User talk:Destroyeraa/Archive 3

Hi there
Destroyeraa,

I came to your page originally to thank you for the turkey. When I saw the block due to confirmed sockpuppetry, I couldn't believe it. Needless to say, I was very shocked. I can see that you've learned the consequences of what you did. I also see that WP has given you a second chance, and I'm glad about that. It's hard, but hopefully someday you can regain trust in this community. I hope that you have learned from this, and I'll try to keep in touch. Please don't do this again. 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 04:24, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the same goes for me...or most of it. I went to my watchlist and found, well, this block. I, too, was taken aback. I still believe that you can be a better user, Destroyeraa; I have faith in you. Just remember, as the other editors have said, try not to slip up again. Tfess up?or down? 04:30, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support. I will not slip up again, and I will do my best to regain trust. Thanks for still having faith in me. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have enough faith that I believe you should request a 2nd unblock. Be careful. You weren't abusive enough so, given a few days, you can request a second unblock. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 16:53, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I will be unblocked in 5 days. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:22, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you may want to be unblocked earlier. Many users request unblock for short blocks. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 17:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Nah, I already talked out of an indef block because I only made 1 sock - but the chance of getting unblocked right now is really low, considering the admins' comments above. Thanks though. Also, I allow and encourage you to help with the review with Typhoon Ruby 1964. You can do the preps and impact section. Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:03, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I think you have learned your lesson, but I wouldn't risk asking for another unblock. You've already gotten it shortened by a lot, just do your time in WP:SOCK jail and then get a clean start. Just to try to stay on everyone's good side instead of trying to push it, which may appear to some people like you don't care (even though I know you do!) 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 19:53, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I do and finish my sentence in Sock Jail (did you coin that?). I don't want to push it either, and plus, when consensus is found whether the community wants me an early release, my sentence would be either over or close to over. Also, I agree to 's comment of . Thank you CodingCyclone for having faith in me. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did coin that (lol). I have faith in you because I know that you don't mean to harm WP in any way. I know that you'll be ~super-duper extra careful~ from now on. Just carry on from this and build your reputation back up! I have faith in you! 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 20:09, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I’ll help if I can. I’m busy doing a CVUA training. (And am not doing so well....) I find it unlikely that you will be unblocked, but it’s always worth a try. Maybe ask them to put it up to WP: AN for community input. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 19:07, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Additionally, a noreaster is coming through my area so I may lose power :(. It is also absorbing Invest 99L so it won't be Kappa. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is worth a try as I think has been lucky.Jason Rees (talk) 19:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree. The community does not always take kindly to perceived time-wasting. Destroyeraa is willing to accept responsibility for his actions. Let him. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:27, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Should a sock tag be added in the form of because user is not indefinetly blocked, but temporarily blocked and shows they are a sockmaster, or just  in general? --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * From what I see from other sockmasters, no. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 21:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


 * No. User: Dangled10 and User: CPHL(tag before they were indefinitely blocked). Also User: Leahmerone but the block expired. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * GeneralNotability removed the tag from the page. Ask them if they want to add it, but IMO Idk since I can’t edit my userpage. Anyway, my wiki experience from January probably isn’t as good as many other editors, no one welcomed me until Hink on June 5. However this is no excuse for my sock puppetry! Anyway, I had some discouraging dealings with some admins This is no excuse for sockpuppetry either and got yelled at by another user because I added an empty section. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No it isn't. Anyway, I believe there was an AN thread on it. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 23:31, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify the above comment? Anyway, I saw that you opened a tea house thread on it - good on you. You could also ask GeneralNotability about it. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 03:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Seriously man... What were you thinking?!? There was no way this was going to end well. You're lucky you got caught this early; a few more months, and you may have been stuck with an indef block. An ex-admin I had trusted took this a lot further, and now they've been forced into exile. At least a quarter to half of all LTAs were probably good-faith contributors who turned against the project for various reasons; please don't go in that direction. I'm not going to repeat what the others have said above, but I think that a break could help, though it's not required. Just to be clear, you can use alt accounts, but they need to be disclosed somewhere (even if only to a handful of editors - this being the case for a dedicated account operating in contentious or controversial topics), and definitely not used in the way you operated HurricaneJanor. I'm not sure if any of this had anything to do with the LTAs you've been dealing with, but you can't let them get to you. You just can't. I've dealt with numerous LTAs throughout my tenure here (including some very nasty trolls), but the worst thing you could possibly do would be to end up taking the same path they went down. I would also strongly suggest that you defer any additional requests for advanced user rights (outside of perhaps Autopatrolled rights) for at least 6 months following the end of your block. I know that many users have had their faith shaken in you on differing levels. Honestly, I still believe in you as an editor (despite the disappointing turn of events), since I do believe that you're here out of a genuine desire to build up the project. This has to be one of the nastiest surprises I've had in the past month. Please don't do this again. I do agree with the assessment that you're going to have to be a lot more careful going forward. Just go back to doing what you were previously (minus the socking), and you should be fine. It'll definitely take you some time to regain the lost trust with some of the other users, but this is an important learning experience. I believe you're a good person. You'll need to demonstrate that to the others once you're able to resume editing. Light and Dark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah...What was I thinking?!? I am very sorry I gave you such a shock with my sockpuppetry. I regret my actions and am very grateful for getting let out of an indef block. I dunno why I got into sockpuppetry - maybe to experiment or play games, but either way it was all very wrong. I will defer from user rights in the next 6 months and I received autopatrolled a few days before my block. I allowed another user to contest my rights, but an admin, checkuser, and oversight ultimately refused to remove my rights. Thank you LightandDark2000 for believing in me, and I will return to promoting articles to GA and FA. Thanks again. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * first of all, Edgar181 is now globally locked. (And I will update his userpage to reflect that). Second of all, he abused multiple accounts to vote 7 times in the ArbCom 2019 elections. I don't think destroyeraa would have been stuck with an indef, but the block may have been commuted to less.
 * TB refused to revoke your PMV rights, but maybe if whoever gave you PCR, might revoke those. Additionally, you extremely rarely use PCR, so I have WP: HAT concerns. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 19:30, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Destroyeraa: Yeah, don't do that again. This is what got IPhonehurricane95 indeffed, but instead of accepting the block and reforming, he quickly embraced his vandalism and went on to harass a bunch of other users (now, every time that "UAK" idiot shows his face again, I get flashbacks to IPH95's multi-year vandalism campaign). You're probably familiar with some of the other LTAs on this site, including a few who have recently vandalized WPTC articles or who have been imitated by others. At least you didn't vandalize, I think. That's far worse than simple "dumb sockpuppetry", contrary to what HurricaneTracker495 said. As I've said earlier, don't do this ever again; go back to doing the contructive work that you were doing previously and you should be fine.  I personally don't have any concerns with PCR rights here (PMV are a much more heavy-weight permission, in my opinion, as well as Rollbacker, which Destroyeraa doesn't have). I would personally refrain from taking action to have that permission revoked. If any of the admins here wanted to revoke those rights, they could easily have done so already. And I know that Destroyeraa didn't do anything close to the magnitude of what Edgar181 did. But I mentioned him to make a point. If the socking had gone on for longer or reached greater extents of abuse, the block probably would have been left as an indef.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 19:34, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * IPh95 created his socks per WP: GHBH, and then tried to game his way to rollback. He insulted users on his sockpuppet accounts. Also, UAK and IPh95 are different, and I'm assuming so is Lightning Sabre. Some CU comments would come in useful.--HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weather disaster. Yeah, I'm really ashamed of my dumb sockpuppetry, and I think someone whould create WP:DUMBSOCK. I know IPH95, including them trying to kill their dog to get unblocked. PCR will come into use sometimes when reverting vandalism, and as LightandDark said, I haven't vandalized. However, if you really want to revoke the right, feel free ask an admin to revoke it. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:43, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * IPH95 created his socks primarily for 2 reasons: 1) To game the system to obtain rollbacker, and eventually, admin privileges; 2) Because he was "bored" (basically, just for fun). As one of the WPTC editors who has witnessed his vandalism live and been on the receiving end of his personal attacks, I know this LTA quite well. His unblock request went far beyond threatening to kill his dog, BTW. (Let's see, threatening other editors, threatening to "kill all Japs on Earth", pages of graphic 9/11 images, ranting about how he hated a bunch of users who had reverted or blocked him & how he hated nearly every ethnicity on Earth, etc.) Pretty much every active WPTC editor who was around in 2013–2014 remembers IPH95, along with almost every single administrator or CheckUser who has ever blocked him (quite a lot). And the earliest UnderArmourKid accounts were all his. I know this based on a number of reasons (which I won't disclose here at this time), but Lightning Sabre is an unrelated LTA who picked up on IPH95's 9/11 imagery and tropical cyclone vandalism in Summer 2014 and decided to be a copycat vandal. He hasn't stopped since then. Ironically, Lightning Sabre used to be a good faith editor on tornado and tropical cyclone articles. But he had increasing content dispute issues, and he eventually turned to vandalism in December 2013, so this is another example of a good editor gone bad. BTW, there's no point in trying to get the rights revoked at this point. I don't see how anything good will come out of such a request. Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 19:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not too familiar, but I do know Yamla had some experiences with the vandal in 2016, when she got into requesting unblock. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 19:57, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't worry it's a matter of few days then you'll be unblocked. Dam222 🌋 (talk) 19:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I can assure you that every single senior editor active on WPTC when IPH95 was around – as well as a large portion of the admins & CU team – are all very familiar with this LTA. This is one of the small handful of LTAs who made things personal for me. I mentioned these LTAs to make a point. I know that Destroyeraa is far better than those scum, but it's good to provide some examples of what happens if you let yourself go down the dark path. Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:02, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I knew you were just mentioning some example, and not saying that I was like them. They did some really bad sockpuppetry. IP95 seems really bad, even worse than that Wyatt dude. Wyatt actually used to be a constructive editor part of WPTC, and even gained PCR rights. I dunno what happened to him. Btw, LightandDark, I saw that you were blocked 1 month in 2015 for edit warring. You used to be very interested in wars in the Middle East (if I'm correct), but those articles are always controversial, and I refrain from editing 1RR articles. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 20:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * To be honest, IPH95 was the worst LTA to ever disgrace WPTC. "UAK" (Lightning Sabre) and the other newer LTAs don't even come close. (Some LTAs of even greater severity have occasionally dropped by, but tropical cyclone articles were never their main target.) I can say that with certainty from my experience. If he came back, the tropical cyclone pages would be in a real mess, and you would probably see a lot more page protections and targeted personal attacks. Unfortunately, I've had the displeasure of dealing with LTAs who are far worse than even IPH95. Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

