User talk:JIP/Archive 22

Quote
The quote on your user page ("When talking to a man, it's good to say the word "naked" every once in a while.") is a quote from the TV series Coupling (one of the funniest series around). Just thought you might want to know ;-) Adrianwn (talk) 08:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Abkhazia & South Ossetia
If you're interested in the matter, you may want to look at International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence where the situation among the developing countries is largely similar to what I expect their reaction to the Abkhazia and South Ossetia situation. (Note even there I think there are still a fair few we don't have a statement for, either because none exists or no one ever bothered to find one.) Most have said they won't recognise Kosovo independence in the circumstances either because they think a unilateral declaration of independence sets a dangerous precedent or that it's not helpful and the parties should continue diplomacy. Some Islamic countries have recognised Kosovo (largely because of the mostly Muslim population IMHO) but even a number of them while supportive of the idea of an independent Kosovo have not recognised it. I think many developing countries consider both situations a mess they don't want to get involved in (so they aren't in a hurry to annouce anything) and would say what happened with South Ossetia and Abkhazia an example of whats happens when you set a precedent of recognising unilateral declarations of independence like happened with Kosovo. Many are probably also concerned for the implications for them if parts of them declare independence. Nil Einne (talk) 18:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Gopal Menon
Could you please provide a valid reason for deleting this page?
 * 06:01, 30 August 2008 JIP (Talk | contribs) deleted "Gopal Menon" ‎ (WP:PROD, reason was .) 06:01, 30 August 2008 JIP (Talk | contribs) deleted "Gopal Menon" ‎ (WP:PROD, reason was .) Msandhyarao (talk) 11:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, there does not appear to have been a valid reason. I have undeleted the page. J I P | Talk 15:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response - appreciate it! Msandhyarao (talk) 03:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Finnish military ranks
Thank you for your point. I agree, in Finland, Finnish named ranks are used. Those articles should, therfore, be named by their Finnish rank with links from the Swedish named rank to those. I was born in Rovaniemi Finland and my mothers’ tongue is Finnish, yet it is easier to understand the Swedish version of the ranks for others. Do you have any ideas how to achieve a balance?

The reason I combine Swedish and Finnish ranks are for historical reasons as Swedish and Finnish military units and ranks have been near identical for hundreds of years as well as my desire to balance the view of the Swedish armed forces using the Finnish armed forces as a benchmark. Finland is chosen as a benchmark for a number of other reasons as well: The Finnish armed forces are based on solid battle experience; Finnish military units are trained on terrain that is similar to that of Sweden; and in the event of conflict Sweden is expected to meet the same class of enemy units as Finland.

Aside from the topic, my view is that Swedish military forces should learn from Finland as Finland has been very successful in their military operations ever since the 16th century up to WW2. I am an great admirer of Finland and its armed forces and regard them as one of the worlds best.

Please feel free to improve those articles as there are lots more to be done.

Best Regards, --Malin Randstrom (talk) 06:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Done: I have now changed as far as I could, according to your points, the ranks into Finnish. Pure Finnish ranks such as Alikersantti are all in Finnish with Swedish translations such as Undersergeant inside round brackets. However, ranks that are common to Sweden and Finland, such as Fältväbel, remain in Swedish with Finnish translations inside round brackets. The reason for this is that Vääpeli, in contrast to Alikersantti, is originally from the now obsolete Swedish rank Fältväbel and that Fältväbel was in use even in the Finnish speaking inland regiment Savolax until the end of Swedish governance over Finland.
 * Best Regards, --Malin Randstrom (talk) 09:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

National Alliance for Hispanic Health deletion
Hello JIP, I'm curious about an article that you had a hand in deleting in May, called National Alliance for Hispanic Health. According to the warnings, it sounds like the article was written using advertising language, and that it was created/deleted again later. I heard about the issue from someone I know who works with them, who asked if I could look into it. I've done some basic research and it stands to reason that the group should pass WP:NOTE, and that a neutral, reliably sourced article would stand. I'd like to give a try at writing it. Looking at the deletion review policy, it seems I might be able to recreate it without issue, but because it was created and deleted more than once, I'd like to be sure it's not blocked or otherwise flagged. Let me know when you get a chance. (Also, I'm going to pose this same question to the editor who deleted the page in in August). Thanks. WWB (talk) 16:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

MySurfPad.com deletion
Hello,

I would like to get more clarity on why you had deleted the article on MySurfPad. The article I had written had not marketing spin to it whatsoever, it was strictly informational. Please advise, thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waleedb (talk • contribs) 14:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Civil War (album)
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 * Hm, probably because you deleted the prodded Civil War (Dillinger Four album) on 01:15, September 9, 2008. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I "suffer" from the same condition. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Civil War (album)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Civil War (album), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Civil War (album). Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, no, I deliberately included you because you were involved in deletion/restoration. You don't HAVE to get involved, you know ... ;-) - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Pakpassion Deletion
Dear Sir,

Could you please let us know why our page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakpassion was deleted.

