sydney, Australia(maka d links!). They played the live music scene and achieved national attention in the 1980s.

Just an idea - maybe i got da lead sentence blues, and dem sparks of da highly literate eds and their brilliant english need a kicka up da....  Worth checking arts that you ed - just check is it really a lead sentence at the beginning? nah? well give it the treatment I say- cheers SatuSuro 02:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Groove 101.7 is the same - a lead sentence in the making - but some links would be a very good idea, imho (ok some others mightnt) otherwise where the hell does it link to? This aint a personal thing - I just happened to lurk in the obscure and suddenly i find this stuff - thought id drop a line just in case you o even more obscure pathways and find stuff that can get a better lead in SatuSuro 02:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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Mitchell
Excellent, well done. Hesperian 05:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ross McLarty also. Two names I can now cross off my to-do list.  &mdash;Moondyne 05:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

When I said "excellent, well done", it turns out I actually meant "dreadful, terribly done", as this is not your own work but rather a copy of the ADB, and therefore a copyright violation.

I haven't had a great deal to do with you, so before I go postal on you, can you explain to me how you could possibly not realise that copying other people's work into Wikipedia is (a) dishonest; (b) illegal; and (c) a policy violation?

Hesperian 11:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Dan, I already started reworking Ross McLarty and it wouldn't take too much more work there to resolve the copyright issue. Unfortunately I don't have much time today, but he and Mitchell does need to be sorted out. &mdash;Moondyne 01:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * McLarty is now OK. &mdash;Moondyne 02:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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re:Calerway
I'm not sure what either of you were intending to do, but the use of non-free images in this manner violates WP:NFCC, yes. — M o e   ε  02:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've already tagged both the images for deletion since they are unused non-free images. As for notices to the user, and I assume you mean User:Darkside05‎, I left a message at the article talk page about the image removals, and if he reverts please point him to my talk page. — M o e   ε  02:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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 * Source & Fair Rationale provided. Dan arndt 08:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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Did the artist give any interviews at the time this album was released? Did the album win any awards? What coverage did the album receive and how well did it sell? Information like that could expand this article greatly. Hope this helps. Cheers. -- Longhair\talk 01:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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There has been more recent comment at the Perth, WA and the project noticeboard about the stuff you had to initially cope with when you started your music material - you might want to check them as I think there might be something that ties in with what you have been doing. Sorry in a rush - hope I am not as incomprehensible as the last message some time back - sorry for that! SatuSuro 01:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Perth%2C_Western_Australia&diff=prev&oldid=158593712 - I do hope you forgive me my rambling lead sentence rave :( SatuSuro 01:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Dan, thanks for letting me about your list (which looks good, by the way). To be honest, as I think i mentioned to you earlier I should probably stay away from music articles as my knowledge of popular music finishes at about 1996!  My interest is more in improving the main Perth article and the big list of bands unbalanced that a lot.  I don't really have any interest in the future of the list, although I will say that your list of Western Australia bands is much more useful than the list I hived off from the main article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattinbgn (talk • contribs) 08:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The Someloves
I don't think it's a copyvio at all :/ -- Longhair\talk 06:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed it. The talk page mentions a copyvio examination. I don't see the harm in allowing that to happen. -- Longhair\talk 06:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, someone was taking the piss... -- Longhair\talk 06:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I dont think so either - check with moondyne see what he thinks SatuSuro 06:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ditto from me also. I was reading the allmusic page as Longhair reverted it.  Thanks guys. &mdash;Moondyne 06:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Appreciate all of your (combined) assistance - I just wasn't certain of the 'formal' process as its the first time thats happened to me & didn't want to get myself into any strife. Dan arndt 06:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yo! strife? hey thats us folks - strife and agony - (we dont take no piss from no one) - west oz editors keeping the oz project in action :) SatuSuro 07:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ahah - the element of dealing with wikipedia over time - maybe thats a good cd/lp title - what are you like on the spoons? I can tap my feet :( SatuSuro 09:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The Someloves
I cannot for the life of me work out how this article is a copyright violation it doesn't resemble the reference you have cited ['All Music Guide'] at all - the basic facts are the same but thats only becuase they are historical and not in dispute. I would appreciate it if you could clarify exactly where this copyright violation exists and I would be happy to correct it. Dan arndt 05:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to set off all this controversy; I honestly wasn't taking the piss. I only skimmed it, and saw this part at the end:
 * Although The Someloves only released one album and remain virtually unknown on an international level Both Mather and Mariani did remain active in the Australian rock scene, Mather going on to The Orange Humble Band, and Mariani to DM3 and the instrumental group the Majestic Kelp, also recording a solo album in 2004.
 * Something Or Other is widely considered one of the essential power-pop recordings and is highly regarded among power pop collectors. It's re-release in 2006 as a two CD complitation Don't Talk About Us: The Real Pop Recordings of the Someloves 1985-89, includes complete with a critical review of Mariani and Mather's inter-related stories, substantial interviews and a bonus disc of non-album singles and remixes. ~ Richie Unterberger, All Music Guide
 * about 1/4 of which is straight from the AMG bio. With the inclusion of Richie's credit at the end there (which has since been removed) I leaped to conclusions and tagged it up. Still, the article is quite the quote farm; any chance of getting most of that removed? That was why I tagged it with the mag tag (that and some of the writing, most of which has been cleaned up). I can do a copy-edit myself, but didn't have the time when I originally tagged it. Again, sorry for causing all this hubub. Precious Roy 13:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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No worries. Above is looking good. Well done. &mdash;Moondyne 04:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

