User talk:Deepcruze

Referencing
referencing tool here:

Thanks. Deepcruze (talk) 12:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

August 2015
Hi there! Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.


 * Hi Deepcruze, Please ensure that you have the "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box ticked in your Preferences under Editing. It will warn you if you forget to enter an edit summary. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 22:02, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks fellow user. Deepcruze (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

NEED for help
can you help me by work on Navjit Buttar (Director) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arepunjabi (talk • contribs) 05:47, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I will sure help if this article is as per Wikipedia standards and guidelines. Deepcruze (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Hi Deepcruze, congratulations on finding good sources! I appreciate your latest edits. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 16:15, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks fellow user. Deepcruze (talk) 12:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Can you add please add secondary sources on Caste System in India ?
Hello Deepcruze! A user marked the above section as citing primary sources. See Can you please add secondary sources to this section? If you are able to do then please do it. Best regards, Terabar (talk) 10:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

@Terabar i think you are victim of casteist biasness of some of the Forward caste wikipedia contributors. But everyone must follow all wikipedia standards and guidelines. Deepcruze (talk) 12:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Star ratings
Hi there, re: this edit, star ratings have little value to the project, and very few articles under the scope of WikiProject Film incorporate these ratings. Note this article for instance. Critical response starts with critical aggregation totals (we don't have reliable sources for that in Indian cinema) but then the bulk of the content is prose. In part, this is because the ratings do not tell us anything specific and tend to only promote or demote a film without any context. As this is an encyclopedia, context is the only important thing. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:38, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for help. Deepcruze (talk) 12:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

October 2015
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I will stay away from edit war surely. Deepcruze (talk) 12:30, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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Sourcing
Please read WP:OVERCITE. You have a tendency to massively over-source simple statements of fact. It isn't necessary. - Sitush (talk) 15:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay. I will avoid over sourcing where there is not necessary Deepcruze (talk) 12:32, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Need your help sir
Hello, Sir I want your help in the creation of a new page for a construction company.Sir I read all the instructions and followed same but the created page was deleted so sir can u pls help me in the creation of the page.Recwiki (talk) 10:47, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Recwiki (talk) 10:46, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Sure i will help. Explain futher please. Deepcruze (talk) 12:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Regarding article publishing
Sir Can you please help me to publish this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bahujan_Samaj_Party_Madhya_Pradesh_Unit Gauravsingh14 (talk) 21:13, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Gauravsingh14 (talk) 21:13, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

@Gauravsingh14 i think you are victim of casteist biasness of some of the Forward caste wikipedia contributors. But everyone must follow all wikipedia standards and guidelines. Deepcruze (talk) 12:35, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Deepcruze. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
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 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. &#x222F; WBG converse 14:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I never had an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia. I follow each and every Wikipedia standards and guidelines. Deepcruze (talk) 12:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Sigh
How was this useful? Have you read WP:OVERCITE yet? I've just reverted it because there is no way anyone is likely to trawl through that many citations, nor should there be any need to do so. The list of past presidents seemed pointless and you included redlinks in the See also section, as well as citations there that should never exist. It seems that you are not learning. - Sitush (talk) 17:48, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Be careful these days. Some of our overlords have opined that even if an user is continually committing errors, it must not be the same editor to repeatedly point them out lest they feel harassed. :3 &#x222F; WBG converse 17:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * They have? Is this related to the Fram debacle? Do I care? - Sitush (talk) 07:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Noting
that it is formally required to communicate with others, in case of disagreements. The way you are editing, it won't take long for you to end up blocked. &#x222F; WBG converse 18:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I've been looking at your contributions and your lack of engagement with other editors. Since you were given a discretionary sanctions alert last September, I'm quite confident you're aware of the requirements for editing articles in the area of social groups, explicitly including caste associations and political parties, related to India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal. I believe you are falling short of those standards, so I'm seriously considering issuing you with a topic ban from those pages. Before I take any action, I'd like to give you the opportunity to give your view on that potential sanction. As I'm aware that I'm not the only uninvolved admin scrutinising your contributions, I'd strongly advise you to engage with this thread, before another admin decides to sanction you, which they may do at any time. --RexxS (talk) 23:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Deepcruze, are you going to respond rather than just carry on editing? Your latest - here - is poor given that everything else is cited to academic works. - Sitush (talk) 07:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * In fact, I've just reverted Caste system in India to its state prior to your involvement last month. You have been overciting again and using sensationalised/non-expert etc news sources to support claims for which a vast library of academic literature exists. Worse, you were using at least one of those news reports to support a claim concerning the Gupta Empire that has originated from study results announced recently by a team of four geneticists when it has long been accepted on Wikipedia that using such studies even directly (let alone through a prism of mainstream, non-specialist journalism) is dubious at best. Quite how four geneticists can overturn the long-held thoughts of countless other experts needs to be assessed, ie: we need to give the academic community time to review the implications of their claims. Yes, it could be a Gallileo moment but it is more likely to be poor science - that's how it usually works. - Sitush (talk) 07:31, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Did they even publish their research somewhere? [The institute is not at all reputed, FWIW.] &#x222F; WBG converse 05:17, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't look deeper than the cited news article, but I have now and see that the geneticists are/were from the National Institute of Biomedical Genomics. The PR blurb for the lead scientist mentions no publications, which is odd for a potted biography of an academic on an official institution page. However, I suspect this is the research being referred to - the follow-up letters make for an interesting critique! - Sitush (talk) 17:01, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not manage to find the paper; thanks! Will read ...
 * Knew that NIBG was behind it; that's an institute which have often indulged in dubious projects of questionable scholarly merit and a couple of years back, seemed more interested in pandering to a part. brand of pseudo-historical narrative. Will try to develop the article :-) &#x222F; WBG converse 18:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Knew that NIBG was behind it; that's an institute which have often indulged in dubious projects of questionable scholarly merit and a couple of years back, seemed more interested in pandering to a part. brand of pseudo-historical narrative. Will try to develop the article :-) &#x222F; WBG converse 18:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

