User talk:Diannaa/Archive 44

Re:copyright violation
Please don't add copyright material to this wiki, not even temporarily, like you did at Acute proliferative glomerulonephritis. Please re-work the content before you save it. Thanks, -- Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:38, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Diannaa 🍁 I just ran the prior copyvio link, to which specific edit are you referring to?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 19:25, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Replying on your talk page. -- Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks and Happy New Year
Thanks for your continued help with Eranbot. I wish you peace and happiness for you in the New Year.--Lucas559 (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Chicken Island (Guangdong) pictures
I trust your copyright expertise. Please will you take a look at the pictures in this draft. I am not sure their attribution leads to the free onward licencing, but it also appears that the uploader might be the author. This one is outside my competence. Fiddle  Faddle  08:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Since the images have already appeared elsewhere online, and/or appear to be credited to someone else as author, and it's not clear whether or not the uploader is the author, an OTRS ticket is required. The local ones get tagged for F11 speedy deletion and the ones on the Commons get tagged with {subst:npd}. There were three on the Commons that were not yet tagged, and I have gone through the local images as well. One of these was already listed at WP:PUF and one I deleted as a copyright violation. several are tagged as "own work" and I can't find them online so we will have to assume they are ok. -- Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:26, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will try to follow that set of examples for the future. Fiddle   Faddle  22:35, 3 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Just a heads up. On the commons, c:User:Zcliving's recent uploads have all been deleted by Materialscientist on the commons. I tried for 3 days to connect to the .cn source provided but the site would hardly load anything after a long wait and never any of the images. Now all the same images have been uploaded here again today after you already deleted them once yesterday but now claiming them to be their own work. All highly suspicious. ww2censor (talk) 13:28, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The only new upload on this wiki is File:Chicken island(Guangdong)20.jpg. Is that one of the ones that was deleted at the Commons? -- Diannaa (talk) 13:34, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * There were so many that I cannot remember. Fiddle   Faddle  13:37, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Actually as of this post there are now 23 images. Because he previously claimed there were from a website (which would never lead the images) and now claims they are his own work, we should really insist on an OTRS verification. The newest 4 File:Chicken-island-transportation.jpg to File:Chicken island(Guangdong)23.jpg do now have metadata, unlike the others, so they might be ok. What do you think Diannaa? ww2censor (talk) 11:28, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling these are his own work, and he added the link to the webiste as a way to try to drive traffic to the site. I've listed the new uploads for F11 deletion and requested that he explain to us what is going on. Adding: A few of the images were declared as "own work" right from the beginning, and I did not nominate those for deletion. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. For now I'm just watching them as you have taken them on. You may well be right that they are his images but without metadata and changing the source did raise some suspicions but some interaction may resolve the questions. ww2censor (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Deleted page
Why did you delete the page India–Qatar relations after I went through significant trouble re-writing the entire article and fact checking the sources? Please restore it. Elspamo4 (talk) 17:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It was deleted because it was created by a sock of a blocked user, a repeat copy vio offender. I have gone ahead and restored it at your request, and have hidden some of the old revisions. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:47, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I already checked and replaced the copyvio but I'll be sure to scan it again to see if there's anything too closely paraphrased. Elspamo4 (talk) 21:56, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping out with this. -- Diannaa (talk) 21:57, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

NIA Most Wanted deletion
Why was this page deleted? Is there really no way for you to add a comment explaining the reason? The page is linked to from Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and the article is a bit confusing if you cannot see the context.

Tim.thelion (talk) 18:11, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It was deleted because it was created by a sock of a blocked user, a repeat copy vio offender. It was also recently heavily edited by yet another recent sock. Looking at the page history, I see the article is the same as the last known good version (20:23, October 21, 2014‎), except for the addition of citations, so I have gone ahead and restored it. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/82.53.179.230
Can you please block him/her? He/she involved edit warring and personal attack on User talk:115.164.49.63. 115.164.91.175 (talk) 13:48, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Deleted content
Hi there Diannaa Can you tell me what the issue was with the capstone courses page? None of the materials I added were copyright. I wrote the text and used my own work, which was referenced correctly. Thanks Leendpro (talk) 01:56, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please read the material I posted on your talk page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Diannaa, I am aware of that. Could you please point out what material you think has been pasted? Leendpro (talk) 20:42, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi again Leendpro. It looks like the content was actually added by someone else a little earlier on, not by you. Sorry for the mistake. I have restored your addition as it looks to be okay from a copyright point of view. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:28, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Much appreciated, thank you. Leendpro (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Please restore deleted draft page
Hi Diana,

You deleted this page due to supposed copyright infringement, can you please restore it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Krein_space

It was only a draft, I wasn't aware this could be viewed by any user, but it is certainly not a copyright infringement, I took bits from the wikipedia article on inner products and Hilbert spaces, and I suppose the forum post on mymathforum did the same, this is done quite a lot.

Thanks Biker333 (talk) 12:05, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I can't restore it, as it contains copyright violations. Would you like me to send you a copy via email? -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:16, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, please send me a copy via email, that will be helpful. Biker333 (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:17, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Persistent copyright violator
Hi, Dianna, perhaps you will remember that I wrote you earlier about a prolific article creator,, who has persistently added copyrighted material to English Wikipedia, either blatantly copy-and-pasting or paraphrasing sources too closely. I am really getting sick of fixing his articles, which are usually written in terrible English, and often egregiously full of errors and misinformation. Too many times I've wasted time and effort correcting them, only to discover that I've been editing text that he lifted from copyrighted sources, or straight machine translations from copyrighted Spanish sources. He sometimes lightly edits the translations, which are frequently indistinguishable from his own garbled English. I've wised up, and since I communicated with you, have been using Earwig's copyvio detector, which I've found sometimes inexplicably misses blatant copyvios, or else delivers false positives from Wikipedia mirrors.

The latest violation I've discovered, the most egregious yet, which Earwig's detector somehow missed, consists of long passages copy-and-pasted verbatim from the Isleños in Louisiana website to the Isleños in Louisiana article (created by him). The fact that the material was written in perfect English was a red flag, since his is horrible, and often unintelligible. He has claimed that his previously detected violations were accidental, but there is no way that these long passages were added to the General history, Demography, and St. Bernard sections of the article accidentally.

Somebody needs to stop this guy, who has so arrogantly insisted on ignoring the editorial conventions and policies of English Wikipedia. Carlstak (talk) 19:16, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * These sections were added to the article with its initial creation, in February 2015. I can't block now for undetected copyright violations that occurred nearly a year ago. (The article can be deleted, and I have done this). If you have some examples of copyright violations that occurred since I warned him in November, please let me know. Blocking him for incompetence is not something I am prepared to do. If you wish to pursue that angle, please open a thread at WP:ANI. Adding, because I'm not sure I mentioned it yet: If you have five good examples of copyright violations, that's enough to consider opening a copyright investigation. See WP:CCI. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Dianna. I'll see what I can do. Cleaning up after this guy is exhausting. Carlstak (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Remember, you are under no obligation to do that. If it's ruining your enjoyment of the wiki, don't do it any more. It's okay -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:02, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, it's because many of the subjects he has created articles on are near and dear to my heart, and it pains me to see them. Also, I create or expand articles that mention those subjects, which readers would expect to be wikilinked. I have decided, though, to leave the rest of his articles alone, as anyone who knows English will see that they are badly written, and assume (one hopes) that they are unreliable, if they can even understand them. Carlstak (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible sock
Suspicions raised on a COI editor here:   Thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The user talk page says the acct was created to edit on this specific topic, and implies other past accounts or IP editing. shows some unsophisticated formatting. All edits are so far on the one topic. I am going to send you an email with some additional thoughts. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:40, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Deletion review for Isleños in Louisiana
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Isleños in Louisiana. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Der Brænder en Ild
Currently in the process of expanding this film article and making it of GA-quality. So far, I've added a lead and written a plot, but the plot strikes me as too long. Would really appreciate some copyedits whenever you find the time. Best, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 21:00, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You are correct, it is over-long, at 799 words. The recommendation is 400 to 700 words. I will look at it later. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:04, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. :) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 21:14, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 620 words. I removed the quotation marks around the character names - I don't think you're supposed to do that. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:03, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. Going to nominate it for GA-status. You can look forward to a Barnstar. :) Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 15:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi Dianaaa,

I have saw your edit on my "User page" and my "Talk" with the soft redirect template. I didn't know about it. Thank you very much!

Regards, Ivanhercaz (talk) 22:53, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Copyright in lists, revdeletion
Hi, Diannaa, Happy New Year! A while ago I asked for your opinion here, which you kindly gave. However, this just doesn't seem to be working, so I thought I'd see if there's any more advice you can offer. Apart from the 100 Most Powerful Women, some other pages affected include this, this, this and this. I'm confident that the list content is unacceptable in all of those cases, but it just won't stay dead! Revdeletion would of course be really helpful. Pinging, who I believe to be acting in good faith even if misguided. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have amended the Powerful Women back down to top-10 only and revision-deleted the bigger list. This is the way the list was being presented up until May 2014. I am going to amend Forbes Celebrity 100 so it only shows top-10 as well. It doesn't look like I will have time to finish before yoga class though, as someone has made some goofy tables with mark-up hacks that need fixing. Tackling the removal of all these lists is not something I am prepared to take on right now. Consensus seems to be that top-10 is acceptable for such articles. If you wish to pursue this further, your next stop should be WP:NFCR. Plse let me know of any further lists that need to be trimmed down to top-10 and I will do it. Best, -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:08, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Hypocrytical copywright deleton
you removed a contribution from Object 907 saying it was copywrite from http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-408673-p-6.html the info had nothing to do with that link, and the whole thing is hypocritical as the Object 907 page uses copy/pasted information from the notoriously incorrect game 'World of Tanks'.
 * If it's incorrect, it's just as well it was removed, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Restoring Deleted Page?
Hi Diannaa, writing to follow up on a deleted page from last year, Plastic Pollution Coalition. Please reference my Talk Page for your original message. Is it possible to restore the page as a draft so that I can use that copy as the basis for a new article?

