User talk:Draykyle

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Speedy deletion nomination of OrderZone.com


A tag has been placed on OrderZone.com requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Feedback
I have replied to your request for feedback at Requests for feedback/2011 June 6. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:SimotionDiagram.jpg
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File permission problem with File:Automation Console.jpg
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File permission problem with File:Blurry Products in Factory.jpg
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Speedy deletion nomination of Fareportal
Hello Draykyle,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Fareportal for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Lithopsian (talk) 19:42, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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 * In this case it seemed appropriate - it could also be 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting' Draykyle (talk) 16:14, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Conflicts of interest?
Hi- I'm interested to know why you've created pages on such a varied range of subjects. Please disclose any conflicts of interest you may have with the subjects, including being paid to edit, per our terms of use. jcc (tea and biscuits) 20:42, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your review of the Sharestates page. I've been helping a friend, and should be within Wikipedia's ethical standards. I've just been reading the rules again, and I didn't realize that paid editing was now permitted; I may do some in the future, which I will disclose as per the rules.Draykyle (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * As I'm sure you're aware, in my initial message, I referred to the existing pages you have created/expanded, not just Sharestates. It is a stretch too far to accept that your friend wants you to 'help' by improving the pages of such varied subjects. jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

September 2017
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or self-promoting in violation of the conflict of interest and notability guidelines. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:14, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Non-admin comment: Looking at information from the investigation it would appear you have been using another account. Just opinion though. Kind regards ChocolateRabbit 11:50, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Comment: Berean Hunter and I both found your previous explanation not credible and I believe that this is just more of the same.


 * Your unblock request is full of ambigious, duplicitous statements- above, you said that "you were helping a friend", now you're saying that "you might have been in the grey area for some edits"- ridiculous given that you've either been paid or you haven't.
 * You state that you might start doing "specifically paid edits"- there is no such thing as "not specifically paid"- it's either paid for or not.
 * Equally, you brush aside the fact that it is highly unlikely, impossible even for "the Gurutsm user" to know about your sandbox draft and move it into mainspace, and even more unlikely that they would do it twice.
 * It is quite hard to just pick up paid editing, especially when you have no prior experience/work to show to prospective clients. Yet immediately after the COI notice, when you claimed to learn the rules about paid editing you found a client immediately- Audionamix. That's not really believable...
 * Again, pointing out to the reviewing admin, when users receive COI notices, they tend to deny the claims, or say "yes, I understand, but that's not the case with this article". Draykyle went "aha, so I can start doing paid edits then? Great!". I've given out many COI notices, but have never seen that kind of response.
 * Additionally, I'll point out what raised my suspicions in the first place. Draykyle has written/rewritten articles across a wide range of companies in often completely different sectors. Examples include Sharestates, a real estate investment company, Payoneer, a payment company, Zeta Global, a marketing company, OneTravel, a travel company, Ultra Mobile, a cellular network and Ashley Stewart, a women's clothing brand. jcc (tea and biscuits) 13:21, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:17, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, this editor has been engaged in undisclosed paid editing for quite some time and is not being remotely close to truthful.

Comment from Draykyle (talk) 23:17, 23 September 2017 (UTC): Well, I'm not sure what exactly I can tell you. One thing I would say in my defense is that I would do sockpuppetry in a much less obvious way if I was going to do it - that's easy enough to do right? I’d like to think my articles, while perhaps not brilliant, would suggest at least the sophistication to manage that. I could be one of those people with whole armies of sockpuppets, logging in from different IP addresses around the world, with different size screens and browsers, getting in big arguments with myself, pre-empting the criticism. YOU, Berean Hunter, would be my sock puppet, if I was like that. But I'm not, and never will be, even if you were to permanently block this account. Wikipedia is a sacred space.

I never said anything to suggest that the Gurutsm user was a coincidence - what gave you that impression? I talked to them and they sounded like they would be willing to say they are a separate account. Not that that would prove too much, wouldn't be so hard for me to do that if they were a sock puppet.

