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Torvosaurus
Have a look at these changes/removal by the IP. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've reverted it, seemed like junk. FunkMonk (talk) 14:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Rodrigues rail - Erythromachus leguati
Hi, Rodrigues rail is Erythromachus leguati. You reverted authority to the obsolete value of 'Milne-Edwards, 1874'. IOC v13.2, BOW/Cornell/, AviBase all have ' Milne-Edwards, 1873' (which is why I edited it accordingly) Please undo your revert or show why you know better than IOC, Avibase, and Cornell University - cheers Kweetal nl (talk) 11:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, the problem is, as I stated, outlined here, and it needs to be discussed and agreed upon how to deal with the issue first. That one date is "obsolete" is subjective. Different authorities (see Hume examples) use different formats. FunkMonk (talk) 11:38, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough.
 * I've been updating the authority data from the 11,001 species of IOC v13.2 on NL-wikipedia, and changed quite a few EN:wiki entries along the way. Much less was necessary on the enwiki, as expected. I've updated enwiki only when IOC and BOW/Cornell had the same authority value.
 * Ah well, I'll just put your rail into the skiplist (for future resolution...). Kweetal nl (talk) 12:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Nice, and feel free to comment on the discussion, because it needs some kind of resolution. It could very well be the one you propose, but it needs to be based on solid sources. FunkMonk (talk) 12:35, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * 1873 is probably correct - I've added some comment to the earlier discussion here - Aa77zz (talk) 15:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 21



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Hey buddy, I am back and I have quite a backlog lol. Do you think we should mention the artist name in the caption, just to be fair with the artist, even though the image is in the public domain? el.ziade (talkallam) 08:39, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Welcome back, I'm not sure how common artist attribution is in DYK captions (I understand they have to be pretty short), but I'm not against it. By the way, how do you feel about nominating one of your recent TFAs for Lebanese Independence Day on November 22? FunkMonk (talk) 09:36, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, and mabrouk with the marriage! FunkMonk (talk) 09:49, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Mimodactylus
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TFA
Hi FM, how are you getting on with the blurb for Rodrigues night heron? Ta. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:10, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, have to admit I forgot, haha. Will try to have a look tomorrow. FunkMonk (talk) 22:17, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * How about this, ? Feel free to modify.

The Rodrigues night heron is an extinct species of heron that was endemic to the Mascarene island of Rodrigues. It was first mentioned in two 1600s and 1700s accounts, and these were correlated with subfossil remains found and described in the latter part of the 19th century. The Rodrigues night heron was robust, its bill was comparatively large, stout and straight, and its legs were short and strong. It is estimated to have been 60 cm long, and its appearance in life is uncertain. Little is known about its behaviour, but the contemporary accounts indicate that it ate lizards, was adapted to running, and although able to fly, rarely did so. Examinations of the known remains have confirmed its terrestrial adaptations; one researcher thought the species flightless but this idea has not been accepted by others. The species could not be found by 1763, and it is thought to have been driven to extinction by human-related factors such as the introduction of cats.