Thanks! Revolute (talk) 19:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Revolute. I can't restore it, because it was deleted as a copyright violation. I could send you a copy by email if you like. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

That would be excellent! Thank you, Diannaa! Happy to drop an email address for you here if necessary. Revolute (talk) 20:01, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That will not be necessary, since you have email activated. Email sent — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

CSD'ed article recreated for the third time
Hello, Diannaa! A page you recently deleted under WP:CSD G12 was just recreated for the third time at Mger. Rather than CSD tagging the article again, I thought I'd just go to you directly on this... Thanks! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleted, salted. Thanks for reporting. — Diannaa (talk) 23:50, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME
Could you please rename the article Card flourish to Cardistry. I can't do because of redirects. Cheers, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 22:52, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If you could please file a request at WP:requested moves instead, as the move may require a history merge. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:56, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * What's a "history merge"? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 22:58, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's when the editing history of an article is split between two different locations. If I perform the move, the history at the destination page would be lost, unless a history merge is performed, because the destination page gets deleted prior to the move taking place. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:02, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Rheinwiesenlager
Doesn't it strike you as... well... let's use the phrase non-neutral, that this criminal starvation camp is not mention at all in World War II? Furthermore, when has it ever been mention in any documentaries or school books? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 19:25, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I know that there was a team effort to bring the article up to GA class back in 2010. Content choices must have been tough, as it's an overview article for a subject of wide scope. If you have suggestions for additions, best to post on the article talk page. As to mentions in school books, as far as I can recall WWII was not on the curriculum when I was in school. -- Diannaa (talk 19:40, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, as you know, I can't get near any Nazi-related articles because of my topic ban, but I find deeply sinister and shocking that such an inhuman event can take place without legal prosecutions, let alone be approved by a man who would go on to be President of the United States. History is indeed written by the victors. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 21:03, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I forgot you had a topic ban. You are violating your topic ban by discussing this topic on my talk page. Topic bans include all pages on this wiki. Go find something else to do before you get in trouble. -- Diannaa (talk 21:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Revdel
Hi, I think I've seen you popping up on my watchlist doing revdels of copyright violations. Often I just remove the content but I've come across a massive violation at K. Nath and unfortunately it happened in the very first edit, ie: the creation of the article itself. In the ideal world, this would have been spotted at the time and CSD applied ... but it didn't, so we're stuck with it.

What happens here? I'm not even sure that the chap is really notable but I always get into trouble when I nominate author articles for deletion. Could the article be deleted and immediately restored in the amended form that now exists? I have the feeling that might breach our licensing terms. - Sitush (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * What we normally do is revision-deletion of the edits that contain the violation. I've gone ahead and done that. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks. I didn't realise that the very first edit could be revdel'd without totally messing up the database. - Sitush (talk) 01:16, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you want to do the same at Dev Kumar? Pretty much everything after the lead section comes from this, which is a dodgy source anyway due to its hagiographic tendencies and uncertain provenance. - Sitush (talk) 01:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * MMkay, but that leaves a pretty thin little article. You might flesh it out a bit when you have time. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:24, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm afraid that these people are not really notable. They get passing mentions in discussions about Dalit literature but there are rarely any sources that discuss them as people or, indeed, discuss their specific writings other than in the most vague terms. - Sitush (talk) 01:28, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

West Virginia Radio Corporation
Hey Dianna, I am having carpal tunnel surgery in the morning, bright and early at 7:15am. Ugh!

With that, I will be off-Wiki for a couple weeks. I was wondering if you could you keep an eye on this section on my talk page, the West Virginia Radio Corporation page, and the edits by User:Patrickrinehart? This is all related to that PAID/COI issue from the other day.

I will check in after a couple days via my mobile account and emails are always welcome. Thanks in advance. :) -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 03:56, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm going to ping on this as well, since I originally posted about it on his talk page.  Two sets of eyes are better than one. :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 05:41, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi NH. Sorry to hear about the surgery, best wishes for a speedy recovery. I have already added these things to my watch-list. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries on the surgery. It's a long time coming.  I've been playing with computers since I was 6.  So my hands are pretty well screwed......well until about an hour from now. -  Neutralhomer has Escaped  •  Talk  • 13:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Nina Burri
Hello Diannaa, my article about Nina Burri has been deleted due to copyright issues. I have sorted the copyright issue now, Adam from Westwaterent has confirmed that I am allowed to use this content for Wikipedia:

Dear sirs I, Adam Sloat of Westwater Entertainment, hereby confirm that the Wikipedia entry of Nina Burri (German version: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Burri), by BlueGlass Interactive AG, i.e. SPeinBlue is a direct assignment by Nina Burri. They are explicitly permitted to use all and any content from our page: http://westwaterent.com/artist/nina-burri. Should any other questions come up, please don't hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, Adam

Regarding the "No credible indication of importance". Maybe you could let me know what you would need to know in order for the article to be of credible importance? Nina Burri was one of the contestants at "America's got talent" and is booked for various events around the world. Additionally she is regularly booked as actress. In Europe, and especially Switzerland (where she is from), she is widely known. Therefore an English Wikipedia entry would be important. You can find her German Wikipedia entry here.

I am looking forward to hearing from you and wish you a pleasant day --SPeinBlue (talk) 07:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi SPeinBlue. The permission email needs to be sent to the OTRS team using the instructions at WP:donating copyrighted materials, not posted on the deleting admin's talk page. The notability requirement for people can be found at Notability (people). In brief, we need to see in-depth coverage of the subject of the article in multiple independent sources. Appearing on America's Got Talent is not enough. Notability requirements differ from one wiki to another, so the fact that there's currently an article on de.wiki is irrelevant. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Grammar
Is it "holds an influence" or "holds a influence"? Both sounds correct to me. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 22:13, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Certainly “an influence”; the N is always included before a word that begins with a vowel sound, which is true of “influence” in all dialects.—Odysseus 1 4  7  9  22:26, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks a lot. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 22:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

restoration of Hung Tzu-yung
The subject's article, which you recently salted, now meets WP:NPOLITICIAN, see this article. Vycl1994 (talk) 17:47, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have restored and added info about the election. — Diannaa (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Copyright dispute
Hi Diana, I saw that you removed the speech text portion of my article from Atatürk's Address To Turkish Youth on the grounds that it violates copyright from 1927. Turkish Copyright Law defines copyright as Author's Life + 70 years, which in this case is 1939+70, meaning that the copyright expired on 2009. I'd appreciate it if you could review the decision to remove the text. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightstallion03 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Check out the Hirtle chart. We have to assume that the speech was published without compliance with US formalities. However, the speech was not in the public domain in the source country as of URAA date (January 1996). Therefore the speech is copyright until 95 years after publication date (1927+95=2022). — Diannaa (talk) 18:28, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Translate Familial spongiform encephalopathy associated with a new prion protein gene mutation
User:Diannaa How do you translate. I don't realy understand that part: I have heard of people doing it though.Spidersmilk (talk) 20:28, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * How do you translate? You need a fairly expert knowledge of both languages, and in this case, of medicine and science. The article is now listed at Pages needing translation into English as a potential candidate for translation. It's pointless to add foreign-language articles to this wiki, as no one will be able to read them. — Diannaa (talk) 20:32, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Provenance and authenticity of disputed image uploaded to Wikimedia commons
Hi, thank you for your efforts on the "Isleños in Louisiana" article. It ended as I thought it would, with me doing all the work.;-) I know this isn't a copyright issue, but I'm hoping you can advise me how I should proceed, or maybe point to protocols that I should follow. A certain user has uploaded multiple purported images of well-known figures from the American Old West to Wikimedia Commons. Many of them appear ludicrously unlike the authenticated images of known provenance. This person has the username of OSMOND PHILLIPS, and claims to be employed by the Phillips Collection, an assembly of 200 "photographs purchased from an antique store in Oklahoma nearly 20 years ago by happenstance".

One of the photos, of John Tunstall, which appears to be obviously inauthentic and has no provenance, is not present in the collection it supposedly came from. It is being used to illustrate his namesake article, as well as the Billy the Kid article, which has been nominated for Good Article status. The nominating editor,, who has invaded my user talk page to accuse me of aggressive, disruptive editing and edit-warring, insists on keeping this problematic image in both articles, although an image of superior quality and known provenance is available, and already present in the John Tunstall Wikipedia article. The disputed one is still present in "Billy the Kid", and this prickly editor insists on keeping it, even though the better quality photo of known provenance could be used instead. What do you think? Carlstak (talk) 21:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

, Carlstak has yet to support his claims about the second photo or the disparaging claims he's made about the editor who uploaded it with anything solid. So far, his comments have been fairly outlandish and based on his own original research. My comments at his talk page were hardly an "invasion". I went there to ask him to not edit aggressively (as he had been doing at the Billy the Kid article as well as the article talk page) and to not edit war as it would put the article's possible GA status in jeopardy. At the Tunstall article, his rationale for removing the Tunstall image in question was based on personal opinion: the lip of the man in the second photo was not the same as in the first and the "article doesn't need two photos of him anyway." He has since tried to discredit the editor uploading the second image (certainly this is not WP:AGF at all) to support his opinion of the photo. If he can prove the second image is false, I'm fine with that -- I think any reasonable editor would be -- but making claims based on one's original research is neither helpful nor substantive and is certainly not reason to remove content. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:39, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Winkelvi, I'm not seeing any edit warring by anyone on Billy the Kid. This edit by you, however, is concerning. Why blindly revert copyediting? clpo13(talk) 21:43, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I was asking him to not edit war at the article, I didn't say he had been edit warring. Further, it wasn't a "blind revert" - I looked at what he had done boldly and decided to revert in order for the changes he wanted to be discussed per WP:BRD.  The main reason I reverted was because of some poor editing and word choices and a general instability brought to an article that is being edited to achieve GA.  Further, in my estimation at the time, it seemed like vendetta changes based on Carlstak's previous negative and aggressive attitude toward me regarding the Tunstall photo and my responses to him regarding same.  Asking him to follow BRD on the article talk page was not out of line.  Note that he didn't follow that advice, rather, he started fighting and behaving aggressively about the Tunstall photo, instead.  -- WV ● ✉ ✓  21:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

I am not an admin on the Commons. I suggest you take up your concerns with admins on that wiki. It looks like a good place to start would be commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Diannaa. Carlstak (talk) 01:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

OTRS permission for deleted files
Hi, Diannaa! Acceptable permission has come through for a couple of files you deleted, this and this. Ticket number is 2015110710013381, and licence is dual. There wasn't sufficient permission for this one, though. Could I ask you to do the necessary for the first two? Many thanks as always, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Justlettersandnumbers: I've restored the files, which show a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License. Not sure what you mean by dual license. Please correct license to agree with the permission email. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:41, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Diannaa! The release is both cc-by-sa-3.0 and GFDL, so if it was text I'd set the license parameter of ConfirmationOTRS to "dual". But you know how much I know about images (i.e., nothing!), so of course I don't know how to do that in this case; or indeed if it is necessary. Do you? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * et voila. This one is even better:  — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, Diannaa, many thanks! Should those two be moved to Commons now? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:55, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, they certainly could be moved over now. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Engineering, Procurement and Construction
I don't see resemblance in the, now, meager Engineering, Procurement and Construction article and https://texvyn.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/epc-engineering-procurement-construction/ or previous http://www.dbpmanagement.com/wiki/epc and neither http://www.epcengineer.com/definition/132/epc-engineering-procurement-construction. There aren't many ways to word out EPC ! You state: "because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. And "say it in your own words". HOW ? Reference: User_talk:Robertiki and User_talk:Robertiki and User_talk:Beagel --Robertiki (talk) 00:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * has reduced the overlap from 64.6% down to 20.2%. This may be enough to stave off deletion, I will leave it to another admin to review and decide. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. We are all writing in good faith. But writing: "Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing" was unnecessary rude. The previous messages User_talk:Robertiki and User_talk:Robertiki show a different, more polite way to expose the problem. I would like to underline that I had asked the deletion of the first two articles samples (I simply got the wrong title). --Robertiki (talk) 00:51, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * What tool, have you used to check the overlap (64.6% to 20.2% ...) ? Or how does Wikipedia software search for infringement ? Thank you. --Robertiki (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * There's a couple of tools. The one that gives percentages is https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/ — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Email
—HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  03:18, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * User:HJ Mitchell: Nothing received so far - please re-send. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 05:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've re-sent it directly. You're the second person to tell me that they haven't received my emails via the Wikipedia email system. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  14:48, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Reply sent. Please feel free to add me to your contacts and send emails directly in the future. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Softvoyage Inc.
Hi Diana,

You deleted this page since it hadn't been edited in a few months. Can you restore it, please? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Softvoyage_Inc.&action=edit&redlink=1

It was only a draft, and I was still thinking about how to modify it to make it acceptable. I really don't know why it is not being accepted...?

