User talk:Dentren/Archive 4

Piñera photo discussion move
✅ Pristino (talk) 01:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Images
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Nobel Prize
Hello! I am currently working on the "Swedish Project" and "Award and Prizes"'s article Nobel Prize. Since it is a top importance article and not even GA class I am trying to make it a GA article and perhaps further after that. However, I'm in a state now where I could use some help. I need a new pair (several pairs in fact) of eyes to look at the article and the talk page for improving prose, debation of different things and some sourcing. Do you got any possibility to help out? BR --Esuzu 12:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esuzu (talk • contribs)

AfD nomination of Chilean presidential election, 2013
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Unreferenced BLPs
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 * 1) Eduardo Morales Miranda -

Hello Dentren. Here's an invitation.
Dentren, you are hereby cordially invited to express your opinions and concerns in regards to User:Erebedhel in the following RFC article: Requests for comment/Erebedhel. This is not meant to influence your opinion in any particular way whatsoever. You are free to agree with my statement by adding your name in the "Users certifying the basis for this dispute", just as you are free to not agree and not sign anything. Moreover, you can also provide an outside view and provide more information in regards to your situation with Erebedhel or your simple views on the matter in regards to this editor. However, be reminded that this RFC will not continue unless it gets two signatures that certify the situation as a problem. Best regards.-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 01:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment
Hello Dentren I just wanted you to know that, as I told you before, I consider you a very valuable wikipedian. I was reading your comment on the RfC and I'll take into consideration your advice, regardless that on ANI Marshal was adviced not to continue with it because the case is already on formal mediation so it won't go anywhere else (besides some requisites weren't fulfilled during the 48 hours). However I believe that because of the lengthy threaded discussions of the past, my observations weren't clear and were mistaken with a false political view, which I found highly disappointing since the beginning because most of the anthropological studies that I have been studying over the past months were nullified by mixing them with politics. Perhaps you'd like to read some of them and compare them with the current sources in the article:


 * Max Harris
 * Jennifer Heath
 * Jordi Rius i Mercade from the Ball de diables board in Spain
 * Enrique Cuentas Ormachea pp-35-36
 * The 107 pages study in which the UNESCO declaration is based

And many more, I was always against using newspapers as sources and base my opinions on what I saw on TV when serious studies are available, I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. However our agreement was that I'd work on my workshop and MarshalN20 on his and wait till the mediator can have some time or in a couple of weeks we'd try to discuss things calmly on the talk page with two versions available. Of course you're invited to follow the development of the events. Best regards.  Erebedhel  -  Talk  07:07, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Little Ice Age
Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed is on article probation. -- TS 19:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Cheers
--Jor70 (talk) 00:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Jorge Quinteros (mountaineer)
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Sopaipilla
Dentren, I will do my best to find sources in regards to the Sopaipilla in South America. I have never eaten one, but the food looks tasty enough to defend. Also, if you happen to have some free time, perhaps you might be interested in providing a bit of your opinion on this discussion regarding the Diablada (Yes, I still can't believe there's still an argument over the article):. I will now go on to the Sopaipilla research (I'm guessing my best bet is to find it in regards to Argentina and Chile?).-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 16:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I noticed that. They call it "cachangas," but I found a description calling it "fried bread." They apparently add cinnamon to it.-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 16:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Flaite

 * Left you a message here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flaite#Ownership. --Soy Rebelde (talk) 16:07, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Que tal Dentren. ¿Me pudieses explicar porque consideras un reportaje de Chilevision como una referencia dudosa; específicamente http://www.chilevision.cl/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=229645&Itemid=81? ¿O será que lo que te incomoda es la declaración que soporta? Gracias y saludos, --Soy Rebelde (talk) 16:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Chile shakes to the 8.8!
I'm sure you've heard of the recent terrible news. I hope none of your family members (or yourself) were hurt in the accident, which I heard was 50 times stronger than the earthquake in Haiti. Sincerely,-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 15:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Espero que tanto vos como familia esten bien. fuerte abrazo --Jor70 (talk) 00:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

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Puyehue-Cordón Caulle review
I am stuck at home sick this weekend, so (looking on the bright side) I now have time to review the article! I have started with the lede.

I believe that you are Chilean (or at least that your first language is Spanish). The article looks good as far as content, and the writing is generally good, but I've come across some things that might be lost in translation. I read Spanish reasonably well, so I wanted to let you know that you can feel free to explain what you were trying to say in these cases in Spanish. I have the advantage of being a native English speaker, so as long as my Spanish holds up, I should be able to parse it well in English.