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 * Four redirects - which are not allowed on the main page - a new record. Many thanks, it looks good. I shall take it away to my lair - User:Gog the Mild/Blurbs - and may tweak it a little. Feel free to keep an eye on it and grumble if I go overboard. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:54, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, yeah, just shows how long time has passed since I wrote my last blurb haha (no redirects, is that a new thing?). FunkMonk (talk) 18:57, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It's good, no worries. Not that I am aware of, but I have only been doing this for a couple of years. As off the main page redirects are encouraged I think us main page folk don't make a fuss and just sort it out. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Rodrigues night heron scheduled for TFA
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Sandwiching
How am I being disruptive by adhering to Wikipedia's policies? I don't understand how changing one image can be so possibly disruptive to the way the article looks. It looks just fine on my system, and it counts for the text between a taxobox and an image. Just becasue it's barely complained about doesn't mean it isn't the right thing to do. I don't know why you're trying to threaten me to stop editing constructively. Sounds like WP:OWNBEHAVIOR to me. Chumzwumz68 (talk) 16:59, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As is plain from your talk page, I'm far from the only editor who has complained about this behaviour. No one is threatening you, we're asking you to stop the disruptive drive-by edits. FunkMonk (talk) 17:10, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "drive-by"? And I want to see evidence of how this is disruptive, if I am simply trying to fix the image problem. Not just you, but anyone else who complains about this. I want to see exactly how my edits are being disruptive to Wikipedia as a whole, if I'm just trying to stop images from sandwiching text between taxoboxes. It's that simple. I'm not attempting to be annoying or clutter up the pages. Chumzwumz68 (talk) 03:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * For the record, above editor was just blocked as a massive sock-puppeteer. FunkMonk (talk) 23:09, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Smilodon art
I was wondering if you could get the paleo artists to create some art of Smilodon for the "Social life" section? LittleJerry (talk) 17:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Possibly, though I don't think we have any resident felid specialist. Any specific behaviour you had in mind? FunkMonk (talk) 18:53, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Group living, fighting and/or parental care. LittleJerry (talk) 19:54, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, we'll probably be more successful if we pick a particular scenario based on some specific sources and perhaps even a picture reference we can provide. Then we can list it as a request at WP:paleoart, and tag the few mammal-oriented artists I can think of. FunkMonk (talk) 20:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * How about an image of a father and mother saber-tooth with young? The article already cites a paper which suggests they lived in monogamous families. Also, someone could recreate the hyoid arrangement based on the vocalization article. LittleJerry (talk) 00:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I struggle to think of who could do this convincingly. Perhaps ? FunkMonk (talk) 19:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confidence, Ill give it a try next month. Juandertal (talk) 13:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Four Award for Mimodactylus

 * Thanks a lot! FunkMonk (talk) 01:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Promotion of Mimodactylus