Unfortunately I don't think I can talk about the edits I did, for reasons unconnected to Wikipedia. In general terms, what I've read so far suggests there are plenty of grey areas - just to give examples, there are thing like helping someone for free, but thinking that a paid internship just might come your way later if you did, or helping out someone you feel you owed a favor to, maybe some mentorship arrangements, or any number of things. Looking over it all I feel confident I'm in the white ethically.

One way or another, you can go ahead and assume they were all paid edits if you want to - I'm not sure what I could say in my defense there. In that scenario I would just say, well ok we’ll just assume I was, but then even if that were true, I didn't know the rules (a couple of years ago I remember reading an article that said paid editing was alright on Wikipedia, actually - I can't remember the source though), I got my first warning, and will disclose any paid edits. Admittedly the only evidence you have that I'll disclose in the future, in that scenario, is that is that I disclosed the Audionamix sandbox, but I did do that. Is that permanently blockable? For anything that could be considered a 'grey area' edit in the future I'll disclose the exact nature of it, or disclose it as a paid edit.

You say 'I've given out many COI notices, but have never seen that kind of response.' Maybe that's good - in a world where you can't really prevent sophisticated clandestine commercial editing, maybe you should embrace it when someone does disclose. Then the community can monitor the edits, tell people, hey, that bit about all the little awards you won, that's too much, and you have to put in this bit about that bad press you've got, etc.

Doing anything else is just going to push commercial editors underground. In this hypothetical situation where I'm doing paid edits for all these big companies, and now, maybe I could start having them disclose, then blocking me off is just penalizing me, them, for doing right. Wikipedia had a debate, and decided paid editing was necessary, right? That happened for a reason, maybe because it’s a little bad, but it’s much better than these sophisticated operations with their armies of sockpuppets.

Depending on where exactly you set the bar for notability, there are maybe thousands, or tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of companies, people, organizations, out there that justify a Wikipedia page, but which no editor has gotten around to writing an article for. I think it’s alright for them to hire someone to write those articles (or at least plead their case for notability), as long as it’s done according to the paid disclose rules. I don’t really see a big downside to that, maybe it’s a bit of work to monitor them, make sure every little detail of the article is how it should be, but its less work than chasing down the sophisticated operations. There's also scenarios like where someone hires a paid gun to attack a site, someone’s competition wants their page written badly, has an army of sockpuppets. Could be if you sit down and logic it out, the best response to that could end up being having a disclosed paid editor defend the page, in an environment where paid disclosure is accepted for that by the Wikipedia community. Could be any number of situations like that.

Anyways, there’s my piece... Sorry to go off about this - its a bit of a read - but I think this is an important issue. Perhaps this case can play a small role in setting precedent for these kinds of things. Can I have some users unconnected to either Jcc or Berean Hunter review this?Draykyle (talk) 23:17, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Non-admin comment:

You, as a blocked editor, are responsible for convincing administrators:
 * that the block is in fact not necessary to prevent damage or disruption (i.e., that the block violates our blocking policy); '''or:
 * that the block is no longer necessary because you understand what you are blocked for, you will not do it again, and you will make productive contributions instead; '''or:
 * that your conduct (under any account or IP address) is not connected in any way with the block (this can happen if a block is aimed at resolving a separate situation and you are unintentionally blocked as a result because you use the same IP range).

It also helps to clearly state your reasons for requesting an unblock because:
 * If the background or reason isn't clear, your request may be declined out of hand.
 * In complicated situations, the reviewing administrator may not want to spend a long time reading your whole talk page and all of your contributions. Information and evidence not in your unblock request may not be read.
 * If you make repeated invalid or offensive unblock requests, your talk page access may be revoked which makes it even more difficult to request unblocking.

Also, you must disclose if you are being paid to edit Wikipedia, if that is the case. Kind regards ChocolateRabbit 19:58, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Sharestates for deletion
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Proposed deletion of ECi Software Solutions


The article ECi Software Solutions has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "A WP:PROMO page for an unremarkable private company. Does not meet WP:NORG; significant RS coverage not found. Created by Special:Contributions/Draykyle currently indef blocked for abusing multiple accounts."

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Proposed deletion of SiMotion


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