User talk:HoldenV8

Not sure if you're aware of it mate, but on the Australian Speedway Sidecar Championship page, Grand Bond finished 3rd in the 2014 Championship, with Darrin Treloar winning another one. Second place is correct. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cruisemcvie (talk • contribs) 04:57, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia!!!
Please be careful with links, and check them with the 'show preview' function instead of 'save page'. HDT links to heat deflection temperature, nothing whatsoever to do with the Holden Dealer Team. --Falcadore 21:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Could probably remove darcy ward from th Australian speedway world cup national team page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:218:4800:CDC3:C132:9248:B968 (talk) 21:14, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

NSWRL seasons
Hi there. Could I just ask you to do me a favour and refrain from removing all the redlinks on NSWRL seasons' articles? They might not look attractive, but they're very important and helpful when creating new articles for players.--Jeff79 (talk) 05:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates
I noticed your addition of coordinates to the Norfolk Scope article. How do you go about getting those coordinates, and what does the nomenclature about scale, etc. have to do with the location? 842U (talk) 13:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I notice you've been using coor title dms to add title coordinates to articles. That, and a lot of other coordinate templates, are being replaced by coord. Also, if an infobox has a provision for including coordinates, it's better (IMHO) to use that rather than to have another template down at the bottom. —WWoods (talk) 07:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, it's ordinarily unnecessary to specify the position of a large object down to the hundredth of a second. (Unless you're trying to target a cruise missile on a particular player.) —WWoods (talk) 08:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:128px-Manly_Sea_Eagles_home_jersey_1976.svg.png
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Rugby League edits
Hi - it's great to see you adding to the rugby league stats. To help even more, would you mind:
 * popping in the reference you use for the playing stats in the infobox. If it is the Rugby League Project, for example, just add the link inside a square bracket like this:
 * source = RLP
 * followed by the RLP or NRL Stats, whatever the source.


 * remove the new = yes parameter from the infobox once you have added the stats
 * if you replace the old position links, you only need to use one, like this:  for multiple positions - makes for less typing!
 * for retired players, it isn't necessary to put in an "updated" date
 * Many thanks! &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 16:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

British drivers
If you investigate Clark and Stewart's Formula 1 results, plus drivers like Coulthard, Franchitti, John Cleland etc, Scotland is not treated as a national and all Scottish drivers are considered British. Long established wikipedia practice, you need to take this arguement up elsewhere. --Falcadore (talk) 20:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

List of GAA stadia
Thanks for adding the coords the List of GAA stadia, please note that sortible tables cant use row span as they team breaks when you sort it Gnevin (talk) 20:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Garth Tander
I would ask if possible, not to include individual race results into the career results tables, it could massively blow out the length of these tables, for example what of someone decided it was edit-worthy to add all of Peter Brock's Bathurst 1000, then someone else decides that the Sandown 500 was a significant part of his career, then the table is 50 lines longer. I believe that individual races should be refered to in the narrative rather than the table for this reason. --Falcadore (talk) 21:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

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 * I think (hope?) I've fixed this one. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:18, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. Apparently not. (See below.)
 * You're going to have to fix this yourself. If you want/need my help, feel free to ask. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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March 2009
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Painful pedants
As I said before, if you'd like my help, please feel free to ask. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm.
 * Are you going to do anything useful to prevent those pictures from being deleted?
 * Regarding this edit, may I bother you to explain why you reverted "AUD$16m" back to "$16m AUD"?
 * Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Distinctive Homes Dome.jpg
I really would prefer that this file was NOT deleted. If it is not in violation of copyright, then PLEASE add source details to the page - don't worry about templates and/or formats, if necessary, I'll sort that out, but I really do need that basic data from you if we are going to save this picture from deletion. Pdfpdf (talk) 09:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Your uploads
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The Dome
Five metres into the ground. Wow, that's a big hole! (I wonder what they did with all that dirt?)

The reason I'm writing is that the info box says "The Powerhouse" is both a current nickname and a former name of the Dome. As you would know, (and I don't know), could you please decide which is the correct option and remove the other? Thanks. --Pdfpdf (talk) 23:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Currencies
Hi, I've noticed you've been going around and fixing up or adding infoboxes to sporting grounds and stadiums etc... and that's great. Just to let you know, though, that per the Wikipedia Manual of Style on Currencies, a currency value should be written as   rather than   or any other combination. -- timsdad  (talk) 00:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Icons in infoboxes
Hi - before you get too carried away adding icons to infoboxes, we've just spent the last few months removing them in line with WP:MOSFLAGS. So if you could stop now, that'd be really helpful! Thanks,  florrie  08:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I gather you don't feel like being helpful.  florrie  08:47, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Cheers,  florrie  15:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Infobox source
Hi. Please see User_talk:SpecialWindler.--Jeff79 (talk) 17:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Coord template
Hi, please do not keep removing the parameters to the coord template. The region, type and scale parameters are used to set up the geohack page and for passing on to external users of our data. Many thanks. Keith D (talk) 23:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Google Earth images
Hi HoldenV8, I'm fairly sure that screenshots from Google Earth are not public domain (as you have marked some of them). Just letting you know as you may need to adjust the copyright license tags on them. Regards -- Chuq (talk) 04:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