Awickert (talk) 22:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. I wil write in spanish if its nessesary or give the quotes of scientific publications cited in the article. Dentren  |  Ta lk  22:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK - great. I should have access to most scientific articles anyway, but I could definitely be missing some. Awickert (talk) 18:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Armando or Amando
Hi Dentren,

There is person-related article titled Rodolfo Armando Philippi, but if you take a look at Harvard Herbarium's Botanist Index, and also IPNI's botanist search engine, the middle name of the individual under the standard botanist abbreviation for Phil. is "Amando". Neither database calles him Armando anywhere on their respective pages. I wanted to move it over to Rodolfo Amando Philippi, but noticed that that's already a redir to "Armando" (which could be merely because the former is a common misspelling). The article has been around for a long time, with many other-language wikis attached to it, so I thought it best to leave it alone until I learned more. Do you know if this name is acceptable, and could the above databases be inaccurate? Judging from the fact that you've added some biographical information to the article in question, and the Chile-related articles you're associated with here on this talk page, it seems you're the right person to consult for this. I'll watch here for a reply. Thanks, Hamamelis (talk) 04:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I would guess that the name "Armando" was put there by a Spanish speaking user since Armando is much more common in Spanish than Amando. After looking around in the websites like "Memoria chilena" and "Revista chilena de historia natural" Amando seems to be the correct second name. A move request should be done. Dentren  |  Ta lk  15:57, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, The move has been requested. Hamamelis (talk) 23:21, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, looks like we both reqed the move. Oh well, hopefully it will just get the grease more swiftly! Hamamelis (talk) 23:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I moved the page as requested at WP:RM but just wanted you both to know that any autoconfirmed editor can move a page over a redirect if there has been only one edit at the redirect. It's only when there are two or more edits that an admin has to get involved. Just for future reference. Best, Station1 (talk) 00:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

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Maritime Fur Trade
Hi, I noticed you added a globalize tag to the Maritime Fur Trade page. I don't understand what is needed though. The page seems quite global already. If you could explain what you feel is missing on its talk page it would help. Thanks. Pfly (talk) 18:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. But as the page points out in the first sentence, "The Maritime Fur Trade was a ship-based fur trade system that focused on acquiring furs of sea otters and other animals from the indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast and natives of Alaska." Later in the lead it says "The term "maritime fur trade" was coined by historians to distinguish the coastal, ship-based fur trade from the continental, land-based fur trade [of North America]". There are plenty of sources that define "Maritime Fur Trade" this way, and are used on the page. In fact, that is why I capitalized the term, instead of naming the page "maritime fur trade" (although I sometimes wrote the term in lower case--if it would make more sense to always use caps that can be done). It's a proper noun about a specific historic era in a specific region. Also, the page describes the non-Anglosphere aspects of the trade--in China and Russia mainly--in detail. Pfly (talk) 19:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I will copy this post in the talk page of the article so the discussion remains open. Dentren  |  Ta lk  19:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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Bienvenido!
Glad you are back after the earthquake. Can you keep an eye at Argentina–Chile relations please ? a user is trying to change it --Jor70 (talk) 11:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Dentren, yes, I am trying to improve the article. Please take a look to my contibution in the talk page. Thank you. --Keysanger 16:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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User:Awickert and User:FT2 recently removed user pages from this category. Thanks for your consideration. --Fartherred (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC) altered--Fartherred (talk) 16:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Anti-Chilean sentiment


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Edit summaries
Hello my friend on the other side of the world. Sorry to bother you, but would you be so kind as to use edit summaries more often? Thank you so much and happy editing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You are right, I often forget to do that. I will improve. Dentren  |  Ta lk  21:54, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Globalization template on Mountain Hut
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Article name
I would appreciate your opinion about my proposal in Talk:Peruvian_ironclad_Huáscar. Best regards, --Keysanger 17:43, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

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An image better than no image?
I saw you have removed from images from articles on regions of Chile. Even if an image isn't "representative", isn't some image better than no image at all? Jason Quinn (talk) 22:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * 1. having a spectacular Andean landscape in the infobox of each region does not give the used the information he is searching for, which are quick facts and at most a collage of urban and rural landscapes.


 * 2. From an aesthetic point of view these lanscape images gives an amateurish self-promotianal touristy look to the page. We should be aware that wikipedia is sometimes used by companies or isolated users to promote the atraxctives of their regions.


 * 3. Having these images on the geography section of each region would be a better idea.


 * Dentren |  Ta lk  08:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Would you agree or disagree that your changes are a matter of personal taste rather than policy or guidelines? The most relevant content guideline for photos seems to be Images. I admit I have not searched exhaustively for other pages that might support removal. If you know of them, please post links. The wording on "choice and placement" is rather loose &mdash; I'm sure that's on purpose &mdash; but I do not see any guidelines that directly supports removal for being "non-representative". Relevance is the more general concept. Certainly the removed photos are relevant. Representative, however, is a more stringent criteria. I understand your points of view listed above but I am not sure that removing them is the best option. I think the better option is to keep the photos and if and when "more representative" photos appear, switch to them. A photo almost always adds to an article in my opinion. Certainly the posters of the photos thought so too. Now it's a matter of which difference of opinion is more popular. Jason Quinn (talk) 16:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Would you agree on moving the images to a geography section of each article? The infobox is one of the most most important part of each each article, people use the infobox to get quick and reliable facts not to get an amazing view of a volcano. A volcano or mountain says very little about an administrative region dont you agree? Dentren  |  Ta lk  16:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I lean towards the position that having a picture is better than no picture. I think a picture helps grab and maintain the reader's attention and interest. I have not committed myself to that position. I understand your points. My contention is that a volcano or mountain is still part of that region &mdash; administrative or not &mdash; and gives the reader a zeroth-order understanding of the look and feel of that region. If and when a better photo appears in the Commons, that can replace a less representative photo. Jason Quinn (talk) 14:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

For handiness, some of the links relevant to this discussion are: Jason Quinn (talk) 14:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * [ Los Lagos Region diff]
 * [ Araucanía Region diff]