User talk:JackofOz/Archive 30

Your own archive
I think maybe you have just forgotten your opinion of IP 54 here?


 * That just demonstrates that my memory is concerned more with memory-worthy things rather than the doings of non-entities. See also What would Jack do?, where I was quoted as decrying the practice of "one editor dismissing another forever because of past disagreements that have led to their future contributions being adjudged worthless, sight unseen".


 * The author User:Rockpocket also wrote: "Try to treat every edit with "beginner's mind", irrespective of past differences you may have had with the editor".


 * I'd like to think I remain true to those operating principles. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  02:58, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

As for IP 50 who started this nonsense, see the comments by the same user on my talk page under the Ukraine header at the bottom who demanded to know why I used a foreign language name, and why I don't give my credentials.

You can also look at the deleted comments by him on my talk insisting that pointy and refactor are not words in use at wikipedia, you can look at his apology on his talk page (now deleted) for deleting my ITN comments and lying that he was fixing a typo in the edit summary when he did so. You can look at his comments on my talk page using the occasion of my mentioning the Nazi's had killed my relatives to argue "Nazis" is the preferred pluralization.

I hope that clarifies things. μηδείς (talk) 02:29, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that info. You may, but I do not keep dossiers on individual editors to be able to know their history with all other editors whenever they appear on a page I'm following - and IP addresses are particularly unmemorable. Otherwise, see above.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  03:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

your comments inside mine
Lettin you know I moved your r d talk comments outside of my single two-paragraph signed comment, in case you want to change your format any. I would prefer my comments remain uninterrupted and signed as is. μηδείς (talk) 02:56, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * OK. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  03:03, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

AC list
I got all enthusiastic about a "spring"-clean - (well, summer, and now autumn). Ran out of steam. Interested to read your opinion of what you think needs, (note: needs ), and "would be nice", to improve article. Thanks in advance. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:21, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, Pdfpdf. A few points:


 * 1. It's already long and takes its time when saving edits, and it will only get longer. But splitting it has implications for sorting, so I dunno how to resolve that.
 *  Yeah, I agree. (Regretfully, nor can I think of a solution.) Pdfpdf (talk) 07:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * 2. However, I see a good case for separating out all the Honorary appointments into a separate table. These are clearly in a separate class from substantive appointments.
 * (Notwithstanding point 1) I agree. Pdfpdf (talk) 07:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Slight change of subject: What do you think about separating civil from military? I'm hesitant, due to my experience with Victoria Cross and Victoria Cross for Australia - e.g. When someone said the most recent award was the 4th, not the 100th, they were told they were wrong. i.e. Other than on Wikipedia, who cares about the difference, or even knows there's a difference? I have a similar concern about separating civil from military. i.e. Other than to reduce the Wikipedia page size, who cares about the difference, or even knows there's a difference? Your thoughts? Pdfpdf (talk) 07:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The VC issue has no implications here. There is only the one AC.  But it has 2 divisions, so I have no issue with making the military appointments a separate list.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  08:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * 3. I hate, hate, hate the way we have military titles in block caps: LTGEN, VADM, RADM, MAJGEN, etc. These styles are only ever used within the military, never outside.  For example, you would not read a newspaper article on "GEN Peter Cosgrove" - "Gen" or "General" is the preferred way, and I see absolutely no justification for diverging from that practice in our list.
 *  Actually, I agree! (However, there are a number of WP editors who would disagree with us.) I've decided to be bold and change it, and see if anyone that notices makes a complaint. ("Watch this space") Pdfpdf (talk) 07:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I applaud your boldness. More power to u.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  08:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Otherwise, it's pretty good, imo. Cheers.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:12, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Good! Thanks for the feedback ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 07:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Enough! he cried. It's someone else's turn! Pdfpdf (talk) 11:26, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

''Comment: I was a little surprised (and lot pleased) that removing the G/M/H column reduces the page size by about 2,500 bytes. But when you think about it, 400 * "|| G " alone is 2,000 bytes ... Pdfpdf (talk) 11:27, 12 March 2014 (UTC)''


 * There you go then. That wasn't too hard now, was it.  Thanks for your many thanks.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  11:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 12:14, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

OMG that's a worry! (I've completely forgotten what I came here to say!!) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:20, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * (possibly forlorn hope) But maybe I will remember ... Pdfpdf (talk) 14:26, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * What drugs are you on? :)  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:03, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Caffeine and alcohol - not enough of the former, and too much of the latter. :-( Pdfpdf (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe it was Talk:List of Companions of the Order of Australia - you haven't replied, so presumably you haven't noticed, so perhaps that's why I came here (i.e. to tell you) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