QStik Records
Hi Dan, I noticed you recreated this article which was deleted after a previous discussion. After some news and websearching I've marked the page for deletion as the label still fails to have any reliable third-party sources talking primarily about it. - Peripitus (Talk) 10:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Dan, I've listed this for a deletion discussion (Articles for deletion/QStik Records (2nd nomination), as I think it needs a wider view. Per my comments at the first discussion Qstick seems to fail the primary notability requirement of them having been primarily written about. They seem to have attracted very little attention which makes it impossible to have a verifyable article - Peripitus (Talk) 11:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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 * Image:Hi-fidelity dirt.jpg
 * Image:The Final Wave.jpg
 * Image:Ttm-schvendes.jpg
 * Image:Seventypie-rollerskates.jpg
 * Image:Suze-bigwednesday.jpg
 * Image:Suze-dryyoureyes.jpg
 * Image:Suze-karma.jpg
 * Image:Suze-openwindows.jpg
 * Image:Suze-satellite.jpg
 * Image:Suze-younghearts.jpg
 * Image:SuzeTelelove.jpg
 * Image:Stems mushroom soup.gif
 * Image:Stems-buds.gif
 * Image:Stems-first sight.jpg
 * Image:Stems-tour.jpg
 * Image:Step off the edge.jpg
 * Image:Soundsofthen.jpg
 * Image:Two wings-album.jpg
 * Image:Play-radarmaker.jpg
 * Image:Inabox.jpg
 * Image:Love is mighty close-album.jpg
 * Image:Fergusons-hitchhike.jpg
 * Image:Fergusons-sinner.jpg
 * Image:Fergusons-washing machine.jpg
 * Image:Live and acoustic-album.jpg
 * Image:Karnivool-persona.JPG
 * Image:Mouth of the river-album.jpg
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 * Image:Mp-radio single.jpg
 * Image:Mp-radio.jpg
 * Image:Mp-smugglers.gif
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 * Image:Letitburn.jpg
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AfD nomination of Cartman (band)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Cartman (band), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.  En dl ess Dan  13:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The band does meet a number of the notability criteria in that:

As such I believe the band satisfies the notability criteria and should be retained. For the record I have no connection with the band or any of the band members. Dan arndt 01:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) the band has been subject of multiple non-trivial independent published works.
 * 2) the band has toured nationally around Australia.
 * 3) has been nominated and won several awards/music competitions.
 * 4) has had a song used in a national television show.
 * 5) has had songs placed in ration nationally by a major radio network.