In any case, I have a new draft which is much shorter. I would like to recover the references I had though.

By the way, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks and best regards, Mr.Morrisby (talk) 15:23, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

17:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)17:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZoB1958 (talk • contribs)
 * You will need to contact the deleting admin, which was User:Liz. I only deleted your sandbox. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Permission Granted User:ZoB1958
Hello Diana,

You removed my contribution "Relational Physiology" as I have used a couple of sentences from my own website there. Meanwhile, I sent a mail granting permission to use the said text, which I of course authored. [Ticket#: 2016011810017766]. Will you please bring the contribution back to live?

Thanks, ZoB1958 (talk) 17:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have restored the page. Please leave the template in place on the talk page. There's a queue of 94 days for OTRS to be cleared. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Izzat (1968)
Hi Dianna, Thanks for ur msg...saw it today..Will check next time before editing any article. I am a new user to Wikipedia, so not verse with it. Mitra Satapathy (talk) 17:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Edmonton & Area Land Trust
Hi Diana,

You deleted many parts of the Edmonton and Area Land Trust page. I work for EALT and was instructed to update the EALT Wikipedia article. I have the permission to use EALT sources for the page. Can you please restore what you deleted? I can send you proof via an EALT email address if required.

Robert Wikipedia account: Robertjohnwiki
 * Hi Robertjohnwiki . The copyright holder needs to send a permission email to the OTRS team using the instructions at WP:donating copyrighted materials. There's a sample email at WP:consent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 06:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Diana, The copyright holder has sent a permission email to the OTRS team using the instructions at WP:donating copyrighted materials. Could you restore the parts now please?

Robert Robertjohnwiki (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for taking the time to look after this. — Diannaa (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Diana! Robertjohnwiki (talk) 00:30, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Marcus Simaika picture for wikipedia
Hi Diannaa, Thank you for your message and the useful information about copyright. I have sent an e-mail to permissions-en@wikipedia.org. When do I expect the picture of Marcus Simaika to appear on his wikipedia page?

Youssef — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youssef simaika (talk • contribs) 15:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a photo at the Commons, File:Farid Simaika.jpg, but I don't think this is the one you mean, as the dates of birth and death don't match. That's the only photo that you have uploaded so far. You will have to upload the photo for us to include it in the article. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:06, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Rudel image question
Hi, do you think the file de:Datei:Rudelgrabstätte.jpg can be transferred to en:Wiki? Cheers
 * I have sent it to the Commons instead. File:Rudelgrabstätte.jpg. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you MisterBee1966 (talk) 20:12, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Card flourish
I made the request the 15th, but so far no comments have been made. Is this normal? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 21:50, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * yes, it is. There's often no comments to a suggested move. A lack of comments means it's okay to proceed. Leave it open for at least a week. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:25, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I thought the exact otherwise. Thanks! Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 00:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ten days and no comments. Do you feel comfortable moving it now? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 00:16, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If you could please list it at Requested moves, that would be best. I think it needs a history merge, but I'm not sure. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 08:20, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

User Bongan
Hello, I have made improvements in the articles History of Buddhism and Coins of India, and this user reverted my edits clearly out of spite. These edits were clearly improvements, however, the user reverted it without any reason. The reason being, I removed his sections on History of India about "Coin Age", which other users also agreed to be removed. This is a clear case of bullying on Wikipedia by this user. Kindly help. (2600:1001:B11A:35B2:D8BB:EA7E:CE38:8E9E (talk) 13:59, 20 January 2016 (UTC))

CU Requested
Hey Dianna, could you run a CU for me on, , and. All three have made "perfered version"-edits to the WXDB-LP page over the past couple days. I believe this is a single user, using multiple accounts (and now an IP) to add his/her perfered version to the page. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 20:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I am not a check-user. — Diannaa (talk) 20:04, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought you were. I've had you do CUs before, haven't I? -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 20:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No, not me. I have semi-protected the page for a week. — Diannaa (talk) 20:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Went back and checked my Help Desk page and nope, you weren't. Drmies is.  I knew it was a "D" letter.  I really need to get some sleep (insomnia) and I need to lay off the pain meds. :)  Thanks for the page protection.  I had requested it before coming here. :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 20:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Neutralhomer, Drmies isn't a checkuser either. Maybe you mistook Diannaa for DeltaQuad? Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:46, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Drmies received checkuser right as part of his Arbcom bit. — Diannaa (talk) 21:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Image undeletion request
Hi. Back in August 2012 you deleted File:ABC2 (logo).svg for non-use. Could you please undelete it as I plan to include it in a logo history gallery for ABC2. Such galleries already exist on many other Australian TV channel articles (e.g. Network Ten. Could you also please undelete File:C31Adelaide.svg for the same reasons (I contacted admin Chris G who deleted the file, but he is inactive and I have received no response). Thanks. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 04:59, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Update: Could you also please undelete File:C31Brisbane.png for the same reasons as mentioned above? The admin who deleted the file (East718) has stated on his talk page that he will be inactive for an unspecified amount of time. Thanks – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 09:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I am not going to undelete corporate logos for use in a gallery. It violates the non-free content policy to use them that way. If such galleries exist elsewhere, they shouldn't. — Diannaa (talk) 14:24, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on my understanding of WP:NFCCP, I thought that under the circumstances presented here, such activity was permitted. I believe that the images in question fulfill the ten Non-free content criteria as:
 * 1. There is no free equivalent.
 * 2. They will not be used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted material.
 * 3. There is minimal usage of these images. [on a single article in an image gallery]
 * 4. They have been published or publicly displayed outside Wikipedia by the copyright holder. [images were taken from their respective organisation's websites]
 * 5. They meet general Wikipedia content standards and are encyclopedic. [encyclopedic as they will be used for historical/archival purposes]
 * 6. They meet the Image use policy as they have been previously uploaded with no issues.
 * 7. They will follow the one-article minimum requirement.
 * 8. Their as presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. [images are used in conjunction with a section describing the branding and naming history of each organisation]
 * 9. They will only be used in articles and follow the exemption Object of commentary. [see above]
 * 10. The media description pages will be updated after undeletion to contain:
 * a. Identification of the source of the original copyrighted material with information about the artist, publisher and copyright holder.
 * b. An appropriate copyright tag.
 * c. The name of each article in which fair use is claimed for the item, and a separate, specific and valid non-free use rationale for each use of the item.
 * If there is anything that I am not understanding clearly or have missed, please let me know so that I can correctly understand the situation. Thanks. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 02:35, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * They violate NFCC #1, #3, and #8. The logos don't greatly increase our understanding of the subject of the article (so much so that our understanding is impaired by their omission). And they are replaceable, as the logos can be described using prose. They violate #3, which calls for minimal use of non-free images. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I can understand how they violate #8, but I don;t understand how it violates #1 as there is no free equivalent of these images, or #3 as one image alone cannot convey equivalent significant information due to them all being different logos for different organisation names (names of article subjects have changed over time) and images are low resolution to prevent use in copyright infringement. Also, how is this different from articles such as Domino's Pizza and Pizza Hut that use old logos in their articles with little-to-no description of them (when what I intend is to create a specialised logo history section with explanations of name and logo changes)? – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 03:11, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've already explained myself in detail. I suggest you consider filing at Deletion review. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:15, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * And he's brought it there, if you feel the need to comment further.Regarding the other two images, though - they both look like PD-textlogo's to me, particularly the Adelaide one. I'm not going to undelete them, since you just declined above, but I think they're worth another look. —Cryptic 04:48, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think any of these three are PD-shape or PD-text. See commons:Commons:Threshold of originality. The threshold of originality is very low in Australia. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:07, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

CCI case
Hello, can you please help with a few cleanups on this CCI case? Thank you! —OluwaCurtis »» (talk to me) 08:22, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding username change for another user
Hello, the user StJohns ICT was editing StJohns Catholic School earlier, I believe his name is referring to possibly an I.T. department on school grounds and not a company or brand, just my 2 cents there, thanks. Regards, CoconutPaste (talk) 14:05, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Hellenic Foundation for Culture
Hello Diannaa! Thank you for your message and your recommendations! As I understand I shouldn't take as it is the text from our website to paste it in wikipedia page. However the second time I added references from books of our publications, presidential decrees and notes and interviews from our employees. Maybe just quotes " " could solve the problem? Or I should paraphrase the text? Thank you very much for your time,