When was the last IP95 attack? I hope they never come back. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 20:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep, regarding that, I've had some anger issues of my own, as well as gripes with editors who I saw as pushing their own agendas or plunking in inaccurate information. But I've matured significantly since then. Mideast topics and wars are definitely a subject of interest for me, in addition to other scientific topics. But WPTC has kind of always been my home WikiProject. I think that IPH95 was last active in 2018. He seems to have disappeared after he got more into college coursework (probably when he started upper division classes). There's no guarantee that he won't be back (though that is my hope). But that isn't stopping his imitators from picking up where he left off. Thank God none of them are anywhere close to becoming as adept at disruption as he was (though "UAK" is getting closer). Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:18, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * then is Perseus, Son of Zeus to deal with. Likely IPh95 has some connection to them. This is getting more confusing the more I think about it . --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 20:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, Perseus, Son of Zeus is completely unrelated. That guy later came back as User:Cloudchased under the Standard Offer. IPH95 made some accounts that mentioned PSoZ (specifically, his Hurricanefan socks), but that's about as related as they are.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Do you have Discord? Because often sockpuppets and sockpuppetry is better to talk about off-wiki. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 21:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I know. Not right now, I don't.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 21:14, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Message to SMB99thx and Hurricanehink
I personally believe that the newsletter should be bi-monthly. However, it’s my plan to have a special holiday newsletter (New Year’s Day) to celebrate all the work we’ve done this year and the huge number of new members. Also, thanks for nominating Chris. I don’t want to be WP:OWNy and stuff, but I wanted to nominate Chris myself and was a bit taken back when I saw that you replaced it and re nominated it. However, I am happy for that. I will finish reviewing Ruby as soon as I get out of this block, and also eventually nominate Beryl 2018 for GA and Chris 2018 for FA. As said, Chris will need expansion in impacts such as coastal flooding, beach closures, rainfall amounts, rain, power outages, etc., as it is in the short side of articles. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 03:22, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want the special holiday newsletter, make sure that it is an annual report of what's happening around WikiProject Tropical Cyclones! By the way, enjoy our newest edition of the Hurricane Herald!  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  03:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There’s a typo in the storm summaries section after the work “Molave”. An extra ]. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 03:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for not slapping a longer block onto my account. Also, thanks for the advice and I am sure other users would also want your mentoring. I hope you get that leak issue in your apartment fixed soon, it sucks to have a leak. If it was a roof leak, then that will be bad considering the inches of rain and hail we received yesterday. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 03:22, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I suggest you don't remove other users' comments from your user page. Please assume good faith and work constructively with other users, even if you disagree with what they wrote on your talk page. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * the sole purpose of having tpa if you’re blocked is to contest it. Nothing else. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 17:28, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you please not ping me or get me involved in things not involving me? There was this guy that violated IRR, not sockpuppetry, and you want PCR revoked. So be it. I don’t care and I don’t go meddling with other people’s work. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, I need you to explain PCR to that guy. I want PCR revoked because he edit warred. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:17, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. I see no harm of having PCR revoked, though if the user has rollback, that should be removed immediately. Has the user misused PCR? You should get PCR btw. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:23, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe. And yes, Koavf does have both. I will copy what you said. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Zeta 2020
Hey dude you think that Zeta will be upgraded post analysis to a C3?
 * It's hard to tell, though aircraft recon supported minimal C3 winds. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 18:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Depends on whether there is enough evidence from recon supporting C3 winds. Qwerty   325  19:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If it is, we'll tie 2005 for most major hurricanes(cause I don't think we're getting another one). --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 21:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yup; I doubt a December major hurricane Qwerty   325  00:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, probably no... actually downgraded Zeta to 105 mph.  Hurricane   Covid  (contribs) 16:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Some person edited the 2020 Atlantic Hurricane Season Zeta to 105 mph but I reverted can you find that person? Doge1941 (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * They did because a post-season map from the NHC at https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/tws_atl_latest.gif because NHC revised wind speeds for the 2020 storms.
 * is right, the advisories still override the besttrack until the TCR arrives for each individual storm. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 18:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