More on resignations
FYI: (Copied from Talk:Patrick White and Talk:Nugget Coombs)
 * Both Patrick White & Nugget Coombs were in the group of 6 awarded the first civil (now called general) ACs in the Queen's Birthday Honours List 1975.
 * They both resigned from the order in 1976 when the AK was created - see
 * "Nugget" Coombs, Australian Academy of Science
 * Patrick White, Australian Dictionary of Biography
 * I haven't yet located the gazette entries for their resignations.
 * As they both resigned, from that point neither of them were ACs, and hence no-one else is entitled to call them ACs, and hence neither appear in "It's an Honour".

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:00, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

new list
Good work! Pdfpdf (talk) 09:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)


 * (P.S. Do you know how to determine if AD/AK can be honorary awards?) Pdfpdf (talk) 09:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I think we should start a book!
I reckon you and I could make a killing (or a huge loss) starting a book on upcoming AKs. Your thoughts? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Substantive
 * John Howard - even money - maybe odds on?
 * Malcolm Fraser - 10/1
 * Honorary
 * SBY - even money
 * Rupert Murdoch - 100/1
 * Miley Cyrus - 1,000,0000/1 10,000,000/1

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Fried Mold
Re: fried items (non-feline)... You haven't lived until you've tried deep-fried blue stilton. I don't have a recipe to hand, as I don't think there is one, but we do this pretty often here. The basic principle is "cut or squidge together balls of blue stilton about 1 to 1.5 inches across, coat them in an egg-and-breadcrumb mix, then deep-fry until the middle is runny". Eat carefully - they are hot - with a suitable sharp relish (an apple or quince chutney works well). You could probably do this with blue vinney as well, but with a good blue vinney that would be perilously close to sacrilege. RomanSpa (talk) 01:30, 7 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tips. You don't give out any clues where "here" is.  Maybe you still won't ...  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  01:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I just meant "in the house in which I live", but really you don't have to come and use this particular kitchen: so long as you've got some hot fat and access to blue stilton the general technique probably works anywhere! :-) RomanSpa (talk) 11:39, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I win. :)  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  12:06, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a competition?? RomanSpa (talk) 12:08, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, no, not at all. I'm just being a bit cryptic.  It's past my bedtime and I've just been watching an Anthony Hopkins movie, so you must forgive me.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  12:14, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. Thanks, and enjoy your film. RomanSpa (talk) 12:22, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

FYI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Reference_desk.2FHumanities.23Current_events:_Trial_of_Oscar_Pistorius

Jack, this is a live person, and nothing possibly defamatory said about him should be given without a goodly reference supporting it. This little discussion of him is NOT a discussion. The Ref Desks are article space, and we need to watch that for BLP reasons. μηδείς (talk) 06:00, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I can only ask you yet one more time: WHAT was said that was possibly defamatory?  And WHERE was there any speculation?  Joseph is asking what were the reasons as stated by Pistorius.  That is a matter of simple fact.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  06:13, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

For general information
From User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro. The speaker is to Joseph:
 * You were not making any "speculation", but simply asking for a fact. There was nothing whatever wrong with doing so, and 's criticism was totally unfounded. That has now been explained repeatedly, and if Medeis still doesn't understand, then I don't see anything more that can be done about that.; and
 * In your original post, you were clearly asking for information about what Pistorius said: "So, according to his story, did he say ... What reason did he give? Or did he just say ..." All of that is asking for factual information, not "speculation", and to call it a "BLP violation" is absurd.

Despite the persistent refusal of Medeis and User talk:JzG to answer my many questions, I now have the information I was seeking, and I can draw a veil over this truly pathetic episode. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:35, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