Noname11115 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noname11115 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 22 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello Noname11115. Quotation marks don't solve the problem. All content you add to this website has to be written in your own words. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Copyright dispute
Hi Diannaa, I saw that you removed most of the edits I made on the International University Sports Federation. Since I did all this work in the interest of the organisation I am allowed to use all the materials from the website. How do I show you that I have the permission? What I did is restructure the whole article which had been chaos before. Also, before I edited it all of the materials on there were copied and and not marked as quotes and still not removed. I'm not saying that copyright infringement is okay, but there is a huge difference between my edits and the state of the page before my edits. Citizentwo199 (talk) 20:30, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I do realize that you did not add all of the copyright violations (some of it was introduced when the page was created, back in 2006!). The article is clean as of now. The copyright holder may wish to release the material from their website to Wikipedia under a compatible license. The way to do this is to get an OTRS ticket. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for how this is done. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Diannaa! Currently working on it. It says I should put your email in CC when sending the copyright permission. What address can I use? Or should I just notify you here as soon as I sent the email? Citizentwo199 (talk) 10:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The permission email has to go to the OTRS team at the email address permissions-en@wikimedia.org. I am not a member of the OTRS team. There's full instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted materials and there's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa (talk) 14:46, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of that. That's what I'm in the process of doing. But it says: "Please send a copy to the person (if any) you were previously in touch with so they know about it." Who is gonna restore the material when the permission email is sent? Will you be notified by the OTRS team? Citizentwo199 (talk) 15:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If the OTRS team member who reviews the email is an admin, they may restore the material themselves. Otherwise they contact the deleting administrator, who restores the material. I cannot restore the file until an OTRS team member assesses the email, so there's no point sending me a copy of the email. — Diannaa (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Diannaa. The email was sent out last night (CET). I'll now be waiting for further instructions from the OTRS. Citizentwo199 (talk) 10:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to restore the material while adding the "OTRS pending" code to the page? Or does the material have to be reviewed first? Citizentwo199 (talk) 10:39, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Diannaa, I've added an OTRS confirmation notice to the talk page there, all in order on that front. Obviously you'll make your own decision, but I'm in some doubt as to whether the content should be restored; given the "I did all this work in the interest of the organisation" statement above, I believe should perhaps be invited to read about conflict of interest editing. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:59, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I'm sorry if there is the impression of conflict of interest. "Editing in their interest" meant and means to me, that I as an avid supporter of university sports am building up a page as I think it should look like in comparison to the previous version which was not structured well and outdated. I'm sure the organisation is fine with my changes since they also sent the permission email themselves after I asked them. All the editing I made was basic information, nothing controversial which could cause a conflict of interest, no promotion or denigration, no burnishing their image. Citizentwo199 (talk) 12:42, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Further copyright issue: Loan Council
I also object you reverting my extension to the Loan Council article on the basis of copyright. Just because the source claims copyright does not mean that the content itself cannot be used, eg. if it is sufficiently reworded or if it is fair use, etc. I suggest you look at it again and restore the edits. Enthusiast01 (talk) 22:50, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I will not be restoring the material, because the source page http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/rn/2001-02/02rn43.pdf shows the copyright is owned by  Commonwealth of Australia. The content was not re-worded whatsoever, and copying such a large amount is far beyond what is acceptable for fair use, which calls for short, clearly-marked quotations. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Sarabjit Roy
Hi Diannaa! Wondering if the creator of that article is related to WP:LTA/IAC, of whom this name is tightly connected? Crow Caw  21:17, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Could be, I suppose. I don't know much about it though, so you might consider asking one of the people who put together the LTA page to have a look. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Will do, thanks! Crow  Caw  21:27, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

FYI, you were mentioned
Just FYI, I mentioned you on Sockpuppet investigations/David Adam Kess.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 02:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Another one …
Hi, Diannaa! Further to this, acceptable permission has now come through for this one too. Licence is dual, CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL, ticket number is 2015110710013381. Would you be so kind? Many thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:08, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Done, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:24, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Diannaa! However there's a hitch: I didn't know the photo was credited to someone else (Barry Dolton). I've now written to ask for a release from the photographer or clarification of how copyright was transferred. Do you want to un-undelete it until that comes through, or are you happy for it to be tagged as OTRS pending? Sorry about this! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:52, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like it was a work for hire as "Bonesaw" is in the photo, but best to be sure. I will change the tag while you find out. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * All done, the photographer gave permission. Many thanks as always, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:07, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Tame Animal note to William Harris
'morning Canada,

Thanks for you note on my talk page, but I was depending on WP:NOATT - "If the re-user is the sole contributor of the text at the other page, attribution is not necessary." However, your request is now actioned. Regards, William Harris  •   talk •   18:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Your edit triggered a bot report at User:EranBot/Copyright/rc. Even though it's not strictly required by the guideline, would simplify checking the bot report and help you avoid receiving such notices in the future if you could mention the source page in your edit summaries. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:26, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

MorDance
I declined speedy deletion of this article per the review in the NY Times providing a credible assertion of notability. I recognise there are multiple issues with the article and its subject, not least the COI of its creator. BC108 (talk) 23:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Blanking pages nominated for speedy deletion
Hi Diannaa! I noticed that you have blanked some of the pages I had nominated for speedy deletion. I am quite curious why you chose to blank them instead of deleting them, is there something you would like to preserve? Here is a list of the pages:

User talk:Safvansalih User talk:Sajalgauri985 User talk:Saleembhalki User talk:Sanjay mishra1992 User talk:Sarvjeet vishwkarma User talk:Satvirchauhan User talk:Shaktideen User talk:ShantanuDas1997 User talk:Walead20173 User talk:VEER BAHADUR MAURYA User talk:Unais8089850559 User talk:Umair jan User talk:Surajmatkar User talk:Surajkamboj User talk:Sudhakrkashyap User talk:Shyam rojghar User talk:Rushikesh Borkar User talk:Rishi4933 User talk:Ramji.ramjis User talk:R3 rahul User talk:R.SHANKER User talk:Prasant Kumar sahu User talk:Nitya1587 User talk:Nagn90 User talk:Mr.Muneersha User talk:Moin Siddiqui Rudauli User talk:Mohammod sohag User talk:MANJESH MULLASSERY User talk:Ullahking User talk:Karthik clt User talk:Karatesanjiv's User talk:Kamleshmittra User talk:HARISH JANGIR User talk:Ersenthilkumaranv User talk:Ajitkumarsen

I am trying to make the list in the collapse template on this page a bit shorter.

The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * User talk pages are not normally deleted. These are not advertising as such, but are personal details. There's no need to delete. — Diannaa (talk) 08:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Jack Breheny photo
Hi Diannaa,

A photo of Jack Breheny that I uploaded to his article was deleted in December. Arnold Rowlands took the photo, so I gave him attribution, but Arnold has been dead several years and his slides are now in my possession. So what is the best way to put the photo back?
 * Possession of the photos is not the same as holding the copyright. According to copyright law, for works with a known author with a known date of death, the copyright expires 70 years after the death of author. — Diannaa (talk) 08:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Bill Burr & Monday Morning Podcast
The Image is a free to use image, and I have consent to use the image by the author a well, which has been sent to wiki permissions!

your consent deletion is inconsistent

The Bugle: Issue CXVIII, January 2016
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 11:23, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Hello how are you?, I have a complaint about the IP troll here, here operation out of UAE (for accuracy he is a Syrian resident in the UAE), He used to caused a month of extensive disruption and some fifty thousand ranged block IPs and targets articles about Christianity articles as user:Jeppiz show here and here the user is pushing an anti-Christian and pro-Muslim POV on several articles, this user and IP troll was blocked the arabic wikipeida months ago for his vandalism and insults, besides racism and disruptive comments relating in particular to the Christian articles in Arabic Wikipedia. and he has also more than 53 sockpuppeteers. - you can ask the admains of the arabic wikipeida as user:باسم and Meno25 about this IP troll.

Now im facing harassment and personal attack from him, in my personal page and talk page, and Mia Khalifa talk page. he sended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0rMEBan4Nc&app=desktop this video that he create] for me [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=User_talk%3AJobas&type=revision&diff=697625490&oldid=696495263 here], I'm asking to protect both my personal page and talk page and Mia Khalifa talk page (he called me pervert there).


 * There is something draws my attention, his sudden appearance (after few hours after the complaint Xtremedood filed), and his strong defense of the user:Xtremedood, after i brougth up the sockpuppet of user:Xtremedood, and accusing the User:Capitals00 (who had a problem recently with user:Xtremedood) having sockpuppet, the same accusing that user:Xtremedood did. I think it's a strange thing that this IP defend in that strong way of the user:Xtremedood (who by the way is an active sock-puppeteer who has operated at least three others accounts as well as several IPs).
 * Thank and have a nice day.--Jobas (talk) 13:52, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have semi-protected your user page; that's all I am going to do. User talk pages and article talk pages are not normally protected. The IPs are both blocked. — Diannaa (talk) 00:30, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello sorry for asking again, The IP from UAE back agia with the personal attack. Can you block this IP here. Thank you and have a nice day.--Jobas (talk) 23:17, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry agian to ask agian. He is backing and he not leaving me in peace here, with his personal attack as calling me pervert.--Jobas (talk) 23:46, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've semi-protected Talk:Mia Khalifa but I see he popped up on still another page. Please post here if he continues; I will be here for another two hours. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much Diannaa, I do appreciate it. Have a nice day.--Jobas (talk) 23:53, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * He is going now to other user pages. telling lies about me. will sound he is not leaving me in peace.--Jobas (talk) 11:58, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Part of the reason he keeps doing this is because he sees how much he is upsetting you. So I suggest that you revert his posts without comment. There's no need to refute his posts, as any sensible person can see them for what they are: harassment. Blocks appear to be pointless, as he seems to have an unlimited access to IPs. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:44, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Your point is rigth. Have a nice a day.--Jobas (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Request of semi-protection
Hi, it's me again. Sorry to bother you, but I require your assistance again as I'm facing disrupting editing made by the same anonymous user, this time on this page. It's really annoying that it won't even try to answer on his talk page about his activities. Could you do something, please?--Dk1919 (talk) 06:41, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Right now this looks like a content dispute. Pages are not protected for that reason. Please try discussing the matter on the article talk page first. — Diannaa (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Kanikai Sami
You deleted some copyright violations from this page. Does the deleted page currently appear on the page Kanikasamy? --Stefan2 (talk) 14:07, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello Diannaa

I was just curious why a section was delete from the page Kanikasamy,  That is not copyright information and not sure how was that classified. Please advise how can i get that content back Thanks


 * The information was copied from a museum document, which is copyright. We can't reproduce it here without the copyright holder's permission. — Diannaa (talk) 14:59, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Otto Steinhäusl
D -- I can't get the photo caption to sit correctly; do you mind having a look? Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 15:33, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kierzek (talk) 11:45, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Book with multiple authors, single topic
Hi Diannaa! I wanted to reference this book:
 * The Fatal Decisions. With a commentary by Lieutenant General Siegfried Westphal. (Edited by William Richardson and Seymour Freidin. Translated from the German by Constantine FitzGibbon. With an introduction by Cyril Falls.) [By Werner Kreipe and others.]. William Holt RICHARDSON, and FREIDIN (Seymour); Cyril Bentham FALLS; Constantine FitzGibbon; Seymour FREIDIN; Werner KREIPE; Siegfried Westphal, World Distributors: London, 1965.

but am at a loss for how one goes about it. Six authors (Werner Kreipe and others), two editors, one translator, and one guy writing intro commentaries to each section. If you could provide a little guidance it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Gunbirddriver (talk) 17:03, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Have a look at Auschwitz concentration camp, where the book Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp is used as a source multiple times. Each chapter has a different author, so the book had to be listed multiple times. For example, the chapter written by Robert J. Lifton:

The chapter written by Gutman:

If you wish to source something to the introductory material, put it in the  field, for example,   and list as author the author of the introduction rather than the author of the chapter. Here is some mark-up to get you started:

— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:58, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks much!! Gunbirddriver (talk) 23:03, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Reinhard Heydrich
D -- I recall you have the Shirer book; someone is calling into question his number claim as cited to the Einsatzgruppen; although, what is in the article is a common number - "over one million". Kierzek (talk) 11:44, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi K. The source is the Rhodes book, which gets the data from Hilberg. Hilberg trumps Shirer, as more data came out later, once the Iron Curtain came down. I have amended the article. — Diannaa (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking; I will say that others sources still use the "over one million" number; the exact number will never be known. Kierzek (talk) 15:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If you have time and interest to dig out those other sources, we could always revise again. They could just be citing Shirer though, as he was considered the last word on the subject for many years. — Diannaa (talk) 15:09, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the current RS cited estimate you added is sufficient. Of course the "one million" number is a common estimate for the number of Jews which were killed and the "over", is what it is. Kierzek (talk) 15:38, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

The Famous Ferguson Case
Hi,

I thought I had edited the plot synopsis enough to not be plagarism. I apologise to Wikipedia for inadvertant plagarism. Editing is clumsy for me right now, as I have to do all my online work on an old Nook and can't use word processing and must type everything with a stylus.