thats preliminary tho Doge1941 (talk) 18:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Im reverting it Doge1941 (talk) 18:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. In addition,, The newly released summary shows Zeta at 110. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 18:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, great, let's use that then. Hurricane   Covid  (contribs) 18:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I believe they also changed Hanna to 85 mph I reverted that too. Doge1941 (talk) 18:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Should we use the Monthy Tropical Summary for now or wait till TCRs? Doge1941 (talk) 18:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * We use the monthly summaries first, though we use the TCR for the storms with an asterisk (*) on the monthly summary. Your edits were made in good faith, though please remember in the future to only use the monthly summaries and the NHC advisories. A new map will be made after all the TCRs are released.  A discussion to gain consensus isn't necessary, since it's now WP:SNOW to use the monthly summaries/advisories. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I realize that now, and I apologize for my disruptive edits. I’ll remember that for the 2021 season. -Shift674- (talk) 19:07, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's ok, everyone makes mistakes. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:12, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Looking forward to your unblock! -Shift674- (talk) 20:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Disclosure
To all: I really have a brother whose name is Kevin. He created the user with my help, and he wrote a disclosure on it. However, my brother soon left Wikipedia and turned to Hypothetical Hurricanes Wiki where he views the different season pages and helps with creating tracks for mine. Kevin has forgotten his password since then. Hurricane Kevin and I have never wrote on the same discussion. Thank you for inviting him, but he will not respond and I have forgotten the password too. If you have any queries about the account, please contact me here. Thank you all. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 20:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You can recover the password if you registered the account with an email address. But if you don't have that option, he can create a new account, but he'll have to disclose that he was originally Hurricane Kevin.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I meant to send this a few days ago, but forgetfulness got the best of me. Thanks for letting me know though, I removed the invite from his talk-page. 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  23:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

LitePoint
Hello, I saw your comment on the draft of the LitePoint page that the "products" section read like an advertisement. I've removed the products section and would love for you to take another look at the entry for publication. Thank you.

DJADave (talk) 00:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Since this user is blocked, you can take a look at another AfC reviewers.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  01:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The earliest I can review is four days. I took at a look at the draft and it looks much better! However, you need to re-submit the draft. If you want it published earlier, you should contact another AFC reviewer or just wait for an AFC reviewer to pick up the draft, as many look at new submissions and the old submissions unfortunately get piled up. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * You should apply for AFC reviewer. It has nothing to do with your English, which is quite good! Since you created any articles already about old typhoon and NIO cyclone seasons and storms, I'm sure you will be accepted and given the tools. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I applied for AFC reviewer just right now.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  01:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you gonna apply for NPR? --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 01:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  01:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You should have autopatrolled first though...it's easy to gain autopatrolled if you made 25 mainspace articles excluding redirects and disambigs. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 02:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I attempted that for the first time, it was failed. I'll try for the second time, though it's going to be hard since my articles are mostly stubs.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  02:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Tbh, some of the "articles" of the 25 were actually redirects that were converted into articles by other users. Anyway, stubs count and an article is still an article, whether it is a stub or an FA. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 02:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll go for autopatrolled later in time once I completed my series of articles I have created (old PTSs, decade articles, etc...)  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  14:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Chris (2018)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hurricane Chris (2018) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KN2731 -- KN2731 (talk) 05:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Chris (2018)
The article Hurricane Chris (2018) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Hurricane Chris (2018) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KN2731 -- KN2731 (talk) 10:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I see that KN has started the review. I am currently expanding Chris here, so many of the review I saw I is currently fixed / in the process of fixing. Since the sandbox has nearly 3+ bytes of prose/referencing, please copy-and-paste the sandbox into the article. Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Could you please check the article now?  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  13:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw! Thanks! I mostly expanded the impact while fixing some for the MH. You can do the rest of the fixes. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:53, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll do it on December 5.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  13:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * By the way, ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 14:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Chris originated from a frontal system that moved offshore the coast of the northeastern United States on July 2 - MH says June 29?
 * Link "received the name" to Tropical cyclone naming
 * I see the minimum pressure is mentioned in the lead, but not in the MH? And when did Chris reach peak intensity?
 * There is no indication that the first two sentences of the MH are relevant to the storm. Reading on, I see The remaining convection, or shower and thunderstorm activity, of the front and a new upper-level disturbance formed a surface low on July 4 - firstly, is the new upper-level disturbance the one that was mentioned earlier? Secondly, this should be mentioned earlier, rather than keep the reader guessing what the frontal system and upper-level disturbance have to do with Chris.
 * The TCR says this.
 * Despite being located over the Gulf Stream, the depression's convection diminished greatly - something like "Despite being located over the warm waters of the Gulf Stream" would make the relation between convection and the Gulf Stream more obvious to the non-expert reader.
 * Added a reason why the convection diminished greatly.
 * No need to abbreviate low-level circulation center if it's never used again.
 * Weak steering currents led Chris to stall - what caused the steering currents to be weak?
 * TCR doesn't say.
 * This caused the storm to acquire annular characteristics, while slowly strengthening - "This caused" implies that Chris taking on an annular appearance and strengthening slowly was a direct result of it stalling off the US East Coast, which I don't think is what is intended here.
 * The steering pattern around the storm was changing as a weakening mid-level ridge over the central Atlantic and a new trough over the northeastern United States began to accelerate the cyclone eastward. This seems to be a misuse of past continuous tense, as it shifts the sentence's focus onto the changing nature of the steering pattern, rather than on Chris.
 * Is "quicker" considered acceptable under en-US?
 * Located over the Gulf Stream, Chris proceeded to rapidly intensify - what was the difference from earlier that allowed for quicker intensification?
 * Link extratropical cyclone and Iceland in the MH.
 * More than 75 people had been rescued from Wrightsville Beach from July 4 to July 8 - "had been" → "were", and second "July" doesn't need to be there.
 * a Coastal Flood Advisory was issued for the Jersey Shore due to the threat of coastal flooding what else would a coastal flood advisory be issued for??
 * Environmental Canada should be "Environment Canada" IIRC.
 * Is Chris passed 383 mi (616 km) to the north supposed to be closest approach? Otherwise there's not much point putting the exact value. Besides, ref 30 says Chris was 357 mi WNW of Bermuda.
 * This isn't strictly relevant to the GA review since the GA criteria don't cover citation styles, but use of  and   in cite news should follow WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Style. Use of   versus   should also be consistent.
 * ✅ Fixed some of the cite webs.
 * Regarding this edit, the link is malformed and leads to 2012. I purposely removed the archive link because it was of Chris 2012, not Chris 2018. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 15:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Is Chris passed 383 mi (616 km) to the north supposed to be closest approach? Otherwise there's not much point putting the exact value. Besides, ref 30 says Chris was 357 mi WNW of Bermuda.
 * This isn't strictly relevant to the GA review since the GA criteria don't cover citation styles, but use of  and   in cite news should follow WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Style. Use of   versus   should also be consistent.
 * ✅ Fixed some of the cite webs.
 * Regarding this edit, the link is malformed and leads to 2012. I purposely removed the archive link because it was of Chris 2012, not Chris 2018. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 15:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding this edit, the link is malformed and leads to 2012. I purposely removed the archive link because it was of Chris 2012, not Chris 2018. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 15:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