Replaceable fair use Image:Cartman(band-pic).jpg
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Rationales
A bit of this madness has been going around. Better tip you off - the criteria the bot is looking for is the rationale not containing "Fair use in article name ". If it's an album cover or a band logo (not a band photo), feel free to pinch from the following rationale:


 * 1) It is the only possible image that could illustrate the information at hand
 * 2) It was not created by a wikipedia user nor was it created before 1923, and therefore could not be made into a free image
 * 3) There is no detriment to the band's right to exercise their copyright on their work by the image being on Wikipedia.
 * 4) It appears only on an article dealing critically with the music found on the above album.

We may disagree on some things, but out-of-control Wikiprocess I think we can agree on. Orderinchaos 03:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, on looking, I see you've got a rationale happening - but still needs the "in (article)", probably needs to say "critical or educational" and make a reference to the 1923 thing. I've done The Final Wave and a couple of others. Orderinchaos 03:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries, I've been following the issue on AN/I and on IRC, so that's how I knew what they were looking for this time. I'm just waiting to see what obscure reasons for deletion they come up with next (i.e. in a couple of months). Orderinchaos 04:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for Image:Cockburnlogo.jpg
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 * Fair Use Rational provided.Dan arndt 09:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Album Formatting
It’s not that I’m unaware of that particular point of style on Wikipedia, rather that I think people here are being far too literal about it and thoughtlessly imposing a style that really makes no sense. On top of that, I was, in one way or another, involved in the creation of several pages related to the Blackeyed Susans that I ensured were internally consistent, that weren’t (in my opinion and for reasons that will become clear) out of line with the style, and that I found later were no longer consistent because of such changes (which I therefore reverted).

Saying all of that as someone who only registered on Tuesday, I should probably explain myself. First, though I’m not actually working as an editor at a moment, my entire working career has been spent in communications – my responsibilities have included writing style sheets for several magazines. Second, I’ve always gone out of my way to apply the sixth – and by far the most important – of Orwell’s five rules. Paraphrased, Orwell’s sixth states that you should break any of the previous five rules rather than say anything that’s avoidably ugly.

Now, I happen to think that the liberal use of "square quotes" rather than “typographer’s quotes” around Wikipedia is ugly in itself. And though I wouldn’t in any case choose that style myself (preferring the use of italics for both song and album titles) I will concede that it serves a purpose. But that’s only when it’s used in body copy, where the quotes alert the reader to the fact that what he or she is looking at is a title rather than part of the writer’s argument.

In a list, however, they serve no purpose at all, since it is already obvious from the context that the material in quotes is a title. They are therefore avoidably ugly and should be deleted.

Which brings me to the style guide. Last time I checked, the relevant section read as follows.

Songs and singles are placed in "quotation marks", album titles are italicized and artists are left alone, with punctuation outside quotation marks, for example:

"The Beatles' songs 'Taxman', 'Eleanor Rigby' and 'Love You To' are from their album Revolver."

It’s quite clear in this example that the albums style guide is talking about the use of quotes in body copy, and it therefore makes no comment at all on how titles should be formatted in lists. And that brings us back to Orwell’s sixth and my deletion of the quote marks.

If you happen to know how I should go about raising this with the people responsible for Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums, I’d love to know. Those quote marks jar horribly. --BlueThird 14:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Chad’s Tree
Afraid that my knowledge of Chad’s Tree, The Jackson Code and Martha’s Vineyard is basically zero to non-existent. My interest in the Susans comes from my love of David McComb’s work, and because I was in the UK at the time it never really widened from the Susans to the rest of those groups. That said, I’m a regular poster at The Triffids’ forum and might be able to rustle up some interest from people there who certainly would know about them. And I’d be happy to cast an editorial eye across the results, if that’s of any use.

