User talk:DarkFalls/Archive June 2007

Vandalism
I haven't been on the gwen stanfini page, Ive been looking at maths all night for an assignment. So you've got the wrong vandal buddy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mako45 (talk • contribs)
 * If you can please give me the ip address instead of creating a new account, I could figure out the problem. As it stands, you are probably on a dynamic or shared ip address, so another person with the ip address has vandalized, not you. If so, ignore the message. -- Dark Falls   talk 10:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for making my signature. I slighty modifyed it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runewiki777 (talk • contribs)
 * No problems. -- Dark Falls  talk 23:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

RfA
Hi, just wanted to let you know that I've now replied to the question you raised in my RfA. Best wishes/ Pax:Vobiscum 08:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And to your second question. Thanks/ Pax:Vobiscum 08:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Hello. Thanks for particapating in the help Runewiki777 get a better signature program. Ru n e Wi k i      777  15:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

YechielMan's RFA
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Please take a few minutes to read User:YechielMan/Other stuff/RFA review and advise me how to proceed. Best regards. Yechiel Man 21:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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My RfA ...
Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship. It was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 06:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Rfa
Just dropping by to say "thank you" for supporting me in my recent my RfA. I passed the vote, and am now an admin. It will take me some getting used to with the new tools, but I thank you again for the trust. Have a good one, and, as always, happy editing! Jmlk 1  7  05:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Recent AIV report
Hi there. You recently accused a user of being a sockpuppet on AIV. I've removed the listing, and am now moving it to Suspected sock puppets where it should have been placed. Please report all sock puppets there in the future.

ChrischTalk 09:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They were obvious socks which were known to be disruptive. Replied on talk. -- Dark Falls  talk 09:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Seems the user was already blocked, but keep up the good anti-vandal work! :) Jmlk  1  7  09:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[[User:Tennisuser123/Sandbox
I understand you didn't mean anything bad, but you shouldn't edit someone else's userspace. Arienh4 12:23, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Copyright is much more important than something that is frowned upon by on Wikipedia, such as editing userspace. -- Dark Falls  talk 12:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * See also User talk:Arienh4. – Ilse@
 * By the way you missed two of them the second time. – Ilse@ 12:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Ireland's External Links
Hi Mr DarkFalls, thank you for answering my question on Alison's Talk page.

About my link to Ireland, the website contains a lot of researched information on dental problems as well, written by a dentist. It is not a website made to sell anything online. So why do you think that it was considered as spam?

Thank you.

Anto.
 * The source should contain information that is not covered by other reliable sources already in the article. The website you linked may be considered spam, because it contains information that may potentially be used to sell a service, in this case the services of a dentist. -- Dark Falls  talk 05:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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Schools Roll
Thanks for the template for citing my school roll book. Should I add a note for how people can access the book in case they want to check the info? Can you suggest a way to do this? Can I do it by entering another field in the template? Toadtoad 09:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Is the roll book info available on the web? If not, just enter the year, educational facility and class of the roll into the template. A suitable finishing template could look like this:

Which produces  (Ive bolded it to make it stand out, but the normal template isn't in bold.) As to the answer to the last question, you cannot create a new field/parameter without modifying the actual source code. Hope it helps! -- Dark Falls  talk 10:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XIII - June 2007
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Help!
A month ago or so, you have made a new signature for me. It worked well, until I got this message in my prefernces. My signature was over 255 characters, so I can't use my signature. Help!!!!! Runewiki777 21:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Try  which should be within the 255 limit... Cheers!-- Dark Falls   talk 06:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/DrKiernan
Hello. I read your oppose comment on Requests_for_adminship/DrKiernan. I'm not sure if you've looked at the various other comments that have been made since but I'm coming here to ask you to reconsider your position. I don't know DrKiernan and have no particular stake in this RfA. I do, however, have the best interests of Wikipedia at heart and I'm wary of the shortage of admins and the sometimes peculiar turns that RfAs can take. You opposed on grounds that the candidate is looking for a badge or trophy, yet I really can't see where you got that impression. From what I can see, DrKiernan is a trusted user and even admins with fairly low activity are useful to the project as a whole. I think he has provided quite a bit more information about himself since you gave your opinion and a number of good points in his favour have been made. So if you have a minute, please consider looking at the RfA again. Thanks, Pascal.Tesson 15:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No problems... Had a look at the Rfa. Thanks for the note. -- Dark Falls  talk 08:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for creating a new signature for me. I slightly modifyed it.