This edit
This edit: in the hundreds of sockpuppets, I was talking about Wyatt2049, not you. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wyatt didn't create hundreds of socks. that was User: IPhonehurricane95, who has 174 confirmed socks and many of them untagged. Worst vandal WPTC ever saw. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 14:33, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Why?
This is certainly a shocker man: a block for multiple accounts? Not attacking you or anything, but why did you do this?ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:24, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh wait. Nvm. I saw what happened in the history. Can't wait to have you back.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * may be worth seeing Sockpuppet investigations/Destroyeraa/Archive. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm...took you some time to figure it out. Anyway, I’m extremely sorry for creating a sock and using it. I did some really dumb things here, and I want to sincerely apologize for it. Thanks for still having faith in me. Also,, on the SPI there are 4 accounts suspected for socking, please not that only 1 is confirmed and I admit - . ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * DestroyeraaDestroyeraa was an acknowleged doppelendanger and there was one undisclosed one. However, could still be Destroyeraa-it was unblocked, but I don't fully trust it. In addition, how do we even know Destroyeraa has a brother? Still...I trust it. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * HurricaneKevin is unblocked, and I made a . I forgot to disclose the 3xDestroyeraa, but that had no edits and no abuse. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wait a second? Does that mean WP:COMPROMISED and WP:SHARED apply? --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, my account isn’t compromised. Nor is Kevin’s. Neither mine nor Kevin’s are shared. I created the account for him because he wanted to have an account after seeing the work I did to Isaias, Hanna, etc. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, HK had to immediately have a password change and you not know it. Additionally, hurricane kevin forgot his password so it's kinda a lost cause. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I honestly do not know Kevin’s password. He doesn’t know either, and the account hasn’t had any edits in the last two months. If you look through the history of his userpage, you can see his disclosure. Anyway, Kevin doesn’t know my accounts password since I change it every so often.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would believe that more without a multiple account abuse. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Sure,, trust is hard to regain when lost. However, please assume good faith and not gravedance on my talk page in the future. You aren't doing this now, but in the last few days you've asked for a witch hunt against me and also frivolously threatened to remove my talk page access while I was making small talk and wanting to help prevent harassment and vandalism on this wiki. Also, I've read your opinion piece, and I have to say that I'm not surprised that you think I may become a LTA. Let me say it once and for all - I have no plans to sock again, and I have fought against several notorious LTAs (Sidow, Message from God, etc.). I will greatly appreciate it if you assume good faith towards me when I come back. Thank you, and good night. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would have assumed good faith, but many users in this situation became LTAs, like Wyatt2049, and the worst one of all, iPhoneHurricane95. ~30% of our LTAs were once good faith contributors. And one thing LTAs can do is lie. I will assume good faith, but I’m nervous. Also please refactor ChessEric’s comment, thanks. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 01:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw that already. Anyway, I understand where you're coming Destroyeraa, but you have GOT to be more careful in the future. As someone who has constantly been in your corner, this hurts because I know that everything you've done on here has been productive and you have made significant contributions here. I know personally about deception and losing trust because I have problems with it myself, so I hope you understand me when I say you got some serious work to do when it comes to regaining that trust with others, which includes me. Oh and also, my Wikipedia time over the Thanksgiving holiday was extremely limited and when I was on, it was mostly with the now-completed Tornado outbreak sequence of May 14–June 1, 1962 and Tornadoes of 2020 articles since hurricane season was FINALLY ending. This was the first time I had checked up on you in awhile! LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Look at that shiny new article! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I am a bit curious though...how long was this investigation? The archive does not give a time frame. Also, I realized that for some odd reason, I had completely glossed over ALL the discussions about your block before I had opened this section. LOL! ChessEric (talk · contribs) 23:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * feel free to ask at User talk: Mz7 why the investigation was launched. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 15:27, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Smile!
Hello Destroyeraa, I know that you have been going through some rough patches lately, so here, I am giving you this:  Hello Destroyeraa, Weatherman27 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Cheers! ~ 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  23:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem! I hope this made your day a little better! Btw this is my 1000th edit! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  01:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes! Congrats on 1000 edits! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much as well! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  01:17, 4 December 2020 (UTC)


 * 🙂 smile Dam222 🌋 (talk) 07:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back
Destroyeraa, welcome back!  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  09:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Re: Public Apology for Sockpuppetry
Hey there, and welcome back to Wikipedia! Just ignore the non-good-faith-assuming hater s that insist that you'll be an LTA. Every case is different, and we shouldn't label an editor as a possible LTA just because many users in a similar situation become LTAs. Personally, I'm very faithful that this is an opportunity for you to learn more as an editor, and that you won't stray onto that dark and wicked path. Glad to have you back, and (me myself and I'm sure other editors are) looking forward to working with you in the future. Cheers, and happy holidays! -- Chlod (say hi!) 14:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I'm very grateful that you're here in the project and I really appreciate the work you do. Cheers, and happy holidays to you as well! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 15:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I hope Destroyeraa keeps his promise not to go on a rapid vandalism spree(unlike User: IPhonehurricane95) --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 17:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the welcome back, I guess. I'll say this again and I hope for the last time. I am not an LTA nor a vandal. thank you. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Please see the talk page for IPhoneHurricane95, and then you will understand why I can’t 100% trust you(then again, credit for you for not vandalizing on your socks). I hope you follow your promise, and don’t sock HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 17:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, ok. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you can't trust an editor, then keep that reservation to yourself instead of repeatedly and publicly casting borderline aspersions by insinuating that an editor will be follow the footsteps of an LTA. Chlod (say hi!) 17:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just to note, that's only because of this, has nothing to do with the editor. (Now, this is much worse, but....). I promise it has nothing to do with them, and would be the same for any user. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not getting that vibe from your messages. I'll continue further on your talk page to avoid further disruption on Destroyeraa's talk page. Chlod (say hi!) 19:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back! Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  18:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:46, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Again, welcome back! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  17:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back
I just wanted to welcome you back to editing. I know I've been silent on this matter up until now. TornadoLGS (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , welcome back! — Yours, Berrely  (🎅 Ho ho ho! 🎄) • Talk∕Contribs 20:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * as well, please see my talk page for more information(and actually please read the whole thing, don’t skim). HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 20:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome back Destroyeraa! 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 20:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Welcome back to Wikipedia, Destroyeraa! We’re rooting for you. -Shift674-🌀contribs 20:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * . Welcome back! I still have faith in you, Destroyeraa. Cheers! Tfess up?or down? 20:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * . Already sent my messages earlier but I wanted to join the like chain too. Chlod (say hi!) 20:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * . Destroyeraa, I'm happy for you to be here.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  02:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

 * Thank you so much! Yum! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 20:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Mentorship
Hey there Destroyeraa. Now that your block has been lifted, I have two assignments for you. First, any time you're on a talk page or a user page, make sure your edit makes the editing environment a better place. That includes
 * Not removing talk page comments (it's best to leave them until they're archived, let other people handle that)
 * Making sure your comment adds to the existing discussion. If you're agreeing with someone, then just saying "I agree" doesn't matter much, since Wikipedia isn't a democracy where votes matter. If you disagree with someone, make sure it's respectful, assume good faith, and try being inclusive.
 * Talk for the sake of talk is useless, and every sentence we write in talk space means less time for editing the main article space.