With The Blackeyed Susans stuff, I’ve changed the quotes back to how I had them (since it was easier to achieve consistency that way) and done my best to ensure that they’re consistent across all of the Susans pages. I’ve also taken track times across to the main discography page and made a few other minor changes (mainly swapping hyphens for en-rules). Hopefully I’ll have some time later today to post my thoughts at WikiProject Albums and will follow the debate with interest!

Incidentally, what’s the story with Cockburn City? Until yesterday I had no idea that I share my surname with a football club! --BlueThird 05:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Chad's Tree
I'm afraid I'm on the same lines as Blue Third on this; I came to BES via David McComb also and didn't investigate his other collaborators. I was in the UK when the Triffids broke out of Australia and in Australia when the first couple of BES EPs came out, seeing them live in Sydney (sadly sans McComb) once. I have the Martha's Vineyard album and a single so I might be able to bodge something together for them but I don't think it'd be worth it as it wouldn't be even vaguely authoritative. EkeW 07:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Some Night, Somewhere - Blackeyed Susans
I'll check when I get home. As far as I recall the only information is what I put in the album sidebar. EkeW 15:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep, Continental Cafe, Melbourne is all it says on the sleeve as far as location goes (I notice that I originally put Electric Cafe for some strange reason but Blue Third kindly corrected it for me). EkeW 09:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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Disputed fair use rationale for various
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 * Image:Calenture.jpg
 * Image:Calling in the lions.jpg
 * Image:Ac-shutdown.jpg
 * Image:Crawlspace-afraid.jpg
 * Image:Crawlspace-away.jpg
 * Image:Crawlspace-gone to my head.jpg
 * Image:Crawlspace-lesson.jpg
 * Image:Crawlspace-motion.jpg
 * Image:Amazing world.jpg
 * Image:A-sleepwalking.jpg
 * Image:Blackjack 2007.jpg
 * Image:Beating like a drum.jpg
 * Image:Dayfornight bankholidays.jpg
 * Image:Current-work-vol1.jpg
 * Image:Cartman(band-pic).jpg
 * Image:Cartman-george.jpg
 * Image:Cartman-go.jpg
 * Image:Cartman-nobody.jpg
 * Image:Cartman-policeman.jpg
 * Image:Drones ep.jpg
 * Image:Drones live.jpg
 * Image:Drones-HereComeTheLies.jpg
 * Image:Drones-biac.jpg
 * Image:Drones-cloth.jpg
 * Image:Drones-gala mill.jpg
 * Image:Drones-sfb.jpg
 * Image:Drones-tmd.jpg
 * Image:Drones-wlbtratboyewfb.jpg
 * Image:Electric Soup.jpg
 * Image:Electric chair HG.jpg
 * Image:CycloneCol1.jpg
 * Image:Asg-domino.jpg
 * Image:Asg-driver.jpg
 * Image:Asg-lostroads.jpg
 * Image:Cave comes alive.jpg

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RE: Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Dirty Water BES.jpg
I see what you mean! Thanks for doing that for me - Eke EkeW 11:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Downsyde albums
Dan, it would be inappropriate to close an AfD after a request to do so from one of the supporters. I've voted to keep, which is the best I can do and I guess is what a neutral closer will determine. The only reason it hasn't been closed already is that only 3 editors had commented before me and its difficult to gauge consensus on just that. &mdash;Moondyne 12:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Brightblack.jpg
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Bad Timing edit
You're welcome. Having done it myself, I know exactly how things like that happen: You edit and edit to get everything right--except you miss that one thing, because it's so obvious you just don't see it. Happy editing! -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  05:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for various
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 * Image:Cartman-george.jpg
 * Image:Cartman-go.jpg
 * Image:Cartman-nobody.JPG
 * Image:Cartman-policeman.jpg
 * Image:Blackjack 2007.jpg
 * Image:Flairz-bullseye.jpg
 * Image:Flairz-rrae.jpg
 * Image:A-sleepwalking.jpg
 * Image:Electric Soup.jpg
 * Image:Calenture.jpg