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May 2009
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Bidgee (talk) 05:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Oval pictures
Hey! Good stuff!! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

However, you need to be more careful / dilligent regarding copyright issues. There's no point in uploading copyright images - you're just wasting everybody's time (including your own), and disappointing those (like me) who like the pictures. Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

St Andrew's (stadium)
Hi. I've reverted your edits to St Andrew's (stadium). Some reasons are more important than others. Particularly, you removed the metric conversion from the pitch size: this is required by the Manual of Style, and removed the source citation from this item without explanation. You may be unaware, but there is a consensus that footy stadium infoboxes don't contain full postal address, even if correct, which the one you added to St Andrew's was not, but just the general location, including the country. And I'd advise you to stop marking edits as minor when they are no such thing (you can turn this marking off at My preferences/Editing/Mark all edits minor by default). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi there, just a related note so say that postcodes are not needed in an encyclopaedic article. Just a basic location (e.g. the city and neighbourhood) will suffice. Such things are not difficult to find. Please do not remove the – for a plain "-", use the first icon in the insert bar beneath the "Save page button". Wikipedia does have plenty of non-standard things in the raw code but this is not an indication that there is something wrong or it needs removing. It is there for a reason, and usually a good one. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 14:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it mate. Cheers! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 16:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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Baseball Stadia
How do you know the measurements of the fields you've edited?  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 13:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * They're not perfect, but I'm impressed, they're pretty close. You play baseball in Queensland, or not?  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 11:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Football Park
Hi, again. Your recent edit on Football Park has again brought up some things I've tried to bring up, but you appear to refuse to discuss.


 * Consensus reached at this discussion and many other discussions has decided that the stadium articles shall be named as their non-sponsored names (Football Park, not AAMI Stadium). You did not move the page, but you changed the stadium name in the infobox to AAMI Stadium and added Football Park to the former names. Football Park is not its former name, it is its current, neutral name.


 * You have been told many times on this talk page that many of the edits you mark as minor are not indeed minor edits. See WP:MINOR.

Piping of links

 * You changed  to  . The former is preferred as a reader can visit the article on South Australia when they click on the 'South Australia' part, rather than the whole link being to West Lakes.


 * You also changed  to  . This isn't a big problem, but there is something we call "avoiding redirects" which means piping links (see WP:PIPE) so that when the link is clicked, one will not be redirected to another page.

Thanks, and please reply here or on my talk page. -- timsdad  (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Ballparks
You're making a lot of changes to ballpark articles, with no discussion, and for no obvious reason. You need to bring this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball before you do any more of this work. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Cleaning up under what guidelines? For example, why are you rounding metric figures up to the nearest whole meter? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:23, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You should also go to User:Blackngold29's page and address his concerns. Also, after 3 years here you should know to sign your posts with 4 tildes. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You said you would start adding 4 tildes, and didn't even do it in that very comment. What's up with that? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, that change was actually done before I said about the tidles. Won't happen again.
 * Except it just did. Do you actually know what a tilde is? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about the edit summaries, I'm talking about comments on talk pages. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 09:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You get the point, except you're refusing to do it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 13:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

"I'm not refusing to do anything." - Whether you're agreeing (or not) is not the point. The point is, you are NOT doing it. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Which is ill-mannered on his part, but is also a distraction from the main point, that he is making changes to a bunch of articles without talking to anyone about it, and has started to get reverted for it. Whether that reversion continues will depend on when (or if) anyone at the project page takes notice of it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Finally you did so, on the last post. Thank you! Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Marking edits as minor
You've been warned many times already. Do not mark edits such as this minor. From WP:MINOR: "A check to the minor edit box signifies that only superficial differences exist between the current and previous version: type corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearranging of text without modifying content, et cetera. A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. An edit of this kind is marked in its page's revision history with a lower case, bolded "m" character (m).

By contrast, a major edit is one that should be reviewed for its acceptability to all concerned editors. Therefore, any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if the edit concerns a single word; for example, the addition or removal of "not", which can vastly change the meaning of a sentence, paragraph, section or article, is a major edit.

The distinction between major and minor edits is significant because editors may choose to ignore minor edits when reviewing recent changes; logged-in users might even set their preferences to not display them. If there is any chance that another editor might dispute a change, it is best to not mark the edit as minor.

Users who are not logged into are not permitted to mark changes as minor because of the potential for vandalism. The ability to mark changes as minor is one of many reasons to register.

A good rule of thumb is that edits consisting solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.'"