I went back to try to fix the unoriginal bits (my goal was just to use the TCM stuff as an outline), but it's completely gone. Is there any way you could send me what I posted so I could fix it and repost once I'm sure? -- I can't save anything to this device, so I don't have a copy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olef641 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The material you added was almost identical to the source webpage. What you need to do is write the synopsis using your own words. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:30, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Additions to page on Bhai Randhir Singh
Got your message on the reversal of changes I made to the page on Bhai Randhir Singh. The intention of the changes was to replicate on Wikipedia (with some alterations) the publicly available content on this personality - all of which quote from the same copyright. The source page that you have mentioned my content is copied from, has itself replicated the content from another website. Once again, the intention of the update to this page was not to reinvent or create brand new content for publishing, but to improve and provide on Wikipedia the "same content" available on lesser known sources (with due citations and links to these sources).

Also, the changes I had made that were not from this source, but were compiled originally, have also been removed.

Just as the other websites provide the copyright information in their bibliography, is it not possible to do the same on this Wikipedia page? The person this page is dedicated to is my great grandfather and I am very anxious to provide a decent Wikipedia page for him. I will look forward to your reply.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dipeshwar.singh (talk • contribs) 06:02, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Being publicly available is not the same thing as being in the public domain, Prose you find online is almost always copyright, and cannot be copied here; it's against the law to do so. All prose must be written in your own words. There's more information about copyrights and how it applies to Wikipedia at FAQ/Copyright. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:32, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Your namesake the princess
Thank you for doing the revdeletion there (and in all the other places where you've done it), and for blocking the culprit. However, I've messed up: I completely underestimated the extent of the problem and didn't get anywhere near all of it. The same editor has added innumerable copyvios there. So far, I've got as far back as, from here, but I've no confidence that's the end of it. So could I ask your advice? Do you think it'd now be better to blank and list this, or keep looking until I find his/her first substantial edit and roll back to there? I'd hoped to avoid blanking such a high-profile article, but I now think that that could have been a wrong call. Thoughts? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * His first substantial edit was way back in 2012. I think the best way to handle it is to do a clean-up of this high-profile article. To that end, I have put a mini-CCI in User:Diannaa/sandbox. The edits that need to be checked are the ones in Bold (142 of them). I have to go to the gym now, and will start when I get back. Once I've completed the task we can decide on where the cutoff is for further revision-deletion. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:28, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, of course that's the most energy-efficient way of doing it, why didn't I think of it? (and why doesn't the Isolate button in the revision history actually DO anything?) I've done a slightly different version here, listing only edits over 200 bytes and numbering them (because I kept losing track). I'm moderately certain of two things: that this, which I cited above as a source of copyvio, is in fact copied from us (and liberally pasted with copyright notices into the bargain); and two, more to the point, that the first "bad" edit in this series is, 297 bytes on 14 April 2012, #7 in my list; the sentence "The Spencer coat of arms came into existence centuries ago" was here in 2004. The article seems to have been in pretty good shape at that time, which is a relief. As far as I can see the only "real" hits in Earwig are 6 and 10, and the overlap in both is mostly in quoted material. Do you agree, I wonder? Thanks, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:28, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just got back from the gym, and have discovered the same thing: The coat of arms diff is the first sketchy edit. Earwig will not locate overlapping material where the source link has gone dead (or is archived). Going through the edits one at a time will give a feel for the user's competency in the language and make copyvios easier to detect, even when the source material is not cited or irretrievably 404. I have removed the revision-deletion temporarily to make the diffs easier to assess. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:39, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just got in. Heavens, I now see what you are doing (I'd wondered why you'd unhidden the history!). I was just going to roll it straight back to the last clean version, update the infobox and footer material, ask you to revdelete, and leave it at that … I feel bad, I had no intention of asking you to take on such a mammoth task. If there's any left to do I'll try to do some of it tomorrow; but right now it's time for the arms of Murphy (as they say in Ireland). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:30, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I got about a quarter of it done, and will resume tomorrow. If you want to work on it in the morning, you can start at diff #42 on your list, or work from the set in my sandbox, from which I have removed the completed diffs. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:30, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I did a few, working backwards rather than forwards. What I'm thinking now is this: essentially, everything added by that editor is copyvio (partly because there's probably a language competence problem there); checking every addition against the sources is an unreasonable amount of work; if you felt like opening the CCI, we could presumptively remove all his/her additions, which would still be time-consuming, but much less so. Though actually, for what it's worth, I still think that rolling it back to the last clean version is the best solution. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Copy vio is an impossibly huge problem, no matter how one decides to tackle it. Did you know, I am currently the only person currently working on the WP:CCI cases? So opening a case doesn't change things much. I just thought it would be best to get this one high-profile article promptly cleaned, while doing the smallest amount of disruption to other people's edits. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Speaking of revdel, can you also fix this one? Thanks.   Montanabw (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Logging off now, ttyl. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:12, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks...again
thanks for your tireless efforts on copyright concerns, Eranbot in particular. Thanks for your continued interest and dedication to this project. (Curious, where in Alberta do you live. Coffee sometime?  Email me to maintain confidentiality.  I'm in to Kootenays.)--Lucas559 (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the positive feedback, Lucas. I live near Edmonton. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I was just wondering...
I noticed that you left a message about attribution at User talk:Enthusiast, which is a redirect from User talk:Enthusiast01. Enthusiast has only made 3 edits, in August last year, while Enthusiast01 has made more than 41,000. If all of the messages are going on the Enthusiast talk page, isn't it likely that Enthusiast01 is seeing none of them unless he has that page on his watchlist? Enthusiast01 is copying and pasting a lot of content, including bad references, into Postal service in Australia and still isn't providing attribution. It's been a pain fixing the bad cites and then having to search for the articles from which he's copied them so that I can fix the cites there. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 06:23, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The user himself created the redirect, so I assumed he is indeed reading the messages. I have sent him an email asking him to confirm. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 07:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought he might just be trying to avoid talk page messages. He doesn't seem to abide by requests. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 09:17, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * He says via email that he moved the page to get rid of the "01". As there was no conflicting page history, I was able to move the page back to its proper location. I've also urged him via email to read and acknowledge the messages under the section headers "Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution" and "Postal service in Australia". — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 17:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

The Spanish Inquisition
The edit summary here made me laugh, thanks! Jeppiz (talk) 23:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Glad you saw it. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:08, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Sammy Figueroa


Hi Diannaa. Thank you for the revdels. On Sammy Figueroa I used the incorrect end revision number, so enough of the history did not get deleted. This revision introduced the copyvio. After further investigation, I have comcerns about the first revision of the article. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:28, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The source page http://www.concertboom.com/sammyfigueroa/tour-dates/ is titled "Tour dates 2016" so it's likely they copied from us. I have rev-deleted from this revision. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:08, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

MariaJaydHicky’s new one
I think the banned user has a new one User:Smoovez. 115.164.209.127 (talk) 04:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * yes, I see two of her "tells" for sure. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 05:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Revdel request
Hello Diannaa, could you revdel this edit on my user talkpage please? Just a troll, but I don't need that kind of crap in my userspace. Thank you in advance. GermanJoe (talk) 07:08, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail
Elizium23 (talk) 16:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The mail did not arrive, Elizium23. Please re-send. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The "email this user" feature simply does not seem to be working for me. So I'll put it out here. I have a WP:REVDEL request for all edits here on User talk:Engleham. Attempted WP:OUTING, personal attacks, all kinds of things, all while this user is blocked, to boot! Elizium23 (talk) 20:41, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please check and make sure I went back far enough. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Actually it goes back 52 revisions, starting with this one. Elizium23 (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, all done. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That did the trick! Thanks so much. Elizium23 (talk) 22:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Copy vio
Could you check this page Kandukuri Veeresalingam for some copy vio.-- Vin09 &thinsp; (talk)   10:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Good catch, Vin09. I was able to save the article by rolling back to a prior version. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:36, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Unresponsive birth date vandal
You might like to revisit your protection of Freddy Cannon and Dave Bartholomew. I'm starting to get a little fed up with this. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Two weeks. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:50, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Educatedblkman1914
What is the procedure at this point for him to appeal his ban and/or certify that he has read specific policies.Naraht (talk) 21:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The user is blocked, not banned (there's a difference). What he has to do to regain editing privileges is to convince us that he has read and understood our copyright policy and intends to carefully comply with it in the future. More advice can be found at Guide to appealing blocks. -- — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:48, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

File deleted despite permission
Hi Diannaa. You had requested that a permission be sent for each image in the collage "Chitta Kukkad Music Team.jpg" on the page Chitta Kukkad. The owner Parichay told me that he sent in the permission letter on February 2 to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, however the collage was still deleted. Please clarify; thanks. Django48 (talk) 14:22, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It was deleted by mistake. I have now restored the file. — Diannaa (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Django48 (talk) 16:58, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Germany or Nazi Germany?
Do you have an opinion about this RFC? You may be interested so I am passing it along. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 21:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Dongseo University Images
Hello Diannaa, I'm sorry to bother you with this again since you appropriately directed me the last time I wrote you to the editor who removed the images from the page for Dongseo University. That editor advised me to wait, and I have been waiting for what seems like a long time. Now I cannot find how to contact that editor again. The situation is that I sent an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org on December 10, 2015, from my email address affiliated with the university to establish that I am authorized to upload the images posted. I am hoping these images can be restored to the page. Please advise on how this can be accomplished. Thank you for your time.Keir Thornburg 02:13, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Keir Thornburg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keir Thornburg (talk • contribs)
 * The deleting administrator was user:Explicit. I cannot help you myself, as I was not the deleting administrator, and I do not have OTRS permissions and thus cannot view your email or add the OTRS tags. — Diannaa (talk) 02:24, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yikes. As much as there is a backlog at OTRS, this seems like an unreasonably long wait for something that should have gone through with ease. I'll see if I can get an OTRS volunteer to look into this. — <font color="6A5ACD">ξ xplicit  02:33, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 02:34, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Marcus Simaika
Hi Diannaa. You had written to me regarding copyright for the picture of Marcus Simaika which I had wanted to upload onto Marcus Simaika's page. You gave me e-mail address which deals with publication permission. I wrote to those guys well over three weeks ago and got an automatic acknowledgement that my email has been received. They never wrote back to me. I sent them a reminder two weeks ago but they never wrote back.

