User talk:Jevansen/Archive 5

Please tick the box!
As it seems like you have a few thousand more of these changes to do, can you please mark then as minor, so that my watchlists aren't flooded! Between Jenks' TAC cup allocations and now this, the vandalism is getting hidden! Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 15:53, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries, I'll do that from now on. Jevansen (talk) 06:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion request
Hey there, just wondering if you could slap a tag on Bert Watson so it becomes a redlink again, as we established above that he's probably not the same guy as the chess player. It's quicker if you this rather than taking it through the RfD process which is pretty backlogged. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 18:36, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * No probs, I've tagged the Bert Watson page. Jevansen (talk) 07:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate. Jenks24 (talk) 13:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

AWB and Pentagon
Just so you're aware, your recent AWB changes involving the Pentagon have produced the following text in articles: the Pentagon They're minor and probably don't need fixing, but I wanted you to be aware this was occurring. Wikiacc (¶) 17:03, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Jevansen (talk) 23:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Henry Alder
Hey there, when you did that big run recategorising players by state, you categorised Henry Alder as from Victoria. The original club in the infobox is Beverley Football Club from WA, so I changed the cat to say he was from WA. Thought you might want to know and if I've misunderstood something, feel free to change it back. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 21:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah yep, right you are. I've changed it back to from Victoria and added the newspaper article as a ref. Thanks for clarifying, Jenks24 (talk) 02:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Les Miserables query response
Hey. I think it's a problem on your end. No matter how I type Les Miserables, I still get the same page with the same edits. I've got three edits from you on the 18th and this one from an hour ago. Have you made any other recent edits?

I did notice your initial post to my talk page, but five minutes later it was removed by the same IP. Is this a shared IP address? Jevansen (talk) 03:52, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, the IP is shared, and so is this one. I made the edits myself.  Also, if you check your viewing history, I deleted them a few times to prevent your page from getting damaged (at least on my end). I hope everything is okay with Wikipedia. 70.25.99.236 (talk) 04:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll try to explain the situation as best as I can.


 * On 17 May 2011, I made five edits to the Les Misérables page under the library IP 205.189.194.208. I cannot recall whether they got through the first time (I believe they got rejected the first time or it took a while to save) but according to the page's history, they got through. On May 18th, I did three edits (as you described above) under 170.170.59.138. From what I recall, they also had problems or took a while to save, but once again according to the history, they got through. Now, if I type the URL with the accent and no underscore(Les Misérables), it shows the updated page, but when I type the title without the accent (Les_Miserables), it shows a previous version. I also type it with the accent and underscore (Les_Misérables) and it shows another earlier version. It's only when I click on "Edit" and then click on "Save Page" that the recent edits show up on all versions of the title ( a null edit). Even just clicking on "Edit" and reading the text on the edit page itself, the updated text is present. But when I delete my cache/browsing history, the "Les_Miserables" and "Les_Misérables" versions goes back to a previous page.


 * Also on your talk page (this page), when my browsing history is clear (or cleared), the IP 170.170.59.138 on May 20 shows up in your page history, but not the question I posted. It even says at the bottom of the page "This page was last modified on 16 May 2011 at 02:17." Once again, when I click "Edit/View Source" and then click "Save Page" that the page and page history is fully updated, and the correct date and time of modification is stated. As you can see in this page's history, I did delete the question a few times. I even tried another IP (70.25.99.236) and it also gives the same problem.


 * You should try to clear your browsing history and see if the same thing happens to you. If it does, try the trick that I mentioned above. Would trying other purges help? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purge)


 * I really hope what I said here makes sense, and I look forward to your reply. 170.170.59.138 (talk) 05:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Mate, I honestly have no idea. I've added a copy of your post here, at our tech help page so hopefully they are able to assist. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 06:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi again, Just updating you that the Les Mis page seems to be mostly okay now. It's now your talk page here that is the issue.  This page and the page's history are not updating, and the only way I can see the updated version of this page is when I click on the Edit button or purge your page.  Tell me, are you still able to see this page in its updated version? Perhaps this might be a regional issue. You may want to let tech support know. All the best. 170.170.59.138 (talk) 14:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Update: I see all the posts now, and your history is up to date as well (as of this writing at least). It looks like there's something going on at my end, because everytime I make an edit, it doesn't show up for a few days. Do you know if tech support knows about this?


