User talk:Fremte

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CIA articles (plural)
As you probably noticed, the main CIA article has gotten extremely long, and a number of editors are trying to make it shorter, containing the key details of legal foundation, structure, and general missions, with the details of intelligence collection, covert action, authorizations/orders for covert action, etc., in subordinate articles.

Your material would be great in CIA transnational human rights actions. I've copied your contribution there, and, if you agree, would like to have just a link to the subject in the main article.

Thanks! You might find it interesting to drop into the WikiProject Military history section and look around for the Intelligence Task Force and /Essays/Declassified documents

Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 17:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Template
I'm aware of the template, since I'm the one who actually created it. Just like the template 9-11 hijackers however, you'll notice we do list the "wrongly-accused" on the same template as the "guilty". This is actually for a good reason, because it keeps our "mistakes" visible and in the public conscious - they may see Omar Khadr listed on the template, but they won't automatically assume he's a "terrorist", maybe he'll be proven to be "another Arar". I am however, thinking of separating the template into two parts - one specific to pre-9/11 (Canada and Terrorism) and one specific to post-9/11 ("Canada in the War on Terror"). Your thoughts on that? Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 03:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if there are enough to justify a template, there are I believe five minors who were detained at Gitmo, including Khadr (btw, I'm trying to get Omar Khadr to featured status this month, would appreciate your constructive criticism and discussion on the talk page) - and I've been looking at army reports trying to find the name of the kid who shot Nathan Chapman, but no luck thusfar. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 03:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated, your edit actually enticed me to look a little harder for an article about the test itself, which luckily seems to be quite thorough. I think I'll try to contact Trupin and Matthews, see if there's any chance they'll release their findings into the Creative Commons so they can be put up on Wikisource and linked from the article. What's your opinion on the best place to "split" the Guantanamo section? Remove the CSIS details and put them in their own section? Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 03:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Since you haven't made any major edits to the article, you're qualified to be the deciding vote on whether it gets "Good Article" status - which is the first step towards Featured status. Personally, I think it's well beyond GA right now, and it's more of a "formality" in my mind - but the details are at Good article nominations. If you think it passes, you remove it from the list and add to Talk:Omar Khadr, if you think it has some unresolved issues then it's  on the list beneath Khadr's name, or if you think it fails, you remove it from the list and add  to Talk:Omar Khadr. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 23:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Khadr II

 * References to Omar Khadr's upbringing were deleted by Speaker for the Dead, and he deleted the POV banners placed on the article by another contributor. Thus, the POV banner you noted.  I've responded to your comments, and would appreciate it if you had would have some time to provide feedback.
 * As an aside, I get abusive remarks hurled at me for questioning anything that Speaker for the Dead says. For instance, I was told I needed to study Logic 101, and when I explained that I was studying law at Cambridge University, the response was to question my academic credentials.--Dlafferty (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Saskatchewan & Neighbourhoods Invite
I am here to invite you to join WikiProject Saskatchewan Communities & Neighbourhoods. If you have an interest in the Saskatchewan, this is another area in which you can join. We look forward to welcoming you to the project. WP:SKCN Mr. C.C. (talk) 19:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Already I be a member! entry to Fishhead/ Mr.C.C. talk page! Fremte (talk) 01:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't notice. Thanks for joining.  Mr. C.C. (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Saint John's School of Alberta article
Hi Fremte, To answer your questions, the child welfare investigation I obtained through a freedom of information request to the Alberta government, child services. There are also other documents of interest from the same series of FOI requests I will post. Also I have other interesting material that would round out the article nicely. The world authority on the history of Saint John's schools is Stephen Riley. My archive is tiny in comparison. Nonetheless, I will keep posting till all interesting material I have is exhausted. It would be easier if I had some way of forwarding the scanned files rather than having to re-type them all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjresearcher (talk • contribs) 04:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Create a [Kelly Kettle] page.
Hi Fremte,

I am writing to you as I wish to create a page for [Kelly Kettle] however am experiencing difficulties at the moment as the page has been protected. There had been Intellectual Property Rights Infringement whereby searches for [Kelly Kettle] & [Volcano Kettle] were been redirected incorrectly to the [Storm Kettle] page. These Redirects have now (correctly) been removed. However, a page I had created for [Kelly Kettle] was taken down and now the [Kelly Kettle] is PROTECTED and I am unable to edit it.

There seems to be a lot of confusion and misunderstanding here by the Administrators and as such, I am only pleased to point out the following facts which should help clarify the situation:

Sharon Cawley (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 1. The Brands [Kelly Kettle] & [Volcano Kettle] are Registered Trademarks of the Kelly Kettle Company in Ireland.