What else can I now do to get the picture of Marcus Simaika uploaded on his page?

Thank you

Youssef — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youssef simaika (talk • contribs) 15:32, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 18:14, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Banff Centre Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon
Hi Diannaa, would you be interested/able to help out some new editors at the Meetup/Banff/ArtAndFeminism 2016/The Banff Centre event on March 5? They would greatly benefit from the assistance of a highly experienced Wikipedian in the room; if you'd like, I'd be glad to put you in touch directly with the Banff event organizers.--Pharos (talk) 12:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me know if this is interesting at all to you, or if you're unsure and would like to talk it over sometime. In-person outreach to new editors can sometimes be a welcome and refreshing break from workaday editing.--Pharos (talk) 20:10, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the invitation. I won't be able to be in Banff on that date. — Diannaa (talk) 20:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

24.3.21.159
Could you have a word with this user regarding their edits on the WLVA page? I have tried to explain to them OR and RS, but they don't seem to be listening. I am low on patience today, so I am handing this one off. Thank you in advance. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #FF7518;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 16:22, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ...and now we have personal attacks. Minor ones, but PAs none-the-less. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #FF7518;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 16:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like Drmies warned for the personal attack, and another user has somehow verified these citations, — Diannaa (talk) 19:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned to Drmies, I went through the sources added by and  and found all but one of the "Variety" sources were just "thrown in".  When you clicked on the links to the Variety articles, and went to the page in the reference, there was nothing regarding WLVA (except for one).


 * Seeing that, I went through and checked all of the sources and none of the others had any issues. It's clear that User:me_and and User:24.3.21.159 tried to add fake sources/links to the article thinking no one would check. I'll leave it up to you, but I think a block (a short one) is in order. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #FF7518;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 00:58, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I really don't understand why you object to the Variety sources. I've put some more detail about exactly how you can verify the sources for yourself at Talk:WLVA, but I'm very confident the sources are good, and I'm really struggling to see what's causing you so much difficulty in checking them for yourself. I'd suggest moving this discussion to the article talk page, rather than spreading it out over four different editors' talk pages. —me_and 12:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of page without reason
Hi Diannaa,

I just wanted to check with you why my page was deleted as there was no reason left behind before you deleted it. It had been moved as requested and then suddenly deleted.

RaniaD87 (talk) 13:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It was deleted as a copyright violation. You had stated you intended to add a license to the source page, but at the time I deleted the draft the license had not yet been added. I am restoring the draft, at Draft:Homa Farley, because the license has now been added to the source page. — Diannaa (talk) 14:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Guatemalan vandal again
, this time I waited to see what if the IP learned anything from previous blocks, but nope, again with the false date changing. Erick (talk) 18:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Combining with the previous IP 190.104.120.240 we get the range 190.104.120.128/25 (128 IPs). Blocking for one month to start. No one else is editing from this range. — Diannaa (talk) 19:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * is another IP that is active and making the disruptive editing. Erick (talk) 18:43, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I am widening the range to 190.104.120.0/24 (256 possible IPs). No one else is using this range. — Diannaa (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Copyvio
I can see that there exists some copyvio at Maddi Anjaneya Temple. Could you check it if you are free.-- Vin09 &thinsp; (talk)   12:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Cleaned. Thank you for reporting. — Diannaa (talk) 14:24, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Revised Code Biology page (10 Feb 2016)
I (Marcello Barbieri) am the owner and the copyright holder of the website www.codebiology.org  and I declare that in the article “Code Biology” submitted to Wikipedia I have used the material contained in that website only as a source of information, not as a source of content. To my knowledge all sentences have been expressed in new terms. I am willing furthermore to give Wikipedia any license that may be necessary for donating copyrighted material to Wikipedia. Yours faithfully Marcello Barbieri Marcello Barbieri (talk) 18:41, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

IP that has been disrupting the F1 project.
Hi Diannaa. I don't know whether you remember this, but three months ago you blocked two IP ranges who were disrupting articles on Formula One. Unfortunately, the IP resumed their activity as soon as the blocks expired and have continued ever since. We have tried to talk with them, but they just don't want to listen. After all these months, we are now really running out of inspiration to keep dealing with this continuous disruption. We are really at loss now what we can do to protect our project from this. The IP ranges in question are 91.21.200 and 88.106.200. One our project members has been listing them. Tvx1 00:34, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have looked at some of the recent edits such as and  and  am not seeing anything egregiously bad enough for a block. Other people are using both ranges, which are 92.21.240.0/20 and 88.106.224.0/20. — Diannaa (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This diff is more typical. A couple of other editors and myself have (it seems) being working almost full time on tidying up after his editing blitzes. Little of what he does has any merit and despite pleas, he just will not stop. Eagleash (talk) 01:13, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * And they also have the habit of creating drafts and then resubmitting them after they were declined without addressing the actual issues. Here is an example. By the way you checked is actually one of string of edits on that article removing a ref improve tag without actually adding refs. Tvx1 02:35, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Question about Deletion of Page 'Cheryl and Henry Kloppenburg Award for Literary Excellence'
Hi Diannaa. I am in charge of web presence for the Saskatchewan Writers' Guild and I was asked to find out what had happened to the Kloppenburg Award wiki entry (which was created before I had this position, so I don't know much about the article). It says you deleted it due to copyright infringement with the Saskatchewan Writers' Guild website. As I never saw this wiki page I don't know for sure what it said, but I believe whoever the original creator was had permission from the SWG ED to use our text for the article as we administer this award. Could you let me know if it's possible to have the article reviewed and possibly reinstated? Thank you so much for your help. S Workman. Sworkman (talk) 18:30, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 20:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for pointing out the potential copyright issue. I will address it. Lslong427 (talk) 20:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

RevDel request
Do you think this qualifies for RevDel? It violates the BLP policy. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 18:34, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thanks for reporting. — Diannaa (talk) 18:38, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Censorship censorship
Hey there,

It's been a while since I've done much on Wikipedia, but I'm noticing now that the pages I authored a while back on some classic Merry Melodies cartoons (Don't Give Up the Sheep, Sheep Ahoy, A Sheep in the Deep, and Ready, Woolen and Able) have been edited to remove fair-use images depicting censorship in the episodes (,, , and ). As a result, the images got orphaned and deleted; three out of four of them were deleted by you.

Deleting the histories of censorship seems sketchy to me, especially since the user first retitled all the sections from "Censorship" to "Edited Version", arguably trivializing the details, and then came back months later to delete the whole section, citing the sections were minor trivia.

The only reason the images were deleted is because they weren't being referenced anymore, so I was wondering if, if I restored the "Censorship" sections, you'd be willing to undelete the related images. —Skrapion (talk) 20:48, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I was not involved in the editorial decision to remove the images and related prose; I only deleted some of the orphaned images. The place to start is to talk to the user who removed the content, and/or open a discussion on the talk pages of the involved articles. — Diannaa (talk) 20:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia and copyright
Hi Diannaa,

Thanks for the info on contributing. In the case of the page I was updating, the source material actually comes from the author herself, which is provided to other website of conferences she attends. How would I handle that situation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GravitationalWavesAreReal (talk • contribs) 20:00, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If the copyright holder wishes to release the material to Wikipedia under license, they need to follow the instructions at Donating copyrighted materials. There's a sample permission email at WP:consent. -- — Diannaa (talk) 20:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Arm-culture.png
Are you sure that the "no source" tag really is correct? The file links to another file on Wikipedia. Based on the other file's original upload log, there were three uploads under that name to Wikipedia, and it's possible that File:Arm-culture.png was cropped from one of those. The F8 deletion of File:Stgregoryilluminator.jpg doesn't seem to have been entirely within policy since F8 only covers the file revisions which are on Commons or which are lower resolution copies of file revisions on Commons, so maybe there are file revisions to undelete and move elsewhere. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The two uploads by user:Vital Component were of this image, which is not a medieval icon, but a modern drawing. We know nothing about the authorship or copyright status of that image. That's the image now present (in a cropped version) at File:Arm-culture.png. The second image, now present at File:Stgregoryilluminator.jpg, does not have adequate source information either, but at least it does appear to be a genuine XIV century Byzantine icon. — Diannaa (talk) 22:46, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks a bit too recent to be from the 14th century, yes. So there's no useful information in the deleted revisions of the file information page of the other file? --Stefan2 (talk) 23:14, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * user:Eupator copied his version from the Russian wiki, offering this link: ru:Григорий Просветитель. — Diannaa (talk) 23:17, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The file in question appears to be cropped from an image of which a version has been on the Italian Wikipedia since 2006, but its reported source is a dead link (which, however, can still be found in the Wayback Machine; it was apparently in a subdomain belonging to a church in Roswell, Georgia). The itWP file-page claims it’s over a century old and qualifies as PD-Art. TinEye finds prints being sold by an outfit called ArchangelsBooks.com, but they don’t say anything about the date or authorship there; their home-page says only “Many of our products (whether books, music or icons) come from Orthodox monasteries.”—Odysseus 1 4  7  9  00:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Why blanked instead of deleted?
Can you explain why pages User:27Rampd and User:Miranda.Salt were blanked instead of deleted?
 * WHat difference does it make? Deleted pages don't actually go anywhere; they are merely hidden from view. — Diannaa (talk) 15:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

NSW Environment Protection Authority
I created a page for the EPA in consultation with the Strategic Engagement and Governance Branch of the Authority. I am also an employee. The page has been removed for copyright infringement, with the EPA Annual Report cited as the source of the infringement. We have permission from the organisation to use the material, and we have referenced the Annual Report.

We wish factual information about the EPA to be available on Wikipedia as we recognise it is an important reference work.

