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Good luck
 豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune. このミラPはEaldgythたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！ フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE! ミラP 04:15, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Additional nomination
Congratulations on your appointment. San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge half dollar has been awaiting promotion for two weeks. I trust there is no objection to my nomination of New Rochelle 250th Anniversary half dollar. It is hard enough to attract reviews these days, there starts to be a difficulty when nominations start to cannibalize reviews from the one that would come next simply by sitting on the nomination page for extended periods of time, and I look forward to your finding your feet as coordinator and helping to bring down these extended backlogs. All the best,--Wehwalt (talk) 08:34, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to start a second one to me. Hoping to dig into promotions this week, if I can fight off the bug that the hubby brought home from work. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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TPS...
If some of you could check on Rollo ... we seem to have someone determined to push... something ... combined with WP:CIR issues. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:35, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

For lack of a natural science themed greetings...
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Ealdgyth: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 19:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Merry Christmas!!
Happy Holidays text.png Thank you very much Ealdgyth for your thoughtful greeting. You have my very best wishes for this holiday season. May your heart be filled with happiness during this special time. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays
Hi Ealdgyth, many thanks for the card. All the best to you and yours for the holidays. Cheers, SarahSV (talk) 06:36, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks
Ealdgyth, Waes hael - Drinc hael! Urselius (talk) 09:16, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

A good holiday!

 * My good comrade Ealdgyth! May the guiding and divining energy of the universe sustain you and yours, keep you safe and allow your eternal growth to prosper this year and for all time. With love and respect, Simon. Simon Adler (talk) 02:05, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 00:57, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * LOL FWiW Bzuk! Good to see Santa has a CAP. That made me smile! Regards, Simon. Simon Adler (talk) 02:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Anyone for an Archbishop of Canterbury?
Seasonal greetings, Ealdgyth! The 96th Archbishop of Canterbury is a few centuries late for your usual focus, but if you are interested I have his article up for peer review, if you care to look in. Quite understand if not, of course. Best wishes,  Tim riley  talk   21:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   14:24, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the holiday greetings! Wishing you all the best for the New Year to come! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:17, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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Cultural depictions
Hi Ealdgyth. Happy New Year. Can you take a look at Talk:Ealhswith. Dudley Miles (talk) 11:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The relevant guideline is Manual of Style/Trivia sections and the RfC which closed with "The consensus is very clear that a secondary source is required in almost all cases. A tertiary source is even better, if available. In the rare case that a primary source is judged to be sufficient, it should be properly cited. The source(s) cited should not only establish the verifiability of the pop culture reference, but also its significance." ... so secondary sources discussing the cultural depiction are needed. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:14, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dudley Miles (talk) 15:47, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Let me know if that doesn't solve the issue. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:49, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

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Oopsie
I think you may have mixed this up with the actual massacre article. This one is the video game. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  00:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is the discussion four years ago on a request to run this article on TFA. Brian got it right then.  There is no way this article should run, especially on the anniversary of this horror.  Kablammo (talk) 00:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I will vehemently oppose running anything like a game based off that massacre. Talk about tasteless. If it runs, it can run on some other date. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:38, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's bleeding outrageous. I augmented the reasoning slightly, but I don't think it was understood. Imagine a world in which...I'm too subtle. Wow! ——  SN  54129