 * @FunkMonk Huge congrats on getting Mimodactylus to featured status! 🌟 Your dedication and hard work truly paid off, and you proved again that you are one of Wikipedia's finest. 📜 el.ziade (talkallam) 15:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and right back at ya! FunkMonk (talk) 16:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, and thank you today for Rodrigues night heron, introduced: "Looks like it has been a few years since the last extinct Mascarene bird at FAC, so here's one more. Most that has ever been published about the species is summarised here, and the two known contemporary accounts are given for context and flavour."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 09:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 09:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Extinction - Smilodon fatalis, Aenocyon dirus, Panthera atrox, Bison antiquus, Equus occidentalis, Paramylodon harlani, Camelops hesternus
Hello FM, you may find this useful: "Pre-Younger Dryas megafaunal extirpation at Rancho La Brea linked to fire-driven state shift" DOI:10.1126/science.abo3594 - it is limited to the Rancho La Brea area, but is a fascinating piecing together. 182.239.152.166 (talk) 11:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, seems it has already been added to at least the Smilodon article, but maybe there is potential for more expansion based on it? FunkMonk (talk) 11:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Peer review ibex
Would you be able to peer review Alpine ibex? You did the GA review ten years ago. Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * A blast from the past hehe. It looks a bit short, any chance of expansion? FunkMonk (talk) 23:15, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Giganotosurus weight
Actually the giganotosurus wasn't like 15 tons in weight since the Tyrannosaurus is now like 12 tons WaspDragon2000 (talk) 13:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you need to look at the sources. FunkMonk (talk) 19:15, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't get this. You seem to have endorsed this edit of WaspDragon2000, something similar you've reverted here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:55, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * What have I endorsed? The writing is very problematic (no regard for scientific formatting conventions), and it changes text that already reflects the sources used in the article. FunkMonk (talk) 20:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, looks like I accidentally reverted your reversion, because I hadn't seen there was an edit in between, has now been fixed by another editor. FunkMonk (talk) 20:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually you reverted you reversion not mine, restoring WaspDragon2000's problematic writing in the process. Anyway, it is has been corrected by SlvrHwk. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:52, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm officially confused, but good that it has been taken care of, hehe... FunkMonk (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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Arctodus
Hi! After recent feedback, I have spent a while trying to slim down and making info more concise in the Arctodus article, with thousands of bytes and words reworked/removed. I was wondering, how do you think it looks like now? There were some suggestions that this could be a GA or FA, do you have any recommendations of which I should pursue? I'm just not sure how close I am right now to those avenues. SuperTah (talk) 10:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, it still seems longer than most other similar articles (I don't think a species article split would make sense here, since most info seems to be about A. simus anyway), but I'll take a closer look when I'm done with some FA reviews. You could consider sending it to WP:paleo peer review for "expert" comments. FunkMonk (talk) 16:16, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yes that is a fair observation, although I'm hoping that the Mosasaurus, Brachiosaurus and Woolly Mammoth articles are enough of a precedent for an 11,000 word count haha. If we're desperate, the regional paleoecology section seems the best to delete/share info into other sections. Which would be a shame, but understandable.
 * Wanted to ask though, the peer review last year largely dealt with mostly the same article. If it's okay to send it again so soon then great, otherwise do you think a Fact Check would be more suitable? SuperTah (talk) 04:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That was a "regular" peer review, wasn't it? I don't think you sent it to the paleo PR before, it's different, more specialised people there. FunkMonk (talk) 18:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yep, I did send it through the 'regular' peer review- but based off the link you sent me, it would seem like the 'Fact Check' is the WP:Paleontology review process, whereas the 'Full Peer Review' is the standard Wiki process I think I did. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding, but then should I go ahead with the Fact Check? SuperTah (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Huh, I never realised that the page limits "full peer review" to the more general PR page, because we have had plenty of full PRs directly on the paleo PR page. Pinging in case he remembers what went on when we set it up. FunkMonk (talk) 23:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, so far we often didn't keep our promise and provided a full review anyways. The initial idea was to provide something where expectations are lower than at regular peer review, so that inexperienced editors can show and discuss their work without needing to bring it to GA level. With this, we wanted to get more folks into writing. But it is intended to be flexible; if you ask for GA preparation, you will get it. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 00:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought, but maybe we should make it clearer in the text that the page isn't only for fact checks, as it currently makes it seem like the only venue for full PRs are the regular PR? FunkMonk (talk) 00:31, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Just to confirm, should I click on the 'Fact Check' option, but then specify that I'm requesting a Paleo Peer Review? SuperTah (talk) 06:44, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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My GA review of Talk:Lise with a Parasol/GA1
Hi - I just did my first GA review of the above. Please could you check that I've followed the process correctly and that you believe the above is GA-status worthy. If there are any issues please let me know. Thank you! GnocchiFan (talk) 11:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, sure, at a glance, it seems there are some WP:duplinks, and some of the footnotes could need citations. Also, it is very uncommon to pass an article without brining up any issues at all; you can bring up any issue you can think of, even if they're not important enough to be necessary to implement, it can just be friendly suggestions. FunkMonk (talk) 16:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you want to resubmit it, I have no objections. I've been trying to improve this article for years. Another month is no big whoop.  Feel free to put it on GAR if that is an easier route.  I'm fine with that. Viriditas (talk) 04:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's not really what I'm saying, I'm trying to give the first time reviewer hints as how to do a GAN review. FunkMonk (talk) 04:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries, thank you for the advice! I will take this on board in the future GnocchiFan (talk) 18:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Could you help me find the duplicate references here? I can't seem to find them in the article, sorry. GnocchiFan (talk) 20:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, this is the script I use to highlight them: FunkMonk (talk) 20:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for helping with this review. I have now fixed some of problems mentioned, but I am willing to fix more if GnocchiFan is feeling up to it. Viriditas (talk) 22:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always.