Can the page please be reinstated, or more specific information provided on what needs to be rewritten given we have permission to use the Annual Report. Kagey2005 (talk) 11:40, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The material is copyright, and cannot be added here without the written permission of the copyright holder. If the copyright holder wishes to donate the material to Wikipedia under license, please see the instructions at Donating copyrighted materials as to how to get an OTRS ticket in place. There's a sample permission email at WP:consent. There's more information on your talk page, and about conflict of interest and how it applies to Wikipedia. — Diannaa (talk) 14:37, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Problems with student editors from the university of Missouri
Hi Dianna. and are students enrolled at the  Wiki Ed/University of Missouri/CL HUM 3250 Epic (Spring 2016). Amongst their regular course activities they have also taken to editing, an article which I created and I am the major contributor of. A few days after I reverted Jjdgzd for adding a cellphone picture to the article, Kcsf4c adds another problematic picture to the article while also adding copy-paste accusations in his edit-summary because he mistook a Wikipedia mirror for the real thing. Please see also my note on Kcsf4c's talk. I am not asking for any action on your part yet but I would just like to make you aware of all these coincidences. Best regards. Dr.  K.  05:52, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Trotting by
I've had Runhappy at RPP for a little while, but there appears to be a backlog and the damn IPs (there are two at the moment, both from the same geographic area) just won't drop the stick. Can you semi-protect this ASAP? Don't know if you can also block at least the 72.182.105.185 IP who appears to be the worst offender, but maybe consider it. Thanks! Montanabw (talk) 06:37, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Review of your block on Shootingstar88
The review is at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. A WP:Permalink is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:45, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Reply on File permission problem with File:Biblica Headquarters in Colorado Springs.jpg
Hi, I have submitted the required permission for use of the photo to the email permissions-en@wikimedia.org

Please let me know if there is anything else I should do.

Aurelius139 (talk) 16:42, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Aurelius139. I have removed the speedy deletion tag and added an OTRS pending template to the page. It may take a while for the permission email to be matched up with the file, as the OTRS team has a heavy backlog right now. Thanks for taking care of this. — Diannaa (talk) 16:46, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you Diannaa! Aurelius139 (talk) 17:50, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Colombo Plan
Hi Diannaa,

Thank you for leaving a message for me regarding my edits on Colombo Plan. I wish to inform you that I work with Colombo Plan and had been reponsible for developing couple of literature for the organisation in the past years. The addition to the page was from a literature we developed last year, but sadly it's not online on a public forum. However, if I can still quote the literature without an online link, I would still do it. I assure you that the information I added to the page is from what Colombo Plan distributes to the public. You may also check past edits I made.

I do understand plagiarism and about rightfully quoting the source. I assure you I wouldn't plagirise.

Thank you. Dichen Di Choden (talk) 06:44, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Dichen Di Choden. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder or have their permission, unless special licensing permissions are in place. The way to do that is for the copyright holder to release the material to Wikipedia under license, following the instructions at WP:donating copyrighted materials. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa (talk) 14:29, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Everything was copy vio, so I have now deleted it. — Diannaa (talk) 14:43, 21 February 2016 (UTC) Adding: A trusted user has now re-created the page. The current version is free of copyright violations. — Diannaa (talk) 15:32, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Karl Wolff
Hi, since you have a lot of experience with copyvios, could you have a look here -- Matched content -- and advise. If this is indeed a copyvio, it would necessitate removal of large portion of the article, so I want to double check. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:04, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Noel Ignatiev
Obviously I have touched on a delicate issue and I am causing some discomfort here because I have had one member using abusive language and saying sources such as Washington Times are unreliable, and now I have this, people have quoted news sources in several Wikipedia articles I have read and never seen the text being removed, but I guess somebody is following an agenda here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.10.79 (talk) 05:41, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please post your comments on the article talk page, not here. I have never edited this article and have no intention of doing so. I did some revision-deletion for copyright violations, that's all. — Diannaa (talk) 14:19, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Reason for deletion of page?
Hello Diannaa, I wanted to ask the reasons why you nominated to speedy deletion the article of L.A.D.D.E.R. project? And what would be suggested to retrieve and improve it? Thanks in advance! User:RiveraGt16 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:56, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi RiveraGt16. The article was deleted as being not notable enough, as Wikipedia defines it, to qualify for an article. The norability requirements for organizations are at Notability (organizations and companies). As a general rule of thumb, what we need are at least three instances of in-depth coverage in sources independent of the organization to establish notability. — Diannaa (talk) 14:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Saudi-led attack on Yemen
Good work on removing all the copyrighted stuff, though I'm sure it must be a chore. I got an indicator of just how much the article consisted of copy-paste when I switched curly quotes to straight quotes – article size reduced by 256. It's not too much of an exaggeration to claim the whole thing needs to be rewritten! I might take the copyright-vio version of the article, dump it in sandbox, do the necessary rewrite, then put it back. If that makes sense. Anyway, good work. --BowlAndSpoon (talk) 08:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please don't place copyright material in a sandbox; that's a copyright violation too. You will have to store it off-wiki in a text file. Thank you, — Diannaa (talk) 08:42, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Junker Schools
Hi Diannaa - I've created a preliminary Junker Schools page in English but I have no idea how to make the German spelling Junkerschulen on the English Wiki redirect to that page nor much else. While I have plenty of content editing practice, I am a novice when it comes to creating pages. There are no pictures or any other cool Wiki-stuff on the page as it stands. Perhaps you and or anyone else with content expertise on the Third Reich plus editorial expertise of this nature can make this page dance. It's rather like a nerd at a middle-school dance presently, watching all the "cool" people with their good looks and in their fancy clothes, while he/she stands awkwardly unnoticed.--Obenritter (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Pretty sweet little article. Thank you for getting it started. I have added inter-wiki links and made a redirect and added a Bundesarchiv Bild. I have added links to other articles that point to the new article. Just FYI, we are all pretty nerdy here . — Diannaa (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, nice addition. Kierzek (talk) 22:33, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks folks. Yes I know we're all nerds -- hence my description of a middle-school dance. When I get a chance, I will fatten the content up a bit but feel free to dance with me.--Obenritter (talk) 22:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Consumer Project Consultation
Hi Diannaa - I'm working on a project with a couple friends to crowd-source information about consumer brands to allow people to more easily make informed purchases. We're planning to have a moderator community on the site, but haven't worked out exactly how it should function yet. You obviously have significant experience in moderating. I would love to pick your brain for a half an hour or so if you would be willing.Megaryel (talk) 03:40, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Megaryel, I actually don't have any experience moderating or helping new users. You'd be better served getting someone else. — Diannaa (talk) 14:21, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I should've have said administrating. I want to have a brief conversation around your experience as a Wikipedia Administrator. So what is the experience like when someone edits a page - what do you like/not like about it, what tools do you have as an admin, etc. Would love to get your insight. Megaryel (talk) 17:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like you are interested in getting free help in setting up a website. Sorry, I am not interested in helping. — Diannaa (talk) 18:35, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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The princess again
I don't think I ever told you how impressed I was at the huge time and effort you put into cleaning up the page on your namesake, but … well, I was! On that topic, this looks more than a little like block evasion. What do you think? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:15, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. I agree this peculiar set of interests points to socking and have blocked the IP for a week. I've reversed his edits to Diana, Princess of Wales, as the odds that he actually viewed that Williamson source are pretty much zero; the article was published in a magazine in 1981 and is not available online. — Diannaa (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Your contributions in "Saudi led intervention in Yemen"
Hey Dianna! Thank you for your contributions, but I have a question as a beginner in Wikipedia, what is the difference between Copy right violation, and copy right content, because I saw more than 30 removed contributions in that topic because of "Copy right content", and how can I prevent breaking that law?, thank you. YemArabSf (talk) 16:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * YemArabSf, when someone adds copyright content to a Wikipedia article without the copyright holder's permission, they have committed a copyright violation. An edit summary that says "removing copyright content" is just a different way of saying "removing a copyright violation". For more information on copyright and how it applies to Wikipedia, please see the policy page WP:Copyrights and the guideline Plagiarism. Hope this helps. — Diannaa (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

A question regarding the edits on Adris grupa entry
Hey Diannaa, thank you for your feedback regarding the edits for the Adris Grupa entry. I've submitted a modified, paraphrased version of the edits to the Talk page of the Adris grupa entry (in order to avoid any further re-edits of the live page) more than a week ago and have not received any feedback - I was just wondering if this is the proper procedure if I want to avoid live editing until I'm sure the edits will be approved, and how soon I can expect any sort of feedback. Esplanada2016 (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Like many parts of the wiki, there's an enormous backlog of requested edits. I've gone ahead and implemented it for you so you don't have to wait any more. — Diannaa (talk) 15:08, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Fukushima Youth Orchestra draft deletion
Hi, I represent a British NPO Keys Of Change (http://www.keysofchange.org) and the Fukushima Youth Orchestra and I am writing to you regarding the deletion of the Fukushima Youth Orchestra draft deletion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fukushima_Youth_Sinfonietta).

We 're fairly inexperienced in this, and from what I read, the inclusion of an ongoing Kickstarter campaign is prohibited. We would be grateful if you could undelete the draft and we will of course remove anything that violated the rules.

Again we're sorry that we broke the rules but it was not intentional.