This is your last warning. —EncMstr (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

B24 Succession box
With only two races in its history - a succession box for the Bathurst 24 hour is surely pointless? --Falcadore (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not suggesting that the accomplishment be ignored. With just two occurances there will never be on occasion where the succession box is completely filled. The purpose of these succession boxes is to track long running histories of events. Two years is not long running. Neither is five years. Even ten would be questionable.
 * It is an achievement certainly deserving highlighting, but certainly not a succession box. There is a fault within wikipedia's editting policy to try an put tables and statistics instead of prose text, because it is easier to defend in a challenge, less deniable, whatever. This is a trend we must fight. We should not be afraid to write events out in sentences. --Falcadore (talk) 20:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Again I ask about the pointlessness of a two event succession box, as you did not really justify it the first time around. The effort expended by the crews concerned does not magically created more races. You might as well add a succession box for the Calder 500 WTCC race. There was only one of them, but it was such a strenous race... please, I ask that the achievemnt be highlighted in text form, rather than a succession box that does not actually lead anywhere. --Falcadore (talk) 07:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

A9X Toranas
I'd be a bit wary about changing the descriptions of A9X Toranas. User:GTHO, who has put a lot of work into correcting model names of Australian cars has asserted previously that the A9X's had specific models names, SS5000 for the Hatchback, and SLR, maintaining the link to the previous LH Torana for the four door. --Falcadore (talk) 20:39, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The Holden Torana page states that "This was the 'A9X Option' that became available on the four door SL/R 5000 and two-door SS hatchback in 5.0 litre V8 form". I believe that to be correct. I'll check through my issues of "Australian Muscle Car" and provide more on this soon. --GTHO (talk) 00:37, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "Australia Muscle Car" Issue 35, page 52 states: "Model 8VD96 (Torana SL/R sedan) and 8VD77 (Torana SS hatchback) were the starting vehicles for the A9X". The same page has a reproduction of "GM Parts & Accessories News" No 444 of 31 August 1977 which reads "Distributors and Dealers are advised that a Performance Equipment Package is to be released under Option A9X on "SLR 5000" Sedans & "SS" 5 Litre Hatchback". --GTHO (talk) 01:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason why you are still changing entries for the A9X Sedan from SLR 5000 A9X Sedan to SS A9X Sedan? GTHO (talk) 03:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Kangaroos jersey image
Please stop adding the kangaroos jersey image to players' articles. They're all going to be removed again.--Jeff79 (talk) 17:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Malcolm Rea
Rea's first Carina in 1993 was a T170. --Falcadore (talk) 11:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, VN SS Group A's were VN SS Group A SV. The SV title was added to both Walinshaw produced SS Group As. --Falcadore (talk) 12:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

And the Lansvale VL in 1989 was a carburetted VL, not the injected SV version - did you check any of these or just make assumptions? --Falcadore (talk) 12:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Bathurst 24 Hour
It is the prefered form for Sports and GT races to leave all cars/links connected, refer 2003 24 Hours of Le Mans for an example of how the Sports/GT results sheets are handled. --Falcadore (talk) 05:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's worth looking at the Repeated links section in Wikipedia Help which states that tables are an exception to the rule on avoiding repeated links and that “each row should be able to stand on its own”. In other words repeated links should not be removed from any table. GTHO (talk) 03:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Waggott TC4V
The four cylinder Waggott engine was based on a Ford motor (Cortina/Kent if memory serves without looking up - but do not take that as gospell - confirm), the same engine which also become the Cosworth FVA. --Falcadore (talk) 22:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Similarly Repco worked on many different engines, not just the GM-based F1 engine and the Holden V8 based F5000 engine (which did not go into regular production until 1969 so how Matich could put it into his SR3 in 1968 would have been interesting). For example Repco also worked on the Maybach engine which powered the Maybach specials in the 1950s. Like Merv Waggott's smaller operation they were engine tuners rather than constructors. --Falcadore (talk) 03:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you need to re-read the Waggott website because it says nothing like what you've just told me. The four cylinder engine simply could not be based on the Holden grey motor for the simple reason that the Holden grey motor is a six cylinder engine. The website descibes two completely different engines, the Waggott TC and the Waggott TC4V. It says on multiple occassions the TC is Holden based, and the photos clearly show it to be a six cylinder engine. It does not say anywhere the four cylinder engine, the TC4V is Holden based (to quote - 1968 New complete 2000cc TC4V race motor all designed and manufactured “in house”. No mention of Holden anyway). And just to cap it, is there any such thing as a four cylinder Holden engine? Before the Starfire 4 (which isn't a Holden motor to begin with) there simply wasn't a four cylinder product until... I'm not sure when but surely the 1970's? So how could they have magically created a four cylinder Holden engine?
 * Please get your facts straight. --Falcadore (talk) 11:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Allan Moffat's Ford Boss 302 Mustang
Please don’t replace “Ford Boss 302 Mustang” entries for Allan Moffat with “Ford Mustang Tans Am” as there is really no such thing as a “Ford Mustang Trans Am”. The Moffat car was originally built up as a Ford Boss 302 Mustang to race in the 1969 Trans Am Series but was subsequently modified to CAMS Group C Improved Production Touring Car regulations to allow it to compete, as a Ford Boss 302 Mustang, in Australian Touring Car races. And it actually raced here with “Boss 302” stickers on its flanks. GTHO (talk) 03:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Similarly the 'Super' Falcon nonsense. Why don't we start calling HDT Commdores 'Brock-mobiles' then? Or maybe Dick Johnson's XD could be relabeled 'Rock Car'. Or the Lowndes 00 Falcon could be the Green Eyed Monster. --Falcadore (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Bathurst 1000
Linking. You don't have to delete all the links in the tables. While in the V8 Supercar article with only Falcons and Commodores it doesn't matter so much, but when there are a lot of different cars deleting all bar one of the links can make difficult to find the one link. --Falcadore (talk) 13:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

