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Adoption
Hi Depthdiver. You seem to have gotten the hang of Wikipedia pretty well already (the above message is one to be proud of!) so I don't know how much you'd gain from adoption. However, I'm perfectly happy to take you on as an adoptee if you wish. Are there any particular areas you'd like to cover? Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  11:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Yunshui thanks for replying and the compliment :-) I'm definitely having fun and the help and policy pages are amazing. I love being part of this.  I thought I was on the right track but got worried cause i've found myself in a content dispute - not sure how to navigate it - I'd love to feel really grounded in policies and get advice on the interactional stuff - also more technical things, specifically how to upload images, and deal with copyright - layout like infoboxes and tables.  Thanks so much! Depthdiver (talk) 03:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, I can certainly help you with all of that. I take it that the content dispute is the discussion taking place at Talk:Process-oriented psychology? Your interactions there are pretty exemplary, as it happens - polite, well-reasoned arguments with a clear willingness to accommodate the other party's point of view. However, it does look as though the two of you are now starting to go round in circles a bit - I would suggest that (after checking that Felicitatious is comfortable with the idea) you request a third opinion so that you get get a fresh voice in on the discussion. I'd volunteer myself, but if I'm adopting you it might make me seem less than neutral, so it would be better to have someone completely uninvolved step in.
 * Learning about policies is really a case of seeing them in use - I could point you at the complete list but frankly, it's hard to take in that much information without seeing it applied. The only things you really need to read up on are the Five Pillars - every other policy and guideline is derived from these. For the rest, I'd recommend hanging out at areas like WP:AFD, WP:ANI (look but don't touch!), WP:VP and WP:DRN, all of which see extensive use of Wikiacronyms. If you see someone reference a string of caps there and don't know what they mean, click the link and learn! Note that there's a (somewhat false, and very nebulous) hierarchy of rules on Wikipedia; in rough order of how important they are, it usually goes: Five pillars, legal polices (e.g. WP:LICENSE), policies (e.g. WP:NPOV), guidelines (e.g. WP:N, information pages (e.g. WP:SR), Wikipedia essays (e.g. WP:EIGHT), user essays (e.g. User:Bahamut0013/deletion). The Manual of Style is about equivalent to a guideline, though it doesn't really fall in the same category. As a rule of thumb, the higher up this chain you can appeal, the more weight your position will tend to be given (so quoting a policy in support of your argument holds more water than quoting an essay). In practice it doesn't quite work like that, but it's something to bear in mind.
 * My usual approach with adoptees is to run them through my Adoption school - you're welcome to work through it if you wish, but some of it will be pitched far below your level (you could ignore the Cleanup and References sections entirely, for example). Instead, here's a more specific first task for you: upload an image and display it in your sandbox. You'll need to do the following:
 * Find a suitable image. You will need to make sure that it meets the Image use policy, specifically regarding its copyright status. For this exercise, I'd suggest using a picture that you have taken yourself, which will avoid any copyright complications.
 * Upload the picture using the File Upload Wizard (if it's a picture you took yourself, upload it to Wikipedia's sister project, Wikimedia Commons, using the Commons Wizard]). You will need to license the image appropriately, but the Wizard will guide you through this.
 * Add the image to your sandbox - see User:Yunshui/Images for beginners for instructions.
 * Good luck - if you run into any trouble, let me know. Oh, and consider yourself adopted, by the way. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  09:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Yunshui - so helpful, glad to know I'm doing ok on the interactions and the third opinion thing is perfect - I had a sense there were things to do like that but wasn't sure. Appreciate your mapping out of the policies - I really admire the incredible depth of all the discussions and guidelines but it is a lot as you say, and great to have a personal tourguide! Thank you for adopting me - and I understand you must be busy.  Excellent about the photo task - will get into it!