Please let me know if there is anything else to do on our behalf. Thanks in advance, Vasileios. Beijiru (talk) 10:57, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Beijiru: I have restored the page and removed the copyright material copied from the Kickstarter page. Draft:Fukushima Youth Sinfonietta. There's not much left. — Diannaa (talk) 14:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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Any ideas?
Well, what to do here: and note. Can a rangeblock on IP addresses stop a person from creating what looks like about 38 or 40 accounts since the first of this month? Montanabw (talk) 17:41, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Montanabw. I can't help with range blocks here, because I don't know what the underlying IPs are. It might be possible though, if they are not using proxies. Try asking one of the recent check-users who worked on the SPI (Courcelles, DoRD, Bbb23, etc.) — Diannaa (talk) 18:27, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * OK. So it is technically possible, though?   Montanabw (talk) 01:02, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I suppose so, as long as "Block account creation" is selected while laying down the block. — Diannaa (talk) 01:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Copyright infringment?
You have no basis for deleting a page of a performing artist who has major songwriting credit. The alleged infringement does not discredit the performing artist being a true person. Tturane (talk) 03:38, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Bellerby & Co image permissions query
Hi Diannaa thanks for your image queries concerning this page but all original permission emails were already attached to each image under the details section - please scroll right down. Can you kindly remove deletion tags. Thanks. Bumbledog (talk) 07:00, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Bumbledog. That's not the way to do it. The permission emails need to be sent by the copyright holders directly to the OTRS team. They also need to specify which license they are releasing the images under. There's instrucions at WP:donating copyrighted materials and a sample permission email at WP:consent. — Diannaa (talk) 15:00, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Shootingstar88 and Charlotte135
As is clear by this section, Charlotte135 is only interested in the Shootingstar88 case, not copyright cleanup in general. And I was very clear about why this is; I noted that it was a huge mistake to encourage this person getting involved. I am very serious about Charlotte135 not being involved in matters concerning Shootingstar88, or matters concerning me, including inaccurately portraying me on the Charlotte135 talk page. The topic ban that was placed on Charlotte135 is clear about why I feel this way. Charlotte135 plays the victim at every turn, misrepresents things at every turn, and is not an unbiased editor with regard to Shootingstar88. I know that you stated (on the Charlotte135 talk page) that you have no opinion on Charlotte135's involvement in this; but I do, and I will do something about it if I see Charlotte135 involved in this case in the slightest. If the Shootingstar88 cleanup case is started, I will handle it with editors I trust. If Charlotte135 is concerned about Jytdog's involvement, Charlotte135 can obviously ask Jytdog about that. I also once again remind Charlotte135 that "we do not know what, if any, copyright or plagiarism violations exist in Shootingstar88's remaining edits, and that [Charlotte135] should not assume that all of the remaining edits are problematic." Since I do not want to interact with Charlotte135 or respond on the Charlotte135 talk page, I am letting you and Charlotte135 know here that my feelings on this remain the same. I will not reply to Charlotte135 in this section, given that Charlotte135 mischaracterizes people and situations, and any discussion I have with Charlotte135 becomes one filled with bickering. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 18:55, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Nobody worked on CCI yesterday, . Same thing, and . So when Charlotte135 expresses an interest in helping out, I am not going to discourage her from doing so. Au contraire. So far no CCI case has been opened for Shootingstar, and Charlotte135 has stated her intention to stay away from it, at least for now. Her three-month topic ban for the topic "domestic violence" expires March 15, at which point I don't see any reason why you or I or anyone else has the right to dictate what work she should undertake. I welcome you to file a case request regarding Shootingstar at WP:CCI if you wish to get started on the clean-up. I will not be participating because I do not have access to the sources, and because my intention is to keep working on the Epeefleche case (which i have been working on for three years now) and the case on Koala 15, which still has 1858 articles left to examine, but is actually finish-able because all the source material is available online. — Diannaa (talk) 19:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * We disagree on whether it is appropriate to involve an editor with a clear grudge against Shootingstar88, and tendentious editing in these topic areas, then. Charlotte135's latest posts show the intention to be involved, regardless of the fact that this is clearly a case where Charlotte135 should abstain. I'm also not keen on ultimatum type of posts like "If you don't do it, I will.", which is currently seen on Charlotte135's talk page. If Charlotte135 does become significantly involved, my disagreement on this is something I will leave to the community to decide on (by taking the matter to WP:ANI, with bullet-point reasons for why Charlotte135 should not be involved). As for Charlotte135's topic ban, problems with an editor obviously do not necessarily cease simply because the editor was banned for three months. If Charlotte135 returns to that article or other domestic violence areas, editing the same way as before, I will address the matter at WP:ANI again, and the topic ban will be longer, permanent, or apply to all gender topics. As for filing a case, you stated that you "don't know how to set up a CCI case page; one of the clerks or a more experienced admin will have to do it." If you don't know how, I probably don't either and will need to ask someone to do it for me. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I've requested that the case be opened. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:51, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * On a side note: While Charlotte135 mentions me promising to be involved with a CCI case on Shootingstar88 or that I otherwise promised to clean up Shootingstar88's edits (if any copyright or plagiarism cleanup is needed, that is), that promise (part of my "08:25, 25 February 2016 (UTC)" post) was directly based on whether or not Charlotte135 would get involved; I stated, "[If Charlotte135 becomes involved, Charlotte135] should not underestimate my determination; if need be (meaning if there are actually any copyright and plagiarism violations), I will reword every piece of Shootingstar88's text. Diannaa has my promise on that." As for now, instead of working via a CCI case, I might simply visit each of the articles Shootingstar88 has edited and reword text if I see that it's needed. Whatever I do, I will be working at my own pace, none of this "three hours a day" work Charlotte135 seems to be insisting. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:46, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Let me make a few things very clear here Flyer22reborn. I see you as a bully and your behavior here akin to workplace bullying. Pure and simple. And in the most classic form. I am not afraid of you or your silly, childish threats in any way, shape or form. I will in fact continue to stand up to you and your bullying. I also strongly believe that you are obviously far too personally involved with this blocked editor, shootingstar, to even come close to being able to neutrally clean up, or worse, re-word, the massive amount of copy violations shootingstar88 have committed, under your watch, and has now put the project at direct risk of litigation. You keep missing this real world reality Flyer22reborn, but it is not lost on me. I deal with this type of thing in my day job. But that's irrelevant here.


 * I too, will not clean up the mess caused by shootingstar88, and have constantly stated I have no interest in doing so, as shootingstar has attacked me personally in the past, and was reprimanded for it at ANI when I brought it there a month ago, so I am not the best person to do the job either. I also strongly suggest you drop the domestic violence issue too. My actual edits of that article itself, are pretty neutral, quite frankly, and no editor at any stage, ever provided any evidence, whatsoever, that my edits were in any way disruptive! As far as your constant attempts to discredit me, how do you appreciate me bringing up once again, your own very long history of blocks and sockpuppetry over the years, even though you say it was your little brother, not you, at your mom and dad's house where you edit from. How about you just drop the smear campaign, and instead focus on editing the project.Charlotte135 (talk) 00:50, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I also need to make it clear Flyerr22reborn that Diannaa estimated the job to take up to 3 months, and approximately 3 hours per day, not me. Again, you twist the truth. However I understand Diannaa's logic and that copyright violations are serious threats to the project and should always be meticulously and carefully cleaned up, like an oil spill! Diannaa also invited me to help out Flyer22reborn, and instead I chose not to and instead help out with the backlog of other copyright violations, sitting there, and fully intend to do so. However let me make it clear Flyer22reborn, if I wanted to, I would, and as a non administrator, your opinion and threatrs are entirely meaningless and are just hot air. Thank you Diannaa for your help and direction, neutrality and frankly, your maturity. I will not comment further on your talk page, but felt a response to Flyer22reborn was warranted.Charlotte135 (talk) 01:09, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Just noticing this debate. FWIW, I've been lurking on a few of these articles and my opinion is that has had a problem with POV pushing of material with a men's rights movement tone under the guise of "neutrality." The copyvio problem with Shootingstar88 has been dealt with and no need for gravedancing; a sincere editor had close-paraphrasing problems and didn't really "get it," probably in part because that editor was getting baited by Charlotte135 and viewed the legitimate critiques as just another attack. If Charlotte135, really cares about CCI, groovy. But s/he needs to back off of the personal attacks on Flyer22reborn and drop the stick. Montanabw (talk) 04:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Yep. And I must sigh at Charlotte135 bringing up sockpuppetry matters yet again as if it's at all relevant to this discussion. Charlotte135's sketchy behavior is relevant to this discussion, for reasons I've made clear above. Montanabw, who Charlotte135 also mischaracterizes and asserts is a part of "my gang," has made those reasons even clearer. The above ranting with inaccurate or false commentary regarding me is exactly what I meant when I stated: "I will not reply to Charlotte135 in this section, given that Charlotte135 mischaracterizes people and situations, and any discussion I have with Charlotte135 becomes one filled with bickering." That Charlotte135 keeps bringing up the sockpuppetry cases regarding me, despite that matter having been thoroughly explained to Charlotte135, is just one example of Charlotte135 failing to be a reasonable editor. Charlotte135 has already been told that I was cleared by a checkuser who thoroughly investigated the case, and that it was not a "my parents house" matter; it was a "my house" matter. Yet Charlotte135 can't even get that detail right, or the fact that I do not have a long block log. Charlotte135 repeats and repeats without really hearing anything, and seems to think that bringing up sockpuppetry cases I was cleared of makes me look bad or just as bad as Charlotte135 looks, or negates Charlotte135's bad editing. If those cases were everything Charlotte135 makes them out to be, I would not have been cleared by a respected checkuser and I wouldn't still have the respect of the community. Maybe Charlotte135 keeps bringing up those cases to press my buttons. No worries, however; I will simply repeat in the same fashion every time it is done.


 * As for Shootingstar88's supposed attacks on Charlotte135, Shootingstar88 was simply stating the obvious, and it was not an outing violation in the least. Even in the ANI case Charlotte135 started on Shootingstar88, editors agreed with Shootingstar88's assessment. Charlotte135, someone who can't let a thing go and obsesses over matters with no end in sight, hounded two editors (MarkBernstein and Only in death) who echoed Shootingstar88's assessment, as seen here and here. Above, Charlotte135 claims no interest in messing with Shootingstar88's edits in this case, despite commentary on Charlotte135's talk page showing otherwise, with Charlotte135 indeed essentially giving me an ultimatum and making it seem that I need to be working on the case three hours a day. Above, Charlotte135 goes on about being invited by Diannaa to help, despite the fact that Charlotte135 went to Diannaa first. Charlotte135 did the inviting. And that Charlotte135 still claims that their disruptive editing at the Domestic violence article and similar articles was fine shows that the problem still exists. Playing the victim, acting like a topic ban was unfairly enacted, without evidence, is one of the many reasons I will never trust this editor. Either way, Diannaa is not the least bit interested in all this drama. And so this is my last comment in this section (regarding Charlotte135 anyway). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Montanabw, why don't you give the baseless POV bit a rest. I'm getting a bit sick of it, frankly. My editing over many topics does not indicate that in any way and you know it. As far as personal attacks, geez, your friend Flyer22 reborn posted this old crud on Diannaa's talk page, and I simply responded, albeit much more mildly. It is as clear as day, if one were to carefully look at all of the blocked editor shootingstar88's edits on Wikipedia, that they held a very significant POV on gender topics, and I do wonder why both you and your friend Flyer22reborn are so very keen to keep these copyright violations in place. They open the project up to litigation for blatant copy and pasting of original author's work. That's not constructive, it's destructive. And no, these extensive copyright violations are not yet dealt with Montanabw. I suggest we all just get on with editing the project and if shootingstar88's edits need to be deleted or significantly re-worked as per Wikipedia policy, so be it. Nobody is gravedancing. Just protecting the project from possible and needless litigation.Charlotte135 (talk) 06:03, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Give it a rest Flyer22reborn. Here you go again, talking about my topic ban, all the while downplaying all of your various blocks and sockpuppetry cases with you, and your little brother. I am just defending myself and pushing back a little. That's how you should deal with bullies. Stand up to them. And you are right Diannaa does not care nor should this discussion be taking place. So why did you post all that crud above and not expect a response. You should know better. Just let it go and get on with editing. You have absolutely no control over anything, and are simply another fellow editor here on Wikipedia. Nothing more, nothing less. Show some respect!Charlotte135 (talk) 06:16, 29 February 2016 (UTC)