1985 Challenge Cup final
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 * Hi. Thank you for working on rewriting this, but I'm afraid that what we have now is an unauthorized derivative work. It's best when addressing copyright concerns to rewrite from scratch. I've blanked the article for now to permit time to address this.


 * For two examples, first compare your opening "is one of the only specially designed bitumen surface hillclimbs in the world. Its dates go back to 1935, when representatives from the Light Car Club of Australia inspected a property known as Clinton's Pleasure Grounds with a view to establishing a suitable venue for the hillclimb meetings." to the source: " one of the only specially designed bitumen surface hillclimbs in the world. Its origins go back to 1935, when representatives from the then Light Car Club of Australia inspected the property known as Clinton's Pleasure Grounds with a view to establishing a suitable venue for the hillclimb meetings." Only a few words separate this text.


 * For a second, jumping to the close, you have "The track and surrounding area were ravaged by bushfires in 1962 and sadly fell into disuse for several years but in 1992 the MG Car Club of Victoria was successful in obtaining a ten year lease on the property and they set about re-building the track. The result was a faithful re-creation of the original track which is again one of the premier hillclimb venues in Australia." The source says, "In 1962 the area was ravaged by bushfires and the track unfortunately fell into disuse.... In 1992 the MG Car Club was successful in obtaining a ten year lease on the property, and reconstruction began.... The result was a faithful re-creation of the original track."


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Lap records
I don't know where you are getting some of this from but the Port Wakefield lap record was completely wrong. What else were you unsure of? --Falcadore (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Fastest lap at the 1955 AGP was a 63.1. The circuit was open for another six years afterwards and lap times dropped below 60 seconds. A 49 second lap time is purely in the realms of fantasy. --Falcadore (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The reference I used to write the article originally stated the '55 grand Prix fastest lap time was a 1:03.1, and another book I have states the lap time dropped below a minute without stating how far and who did it. I can do some additional digging but right at the second I have a few other things going. What you put up was wrong, I'm not going to leave it there pending better data. --Falcadore (talk) 01:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And yes you did write a 49 second lap - see here. --Falcadore (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Lap record doesn't mean 'fastest lap you know of', if you don't have a source stating that it was the lap record, don't add it. --Falcadore (talk) 01:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have found a source stating that Bib Stillwell record a 56.0 at the 1960 Gold Star round, but I have no way of knowing that it became the final lap record. --Falcadore (talk) 05:57, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Tony Longhurst Racing
Nice work on all the additional material, but the team did win an actual championship, you might want to add that. --Falcadore (talk) 05:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Delinking results tables
Why are you delinking the Bathurst results tables? Please stop doing this. GTHO (talk) 03:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it has been indicated before that in tables you do not remove links. Correct link to more accurate locations by all means but do not remove links. --Falcadore (talk) 07:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I may be out of order re this. My plea to stop the deletion of repeated links in results tables was based on the relevant Help page as I had last seen it, i.e. when it specified that tables were an exception to the "repeated links" rule. The exception wording has since been changed from “tables” to “long sortable tables”, which suggests to me that multiple links in non-sortable tables may no longer be condoned. Please see |Help. What do we think? GTHO (talk) 03:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Any table longer than about twenty lines should not be delinked, particular old school Bathursts as if, for example, the car you are looking at is not linked, then you have to search through the other entries to find it. In a long entry with wide variety that could take a while. Don't want to make it too difficult for casual browsers to use. Look at the Le Mans 24 Hour races by way of example, everything is linked. --Falcadore (talk) 04:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Easternats
For your information: 

The riots were actually quite well publicised. The event at Winton carried a different name. Easternats are for all practical purposes, dicontinued. --Falcadore (talk) 23:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Formula One car infobox updates
Hey, many thanks for putting some time into the car articles lately. It would be a good idea if you could be a bit careful about some of your edits though, please. In a number of cases you are actually making the infobox worse, not better. For example, the recent changes you made to the Renault RE40 article included switching a pipe for carbon fiber-reinforced polymer to simply carbon fiber and V6 engine to V6, and you removed all the punctuation. F1 cars aren't made of carbon fiber; that is quite floppy, fragile stuff. The material commonly referred to in that context as "carbon fiber" is actually the composite. Links should be precise. It is also conceivable that there will one day be a V6 disambiguation page. I know it redirects at the moment to the right place but it may not always be so, so removing precise pipes is going to effort that may just need repeating (probably by someone who isn't you) down the road. I appreciate that you are trying to improve things, and thank you for that, but with just a little more attention to detail it would save someone having to go round after you and clean up.  Pyrop e  04:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