NIBG is threat to neutrality on Wikipedia. Its a propaganda tool by some fake historians. Deepcruze (talk) 12:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Please note these discretionary sanctions
I don't think that Deepcruze has any plans to stop using Wikipedia as a platform for their political soapboxing. His history shows that he is completely unresponsive to any concerns raised on this talk page or elsewhere.

Now he has just created an emotional article where information is not supported by the sources. See Vandalism of Ambedkar statues, which starts with "Deliberate vandalism of B. R. Ambedkar statues has been happening in India by the caste supremacists till present day since late 1980 assertion by dalits." But I don't see a mention of a "supremacist" or "caste supremacist" anywhere on sources.

Then other sentence claims Ambedkar to be "most revered figure in India" while only one source say "he was also a revered civil rights leader". The article ultimately ends with the claim that "Vandalism of Ambedkar statues is punishable offence under sections 295A (deliberate and malicious acts intending to outrage religious feelings of any class) and 427 (mischief causing damage) of IPC", thus providing a false impression that "vandalism of Ambdekar statues" has been made illegal when the source talks about any vandalism of statues to be a punishable act. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 02:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

@Bishonen: Vandalism of Ambedkar statues is well sourced article and a genuine issue in India for about every social equality loving Indian. It is incident that is deliberate. Words like "supremacist" or "caste supremacist" can be corrected which doesn't means all of the article is false. All mistakes in article can be rectified. But totally deleting article content by @Aman Kumar Goel shows the biasness towards issue same as a White supremacist shows towards a African-American issue. Deepcruze (talk) 12:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Punjabi Parchar TV


Hello, Deepcruze. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Punjabi Parchar TV".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 12:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Not learning
You have again added a bunch of unsourced material (at List of Dalits today) and used poor sources (such as the dalit pressure group called Round Table India at Shanti Swaroop Baudh today). Your mission to counter what you have said above is systemic bias has been incredibly disruptive over many years because you seem unwilling to stop, think and listen to advice etc. You seem to be in a rush to promote dalit-centric stuff & you're leaving it to saps like me to clean up swathes of poor content. I, for one, have had enough - it is going to take me weeks to go through your efforts and fix it. I see that at least two admins have had a word with you above, so pinging for further consideratipn. - Sitush (talk) 15:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I added Sukhadeo Thorat to List of Dalits today and he is a dalit which is a fact. As wikipedia is an open source community, please must try free up bias before deleting Sukhadeo Thorat's name from List of Dalits. Round Table India is not a 'pressure group' but a credible source of news and alternative media portal run by those ignored by mainstream media of India. I am never in rush, i am very slow in article creation for worldwide wikipedia community and for greater good of mankind.