As for the second assignment, I'd like you to pick a long-term article. I know you have Chris and Beryl, but they're largely done. I'd like you to pick something that you could devote an entire month to (assuming you'll still be doing some regular edits to other articles here and there). Pick something that really captures your interest. It should be ranked worse than a good article.

One more thing, I saw your public apology. That's a good way to garner people's trust again. Just make sure you don't lose that trust. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and I hope you are well. For assignment 1, I'll try to keep number 1 in mind, and Jasper Deng has already talked to me about it off-wiki. He says that sometimes you can manually archive the discussion if it is definitively over or counterproductive. The only exception I can think of is the 2020 atl season talk page, which has a big banner that says don't turn it into a forum, and forum discussions can be refactored or removed. I'll try to keep that in mind. For number 2 of assignment 1, from an ITN perspective, just saying support or oppose doesn't say much. I'll try to always AGF. I entirely agree with . I have gradually learned in the past weeks and months that we as a project have been talking too much. Noah says that the 2018 FT is running low right now, and there are only a handful of participants.

For the second assignment, I don't believe that Beryl is ready yet. The impacts need a lot of expansion for GA, and the met history is outdated. I plan to do Chantal 2013, as a couple of users have found that it lacks an article. Thanks for the mentorship, and I look forward to what you have to say about my ideas! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * True you can manually archive the discussion, but at this point, I'd suggest you refrain from that. Do your best to make sure every edit is productive, and either adds to mainspace, or furthers the talk page discussion. If a discussion is becoming forum-y, let someone else handle it. As for the 2nd assignment, I still think you should pick something bigger. Chantal 2013 doesn't really need an article - its damage was minimal, and it was only a short-lived tropical storm. Those can be hard to write about (as you might find out when you do Beryl), as you might have difficulty finding impact information. I suggest you find something slightly bigger (but still doable). Don't try a retired hurricane (those can be overwhelming), but try for something bigger than Chris/Beryl. You can learn a lot by doing a bigger article. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, would you mind if I remove your apology from the newsletter? The newsletter should be about the project and the articles, but your apology makes it rather about you. By the time the newsletter comes out, it will have been over a month since your block ended. It's important to learn your lesson and move on. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I removed it myself. Regarding the newsletter, one of the main topics this issue is sockpuppetry, which is mainly in response to my actions. I'll try to remember . For Beryl, ReliefWeb is a good helping hand and I use it for English sources. I have yet to find more sources for it, though Spanish sources will be easy to find with "Tormenta Beryl impacto" o "Huracan Beryl impacto" o "Tormenta Beryl inundaction (flooding)" or something like that. Beryl still has a lot to be done IMO, and I just added some more info to Chris. Chantal is a requested article, and since it caused $10 million in damage and 1 death, there is surely information out there. In the atl, there aren't many article to write from scratch, though there are many in the WPAC but there's the language barrier. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Chantal has a perfectly fine section in its season article though, and it was a low-impacting tropical storm. I'm suggesting you find something with a bit more impact, something you can invest in for longer. As for Beryl, good instincts with the Spanish sources. I suggest using "danos" (damage) and "lluvia" (rainfall) in your searches. As for Chris (and other future articles), watch out for having too many sub-sections. If a section would only have a few paragraphs, it doesn't need sub-sections, and in Chris's case, the article would probably look better without them. One last thing: be sure articles are consistent with the units. I see you have inch (mm) as well as mm (inch) in the Canada section. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...I'll think about what storm to write about/improve. I wrote Cristobal 2020, but that will have to wait until TCRs come out. Thanks for the additional search terms! I can get the basic gist of most Spanish articles, such as how much damage occurred or whether someone died. I removed the subsections for Chris. How does it look? ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 20:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Chris looks better, although there's one too many pics now. Your call which one to remove. Also, I'd like to discuss your recent contributions. Is there a reason you're getting so involved with articles for creation? I think it's more important you learn how to write articles, and how to engage other users productively. I'm a little concerned about your interactions with . I think this edit was valid, considering you were blocked for sockpuppetry, and my mentoring you is because you do need more oversight. You need to be sure that all of your edits make Wikipedia a more productive editing atmosphere. That means engaging other users positively, and assuming good faith. The only way Wikipedia works is when the editing atmosphere is positive and not toxic. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding HurricaneTracker495's edit, it was absolutely inappropriate in the way it was worded. Many members of WPTC, including me, believe it was to incite more distrust against me. Also, the way that the editor had been acting against me is rather disruptive. For example, the editor has cast aspersions saying things like "Destroyeraa may become an LTA" or "There is a fear that he (Destroyeraa) will become a LTA." In addition, witch hunting is never allowed on Wikipedia, and though HT495 probably did not meant it to be taken that way, the wording was overly rude and harsh. One-month accounts should not be involved in requesting longer blocks for reformed sockmasters or telling admins how to do their job. I absolutely do not care if you want more scruity of my actions here. The SPI case was closed already and GeneralNotability ruled that a one-week block was justified, with Mz7 concurring. I am very grateful for them giving a second chance. However, I do not appreciate people going around and advocating that I should be re-investigated and re-blocked indefinitely. I don't have any other problems with HT495 other than the overly pushy behavior and the casting aspersions. ~  Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, I am dissatisfied with HurricaneTracker's response to many users, include and I. Instead of admitting that casting aspersions is wrong and that he may have offended me, he deflected by writing two more allegations and grievances, including how I don't use PCR much (I did, he later struck that out) and how I close things without the . I just have concerns about his GF, but I am glad that both of us are being mentored right now. ~  Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding AFC, I find it helpful to help other users with their drafts (see thread below). I made at least 20 articles from drafts (including Dolores and Chris), and I think I know enough to help other users to improve their drafts. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

You also have the right to ignore people you disagree with on here, and if you want to prove him wrong, then do so with your actions instead of giving the user so much of your time and energy. We're all just users on here trying to do our best. Disputes between editors is a big waste of time. You're not always going to get an adequate apology, and you're not going to be fast friends with some users. Wikipedia isn't a forum or a social club. It's a website to document human knowledge. Try keeping that in mind if you get heated or annoyed. Lastly, I'd like to ask, what are your long term goals for the website? Let's say, one year from now, what would you like to accomplish? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:17, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not expecting an apology from him anymore, and I'll probably forgive his pushy behavior and forget about the dispute sooner or later.
 * I will probably want to get at least one article to FA status, at the least. I'd like to see the 2018 atl season to good topic. I'll think some more about it later. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:23, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Whether it's HT495 or anyone else, just try to maintain a civil editing atmosphere, and focus on why you're here - building up the encyclopedia. That's a good goal, getting a featured article. That's why I suggested earlier picking an article that you could work on for a month. I think you might have some difficulty with Chris or Beryl, considering they're fairly low-impacting storms, and you might have an easier time with a slightly bigger storm at FA. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I try hard not to get mad, and I usually don't unless something really irks me (LTAs, persistent vandalism, etc.). By the way, I'm helping Chlod on his draft - . The 2020 WPAC season really hurt the Philippines a lot, considering they got typhoon after typhoon with only a week to clean up and assess damages. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea for a draft, but it would be even more helpful if you tried expanding one of the storms. Vongfong is in good shape, but a lot of the other articles are borderline stubs. And unfortunately, the WPAC has a ton of stubs for recent storms, they don't get a lot of love. This is why I've been pushing lately for not so much talk on the talk pages. Wikipedia isn't a forum, and there is a lot of typing going on that could be used to improve recent storms with articles. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:33, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * True. The WPAC tends to receive less love than the ATL or EPAC seasons, which is sad. However, due to the large influx of new editors this year (probably due to the pandemic), 2020 has received a lot more love than 2019. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Quite true! I just hope all of these new users don't just leave after the season, or stop editing. There are so many articles from this year alone, many of which are in pretty lousy shape. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have noticed that several users are interested in promoting articles to GA, and  have nominated Hurricane Sally and Hurricane Zeta, respect, respectively. However, neither article were in good shape (both start-class with citation needed tags). Nevertheless, it is good to know and see other "new" editors other than me interested in the GA process. ~  Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yea, there's a difference between someone being a casual editor (usually they remove vandalism, and occasionally nominate articles for GA status for something they've barely worked on) and a serious writer. There aren't *too* many writers in the project. That's why I'm glad you worked on Chris and Dolores 15, and I hope you find other projects that you're interested in getting to GA or better. One idea is List of New Jersey hurricanes, which is a featured list, but probably for not much longer unless someone works on it. Any interest in that? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