before the white ants
I had a very large collection of the ferret... sigh - never a magazine, a weekly piece of gold amongst the rubish journalism of the day satusuro 23:48, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, me too, satusuro. I've been an avid Leunigophile since 1970, thanks to Nation Review.  The polemics and politics weren't always quite to my taste, but the writing nearly always was.  Such a sad loss, really.  It really defined my entire 20s.  If only I knew then what I know now .......  I kept some treasured original clippings, such as the front page from during the 1974 election campaign showing a full page photo of then Opposition Leader Billy Snedden, with his timeless quote "Wherever I go in Australia, people know there's something wrong", and the caption "Labor's Secret Weapon" .  But I lost them all, and lots of other old papers, during the 2007 Gippsland floods.  I also remember fondly its short-lived sister paper The Living Daylights (newspaper) - see, . --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  00:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Michael Pritchard quote
Your quotes/antiquotes subpage has a link to Michael Pritchard, which was being redirected to Michael Dirnt. I have changed that redirect to a disambiguation page and have been changing pages that linked to it, so that they link directly to the Dirnt page. However, looking at your page, I am unsure whether you intended to link to the musician or one of the other Michael Pritchards, so I left your link alone. Cheers, Peter Chastain (talk) 14:35, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Peter. I had no idea myself.  I just read it somewhere, liked it, and gave the name of the author as per the source. It does seem to be this Michael Pritchard, who is probably best known as a stand-up comedian.  I've adjusted the disambig page accordingly.  Cheers.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  18:48, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, given the context of the quote, I figure it is probably that Michael. The entry in the DAB page is now a red link, the article having been moved back into my user space as an alternative to being speedyed. As you have indicated, the article should probably be renamed, and I will discuss that further on its talk page. I am not sure what the etiquette is, about editing articles in other people's userspace, so let me say that I would be grateful for any changes you might wish to make there, if you have the time. Thanks! Peter Chastain (talk) 22:53, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

User talk:LouisPhilippeCharles
See User talk:LouisPhilippeCharles. It took me a long time to revert his mess. So no I will not move it. User:LouisPhilippeCharles likes to move article to English names in this case his move includes a mismatch of English and French "Princess of Condé". If you want it moved then use theWP:RM process, present your reliable sources to explain why it should be moved, and see if there is a consensus for the move. -- PBS (talk) 21:23, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for the quick response. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:25, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

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G♭ major
G♭ major is your favorite key ? 166.48.194.46 (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)




 * It is? You tell me.  Where did I ever say that?  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey! I thought I was your favorite key! ---Sluzzelin talk  21:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I have never denied that, O love of my life, Sluzzelin. You are the only one for me.  One of these days we must actually meet, and consummate our relationship at last.  But you'd better be cute, or all bets are off.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

G♭ major is my favorite key, because it sounds very good. 166.48.194.46 (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Who are you and why are you telling me this? Merci.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Because I want to know if you like the G♭ major or not. For me, the G♭ major sounds better than other keys. 166.48.194.46 (talk) 22:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * But why do you care about the opinions of a total random stranger such as I? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't know why. 166.48.193.175 (talk) 23:00, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * How did you come to choose me in the first place? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Because you know the keys. 166.48.192.235 (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * As do millions of others. Maybe I can draw this delightful diversion to a close by saying that, from the perspective of a piano player, I do like certain keys more than others: D-flat major, A major, and B minor.  I'm quite indifferent to G-flat major, really.  In terms of pure music, my favourites would be: D major, E major, F-sharp minor, A-flat major, A major, B major and minor.  I pretty much despise E-flat minor from all points of view, and I wouldn't give you much for G minor.  Au revoir.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3doU7eKHsM

This song is between D minor and E♭ major, so, do you despise this key ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.48.192.235 (talk) 00:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I quite like that song. The key doesn't bother me there, but generally I don't care for it.  Please, no more of this.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  00:15, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

WikiDoctor
Sadly, it seems I do give a damn. Obviously, I'm in SERIOUS need of counselling. (Or failing that, and probably more usefully, advice.) HELP! Pdfpdf (talk) 14:54, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Now there, what seems to be the trouble? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  18:26, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I seem to be losing interest in (and enthusiasm for improving) pages that, over many years, I have devoted considerable effort to. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if there's more to life than Wikipedia! (Sorry, I'm not deliberately trying to be blasphemous.) For example, now that Tony has demoted AC, what's the point in devoting effort to it? Etc. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Secondly, there are ~5,000 pages on my watchlist. In the past, if I was feeling bored, my watchlist would provide an endless supply of opportunities for entertainment. But now, I look at it and think ... who cares? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Have faith. As originally conceived by Whitlam, AC was the top level, and it applied sexlessly to "men and women of Australia".  Then AK/ADs were available for 7 years, courtesy of Fraser.  Then Hawke made sure ACs were the top again for the next 31 years, until now.  Their time will come again.  The next Labor government, whenever it is and whoever it is led by, will surely abolish AK/ADs once more. In the meantime, one wonders whether the "Father of the AK/AD", Malcolm Fraser, will be offered one, and whether he'd accept or decline it.  I think even he's moved on now from such non-egalitarian diversions.  He's certainly moved on from the Liberal Party.