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Aww, thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 14:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! - On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello
Hello FunkMonk I brought the article Sei whale to GA after working on it for some time. After losing its featured star, I'm considering bringing it back to FA. If you could review the article at peer review, it would be really appreciated. Thanks for your time. 20 upper (talk) 08:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, interesting, I'll have a look. So it was brought to FA by someone else? FunkMonk (talk) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, here's the nomination. 20 upper (talk) 09:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, that was way back in 2006, the FA criteria have become quite a bit stricter since. But nice that you're looking into it. FunkMonk (talk) 10:35, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Just wondering why you would redirect something to another redirect. 20 upper (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I usually just link terms off the top of my heads, and sometimes they're not in the exact same form as the article destination, but usually bots will fix that. FunkMonk (talk) 10:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey FunkMonk, if you don't want to review the article, you can just say so; I can find someone else. 20 upper (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No no, I'm still on it, just haven't gotten the time yet. Also note that anyone can theoretically comment on a peer review, so there's no limit to number of reviews (same for FAC). FunkMonk (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Translations
Hey there Funk, any chance I could solicit your help in a couple translations? These are all parts of sources in the Lokrume helmet fragment article. Google Translate/ChatGPT are helpful in getting the meaning across, but more accurate translations would be helpful. And who better to help translate bits of four languages than someone who speaks all of them?
 * Danish: To fund af smedeværktöi fra den sidste hedenske tid i Danmark
 * Two finds of smithing tools from the last pagan age in Denmark


 * Danish: Annaler for Nordisk Oldkyndighed og Historie
 * Annals of Nordic ancient knowledge and history


 * Norwegian: Gjermundbufunnet: En høvdingegrav fra 900-årene fra Ringerike
 * The Gjermundbu find: a chieftain grave from the 900s from Ringerike


 * Swedish: Fornvännen (The Friend of the Past? The Friend of the Distant Past?)
 * Your translation is pretty much it. Less directly translated could be the friend of history or something like that.


 * German: Helm und Ringschwert: Prunkbewaffnung und Rangabzeichen germanischer Krieger
 * Helmet and ring-sword: ornamental weapons and insignia of Germanic warriors


 * German: Studien zur Sachsenforschung
 * Studies in Saxon research, but just sounds redundant, so not sure...
 * Your translation is correct. "Sachsenforschung" is the field of study, so this is similar to "Studies in biology".


 * German: Die Wikingerzeit Gotlands
 * The Viking age of Gotland

Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 13:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, I've translated the Scandinavian ones, my German is pretty weak, so pinging . FunkMonk (talk) 14:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thank you very much. Two follow-up questions: For Fornvännen, does either of "The Friend of the Past" or "The Friend of the Distant Past" seem more correct? I've seen both versions. And for Gjermundbufunnet, is it "a chieftain grave" or "a chieftain's grave"? --Usernameunique (talk) 15:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if "forn" necessarily has to be "distant", though that's of course what is implied in this context. I'd just keep it simple. As for the grave, "chieftain's grave" would be "høvdings grav", so I think "chieftain grave" fits "høvdingegrav" better, as it is used here as a general term. But both could work. FunkMonk (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks again—very helpful. Two more questions, which I think should finish it off. Is "Norske Oldfunn" (Norwegian) "Norwegian Antiquities"? And do you what the English equivalent of "Typentafeln" (German) is? --Usernameunique (talk) 20:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I added the German translations. "Typentafeln" should mean something like "fact sheets", e.g., a table used by researchers to summarize important information of a type of object. But not entirely sure if there is some special meaning in archaeology. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 23:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jens! "Norske Oldfunn" would directly translated be something like "ancient Norwegian finds" or "Norwegian finds from ancient times". Antiquities is maybe a bit more general? FunkMonk (talk) 13:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both. Appreciate all the help. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

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Woolly mammoth
Hi @FunkMonk, I fully support your insistence, but the issue here as I see it is that these assertions are not sourced (at least not in a way that would be apparent). So if their accuracy is also debatable we might as well delete them. Don't expect me to reply before tomorrow AndersenAnders (talk) 14:58, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, this should be discussed on the talk page of the article so that others can see it an chime in. The sentence is sourced to one of the citations that come after, most likely Lister. FunkMonk (talk) 15:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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