AIV
Man, you are quite on top of the anti-vandalism work...gotta love it. Keep it up, and happy editing my Aussie friend :) Jmlk  1  7  09:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not going very fast though... The new tw warning system is lagging... -- Dark Falls  talk 09:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
There we go :)  Daniel  06:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Now that's what I call speed... -- Dark Falls  talk 06:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * See my talk for how :)  Daniel  06:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * O, but still pretty fast... :)-- Dark Falls  talk 06:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, I removed your old username (User:Kzrulzuall), just to be safe. Is that fine with you, or do you plan on using Kzrulzuall at all?  Daniel  07:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope... Good idea in case someone decides to re-create my old account... -- Dark Falls  talk 07:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You probably should re-create it yourself, just to prevent someone abusing exactly that. Writing something like this (the May 15 summary) by making a null edit somewhere also helps for people who arrived at Special:Contributions/Kzrulzuall via links when you had your old account (ie. etc.). Just a thought.  Daniel  07:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice... although for some random reason, the password on that sock is 21 digits... -- Dark Falls  talk 07:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:)
No, it wasn't! I just shifted something today and must have accidentally put a space in there, but felt too lazy to fix it. Thanks! Nice new name, by the way, I was wondering where KZ had gone! Riana ⁂  10:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks... -- Dark Falls  talk 06:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:NPOV
Hello I just could not understand what was wrong with stating that Steven Gerrard is considered to be one of the worlds best footballers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3E933333Boy (talk • contribs)


 * The thing that is wrong with that statement is that many people (such as fans of Man U or Chelsea) will consider that as false. As a general guideline, the situation in which a player could be considered "great" include induction into the English football hall of fame (English players), or the FIFA 100(international). Furthermore, the information should be accompanied by a reference to multiple press material (BBC Sport, NYT et cetera ) stating it as a fact. As I am not an expert on this topic, I suggest asking people at the Football WikiProject for further information.  -- Dark Falls   talk 06:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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Image:TAM A350.JPG
I've added my reply on first fair use to the image page. It is unlikely (if not impossible) that there is a free image available of a future airplane when none have been built yet. The only source of images would be the aircraft builder, and thus could only be used on a fair use basis.--Dali-Llama 14:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Dark, in response to your latest comment: I can't speak for the other articles, but on the TAM Linhas Aéreas article, if there is a paragraph commenting on the purchase of Airbus A350s by TAM, it is reasonable (if not expected) that we illustrate how these planes would look in TAM's colors. Therefore it cannot be replaced (The better question is replaced with what? The CG image is the only image available), and it is unique in that sense, as the picture below it is illustrating another plane, a Boeing 777 (There's a point in that they all look alike, I know, but still--both are important in their own contexts). I can't defend its placement in other articles, but at least in the TAM article it matches the two criteria you've mentioned (which have to do specifically with the availability of freer alternatives, I believe)--Dali-Llama 13:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring - Zadar
Hello! I don't know who to apply to, but I see that you are the member of anti-vandalism project so maybe you could help me. I'm trying to edit an objective history of Croatian city Zadar but I have a lot of problems with user Giovanni Giove. As I can see all of Croatian editors who are editing anything about Croatian history have problems with him. The point is that he is an obvious follower of "Irredenta Italiana", political movement of Italian extremists, which is perceived in Croatia the same as fascism. He is even not trying to hide it, since his source is History of Zara (italian) - Irredentismo page! I know this is free encyclopedia but this is too much!