KN passed Chris earlier today. I'm a bit concerned about the List of statename hurricanes lists, since many are FL but don't meet the standards anymore. I hate delisting those, as I did on the Florida list. By the way, some users have joined the Non-tropical storms Wikiproject, even though it is defunct. Maybe they want to restart the project? ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 22:09, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As for the lists, hopefully we can get them all back up to featured status. If it's only a few storms, they can be improved without delisting the entire article. If it's a significant number of entries (as was the case for Florida), then delisting is appropriate. It's not too hard maintaining these lists, so hopefully we can get a few interested editors working on that, since these lists are a valuable asset. As for the non-tropical storms project, I'm wondering if that project might be better being part of a broader WikiProject for all weather (as was discussed in the past). People into nor'easter articles might also be interested in floods and tropical cyclones, after all. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:37, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

How did you know this IP was HT495? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Hurricanehink. I know it mainly because of this and behavioral overlap. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:11, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Gotcha :/ Looks like someone else could use mentoring. Speaking of, how are you doing on Wikipedia these days? Do you have any question about editing, interacting with other users, good or featured articles, anything like that?  Have you had any disputes with anyone other than HT 495? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Nah, luckily I haven't had any disputes with anyone else. I don't really count my interactions with HT495 as a "dispute" or a "grudge", though some of his rather pushy behavior does bug me a little. Anyway, I'm making some good headway in Beryl. Spanish sources do come in handy, and a big expansion happened for the Dominican Republic after I used three Spanish sources. I still have a few more to go, expect to see some more expansion in the coming days! I plan to GAN Beryl before New Years Day. Thanks for you help. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding HT495, please see User talk: HurricaneTracker495. 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  19:30, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

 * Thank you ! Yum! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:12, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Request on 15:13:32, 7 December 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Howenstein115
Draft article for Storm Products

Not sure what else I can do. I cited numerous sources, as many as I could find that were neutral. It's difficult to write an article about a bowling ball manufacturer without citing sources from the bowling world. If this article does not meet qualifications, then I suggest the already-published bowling ball manufacturer articles for Ebonite International, Hammer Bowling, and Columbia Industries do not, either. There is no consistency in approval guidelines.

FYI -- Thank you!

Howenstein115 (talk) 15:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I fixed the draft and accepted it. Thanks for adding to Wikipedia! Cheers, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
Just wanted to say thanks for your help with my first entry. Still very much a novice on here! Martin1094 (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC) Martin1094 (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You'll get the hang of it soon enough. I'm happy I helped! Cheers, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 18:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Will you add your barnstar to you userpage? Poxy4 (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the barnstar! I will add all my barnstars when I clean up my userpage. It seriously needs updating, and I'll probably do that over the weekend. Cheers, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 15:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay! Poxy4 (talk) 18:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

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Your GA nomination of Hurricane Chris (2018)
The article Hurricane Chris (2018) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hurricane Chris (2018) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 08:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Please make sure to note it was a NAC. Thanks. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 14:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, Thanks. What about Talk:2020_Atlantic_hurricane_season and Talk:2020_Atlantic_hurricane_season? ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 14:40, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * NAC (and its associated template) is only for closures that can possibly result in administrator action (renames, moves, merges, etc.) It is not required for discussions like these, as any registered editor in good standing may close a discussion. Thanks. Chlod (say hi!) 14:44, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Ok, but then Destroyeraa still has to put NAC on Talk: Hurricane Epsilon (2005). Also, neither one of us closed them, and tbh it’s not worth pestering everyone. I just hope they will follow in your footsteps :) HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 14:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, they don't. Quoting WP:MERGECLOSE: Any user may close the discussion and move forward with the merger if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge. Admins are not needed. It didn't require administrator intervention either, as it wasn't a copy-paste merge (which would require WP:HISTMERGE). Perfectly valid closure. Chlod (say hi!) 15:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * tbh, there’s no reason why these discussions need to be formally closed. Only for merges, splits, RFCs, etc. when a NAC designation is required. Why waste time closing discussions? HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 15:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing a discussion is required in order to signify that the consensus of a discussion has been determined and is final, such that the discussion no longer be dealt with in the future. In both discussions, a consensus was determined, and Destroyeraa closed the discussion reflecting said consensus. Specifically on Talk: Hurricane Epsilon (2005), there had been a long and stretched-out discussion which would have been hard to get the obvious consensus of, hence the need (or at least, the added bonus) for a closure. Same goes for this thread's namesake, which I initially thought would be an early-closed discussion due to the bolded Wait comments, but was actually on the affirmative after a good look at it. Moreover, that discussion would have been continued had Destroyeraa not made any indication that the changes were made. Closing discussions can help inform a user of the outcome of a discussion. If you have something against that, then you can talk about it on the right page.
 * I'd like to apologize to Destroyeraa for having to put this on your page. I would put this on HT495's talk page, however Darren-M has suggested that I lay off of that page for a while, which I am happy to respect. Chlod (say hi!) 15:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not mind at all! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 15:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Awards
Hey Destroyeraa, would you mind if I added your newest awards to your main page? I noticed that they were missing and I am willing to add them on real quick. 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  20:22, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! Thank you very much! You can edit my userpage anytime you want! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 20:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know :) 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  20:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I added a bunch of awards and barnstars that you have gotten, except for like 1 or 2 that I saw that were suggesting that you should take a break ETC 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  20:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Omar 2020
Hello. I see you merged Omar 2020 due to consensus to merge, but you didn't actually implement the information in the season article.(Unless the consensus was to redirect, not just merge). Please merge the info back in, thanks. --Hurricane Tracker 495 13:56, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It wasn't me. Anyway, actually merging (adding in the content) is pointless, as it will be cut down immediately. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 17:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * See this edit summary for this edit. Meging is when we take contents from one article and put it in another. Redirecting is when we simply move the article. Anyway, I started a discussion at Talk: 2020 Atlantic hurricane season. --Hurricane Tracker 495 17:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Template:
I’ve noticed that Removing the Template: thingy doesn’t have any effect on the userbox you remove it from. -Shift674-🌀contribs 02:01, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, can you please elaborate a little? Which template? Thanks, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 02:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that Shift674 meant the user templates in your user page: for example, if I did and , the results would be the same in the following, respectively:




 * Also, apologies for taking up space in your talk page with these user boxes: I needed to show a demonstration. Tfess up?or down? 03:55, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for elaborating. -Shift674-🌀contribs 04:15, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Template namespace does not need to be included for most templates.  For example, the article namespace is another hidden one: the article namespace. Technically speaking, the article namespace begins with a colon, like  . Hurricane Beryl is the same as Hurricane Beryl, though we use the latter. I hope this helps. ~  Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:31, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

My analysis discussion
Hey dude can you critique my Report on TS Arthur? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mhHi-VPm6PYykQlCw9qRAq3_4U2RI8ZXcKSQkvPl8xk/edit?usp=sharing. Doge1941 (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Hernan
Hello Destroyeraa, I noticed that you were involved in a discussion about an original draft for Tropical Storm Hernan back in August or September. Well, I did some research and found the Hernan actually had some significant effects in Mexico, and caused a fatality, so I made a second draft and wrote it. I was wpndering if you would check it out and find any mistakes or potential conflicts before it reaches reviewer, since it is currently an AfC, since you have had more experience reading storm articles than I. It is accessible at this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tropical_Storm_Hernan_(2020) Thank you! JoeMT615 (talk) 23:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Amending signatures
Just a courtesy note - please do not amend somebody else's signature on a talk page unless you are adding one to an unsigned comment or are fixing markup that violates the signature guidelines, per WP:TPOC. There are other ways to deal with alleged socking. Best, Darren-M   talk  — Preceding undated comment added 09:29, December 14, 2020‎
 * Ok, I understand. Thanks you. Best, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 14:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for the barnstar! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 18:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem! Enjoy! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  19:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Checking in:
 Hello Destroyeraa, Cyclone Corona has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Hey man! Haven't seen you around on Wikipedia lately. Just wanted to see if everything's okay. But still, I am really shocked that you got blocked for confirmed sockpuppetry. I hope you have learned your lesson. 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 18:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the smiley! I'm ok, what about you? Yeah, I have learned my lesson. Thanks again! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 18:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm good! But why did you sock in the first place? 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 18:55, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Another question, did you copy and paste the code for your userboxes from LightandDark2000? Just wondering. Don't get COVID, 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 18:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
You need this kitten. I hope you can return to editing soon, Destroyer!! I know you are going through some hard times on Wikipedia (hinted by the trout slaps), but as I say, never let mistakes discourage you. You can do it, Destroyer!

Thanks,

Poxy4 (talk) 19:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC) 

?
Hi. I am sorry to see that you have semi-retired from Wikipedia. No offense, but may I ask why you have decided to do so? If you don't want to answer then that is fine, but I hope the best for you mate, and I hope things turn out alright. Thank you for all of the support and help that you have given me since I joined. Best wishes to you. Cheers ~ 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  19:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Retirement
Hey Destroyeraa, I saw that you are now semi-retired from Wikipedia. I hope that this is just a Wiki-Break and that you can return to editing soon. I hope that you're doing ok.

(I noticed that you are also a student. Best of luck on your finals!) 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 21:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I know I caused some worry in my fellow editors. I'm sorry. I probably shouldn't have put up the semi-retired banner. What I mean is I am taking a week+ long wikibreak due to stress and some upcoming exams. Thank you for the kitten, Poxy, and thank you for the kind words and concern, Weatherman27 and CodingCyclone. Stay safe. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 21:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand, as I am a student as well. (I took a final yesterday and another today!) I'm glad that between your education and WP, your education comes first. I haven't been able to edit for a week or 2 now myself because of the studying and stuff as well as some personal matters. Like Weatherman27 said, just don't let it get to your head. It will only make it worse. And if you do get a bad score, don't stress too much. In 5-10 years, it won't matter. Just hang in there, and I speak for all of us when I say that we will be glad to see you here during winter break.  Best of luck, 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 21:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words. I hope you did well on your finals! Stay safe! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 00:06, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand completely. Best of luck during school. I know how it feels, I have done plenty of exams :)  Just stay calm, and focus. One of the things that I have always been taught is to be present-minded. Stress and anxiety are never good for a person, regardless of the situation, even if it can't be helped. But being present minded is good, because you think about now, rather than what might happen in the future. Yes, you have exams coming up. I understand that, but, at the same time, you will only continue to feel worse if you let it get to your head. Take a deep breathe, and focus on what is happening at present day. The exams will come when they do. Focus on subjects that you struggle on, and work on them thoroughly. Relax, and think about only the things that effect you at this very moment. I am sorry if that made no sense at all. I guess what I am trying to say is that it is never a good mindset to stress and worry about something that is in the future. You can prepare for it now, and feel better about it when the time comes, whenever that may be. Again, my apologies if this made no sense whatsoever. Just trying to give some advice that has helped me get through my exams in the past. 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)   21:56, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I read though it, and it makes perfect sense! Thank you for your advice and encouragement! I need to take some time off here to study and mentally prepare myself :). Have a wonderful rest of your week, and stay safe. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 22:02, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear :) Good luck on the exams, and stay calm. Thank you, I hope you do too. 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  22:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That makes 2 of us. I'm practically out of commission on WP until Saturday. I wish you the best of luck.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 00:06, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I wish you the best of luck as well. Thank you for the encouragement. Stay safe. ~  Destroyer 🌀🌀 00:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Good luck with everything on the exam and the disconnect front. All the best. Stay well. Ktin (talk) 22:29, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I second this one.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 00:06, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Typhoon Ruby
It's all done. Please take some time for whether Ruby is GA or not.  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  13:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the actions on Winner[SomeAnimalName]99
Hey, thanks for filing the report on Winner[insert_animal_name_here]99. I was about to start one in response to his/her apparent block evasion, but you saved me the trouble. Thanks! I hope your exams go well and that you have a safe and happy holiday season!

And about that IP edit on the hurricane season: if you think it's an improvement, I'm fine with that. It didn't look that way to me (and I tend to react pretty quickly to people using Grammarly to make unexplained edits to WP pages, which is what it looked like), but I appreciate the extra pair of eyes. Cheers! &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 19:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem! The Winner[Insert_animal_name_here]99 person was becoming a nuisance, I'm sure, to numerous people here on Wikipedia. The IP associated with WinnerAnimal99 is being used to evade their block. Speaking of the IP edit on 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, you reminded me to go copy-edit the IP's revision/addition. Thanks for your well-wishes, and I hope you have a wonderful holiday. Cheers, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