 * Sounds like it's time for a wikibreak to refresh the spirit. Or develop an additional hobby.  Or go out and get laid.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  13:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I agree. (Of course, if Fraser was offered one and refused, we'd never know - unless he told us ... ) Well, I'm off to explore your three suggested alternatives. Maybe I'll do all three! Best wishes, and keep warm. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:07, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh dear! It seems I have a problem. I find I'm being excessively annoyed by a WP:Dick with a Messiah complex who is impervious to reality, has no sense of humour, and is also impervious to sarcasm, (or anything else, for that matter). i.e. a textbook narcissist.
 * Dear Abby, ... Pdfpdf (talk) 13:41, 12 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Bottom line is that he has the rules on his side about his own talk page. He has asked you numerous times to stay away, and he has the right to make such a request, regardless of the merits of whatever brought you two into contact in the first place.  He would probably have a case to say that he is the one being "excessively annoyed".  Disclosure: I have had my own history with that editor, but peace finally broke out and we choose to move in different circles now. Best policy. Worth thinking about.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)


 * a) (As usual, it seems) Thank you. (Yes, etc., etc. )
 * b) Dammit! Why is this bigot allowed to continue to behave like a WP:Dick, while everyone who is pissed off by him is withdrawing and allowing him to continue his arrogance, because confronting him is too much effort and, afterall, he's just an arrogant WP:Dick with a Messiah complex? I'm genuinely ambivalent - on the one hand: "Why should he be allowed to steamroller anyone/everyone who doesn't exactly agree with him"; vs "FFS. The guy's a WP:Dick. Who cares?"
 * BTW: He doesn't have the rules on his side, but somehow he manages to re-engineer every situation so that it seems he has. Clearly, the guy has political skills.
 * Back to square 1: viz: Sounds like it's time for a wikibreak to refresh the spirit. Or develop an additional hobby.  Or go out and get laid. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:39, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Slavic terms for Germans
Jack, I have become a bit more involved than I should be, in a discussion about Slavic terms for Germans, and it occurs to me that, if you have the time and inclination, you might be able both to add your wisdom to the conversaton and to address some of the underlying problems in the article in question. I could perhaps help with the latter but am frankly out of my depth. If you think this invitation would be better made at a forum where slavophone (is that a word?) Wikipedians gather, please let me know. спасибо,  Peter Chastain   [habla, por favor]  14:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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Terribly concerned
Naturally, we're terribly concerned about the present state of affairs. I certainly am. I think we all know where the finger of blame should be pointed, but let's not worry about that now, there'll be plenty of time for recriminations later. The time for talking has stopped, and what we need now is action. There have been too many questions - what we need, goddamit, are answers! I've wasted too much time as it is, so I'm leaving now to go and do what I should have done a long time ago. I strongly suggest you all do the same. I only hope we're not too late. Jack of Oz  [pleasantries]  21:38, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Your flagrant OR, POV and any other initials I can remember...
...at Talk:Cicely Courtneidge are, alas, correct. Kindly don't do this again, or I shall unleash the English cricketing Wikipedians on you. Tim riley (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Ooooh, now I'm terribly concerned (see above). --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:29, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair point, but we'll be back. Hugs and bared teeth, Tim riley (talk) 23:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd prefer teeth and bear hugs (or bare hugs), but I'll take whatever I can get. :) --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:45, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You are a very bad person. Do you ever visit London? If so, I insist on inviting you to lunch next time. Tim riley (talk) 16:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Next time would be the first time, Tim. I've never been much of an international traveller, strangely enough.  Planning a trip to Sri Lanka and Dubai in December, and I'm thinking we'll take in some other parts of planet Earth on the way back, so you just never know.  One of my sons was working in London for about 6 months last year, but he's returned to his base in Útila, Honduras to be a Caribbean bohemian once more (not quite true; he's a film maker, dive instructor and record breaker).  We're way overdue for a face-to-face visit.  Watch this space.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Good. Well, if you do visit London don't forget to put me on the itinerary along with our other ancient monuments. I shall most certainly watch this space. Tim riley (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Good. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News
Hey Jack!

I was going to start pasting the tech news updates (see below) onto the ref desk talk page, starting today, since I figure it might be handy for editors there (and it does encourage us to spread the news). However, on this first day I screwed my courage to the sticking plate, I find that the talk page is semi-protected and will be until tomorrow. Do you feel up to posting it yourself? I kind of feel like, given how news ages, if I don't post it today I should probably wait for the next one to come around.