Back to the Zadar article... He deletes anything connected with Croats and Croatia, he doesn't appear on the talk page, manipulating with data and changing the contexts in the text is normal acting for him. He even noted me as a sock puppet of some other banned user. I don't want to be banned because of the reverting, but in the same time I cannot let him to edit shameless lies about the city I'm living in. So I need help. I apreciate if you take a look at the page and the talk page. If you can't help me maybe you can refer me to someone else. Is there any need for arbitration or something like that? Regards. Zenanarh 00:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * First of all, thank you for not edit warring with him on the article. Important things to consider about this article, are the reliability of sources and the neutral point of view policy. You definitely seem to be correct about Zadar being in Croatia, as the country code for the official website is .hr. I'll have a talk with him about his edit warring and POV, but if that doesn't work I suggest you file an RFC regarding his behavior. -- Dark Falls  talk 01:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * At present day the city is in Croatia. But it has joined Croatia after 1947, after the expulsion of the Italian autochtone population. The above user shall stop to change the article in a pro croatian way, selecting the single sources to enforce their own poin of wiev. This supposed movement I should be member was dismantailed about 70 years ago, and ws not an 'extremist' movement. I can provide sources to show that official history of Croatia (that one you can read in newspaper or books) is heavy poisoned by nationalistic claims. I am not responsable if, for nationalistic pourpouses, Croatians want to enforce the idea that all the territory of present day Croatia were ALWAYS Croatian. Zara was, as a matter of fact, a mainly Italian city, for history, language, culture. Today is not, but I wrote of History and not of present day. The abpive usere shall stop to wrote mass, enforcinc POV ad he did in the 'middle age' section. I beg you to correct the masg you left in my page. Last thinh now Maraschino article is tottaly referrencied, it was the above user to start edit wars, and not me! --Giovanni Giove 08:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Forgot: I use several source, and in my edits I always keep in mind the concept of 'neutrality'. Of course it is hard to be neutral with the followers of extreme Nationalist ideas.--Giovanni Giove 08:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If that is the case, please present your argument on the talk page of the article. Unless I am mistaken, Zenanarh stopped his edit warring immediately when I asked him to stop, but you didn't. Please read the reliable sources policy, stop accusing others of being "abusive" or "nationalists", and stop editing the page until the issue is sorted out. If you do that, I will immediately retract my comments on your talk, and apologize. Thank you. -- Dark Falls  talk 08:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with your idea, it was my same idea. Best regards.--Giovanni Giove 09:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Zadar was in Croatia from 10th or 11th century until 1409. From 15th to 18th it was under Venetian ruling and after that in Croatia again, since Croatia was a part of Austrian monarchies. It was under Italy from 1920 to 1943. These are historical facts. Also Zadar is the city very important for Croatian history, a half of that history was written in Zadar. Since Venice ruled Dalmatia for a long time ~400 years, Italian language was forced as an administrative one, so we have situation in 19th century that 15.000 - 20.000 people in Dalmatia with political and economical privilegies tried to show that Dalmatia was Italian land. The population of Dalmatia in that century was ~400.000 people. In addition, those "Italians" were actually pro-Italians, Croats in fact the mostly. I have scientific research which shows that only ~1.500 of them were real Italians, by the roots. In those ages (19th) Italian irredentism was born and is reborn again after the collapse of former Yugoslavia (17 years ago). And Giovane you really are the follower of that movement, don't deny it. Your edits are anything but not objective. You are deleting anything where Croats or Croatia were mentioned not only on that page as I can see and what is the best of all, you are deleting the parts of sentences used from the sources so it have changed meaning. That's not really objective. And you are not the one who can decide what is objective. The way you do it is expression of your personal POV. It has nothing to do with official history. If you have some relevant data please put it on the talk page before deleting and reverting in the article. And by the way, your referenced history of Maraschino is referenced history of Luxardo family, not Maraschino in fact. My old family in Dalmatia produced Rožolj (Maraschino) for 300 years. Administrators should inspect all your edits about anything in Dalmatia or Croatia in Wikipwedia. It would be quite enough... You really shouldn't edit anything this way. Regards Zenanarh 10:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