 * You are demonstrating potential difficulties even in your reply now. If you cannot understand why a "news portal" operated by activists is a poor source, despite your time here, then that is a problem. And it is no good coming here with some evangelical mission but ignoring basic policies such as WP:V. You come across as a warrior and that is not a good position from which to edit neutrally. Note that I did not trim the list of purported dalits because they most certainly are not dalits but rather because there were no sources oresent to verify that they are. I have referred you to User:Sitush/Common before, so this should not be news to you. - Sitush (talk) 20:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Deepcruze, when you make edits like this, you are adding unsourced material to an article that you know will be controversial. You're aware that these topics are subject to discretionary sanctions and that you have to be on exceptionally good behaviour when editing them, so why try to push the boundaries? I see that you've also twice avoided answering the question about whether you removed a speedy deletion template while logged out. Did you?
 * Please understand that I'm seriously considering whether the best course for the encyclopedia would be to topic-ban you entirely from edits that concern Dalits. If you can't learn to supply quality sources, then I don't think we can keep asking the same one or two experienced editors to clean up after you. Please try asking if you're unsure, before editing based on unsatisfactory sources. --RexxS (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please understand that I'm seriously considering whether the best course for the encyclopedia would be to topic-ban you entirely from edits that concern Dalits. If you can't learn to supply quality sources, then I don't think we can keep asking the same one or two experienced editors to clean up after you. Please try asking if you're unsure, before editing based on unsatisfactory sources. --RexxS (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I have source for this edit. In future i will cite sources to all my edits. Deepcruze (talk) 21:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What was the source? Please try to understand that it's not sufficient to add just any old source to support your edits; you must supply a source that is generally accepted as reliable. Did you not understand what I wrote about asking if you're unsure? --RexxS (talk) 21:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * So you have again restored this Vandalism of Ambedkar statues without following WP:BRD first. Can you tell how "till present day since late 1980 assertion by dalits." has been supported by any of the 8 sources you have bombed in violation of WP:OVERREF? Though I am seeing misrepresentation all over the article, I am still trying to verify the very first sentence of the article. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 22:56, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That Vandalism article is classic Deepcruze, which usually includes synthesis and original research, overciting, overlinking, POV, use of non-RS including Round Table India, op-eds, misrepresentations etc ... I could go on. This has been going on for years and you only ever pay lip-service to any advice or warnings you are given. You really need to stop creating articles for a while, stop working on Dalit stuff for a while, and spread out your efforts so you can better understand how it should be done through genuine on-article interaction with other editors. - Sitush (talk) 01:55, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I suggest you read my edit summaries at the Vandalism article & also its talk page. Every time I come across an article you have edited, I have to attempt masses of fixes and they are for pretty much the same reasons. I could probably research & write some of your articles quicker than I can fix the things. If there is anything you do not understand then ask; do similar poor stuff again & you're likely to face sanctions. - Sitush (talk) 03:44, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything has changed for years about this user. See his another recent creation Dalit Lives Matter, which was treated as a hoax on the AfD. Capitals00 (talk) 07:17, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You are right about lack of improvement, and the Vandalism article is a coatrack like many others. But I have never yet found an admin who is prepared to push the button. Archives to this page should show others doing as RexxS & Bish have done recently but I think there is perhaps a reluctance to issue more than stern words because of the potential poor optics relating to systemic bias. I've seen similar things in another topic area in the past & anything more than a warning brings out the SJW types in defence, which makes it a nightmare od discussion to justify an action that should be obvious. I can understand but it is frustrating. - Sitush (talk) 10:44, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rajendra Prasad Singh


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June 2020
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for being a net negative to the encyclopedia. Please see the section above. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Bishonen &#124; tålk 11:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * You have been active for at least five years and haven't learned a thing about neutrality etc. As recently as February this year, you created Dalit businesses. It was full of gross misrepresentations of the sources. Even by your poor standards, this one is a shocker. You cannot plead "I am still learning" when you have made so many edits. - Sitush (talk) 14:44, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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Please unblock

 * Question from the blocking admin: By what channels have you been learning from these successful Wikipedia volunteers? Please ask them to post here and confirm that you are, in their opinion, now "able to follow all Wikipedia guidelines, rules and regulations as an improved person". Bishonen &#124; tålk 10:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC).


 * Dear Bishonen, from past few months i have followed your contributions to learn and also used YouTube channels of Wikipedia volunteers for understand Wikipedia community with examples and  including using Google Search extensively for leaning about Wikipedia. I am not personally in communication with Wikipedia volunteers so i have no ways to ask them to post here and confirm that now i am able to follow all Wikipedia guidelines, rules and regulations as an improved person. But if you unblock me today i can satisfy you with my future activities that i am improved person and by following your footsteps i will contribute positively to Wikipedia community. I am assuring you that you will appreciate me in future for my contributions and you will never regret my unblocking. Deepcruze (talk) 11:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. I misunderstood; I thought you meant you had received personal tuition. I honestly don't think you can learn very much by following my editing; for one thing, I'm an admin, and much of what I do is related to that. No, I'm afraid I won't unblock you, I'll leave it to the uninvolved admin who will come here to review your request. To that admin: if you think so, I suppose you might care to put up the request at AN for community review. Bishonen &#124; tålk 11:56, 25 January 2022 (UTC).
 * Thank you Dear Bishonen, i hope i will be unblocked by uninvolved admin soon. Can't wait to positively contribute to Wikipedia community! Deepcruze (talk) 12:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your hypocrisy is depressing. Bishonen &#124; tålk 13:01, 25 January 2022 (UTC).

is closed. WP:COMPROMISED. Referred to T&S. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 06:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey! -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 06:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I typed up a comment of some sharpness, Deepfriedokra, but why grave-dance. This account ain't never coming back. Why T&S? Reply by mail if you prefer. Bishonen &#124; tålk 09:29, 10 April 2022 (UTC).
 * Compromised. Just an FYI. -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 11:37, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

2022 Appeal

 * Deepcruze had pinged me. I am not an admin. Only admins can decide on your appeals for unblock. --Venkat TL (talk) 13:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Deepcruze, you repeat word for word what you said in January.: "from past few months i am taking help in getting educated and also learning about Wikipedia guidelines from successful Wikipedia volunteers. As of today i am able to follow all Wikipedia guidelines, rules and regulations as a improved person and proud Wikipedia community member." You are completely wasting the time of any and all responding admins. I am removing your talkpage access. I see above that you have already tried appealing via UTRS; you can still do that. Bishonen &#124; tålk 13:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC).

Nomination of Dalit businesses for deletion
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