"Updating" engine and chassis info
Hey, just another comment on your recent edits. You say you are "updating" the chassis info in the results tables, except you aren't. You are introducing information that is implicit (the page is about car X so we don't need to be told that the results refer to car X, unless the page also covers variants XA and XB) and removing information on the car's entrant! Please stop. Feel free to add the engine name to the engine field, but removing the car's entrant field is not at all helpful.  Pyrop e  15:24, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

F1 car articles
Hi HoldenV8. Thanks for the work you have been doing on F1 car articles. A couple of minor points to note though: But apart from that, keep up the great work! DH85868993 (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * In the results tables, the "WCC" and "points" columns should only be shaded for 1st, 2nd and 3rd position in the championship
 * the WP:F1 standard abbreviation for "turbocharged" is "t/c" not "tc" (and likewise "s/c" for "supercharged")
 * we usually don't add "NA" to identify naturally aspirated engines in the results table, on the basis that this is the "default" engine type
 * engine links should not include the engine designation unless the linked article/section specifically covers that engine, e.g. Judd EV is OK, but Ferrari Tipo 036 should be written as Ferrari Tipo 036, since the Scuderia Ferrari article does not explicitly mention the Tipo 036 engine.
 * the "pole position" note is not included above the table if the car didn't score any pole positions (and likewise for fastest laps)

No worries to all that, it helps to get constructive criticism rather than outright criticism from time to timeHoldenV8 (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. One more item I forgot above - when creating new infoboxes, it's preferable to use Infobox racing car rather than the redirect Racing car. I don't think it's worth going back and changing the ones you have already created (unless you're editing the article for another reason anyway) but it's preferable not to use the redirect for new ones. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I would like to echo DH's thanks, and add a proviso of my own: WP:F1 articles are conventionally written in British English, so you should use "carbon fibre" instead of "carbon fiber" when describing the monocoque construction. Don't worry, as it's not of any significance overall.-- Midgrid (talk)  20:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Another minor point: in the car results tables, the race abbreviations should not be in bold (see the WP:F1 example table), so please start those lines with a "|", not a "!". Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 02:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * And another... sorry! We generally try to keep the number of flags in articles to a minimum, so in those articles that are not specifically about the drivers (such as the cars) the driver nationalities are only flagged once (in the infobox). As far as the results table goes, the drivers are just another component in the combination so are treated as such: surnames only and no flags. Check out the recent (last couple of years) cars for the format that has evolved. I know that there are a few older articles (heck, I created a few myself!) that don't conform to this, but we are trying slowly to standadise things. Bye for now.  Pyrop e  16:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Australian Motorsport articles
I invite your comment and participation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian motorsport please? Thank you for your consideration. --Falcadore (talk) 23:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Recent 1980s Bathurst 1000 edits
You did notice the column you've been chaning is listed as Team, not Entry. Entry reflects whatever is on the entry form and can take the form of a myriad different sponsored identities from year to year. Team is focussed on connecting a link to the correct article with regards to a motor racing team. For example, for a couple of years in the late 80s, Andrew Miedecke and Andrew Bagnall had different entries, but their Ford Sierras were run out of the same team, along with briefly Kevin Waldock, run by one of the Stone brothers prior to the Stone in question (can't remember which) joined Dick Johnson Racing. --Falcadore (talk) 23:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And you shouldn't link to disambiguation pages like John Goss. --Falcadore (talk) 23:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

JPS Team BMW
You know they went through a few iterations of the 3 Series. They started with the 323i. 325i that came later might have been a six cylinder, have to look it up but the 323i and 325i had completely different engine configurations. --Falcadore (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Volvo in the ATCC
The Volvo team wasn't re-vamped between 1985 & 1986, they were completely different teams. 1985 was a largely privately funded New Zealand team run by businessman Mark Petch. 1986 was a factory racing team run by noted competition preparer George Sheppard mostly bankrolled by the Australian distributor. --Falcadore (talk) 13:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Holden VN Commodore SS Group A SV
Re the SV tag on the Holden VN Commodore SS Group A SV, you may like to check out the Holden VN Commodore SS Group A SV entry on the HSV Classics page. GTHO (talk) 06:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

It appears that HSV themselves disagree with you. Have a read of the very first sentence. Personally, I'm going with them. They built it. --Falcadore (talk) 07:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Holden VL Commodore SS Group A SV‎
This article is one of a group targetted for merger/deletion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. Rather than expand the VL SV, a better approach would be to convert to article into one about all four Group A edition Commodores. --Falcadore (talk) 15:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Apostrophes
Hi HoldenV8. A minor note on punctuation: it's not necessary to use an apostrophe when making a plural, i.e. the plural of "Ferrari" is "Ferraris", not "Ferrari's". Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:45, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