Cheerfully yours, 86.146.28.229 (talk) 14:50, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, your response shows clearly why you are the person I asked to do this :) If I'd posted it myself, I'd have added a blurb asking if people found it helpful, but I figured you would use your skill and fine judgement, as indeed you have. I was also pretty sure that if this was obviously a terrible idea, and I had somehow missed it, that you'd let me know! Thank you. 86.146.28.229 (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-16
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.  We are looking for contributors to help write new issues every week. If you would like to help, please contact us.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf22) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on April 10. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on April 15, and all Wikipedias on April 17 (calendar).
 * MediaViewer was enabled for all users on MediaWiki.org on April 10. It will be enabled for all users on the Catalan (ca), Hungarian (hu) and Korean (ko) Wikipedias and English Wikivoyage on April 17. Comments are welcome.  [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125031/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125032/]
 * Font issues caused by Typography refresh for Windows users were fixed on April 7. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124387/] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63512]

VisualEditor news
 * You will now see only three options when you try to add a template parameter in VisualEditor; you will see other options after a click.
 * The size changing controls in VisualEditor media editing dialog were simplified further.
 * The wikitext editor tab will now fold into a drop-down menu in the Vector skin if there is not enough space on your screen. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50255] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123503/]

Future software changes  Problems
 * The font used for body text on Wikimedia wikis will change to your system default sans-serif font. This temporary change will be enabled on all non-Wikipedia wikis on April 15, and on all Wikipedias on April 17. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124475/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125447/]
 * Files from Commons seen on another wiki will soon have a tab saying "View on Wikimedia Commons". The create tab will change to "Add local description" (see screenshot). [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/104182]
 * You will soon be able to hide Notification and Hovercards pop-ups by pressing the Esc key. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53588] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62948] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123638/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120343/]
 * Shorter lists of language links will soon work in right-to-left languages. Languages that you have used before will be shown in the list. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62981]
 * You will soon be able to send messages with the MassMessage tool to all pages in a given category. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57473] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120334/]
 * The date format user preference will soon be moved to the appearance tab. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63582] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125370/]
 * An IRC discussion with the Wikimedia Foundation Multimedia team will take place on April 16 at 18:00 UTC on the channel #wikimedia-office on Freenode (time conversion).
 * Wikimedia Foundation servers were updated after a security bug called Heartbleed was discovered last week. You should change your password as an extra precaution. [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Heartbleed]

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Message from Clare
Thanks JackofOz right back at you for some helpful editing and for your time stopping by my talk page. Cheers! Clare. (talk) 11:55, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Also I should say great work with the Refshauge page, It's very detailed (mine have been towards start and stub class articles so far). Hope I'm not butchering anything in there, okay? Looking forward to seeing your edits and improvements in the future too, Clare

Question about GA nominiation of Isaac Isaacs
Seeing as you are the only top contributor to Isaac Isaacs that is still active on Wikipedia, I want your opinion on nominating Isaac Isaacs for GA status. It looks broad, it has reliable references and I don't really see any edit wars, so I'm thinking of having it nominated for GA status. Thoughts? Acalycine ( talk / contribs ) 01:08, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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Magda Goebbels
Hi, mate. I was looking into the edit history of Magda Goebbels and does not quite understand why you removed such a large portion of the articles information (1,076 bytes). Could you please explain in greate detail why you feel that part is "far too unnecessarily detailed and of minimal relevance to Magda Goebbels". Cheers. Jonas Vinther (talk) 00:32, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, Jonas. This is the edit in question, I believe.  Well, I felt that the day of the week and the time of day the ship left were trivial.  The fact that the ship travelled via England on its way from France to the US, is trivial.  The fact that they had a half-day visit at Southampton is trivial.  The fact that they left Southampton that Saturday evening is trivial.  The fact that Magda and Gunther were listed on the ship's manifest is trivial (it would be remarkable if people on board were NOT so listed; but completely normal if they were).  The details of Gunter's last visit to the USA is totally irrelevant to Magda Goebbels.  The date and place of their arrival in the USA is trivial.  Do you kind of see why I deleted this material?  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  00:45, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes I can, thanks. Jonas Vinther (talk) 01:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

James Wolfensohn - question of knighthood/citizenship
Hi

I believe the question of whether James Wolfensohn's knighthood is honorary or substantive now that he is an Australian citizen (albeit duel Australian/US). It seems that the case of Terry Wogan sets a sort of precedence in this matter, with Wogan being an Irish citizen at the time of being appointed a KBE (hence it being honorary), however, Wogan became an UK citizen and his knighthood became substantive. I believe this is the same with Wolfensohn and should be reflected as so.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttfreck (talk • contribs) 11:34, 30 April 2014 (UTC)