If there's nothing I can do I agree, but actually this is not fair to put me in that position. Now I'm the one who must prove that official history is relevant. My edits were followed by the sources and explained in the talk page. His edits were not. Non of it. He reverted the page into his last version with the comment that it is some other version! And now you ask me is it OK with me? Doesn't it mean that he is rewarded for his violent editing and reverting? Just look at the sources. Some of that sources are used from both of us, but he used it selectively! He has finally appeared on the talk page and... Just look at the talk page and you'll see how mr. Giovane discuss. He accused me of lying. He didn't even sign his posts. He did at the end but his comments were placed among mine comments so it lost the original shape. And he even deleted a part of my comment which detected his manipulation! Now I have repaired it, but what can I expect furthermore? Please take a look at it... That's all I ask. My last version was the objective one and it was just a little part of the article, since I didn't reach the other parts yet. And by the way that other parts are extreme POV with data from irredentistic page written in Italian language. Without translation. Is it transparent? Is it Wiki policy? If we must start from this position then you force me to write all history book of Zadar in the talk page or all of Britannica and other official history books in all languages and it still means nothing cos it can take a several years of fighting over every word! In that case sources mean nothing. With this starting position you have rewarded him even his edits were extreme POV! Unbelievable! Regards Zenanarh 12:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, as it seems that you do not agree with the revision, we now have to find an revision in which both parties can agree to, to make things fair. I have in mind this revision, which seems to be pretty neutral. Feel free to list the revisions in which you will be happy with, and I'll compare them and come up with an solution. Cheers. -- Dark Falls  talk 12:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I agree. Although there are still some wrong data, that is much better as starting position than the present version. But I want to ask you this: who can stop him from reverting, deleting and editing without consensus on the talk page? Zenanarh 14:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt he will edit that article again until the dispute has been resolved. In the unlikely case that he does that, a full protection might be necessary for the article, until consensus is reached. If we assume good faith, I am pretty sure he will refrain from doing that. -- Dark Falls  talk 00:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The present situation is ok. User Zen can edit it in a proper way. User Zen. shall no more delete my sources, to put his own instead. He shall no more cut and paste, he shall use trustable sources. The comments he added were copied from some Croatian tourist site (of terrible level BTW). Most of all he shall forgot some nationalistc POV.--Giovanni Giove 20:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I presume both parties will not mind if I revert to this edition, on the condition that there will not be any further editing, besides uncontroversial grammar corrections, until the dispute has resolved. If so, reply back here with confirmation... If you do have any problems, comment here and I'll try to fix it. -- Dark Falls  talk 05:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe he thinks that silence can keep the status quo. But there's no way that article stays like this. I'm preparing the sources. It is true that I've previously used sources from the net (tourist sites) but it's also true that those sites use reliable data from the history books. I didn't have to translate it that way. The most richest history of Zadar was written in 3 toms of "Povijest Zadra I,II,III" in Croatian language in the very same place - Zadar, with the basis in all known historical sources - Zadar archives in Zadar - in the first place (old documents, inscriptions, papers, books,... in Latin, Dalmatian, Croatian and Italian language), as well as the sources written in Venice in Italian language and others. Giove uses that irredentismo page which is historical fake created by irredentists in Dalmatia in the second half of 19th century. The best of all is that even these Dalmatian irredentists were the mostly of Croatian roots, not Italian! I can wait a few days more, but not too long. Cheers.Zenanarh 17:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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You're awesome!

 * Unexpected, but nice.... Thanks for the barnstar, and have a nice holiday in Ireland:) -- Dark Falls  talk 07:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)