 * Also - some dumb questions when you have a minute, about Talk - user talk vs Page talk and also whose Talk page to talk on? there seems to be an etiquette about it - and e.g. do I need to add your username in this message to alert you about it? - or just write back at the place the person left a comment? etc. You know, I bet there is going to be an essay on this ... (!) thanks again, Depthdiver (talk) 19:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * There isn't actually any concrete guideline on where to reply to messages. Some users, like myself, prefer to keep conversations in one place, and so will reply to messages wherever they're left - if you leave a message on my talkpage, I'll usually respond there; if you leave a message here, I'll respond here. The advantage of this approach is that it keeps the flow of the discussion in one place, making it easier to follow; the downside is that you either have to link the other person's username (as you've done here) or go to their talkpage and leave a template to let them know you've replied. Other users prefer to always respond on the recipient's talkpage, regardless of the original message location - this lets the user know immediately that you've replied to them, but doesn't necessarily make it clear what you're replying to.
 * The only hard and fast rules with talk (inasmuch as Wikipedia has "hard and fast rules") are to reply at the bottom of the thread where possible, to use indents in order to make it clear which comment you're replying to, and to avoid breaking up others' comments by replying in the middle of them. Stick with that, and you're golden. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  08:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * (Oh, and if you want some essays, try Wp:TPTHREAD and WP:Talk page formatting). Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  08:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks!!! Depthdiver (talk) 18:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Yunshui Image uploading worked out perfectly, i think! - Image practice, thanks for the tips - i played around with size and image placement. The copyright stuff takes getting used to- I'll do more reading on using other people's images.  Overall, though am feeling quite impressed with myself :-) I might add it to my user page also.  My next question is about infoboxes and I just found your tips at the adoption school so will follow those and ask if I get stuck. Thanks again Depthdiver (talk) 00:06, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice pic! Looks like you got the hang of that with no trouble. Copyright does indeed take some experience - the rule of thumb is: if you didn't create it, you need to make sure it's free. If you want some practice, pull the copyright section from my adoption school and have a go at the questions there (just stick it in a subpage of your userspace); I'd be happy to check your answers for you.
 * With infoboxes, the thing to keep in mind is that they don't all work in exactly the same way (the image formatting, in particular, isn't very well standardised). You can mess about with them all you like in drafts, but in mainspace, the preview function is your friend... Drop me a line if you get stuck. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  08:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Just spreading the word.
I got the wikification drive for the month started, the other day. Would have had it up sooner if I'd realized it hadn't been started, but at least it's up now. :) Okay folks, say it with me: 1 for the money, 2 for the - the - okay, just let me read the script again first... (talk) 04:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Just checking in
My old boss used to call it "touching base"... "Can I just touch base with you on this?" "No thanks, sir, that sounds a bit depraved..." Anyway, I realise I haven't been in touch for a while, so thought I'd look in on you and see if there's anything you need help with (and in passing, congratulate you on Arnold Mindell, which has shaped up very nicely). Let me know if there's anything I can do for you. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  14:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking in Yunshui, and for making me chuckle! Doing pretty good, dropped away a bit for life reasons but I discovered de-orphaning and I think I really like it, realising it can be both a quick fix and also a deeper, more challenging art of building the WP web.  Any tips on that?  Thanks for feedback on the article - glad I'm getting the idea - enjoyed getting my teeth into some more research, and now kinda chilling back with wikifying ... i love all the variety of how you can contribute.  The content dispute that worried me kinda stalled cause my editing partner didn't reply yet, so the other day i started chipping away at stuff - trying to incorporate both viewpoints best i can.  Figured I should just get on with it.  Am I on the right track there?  I guess that the in and out of editors is part of the WP scene?   Makes me think - I'd love to see a live map of WP and track where the action is at a given time ... Thanks again!  Depthdiver (talk) 20:53, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My favourite trick for de-orphaning, which you may of may not already know, is the tilde search - just enter the name of the article you're trying to de-orphan into the search bar with a single tilde (~) in front. This will bring up all mentions of that title, rather than just taking you straight to the article itself, thus showing you a list of pages from which you can create links.
 * Since Felicitatious hasn't edited for more than a month, I think you can probably go ahead with your proposed changes; they don't seem too controversial to me. If anyone else objects, you can always go back to discussion.
 * I don't know of any maps, but some of the database reports (such as Database reports/WikiProjects by changes) can give you an idea of where Wikipedia activity is most concentrated, and The Signpost has a regular traffic report showing the site's most edited articles - that might be of interest. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  09:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for the advice and ideas - and no, I didn't know about the tilde trick. Nifty! Depthdiver (talk) 18:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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