 * Yum! Thank you! I still have some more exams Monday through Wednesday though. I really am grateful for the support. Happy holidays! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 17:12, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Check-in
Hey there Destroyeraa. I wanted to check in and see how your edits were going, how your long-term plans were going, and if you had any projects lined up. Hope your exams went well. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:47, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey there, I'm doing well and I just finished my exams. How are you? I'm about finished with Beryl, which has 61 sources now. I'll be nominating that for GA soon. Also, do you mind answering some questions for the 45th edition of the Hurricane Herald? Thanks, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Good job with Beryl! The 2018 AHS will be done in no time. And sure, I'm always an open book, I'll help with the next newsletter. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My next project will be Florence, which I will work on with LightandDark. He is an active vandal fighter and LTA crusher, and has written several articles (C- or B-class). He hasn't done any GA reviews yet, so Noah thought it would be a good idea for him to team up with me to do Florence. Thoughts? Also, thanks for the encouragement for Beryl. I nominated it for GA. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oof, now that's a big project! That will probably take you a few weeks, but it'll be a huge accomplishment when you're done. You may want to do a North Carolina sub-article (don't do both Carolinas in one, that wouldn't make sense), that way the state's $20+billion in damage doesn't overwhelm the rest of the article. I'd imagine there are lots of impacts all across the eastern US, probably random power outages, floods, and other impacts. I suggest you focus on area by area. If North Carolina is too overwhelming, then maybe start with South Carolina or Virginia. I've done that for a few big projects - do the easy areas first, so that by the time I have to do the worst-affected area, it's the only thing left to do. Good luck with the article, and hopefully have fun while you do it! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:19, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Well, I'm going to take a few days off WP to celebrate the holidays and spend time with family, then come back around New Years Day to finish up Beryl. Stay safe in your travels, and have a very happy and healthy holiday! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * A few days off? Hah, I'll believe it when I see it! I feel like every year I end up doing a few edits on Christmas/Thanksgiving/New Years' in my downtime. Reverting vandalism beats awkward smalltalk with extended relatives. :P Happy holidays as well! Stay healthy and sane. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I know that feeling all too well. :P Every time I tell myself that I'm finally going on a WikiBreak, it never lasts for long. (Unless school gets in the way.) With maybe an exception or two. I always come back during my breaks. Even when I'm on vacation (as long as I have internet access). ;D  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 22:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

A US 20 for you
Also, please update your userpage with more barnstars. Thanks, --Hurricane Tracker 495 23:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the barnstar! Happy to help! Happy holidays, and stay safe. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 13:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * one thing though; please add the new barnstars to your userpage. --Hurricane Tracker 495 15:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Just an FYI on the WPTC roster
FYI, we normally don't rotate users off the roster unless they haven't edited TC articles for a year or more. The only exceptions we make tend to be if they have gone completely inactive on-wiki for at least a few months, or if there are indications that they may have left WPTC for the time being. We usually wait for a 6-month absence in those cases. I don't know whose idea it was to rotate off users who haven't edited TC articles for a month or two, but it isn't right. But I'm not going to revert any of the changes, unless it involves users who were active on TC articles as recently as a month or two ago. Just wanted to let you know, since you're clearly someone who knows what they're doing.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 01:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

PS, good luck on your remaining exams! Don't over-stress yourself.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 01:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I finished my exams. That last midterm gave me headaches but I felt I did pretty well on it. Go check out Beryl, since I finished construction. It grew from 18 kb to 37 kb. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

This
You removed a lot of content and said you'd paste it into Tropical cyclone naming. Please do so, it is useful info. --Hurricane Tracker 495 20:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Typhoon Cimaron
Hello it’s me Robloxsupersuperhappyface. I need help expanded the meteorological history section on my draft for Typhoon Cimaron of 2018. I was wondering if you would be willing to help me find some information to at least double the section’s size. If you can’t thats fine, but anyways, thank you and goodbye!Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk)

Whoops, I keep forgetting to add the year when linking my drafts. Here is the correct link. Thanks!Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk)

Season's Greetings!
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message  --Hurricane Tracker 495 01:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Happy holidays to you as well! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 13:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Message re. Effects of Hurricane Charley in Jamaica at 18:27, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi. You reverted my edits as unsourced, but http://www.hurricanescience.org/history/storms/2000s/charley/ claims $4.1 million, which seems reliable. If you have any concerns with that source let me know. Hurricane Tracker 495 18:27, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for referencing it in the lead. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 21:29, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas Destroyeraa!

 * Thanks! Merry Christmas and have a wonderful new year! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 20:52, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

 * Thanks! Merry Christmas and have a wonderful new year!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021 to you too! :)

 * Thanks! Merry Christmas and have a wonderful new year! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 20:50, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

HurricaneTracker495 blocked
HurricaneTracker495 has been blocked, per "Checkuser block account". I think you should be informed of this. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:10, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

A sockpuppet of, says the blocking admin.
 * WHAT?! HOW? I'm speechless. This doesn't make sense, if you look at his edits. 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 15:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

SPI Cases
Just a heads up, in future SPI cases, you'll have to present evidence if the behavioral connection is not so obvious that it's as plain as day. Now, for us, I know that the connections between Andrew5's IPs and his newest sock, HurricaneTracker495, are obvious, but this may not be the case for people who aren't familiar with the sockmaster. It's especially important to present evidence in any cases where a CU is likely to be declined (e.g. IP-only cases), and in any cases where the behavioral connections are not immediately obvious. Just keep this in mind next time.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 23:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for Owen advice
Hello. As we all know, I'm working on Cyclone Owen, and you have been the nominator of a few GAs and the reviewer of still more (not in a combination, of course). Could you give me some advice on making it a GA? 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 13:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Stop trying to bring other users into the discussion, making excuses over why you can not follow the advice that we have given you about developing the MH using the sources we have supplied you with.Jason Rees (talk) 14:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Haven't I've already done something? Today I removed the Watchers refs. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  14:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah you did a couple of minor tweaks but have still not added content in from the advisories or TCR like we have told you too.Jason Rees (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The BoM technical bulletins are in there, and so is the official BoM report. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  16:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to go further though and build the story using JTWC bulletins as well which is what we keep trying to tell you.Jason Rees (talk) 16:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've started doing just that. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:55, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
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 Destroyeraa , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours!  HurricaneEdgar    17:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

Happy New Year!
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 Destroyeraa , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! -Shift674-🌀contribs 18:58, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Happy new year! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 21:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
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 Destroyeraa , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! Cyclone   Toby  23:10, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Happy New Year! Destroyeraa, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Hoping to work with you on WPTC even more this year! Chlod <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">(say hi!) 09:27, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
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 Destroyeraa , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 12:53, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 12:53, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too! :)
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 Destroyeraa , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
 * Thanks! Cheers, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Happy New Year!!

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Incomplete DYK nomination
Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Hurricane Beryl at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with db-g7, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 15:23, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for the barnstar! I am very glad to help you and other editors! I hope you had a wonderful holiday. Cheers, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 19:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem! Thanks, I hope you had a wonderful holiday too! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox)  19:09, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You should come on discord some time since some developments are occurring. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 22:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try to come on today. The thing is, one of my discord accounts was compromised, so I am wary to come on. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 13:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hmm...
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Oh, Destroyer. Whatever am I going to do with you? 🤣  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 22:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Smashed


Smash!

You've been squished by a whale! Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly. 😜

HAHAHAHA!!!! Surprise!! Gotcha! Bet you didn't see that one coming! 🤣 From yours truly,  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 01:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


 * LOL! Sorry XD. I'll try to come on off-wiki today but one of my discord accounts was compromised (Destroyerhurricane99). I dunno by who, but the password has been changed (not by me) and I couldn't log into that account. This is why I haven't been that active on there lately...taking some precautions. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 13:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, if you used a tough password, it shouldn't have been that easy (I have a password strength testing link near the top of my talk page). You could probably either try to force a hard reset (request a change in password), or request the deletion of that account. I have some ideas as to who may be responsible, but I'm not going to be bringing up any names on-wiki. And make sure that your other accounts are secure, at least. I remember that after an LTA tried cracking my account in the mass cyberattack in May 2018, I changed my password, and then, I went and hardened my password on most other websites where I was active. Anyway, take care.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for the barnstar! It means a lot. Stay safe, ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 15:37, 8 January 2021 (UTC)