I see the discussion speaks of "Notability". Could you please suggest what type of evidence you seek for this?

Pakpassion is among the leading provider of Pakistani cricket news and Pakpassion articles and interviews are quoted by many major news agencies who have a page on wikipedia.

Thanks

Regards Wazeeri —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wazeeripakpassion (talk • contribs) 13:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Let the reader decide essay
Thanks for the heads up. I made an essay and Binksternet rewrote it in a more formal encyclopedic tone. Normally this would be appreciated, but an essay is not an article and so in my opinion it was essentially akin to vandalism. I will correct the spelling errors, I assumed Mein Kamph was proper spelling because the page linked nonetheless, apparently due to a redirection page. As for maniac, I am a native speaker of english and an American, in this country maniac is a noun, meniacal is an adjective. --Ipatrol (talk) 19:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

OH, a spelling error, my bad (fault).--Ipatrol (talk) 20:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Topless DJ Caption and reference
Could you tell me the original caption and citations of the topless female DJ picture for use in the discussion and possible use in the article? --Ipatrol (talk) 19:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, the text I originally wrote was:


 * In the late 2000s, topless female DJs have appeared in special club nights in Russia. The idea has later been copied to Finland.[9]

This was later edited to:


 * Topless Russian DJ spinning at a club in Finland. Club DJs and club owners occasionally try new ideas to attract customers.[11][12]

References:
 * Sedu brings topless female DJs to his nightclub!, Ilta-Sanomat, 4 June 2008 (in Finnish)
 * The website of Portia Surreal, a US-based topless DJ

I added the first reference, the second was added later. J I P | Talk 19:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Consensus deadline
The deadline for the topless DJ decision has arrived. If you do not say anything by 16:00 UTC, a sentence with the refrences will be inserted and the talk page discussion will be archived. --Ipatrol (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Titles of WWTBAM worldwide
Hello JIP, I've just seen your comment on Kubek15's disc page. How do you suggest to call the Chinese article of the show? Bǎi Wàn Zhì Duō Xīng? --Kazu89 ノート 16:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If that's the most commonly used romanisation, then yes. There can be a redirect from Bai Wan Zhi Duo Xing for the benefit of those who can't type the accented characters. J I P  | Talk 16:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Danke für die Antwort. Alles erledigt! ;-) --Kazu89 ノート 18:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, ich fröhe mich über hilfig zu sein. =) J I P  | Talk 19:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Chanel 9
I have nominated Chanel 9, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Chanel 9. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. TTN (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC) TTN (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Mythopoetic Leadership
* 07:12, 24 August 2008 JIP (Talk | contribs) deleted "Mythopoetic Leadership" ‎ (WP:PROD, reason was 'local course'.)

What do you mean by "local course"? Tel2048 (talk) 02:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It was not I who originally wrote the reason "local course", it was User:Skysmith, who proposed the deletion. I carried out the proposed deletion. I think it means he thinks it's a course offered by a single university or college. J I P  | Talk 04:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Does it matter that this is untrue? Tel2048 (talk) 22:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If it is untrue then I can undelete it and place it under normal deletion discussion as a routine process. J I P  | Talk 05:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It is untrue. But if you undelete it and put it up for normal deletion discussion, your action will probably be argued against by the same ignorance that that started this discussion in the first place.  And I don't argue with ignorance. Tel2048 (talk) 15:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've changed my mind. Please undelete this article.  I feel like ripping the head off of an idiot.  Thank you.   Tel2048 (talk) 03:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I have already undeleted the article and placed it under WP:AFD as routine procedure. The AFD reached consensus to delete. Therefore it can't simply be undeleted, it has to go through WP:DRV first. J I P | Talk 05:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you please explain why you undeleted it when I did not ask you to? It couldn't be out of an overwhelming allegiance to the truth because you lied at the top of the deletion article when you stated I was the author of the article in question.


 * Also, would you please explain why you did not notify me in any way you were undeleting the article? By not notifying a person with an interest in the article who might defend it, there appears to be an agenda on your part--regardless of what you stated at the top of the deletion article.