Once more, with feeling.
When you put your foot down, it really goes down and stays down, doesn't it? I'll wait, in awe, for the first person brave enough to underpost you on that FAC. Yomangani talk 14:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have been told I have been replaced as the badass of the internet! (On my way to see if I am brave enough to underpost at wherever this has happened!)  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  14:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I dared. Recognizing that some people disliked it (too bad), this is a perfect example of when the old "restart technique" was useful.  The page is full of blather.  Real improvements or criticisms are lost.  Valid and invalid are blurred.  You wipe the page clean, add at the top a diff to the old commentary, ping everyone back and tell them to give their opinion without rehashing.  Pisses people off by lets them know they aren't going to continue this way, and rarely has to be used (eg, Catholic Church).  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  14:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Alternately, if the "restart" still freaks people out, you move the whole review to the talk page of the FAC, add a diff of the move, and ping everyone back for a fresh start with a warning not to rehash. Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  14:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a cop-out underpost, Sandy, I'm not counting that. Yomangani talk 14:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Ha, don't tempt me ... if I wanted to be really bad ass, I'd go and do what I suggest Ealdgyth do :) But that would not be cool ... Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  14:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The problem with the "restart" is that there is only one review that is open. Everyone else has done their review and supported, and they were all after F&F's oppose. There seems little benefit in restarting 11 completed and supporting reviews just for the one that is still open. - SchroCat (talk) 15:19, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Schro, a page with 11 supports, followed by one open review is much clearer, cleaner, easier for the coords to process, and makes a strong impact :) As well as sending a strong message about acceptable reviews at FAC.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  15:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Possibly - but it does waste the time and goodwill of the eleven editors who have already supported.
 * You are right to say that, in that one open review, valid and invalid points are blurred, some dealt with, others possibly lost in the noise. This is why I put in a request to the co-ords to clarify what, in their opinion and in line with the FA criteria, actually needs addressing (and stylistic points on use of "career" and "profession" don't, as far as I am concered). That was only requested earlier today, and Ealdgyth has referred to that process in her post, so hopefully there will be some resolution of some areas before long. - SchroCat (talk) 15:29, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * (ec X2) Folks, can we NOT fuel further discussion in yet other places. I'm WORKING on it. But .. yes, it needs to be handled with some care and I'm not in a place where typing is easy. A nice quiet cool down on all "sides" would be appreciated, not a further rehashing of the situation all over the place. That isn't going to help calm the waters, which is what I would like, thank you. Did I mention it's been a shitty ass week? Had to put down a horse Sunday ... while I was on the road with hubby, so son had to deal with that. And hubby's work has screwed up his payroll to hell and back so THAT's stressful. And (petty but important to dealing with Wiki) the ergonomic keyboard I brought along for the road trip has developed a glitch and isn't working any longer so I'm working on a "standard" keyboard for the first time in 35 years. One reason I don't have carpal tunnel after all the years working as a person who spends ages on the computer is that I've religiously used ergonomic keyboards ... which means my typo rate on a non-ergonomic is through the roof. Still trying to find a way to dispose of the horse ... it's winter in Wisconsin and yeah... we'd like to bury him on the property (I'm still tearing up at losing him) but finding a way to do that is ... difficult. The FAC is on my plate, I'll have something up reasonably soon. No, its not likely to be a restart - I'm a bit more "proactive" than that in my approach to FAC - i lean a bit more towards throwing my "weight" around some and in this situation, the second FAC was pretty much a restart in all but name, honestly. Doesn't seem to have worked, so we'll try something else. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Ealdgyth, Sounds like a shitty week, and I'm sorry this adds to it. I didn't mean this to be a 'further discussion' set of comments - just a bit by way of clarification to SG. You are right to say that this FAC was a restart: I meant it as such to force a separation in the original break in communications in the hope that this second one would be different; you're right: that didn't work either. I hope your week improves - there's no rush from my side: I've already said I'll sit out on dealing with review comments until the weekend just so it's not a question of rehashing the same points yet again, so whenever you're ready is fine with me. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, Ealdgyth, I am so so sorry about your horse :( :( Having dealt with burying horses, and having buried a 5-lb Yorkie in the winter with the ground frozen, I can only imagine how you feel not only about losing the horse, but about having to find a means of burial.  So sorry :(  I will stay out (couldn't resist the temptation from Yoman, but sorry to make things harder :)  Since no one has responded to my post at the FAC, I shall go remove it.  Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)
 * Too late. Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  15:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)