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Comment
This will sound incredibly anal, because it is. But each of those rationales needs to be "Fair use... (etc) for Calenture (album)". The bot thinks "The article isn't directly linked from the rationale, so I'll mark it for deletion". You'd think that intelligence could be built into it, and I wonder what is happening with album covers which aren't in our domain (i.e. other countries). So yes, it will look odd, but it will keep roving bots away. Orderinchaos 10:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for various images
Thanks for uploading
 * Image:Lost&lonely.jpg
 * Image:Gigantic.jpg
 * Image:Girl god.jpg
 * Image:Heathen Songs.jpg
 * Image:Heathen songs.jpg
 * Image:Jojozep.jpg
 * Image:In The Pines.jpg
 * Image:Gyro injuring green.jpg
 * Image:Gyro injuring purple.jpg
 * Image:Gyro injuring red a.jpg
 * Image:Gyro injuring red.jpg
 * Image:Gyro injuring yellow.jpg
 * Image:Gyro injuring.jpg
 * Image:Hellocleveland.jpg
 * Image:Karnivool-persona.JPG
 * Image:Katalyst-whats-happening.JPG
 * Image:Letitburn.jpg
 * Image:Note enough rope.gif
 * Image:Myway-ner.gif
 * Image:Nrfb thousands.jpg.
 * Image:More Wharf.jpg

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 * Fair Use Rationale provided for all images - except Image:Heathen Songs.jpg which I realise I had downlaoded two images of the same album cover have rationalised those in the relevant articles. Dan arndt 09:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Grand theft auto.jpg
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hold on (spencer tracy).jpg
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Disputed fair use rationale for blah blah blah
Thanks for the tip. I find it very difficult to bring myself to care to be frank - it's certainly put me off bothering to create any more pages! I'll keep up with the ones I get notified of as they come through and do my best to correct them. EkeW 14:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ha ha, I didn't mean I won't - just that it put me off. I don't mind the bots when they're looking for something sensible but this instance of adding a link to the page that the picture's used in is just plain imbecilic. Hey ho...


 * Anyway, I might be able to get a scan of the cover for Hard Liquor, Soft Music so, if it turns up, I'll see if I can get that one right first time! EkeW 11:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Heathen Songs.jpg)
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List
Is looking good. I went to school with Gary Twinn. &mdash;Moondyne 07:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure is! &mdash;Moondyne 08:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed Fair Use Rationales
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 * Image:Palerider drapht.jpg - done
 * Image:Panics factorygirl.jpg - done
 * Image:Panics-kyad.jpg - done

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Faire Use Rationales added for all above images.Dan arndt (talk) 07:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

The Silents
You edit to The Silents article was undone, as using non-free images goes against Wikipedia official policy. Please refer to item #1 under the "Acceptable images" section for clarification. If you're able to find a free version of this image, feel free to use that instead, but the licensing for does not allow it. Cheers and happy editing.  Esradekan Gibb      "Talk" 03:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Miss Freelove
Thanks for the info! I read the articles for every album. I guess I just missed it. Strange that a Wikipedia search didn't turn up either the band or the album page. -Freekee (talk) 06:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed Fair Use Rationales for Various Images
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Disputed Fair Use Rationales for Cartman
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 * Image:Cartman-george.jpg - done
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Replaceable fair use Image:Downsyde.gif
Thanks for uploading Image:Downsyde.gif. I noticed the description page specifies that the media is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this media is not replaceable, please:


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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Cartman-go.jpg
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Already previously done! (Bloody Bot!)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Feeding-the-wolves.jpg
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Done!!

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Electric Soup.jpg
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Modified previous - done!!