 * Thank you. Tel2048 (talk) 03:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Wyher is vandalising evolution and it's talk page
Wyher has been replacing the evolution page with scripture from Genisis, as seen here and here. I posted a general notice on the administrators noticeboard but mabye you'd like to take a look at it? P.S. I added a category that placed you in the administrators category list--Ipatrol (talk) 21:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Gogo Dodo already blocked him indefinitely. J I P  | Talk 06:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Posankka
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Please restore edit history.
Hi! I've recently been working on merging a bunch of Dungeons & Dragons-related articles together so that there aren't as many smaller, stub-length articles, and I was wondering if you could restore the edit history of Hanseath so that I could merge it; it could both be redirected to Dwarf deities for now. Thanks! -Drilnoth (talk) 15:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. J I P  | Talk 15:57, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks! -Drilnoth (talk) 15:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Linux
Out of all the Mac operating systems, would you say this one is the best? Thanks.--Crackthewhip775 (talk) 23:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Notability of God's Gas
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For Future Reference
Talk pages are not for personal opinions alone. One must find a way to tie it to the article. See the example I did on the talk page for Batman (TV series). Emperor001 (talk) 16:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Wash'n'Roll
I have nominated Wash'n'Roll, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Wash'n'Roll. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. TTN (talk) 23:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Motormaster
I'm sure TTN would delete all Transformers articles you mention. Don't point him twards them. Mathewignash (talk) 09:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Please don't add the non-notable material
HI! PLease don't add the non-notable and unreferenceds unimportant material to the Daegu page. Your revert was reverted. Regards, Nxo (talk) 21:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read the question I left on your talk page and answer it. Merely repeating "please don't add non-notable material" is very offensive. J I P  | Talk 21:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Greetings. Please read WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not a tourist guide and Wikipedia is not a place for undescrimintae information. regards, Nxo (talk) 21:26, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition, my apologies for being so brusque, JIP. Nxo (talk) 21:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand that, but I don't think this is indiscriminate. The World Bodypainting Festival is mentioned on both the Seeboden and body painting articles and no one has ever claimed it was non-notable, redundant or indiscriminate. Daegu is the first non-European city that the festival has expanded to. At the 2008 festival in Seeboden, the mayor of Daegu himself was present to announce the first festival in Daegu.
 * (after edit conflict) Apology accepted, thank you. J I P  | Talk 21:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, after further consideration, I revert my reviersion of your revert. I hope another with more knowledge than me can consider your edit. Best of the season to you, JIP. :-P Nxo (talk) 21:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Alternate titles, and columns in 'Lists of' articles
Hi JIP, you where one of the few people that helped to merg the N64 games lists and get the Japanese titles back onto the main list, but the discussioon has arrived again, and I'd like to invite you to contribute to the Talk:List of Nintendo 64 games#Removal of Alternate Titles and Number of Players where we are discussing the use of keeping alternate titles in the "List of...games" some have suggested that they take up too much space and that other columns could seem to be "useful only to fans", and other things that have been mentioned that, and other 'List of' talk pages. I hope you'll come and give you opinion, and hopefully keep these type of concerns from arising again and again at each "List of" pages. (Floppydog66 (talk) 23:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

Happy Holidays!


Yupik would like to wish you a Merry Christmas, a Happy Chanukah, or whatever you may be celebrating at this time of year plus warm wishes for a good 2009!

Hyvää joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta! Buriid juovllaid ja ráfálaš ođđajagi! Pyereh juovlah já luholaš uđđa ihe! Lahkoe jåvle jih buerie orre jaepie! Buorre javla ja buorre ådå jagev! God jul och gott nytt år! Hyveä roštuota! Hyveä rastavoa! С новым годом! -Yupik (talk) 20:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hi. You've done a large amount of deleting today after a hiatus of a couple of months. I see that you used to write edit summaries for your deletions, as is the regular convention, but in today's run you haven't been leaving any summaries, so that there's no record of the reason for the deletions in the log. —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was an error on my part. The reason I made those deletions was because the articles were on Proposal for Deletion, and their Prod time had expired. I somehow just forgot to write that into the edit summaries. Do I need to undelete the articles and delete them again or something now? J I P  | Talk 18:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know the rules (and I'm not an admin), but I have occasionally seen articles undeleted and redeleted to achieve various ends, and I do recall occasions where the reason was to correct a previous edit summary. —Largo Plazo (talk) 18:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Categorization of city articles and categories
Hi! You had added back the categories I had removed from the article Espoo. (I had removed them on purpose because they already were added to the category Category:Espoo.) So, is it a policy or guideline at en.wikipedia to categorize city articles even if the corresponding city category already has been categorized as well? (I'm asking because I didn't find precise answer at Categorization and subcategories and I don't want to mess things up...) Thanks in advance, --Apalsola t • c 22:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think a good guideline is that if a category has a clear main article, then this article should also appear in the category's supercategories. Other articles need only appear in the specific category. Also, other articles about Finnish cities follow this idea too, for example Helsinki. J I P  | Talk 01:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

RAMBO, Brooklyn
Please restore this page; I did not notice the proposed deletion due to the holiday, and would have objected. Martensitic (talk) 15:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

An AfD you will be interested in
See Articles for deletion/Die Glocke. AWT (talk) 19:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)