2. The [Volcano Kettle] is the Generic name for these type of kettles (it dates back to the 1890's in Ireland) and is now owned by the Kelly Kettle Company which has been trading for over four generations. In the early 1920's similar type kettles appeared in New Zealand (The Thermette) and Afghanistan/Mongolia (Samovar - as pictured in a recent edition of the National Geographic magazine) and both are believed to have been slight variants of the [Volcano Kettle]

3. The [Storm Kettle] is not the generic name for these type kettles as the brand was only established in the 1990's and is a direct copy of the [Kelly Kettle]

4. Kelly Kettles are sold all over the world and I know from converstaions with Patrick Kelly, Director of the Kelly Kettle Company, that they have in excess of 40,000 new visits to their website every month. 5. The Kelly Kettle has been described in Irish Media recently as a 'Global Microbrand' i.e. a Brand which is recognised world wide in niche markets.

As such, I want to create a separate page for them. The Kelly Kettle is extremely popular globally and I don't see why the page should be protected or why there were ever redirects to a copy Brands page in the first place!

Please let me know what needs to be done here to unprotect the page so that I can insert Text and Pictures I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.

Thanking you in advance.

Sharon.Sharon Cawley (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Taser controversy AfD
Hi. I noticed your comment at Talk:Taser controversy. That section is actually a notification for a previous AfD on a different article. The correct location is here: Articles for deletion/Taser controversy. Hope this helps. Flatscan (talk) 03:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Electric Bicycle Laws
hello. I'm trying to clean up the article on electric bicycle laws. I do not have a very in depth understanding of Canada's governmental structure and this is slowing me down. If you could give me some good references to help me understand the province vs. Federal law dynamic in relation to traffic it would be very helpful.

Also, if you could take a moment to give me an opinion on the United States Federal section of the article, which I overhauled extensively, I would be appreciative. Executorvs (talk) 01:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. It seems from your explanation to be similar to the US federal state model. I had found a Federal definition and safety standards and was debating reorganizing the section on Canada a little after I became more familiar with Provincial law. I'm taking a similar approach to the EU as well. if you could compare the United states Federal section pre my editing to the section now it would show you what I'm hoping to do. Executorvs (talk) 03:34, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Pawistik Lodge
The article has been deleted, maintained here until archived. --Fremte (talk) 16:50, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

c.f.,

2008
I removed the speedy tag you added to Pawistik Lodge because the article had previously survived an AfD at Articles for deletion/Pawistik Lodge. --Eastmain (talk) 21:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

2009
Fremte,

In the future, if you would like to make changes to our Wikipedia entry for Pawistik Lodge, please ensure that they are edited for accuracy and grammar. For instance, Pawistik Lodge is solely owned by Scott Jeffrey. In previous changes you made, Noreen Robb was mentioned as an owner. What Scott is trying to do is provide a geographically and historically accurate picture of the area surrounding the lodge, while still informing people of the existence of the lodge. If you refer to our website, you will see advertising as it ought to be. To label this Wikipedia entry as blatant advertising is inaccurate. Our entry strives for the same kind of balance as in the following links, and I think we succeed rather well. Perhaps you should consider editing the entries for the following hotels, which are owned by large chains such as Delta and Fairmont, and which are quite explicit in their claims regarding the properties they own and operate:

Hotel Saskatchewan

Sylvia Hotel

Chateau Lake Louise

Banff Springs Hotel

Hotel Vancouver

Delta Bessborough

Central Business District, Prince_Albert, Saskatchewan

Scott was born and raised in Flin Flon, knows the country well as an amateur historian, and has traversed the whole area long before he bought the lodge 15 years ago. As such, if there are any questions you would like answered on the area's history, wildlife, and geography, he would be happy to oblige. His email address is: scott@northernstar.ab.ca.

Scott is a small business owner in the northern half of Saskatchewan, employing ecologically sound catch and release practices, and leaving a very small footprint on the land while trying to provide a needed service to both locals and tourists. Every guest he entertains supports the economy of Saskatchewan in a small way, and if his Wikipedia entry helps to inform the public of his services, it deserves to be as accurate and and full of information as possible. This is what we strive to do.

Thanks, Northerstar1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Northerstar1 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Kelly Kettle - redirecting to smaller Brand of 'storm kettle'
Hi there Fremte,

I am not particularly familiar with using Wikipedia so apologies if this message comes across in the wrong format etc.

I write to you regarding my company and brand Kelly Kettle® (Also Known as the Volcano Kettle®). Both of the aforementioned brands are our registered Trademarks in the E.U., Canada & the U.S. We have invested considerable funds over recent years to vigourously protect our IP rights as copies of our kettles occasionally appear on the market and the producers of these copies invariably try and sell under our Trademarks on E-Bay, Amazon, etc.

Our company has been trading for four generations and our products continue to grow in popularity every year. We ship to vitually every country in the world and are proud of our long established brand.

The purpose of this correspondence is to ascertain as to why it is that a Wikipedia search for our Global Brand Kelly Kettle causes the visitor to land on a page titled 'Storm Kettle'.

The 'Storm Kettle' is a UK based brand which is much smaller than our Brand. We currently sell 10 x times more kettles every year than this competitor brand and we widen that gap every year. I know this because, one of our Subcontractors also manufacture the 'Storm Kettle' so I am aware of how many units the company sells per annum.