F1 constructor and engine links
Hi HoldenV8. FYI, it's WP:F1 convention to link all occurrences of constructor and engine names in qualifying and race result tables, not just the first occurrence. Also, engine names should be linked to the engine manufacturer article, not subsections thereof, e.g. "Judd" should be linked to Judd (engine) not Judd (engine). If you disagree with these conventions, feel free to raise the matter for discussion at WP:F1, but in the meantime, please abide by the existing conventions. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's mainly about having consistency across the project. DH85868993 (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your edit to 1988 Mexican Grand Prix, because it delinked repeated constructors and engines in the race results table and failed to follow the WP:F1 naming convention for Ford engines, as detailed at WikiProject_Formula_One/Conventions. I appreciate your efforts adding in the qualifying tables, but not at the expense of corrupting the existing content. DH85868993 (talk) 07:38, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've restored your edit, with the links corrected. BTW, if you're planning on adding any more qualifying tables, one point to note is that the table should be located in the "Classification" section of the article - see 1988 Monaco Grand Prix as an example. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 10:58, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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Flag Icons
FYI - GER is not the three letter code for West Germany. Try FRG. --Falcadore (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Again - Germany did not exist prior to 1991 - West Germany should be used. --Falcadore (talk) 02:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mate, I wouldn't assume malice, apologies if it was taken the wrong way. --Falcadore (talk) 11:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Enduro Top threes
Why have these been added out of curiosituy? Seems out of place. --Falcadore (talk) 14:21, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Those that were already in place do not have accompanying articles and contained entrie results known. You may note that some of those have top six results or top eight, or full fields. As originially written it contained either full known results, or a link to the article which held them if that article existed. --Falcadore (talk) 14:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Lights & Norwood Oval
Sorry, but I'm a bit puzzled. Regarding the paragraph:
 * Night football returned to Norwood Oval during the early 2000s and Friday night games at the oval (all featuring The Redlegs) have been a regular feature in the SANFL ever since. With the popularity of the Friday night games, other clubs have started installing lights at their grounds with Elizabeth Oval (Centrals), Richmond Oval (West Adelaide) and Noarlunga Oval (South Adelaide) all having installed lights while Woodville-West Torrens are upgrading the lights at Thebarton Oval in a bid to play SANFL night games at the venue for the first time since the mid-1980s.

I have no problem with this bit:
 * Night football returned to Norwood Oval during the early 2000s and Friday night games at the oval (all featuring The Redlegs) have been a regular feature in the SANFL ever since. With the popularity of the Friday night games, other clubs have started installing lights at their grounds.

But please tell me, what has:
 * with Elizabeth Oval (Centrals), Richmond Oval (West Adelaide) and Noarlunga Oval (South Adelaide) all having installed lights while Woodville-West Torrens are upgrading the lights at Thebarton Oval in a bid to play SANFL night games at the venue for the first time since the mid-1980s.

got to do with an article about Norwood Oval? (i.e. If you don't explain why it's relevant, I'm going to remove it.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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Haas/Lola cars
Hi HoldenV8. You may have noticed that I have reverted your edits where you changed the "Lola" links for the 1985 Haas/Lola cars to link to Haas Lola instead of Lola Racing Cars. The existing convention is that references to the team link to Haas Lola but references to the cars link to Lola Racing Cars. However, I note that this is inconsistent with the fact that we have both "Haas/Lola" and "Lola" listed in the F1 constructors template, so I will raise the matter for discussion at WP:F1. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 09:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Editing suggestions
Hi HoldenV8. Thanks for the race summaries you have been adding to the Formula One race report articles. A couple of points to note: But apart from that, keep up the good work. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 10:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * pages like Italian, Australian, etc are usually disambiguation pages, and should not be linked to. To describe a driver's nationality, link to the article about the country instead, e.g. describe them as Italian, Australian, etc
 * it's best to avoid words like "sadly", "tragically", "unfortunately", etc as these are considered "editorialising" - see WP:EDITORIAL for more information
 * Also, V12 is a redirect to a disambiguation page, so to refer to the engine configuration, you need to write V12 . And even though V6, V8 and V10 redirect to V6 engine, V8 engine and V10 engine respectively, it's probably a good idea to always write V6, V8 and V10 anyway, in case the redirects change in the future. DH85868993 (talk) 11:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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"F1 car" infobox parameter
Hi HoldenV8. Please be careful not to remove the "F1 car" parameter when updating Formula car infoboxes as you did here - the parameter causes a footnote to be displayed in the infobox stating that the statistics refer to World Championship Grands Prix only. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 05:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * To clarify, you need to be careful not to remove the parameter for pre-1984 cars, but you also shouldn't give it a value for post-1983 cars, as you did here (It's unnecessary for post-1983 cars, because there haven't been any non-championship races since 1983). Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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F1 car technical information
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Everard Bartlett
Even though is says previous clubs, you still put Adelaide 36ers in there to keep track of it. That's why you put "-present". The same with Hawke's Bay Hawks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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I think somewhere you have been mis-informed. Con-Rod Straight (original spelling) is not and has never been two kilometres long. It was 1.6 km long prior to the Chase' construction. Caltex Chase was not installed to comply with FIA edict on lengths of straights. The calendar for the 1987 WTCC was announced in July 1986, well before 1986 Bathurst was held. The circuit was inspected and approved prior the 1986 Bathurst taking place. Burgmann himself, as an office bearer of the Australian Racing Drivers Club was a party to the negotiations. --Falcadore (talk) 07:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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How can the Elfin MS7 be completely written off in the 1984 crash when the car is alive and well and still winning races today? --Falcadore (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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Please note that is perfectly correct and more modern usage than. Please stop changing it for no good reason. Could you also please cite sources for the information you are adding to articles. --Michig (talk) 17:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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Interesting that you finally talk despite multiple attempts to get you to explain your conduct. Could you please explain why you have gone so long adding uncited material to so many articles. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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there are probably hundreds of edits where you have failed to provide citation for at least 18 months. and now you are arguing over 1 edit I made. the bigger picture here is the long standing behaviour, I'm surprised you are suddenly talking despite never before. but that's a start. LibStar (talk) 01:45, 29 June 2015 (UTC) best of your knowledge is not an excuse for providing large chunks of uncited information. you obviously have the skills to find sources. LibStar (talk) 03:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

as a start
you added quite a bit of uncited material to. you could start by fixing it up. thanks. LibStar (talk) 01:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * another large addition of uncited text. LibStar (talk) 06:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * have you made an effort to fix up your previous uncited edits? LibStar (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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YouTube is generally not considered reliable. You should using published sources. Did the YouTube clip confirmed The rumour floating around the F1 paddock in Italy was that Benetton were not actually going to pay Piquet a retainer, but that he would be on an incentive based contract, rumoured to be US$100,000 per World Championship point scored.? LibStar (talk) 18:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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If it's fact then why did you include text saying it's a rumour? LibStar (talk) 05:18, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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Have you considered archiving your talk pages as it's getting very long. Also I found Brett Mullins as another article where you have inserted a lot of uncited text. Can you you please provide citations. LibStar (talk) 06:41, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * here's another one where you should have added citations. Andrew Ettingshausen. Would you appreciated if you made the effort it to correct articles you've worked on. LibStar (talk) 04:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to citate each claim in Bob Batty and not expect others to do it for you. Also are you going back to your older articles of rugby league players and adding citations? I request a response on this. Thanks LibStar (talk) 09:26, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

As previously stated you've added large chunks of uncited text to Steven Menzies and Ivan Cleary. LibStar (talk) 09:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * again the onus is on you if you make individual claims you need to specifically back them. And again you avoid my question on whether you are going to make a real attempt to fix up your large uncited additions of text in league articles. Is there a reason you avoid this? LibStar (talk) 11:05, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * please respond to this.And again you avoid my question on whether you are going to make a real attempt to fix up your large uncited additions of text in league articles. Is there a reason you avoid this? LibStar (talk) 12:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Instead of starting new pages you should be concentrating on fixing your significant previous uncited material. These are modern players so you got the info from somewhere..You're getting really hung up over this Batty page suggest you WP:LETGO. LibStar (talk) 13:15, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * here's another one where you've added heaps of uncited text. 2014 Anzac Test. LibStar (talk) 05:00, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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Watching it on DVD and saying that is not reliable sourcing for Wikipedia. Otherwise anyone can use the same excuse. Suggest you stick to actual sourcing. LibStar (talk) 10:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Stop playing games . You've been warned before and you risk being blocked for your continual flaunting of the rules. Please stick to constructive editing. LibStar (talk) 11:01, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * If the DVD was professionally published (not something you recorded yourself), I think you should be able to cite the DVD as a source. Likewise, if it was broadcast on television, and the television channel has retained a recorded copy of the broadcast (ie it has not been wiped), I suspect you would be able to cite that. You would have to give a sufficient amount of information about the DVD or broadcast so as to clearly identify it so that other people could track it down. Please archive or delete part of the content on your talk page. Other editors can't easily help you or defend you from deletionists if your talk page is so long they can't edit it. James500 (talk) 03:57, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * again James500 is not neutral. Also Holden is incapable of archiving or removing comments from this pages. LibStar (talk) 13:31, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a personal attack. It was deliberately impersonal as far as I can tell as no users were named. Don't over react LibStar. --Falcadore (talk) 07:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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Can you please add citations to material you added 2 years ago. LibStar (talk) 17:02, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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You've been asked numerous times to stop adding uncited material. And you have made little effort to citate all the uncited material you've added the last 3 odd years. You know how to find sources. If this continues you run the real risk of being blocked. LibStar (talk) 03:33, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * it's obvious you want to continue ignoring warnings. Even an admin has told you to add citations.  I've seen people blocked for less extensive pattern of adding uncited material. Why do you find it so difficult to understand this basic requirement of Wikipedia. LibStar (talk) 03:41, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