The 'Storm Kettle' is a direct copy of our product and the brand is only about 10yrs old. This fact is undisputable - why? Well the director of the Eydon Kettle Company who provide the 'Storm Kettle', used to be a Director of the Kelly Kettle Company until he was ejected from the company after been found guilty (in the U.K. Courts) of wrongdoing. When he was removed from the Kelly Kettle Company he set up a competing business and hence the 'Storm Kettle' brand was born.....i.e. born decades after the Kelly Kettle.

The 'Storm Kettle' is a Registered Trademark in the UK only. The Brand is not widely known outside of the UK and it is not registered in any other jurisdiction which confirms my assertion that they trade very little outside of the UK.

How 'Storm Kettle' came to be used as a Generic Name I do not know. I removed the redirect on 'Kelly Kettle' a few days ago but it is back again. I find it intensely frustrating (to put it mildly!) that our long established and well protected, global brand, is treated as a afterthought to a much much smaller and now shrinking UK based Brand. If anything, the Article page should be titled Kelly Kettle with any searches for 'Storm Kettle' redirecting to the more Generic 'Kelly Kettle' article.

I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this matter. I know that Wikipedia is an extremely popular and important source of information for Millions of users every day. Therefore, it is of utmost importance to my company, that our Brand is given the recognition that it duly deserves.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. Thanking you in advance. Knockmoregaa (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Fremte, As you suggested, I have consulted with the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NCON

If the name of an inanimate or non-human entity is disputed by two jurisdictions and one or more English-language equivalents exists, use the most common English-language name.

Identification of common names using external references

A number of methods can be used to identify which of a pair (or more) conflicting names is the most prevalent in English.

> The Google test. Using Google's advanced search option, search for each conflicting name and confine the results to pages written in English; also exclude the word "Wikipedia" (as we want to see what other people are using, not our own usage). Note which is the most commonly used term.

(1) Google Test - 'Storm kettle' dries up about Page 15 (using 20 listings per page) (approx 281-300 results) and many of the entries on the previous pages refer to Kelly Kettle / Storm Kettles in the same entries with more starting to make referenece to a different product altogether - the 'Storm'Electric Kettle.

'Kelly Kettle' search goes to Page 34 (again 20 listings per page) before the search starts to get muddled with other items. (approx 661-680 results)

(2) Have checked with https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordTool to compare the numbers of 'Google' Searches for the different Trademarks. results are as follows:

'Kelly Kettle' = averaged 9,900pm over past year (118,800 pa)

'Volcano Kettle' = averaged 1,900pm over past year (22,800 pa)

'Storm Kettle' = averaged 2,900pm over past year (34,800 pa)

Together, our 'Kelly' & 'Volcano' Brands had 141,600 searches as opposed to 34,800 searches for the 'Storm' brand (4 times as many)

(3) www.kellykettle.com enjoys a Google Page Rank of 8/10 whereas www.eydonkettle.com (stormkettle website) is only ranked as 3/10. PageRank is a numeric value that represents how important a page is on the web. The higher the ranking, the more important that Google perceives the page.

The wording on the existing article is written in a Neutral Manner to which I am agreeable. However, based on the overwhelming evidence provided above, coupled with a mountain of empirical evidence, I am adamant that the the article in wikipedia and current re-direct is a gross injustice to the Kelly Kettle and lends unacceptable Brand support to a small trademark which can lay no claim whatsoever to been the 'Generic name' for our type of kettles. I respectfully suggest that the article should be changed back to its original name Kelly Kettle with any searches for 'Storm Kettle' redirecting to the 'Kelly Kettle' article page. The existing wording on the page is neutral so a couple of minor edits would be all that is required to complete the correction. I look forward to hearing back from you and to your assistance in this matter.

Kind regards, --Knockmoregaa (talk) 15:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Thatcher-ross.jpg
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Thatcher-ross.jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --Stifle (talk) 15:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Greetings and invitation to discuss your recent update to the Sharia article
Hi Fremte,

Please help me understand the nature of your concerns here.

Thanks and regards, Aquib (talk) 02:22, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Metis flag.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Metis flag.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Psychonaut (talk) 14:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

New 10,000 Challenge for Canada
Hi, WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge is up and running based on The 10,000 Challenge for the UK which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. If you'd like to see large scale quality improvements happening for Canada like The Africa Destubathon, which has produced over 1600 articles in 5 weeks, sign up on the page. The idea will be an ongoing national editathon/challenge for Canada but fuelled by a contest such as The North America Destubathon to really get articles on every province and subject mass improved. I would like some support from Canadian wikipedians here to get the Challenge off to a start with some articles to make doing a Destubathon worthwhile! Cheers. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Northern Sask youth and mental health
Pinehouse Photography Club page is up for deletion. Hope you can contribute in any way to ensure it doesn't--Dreerwin (talk) 18:15, 13 October 2019 (UTC). Thank you very much!!