You are now blatantly breaching rules about adding uncited material. If you were a new user I would understand but you really need to stop adding uncited material. If you have an issue with me raise it at WP:ANI. LibStar (talk) 14:56, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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here's another one where years ago you added a heap of uncited text. appreciate it if you can go back and citate. thanks LibStar (talk) 03:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * here's another one Craig Hancock. I notice you keep ignoring my requests. Your time spent adding material should be spent fixing years of uncited additions to rugby league articles. LibStar (talk) 14:25, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * I'll add to this - if you haven't read the ANI discussion, a supplementary reason for the block is your failure to respond to any of the warnings here. Doug Weller  talk 17:06, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

While I accept the block and this isn't about pleading my case, I just want to point out the behaviour of someone who is directly involved in this. For the past 2 or 3 or so years, LibStar has been harassing and stalking me at just about every turn. It didn't matter what the subject of the page was, from rugby league to speedway, there he was.

Just off the top of my head, I can recall in February 2016 one situation where I received a warning from Libstar over what he perceived as a personal attack on him. But as was shown, the (short) conversation I had with another user on this site (James500) had nothing to do with LibStar. There was also one instance where he reverted an edit I made to the Brett Mullins page. The information I added to the page was factual, however I could not find any reference online or elsewhere to it. Now fair enough, I do understand that things do need verification. But LibStar reverted it back to what was there previously (which also had no reference, but that seemed perfectly ok as to my unreferenced edit which was not) and it was actually incorrect information. When I pointed this out to Libstar, instead of answering my query on it he simply gave another warning for 'playing games'.

Under Wikihounding, the first sentence of the first paragraph reads "Wikihounding is the singling out of one or more editors, joining discussions on multiple pages or topics they may edit or multiple debates where they contribute, to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work." Well, this is exactly what LibStar has been doing with me. The only time LibStar didn't do this was for a period of about 3 or 4 months when I actually threatened to report him for exactly this. But I guess after a while he figured I wasn't going to do it so he just went straight back to it.

Oh, and as to why I repeatedly ignored LibStar. Put simply I got sick of him hounding me just about every step of the way in here so I just didn't bother with him.

As I said, this isn't about pleading my case as I understand and accept the reasons for the block. It is an official complaint that LibStar has been harassing and stalking me in Wikipedia for approximately 2-3 years.HoldenV8 (talk) 04:44, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * ignoring warnings and not improving yo ur long standing record of uncited additions is not an excuse. Other editors have contacted you on different matters and you flatly refuse to engage . As for wikihounding, if an editor is consistently flaunting the rules they can be monitored. I gave you every chance to improve and you even admit you just ignore these requests.  LibStar (talk) 09:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

To use a cricket term, like I said I accept the umpires's decision. This is about your behaviour through it all. You harassed and stalked just about everything I did on here for 2-3 years. Funny how in subjects where you had never appeared, if I did an edit suddenly there you were. Try and spin it how you like but what you did, as much as what I did, was a violation of the rules as far as they read.HoldenV8 (talk) 00:07, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * you had the opportunity to raise your concerns when I first raised concerns at an ANI days ago. Instead you ignored it and shift the blame onto me for your behaviour that I was indeed trying to make you correct. Many a time I was trying to encourage you to citate more and go back and fix your uncited edits over at least 4 years. Using a rugby league analogy you've had repeated unpunished infringements over a number of seasonso showing a defiance over the rules, the judiciary has had enough and permanently banned you. LibStar (talk) 00:15, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Re: Sockpuppetry
Oh this is just too funny, and TBH pretty bloody sad. A user called MyHolden51 has been blocked (26 October 2018) because they have been accused of being a sockpuppet of myself.

Since I, HoldenV8, was blocked, I have NOT made any new accounts and have NOT made any edits whatsoever in Wikipedia.

Do you lot actually have any proof that I am also MyHolden51???? Any proof at all??? NinjaRobotPirate I can 100% assure you that HoldenV8 and MyHolden51 are NOT the same person. Nor do I, HoldenV8, even know who MyHolden51 is.

Edit: Nor am I Holdenman05

Do you honestly think that if I made another account to edit things that I would be stupid enough to use a name that had Holden in it? HoldenV8 (talk) 09:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's possible I made a mistake, yes. But appearing out of nowhere, a year later, after I block several accounts that have crossover with you is bizarre. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:26, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * You definitely have made a mistake on this one I'm afraid. If MyHolden51 and Holdenman05 were blocked for legitimate reasons, then fine, that's their bad luck because like myself they've obviously done the wrong thing here. But being blocked for being sockpuppets of myself is wrong because neither are me. I have no idea who they even are. Today is actually the first time I've ever seen those names. HoldenV8 (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)