 * BTW, thank you very much for your assistance. 170.170.59.138 (talk) 18:24, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * We got the following response from tech, hope it helps - "For 'readers'/google, redirects in wikipedia are not real redirects. They are more like copies of the same content with another title. As such when one article is refreshed in the cache, not necessarily all alternative copies are updated at the same time, often leaving you with entry points where outdated content is presented to IP users". Jevansen (talk) 01:12, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


 * This has also been happening to your talk page. As of this writing, my "update" post and your post on May 22 still do not show up until I do a purge, and when I delete my browsing history and refresh the page, they disappear again. This should not happen with your page, because you do not have any redirects or other titles. While I noticed the posts should show up on their own in a day or so, it shouldn't be doing that in the first place. If you choose to, delete your web history and refresh this page and see if the same thing happens on your end, just to be sure if its my location that has this issue. 170.170.59.138 (talk) 23:06, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Just updating you that Wikipedia left a notice on all the pages that they were fixing a technical issue (which I believe they referred to as a legacy problem). While all my recent posts up to 22 May 2011 at 23:06 show up now, this post still doesn't when I clear the viewing history. Just wanted to let you know, and thank you for your replies and assistance earlier. 170.170.59.138 (talk) 21:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks.Jevansen (talk) 02:10, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations
Buster Seven   Talk  15:03, 4 June 2011 (UTC) ________________________________________________________________

Paul O'Brien
Hi Jevansen - I've been creating some more AFL player articles using List of Carlton Football Club players as a base. Just got up to Paul O'Brien - there are 3 who have played in the VFL/AFL (born 1948, 1950 and 1961). I was going to create a disambiguation page but there is already a Paul O'Brien article. I was wondering if you could move that page to something like Paul O'Brien (actor) to make room for a disambiguation page. The only reason I haven't done it myself is I'm not entirely sure how to do it without stuffing up all the pages that link to the current article. I know you're a wiz with this sort of thing (after working your magic on Bob Hay), so I thought I'd leave a message here for some help. If you don't have the time to do it, I'll search around for some info and give it a go myself. Thanks! Terlob (talk) 05:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help - much appreciated! Terlob (talk) 00:19, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Hatnote removal question
Newbie question: I noticed that you recently removed the Tommy Hampson hatnote on the Thomas Hampson (baritone) article. After reading through the Hatnote article, it appears that the hatnote complied with section 4.1: Examples of Proper Use > Two articles with similar titles. Could you enlighten me on this topic. Thanks! -- Waldhorn (talk) 03:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your clear reply and explanation on my talk page. Much appreciated. -- Waldhorn (talk) 04:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Graham Leydin
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Wondering why the articles you start still come up for new page patrol
Hi Jevansen! I just "marked as patrolled" Alexander Dick, and thought, "Ye Gads, of course it should be marked as patrolled, it was started by Jevansen!" Do you have a personal reason for not having the Autopatrolled permission? I haven't looked through your archives, but I'm flabbergasted why you haven't, and can only think this must be a choice on your part. --Shirt58 (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * As far as I know I do have Auto patrol and have for quite some time. The Alexander Dick article was created by User:IgnorantArmies, not sure why my name would be coming up. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I got this fuddled up with Cliff Deacon, which came up as a new page, but was, of course, marked as marked as autopatrolled. If there was such a thing as a monthly allowance for experienced editors making beginners mistakes, I'd have definitely used up my allotment for July 2011 already. :-) --Shirt58 (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Chris Heighinton England
If you take a look through Chris Heighington and actually read it you will see that his father Tom is from England and he has weighed up options to play for the England national rugby league team, therefore he is of English descent thanks to his father does Chris himself have to be born there to be of English descent? NO. Here is just one source that confirms this http://www.watoday.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/heighington-turns-back-on-poms-to-chase-blue-jersey-20110126-1a5fa.html and please stop deleting his english backround from his page. Thanks Youndbuckerz (talk) 09:06, 05 August 2011 (UTC)
 * My mistake, I looked at the relevant reference and saw it was cited in the opening paragraph but looked no further. I apologise. Jevansen (talk) 08:23, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
This is for your great work on the List of Australian Football League umpires, not to mention the vast array of other stuff you've done. Great work!

Sellyme Talk 23:36, 9 August 2011 (UTC) 


 * Thanks! Jevansen (talk) 01:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Thank you. Much appreciated. Jevansen (talk) 08:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Harry Equid dob
Hey. I just added a dod to Harry Equid's article, but I noticed that his Essendon profile has his dob as 1924, but stats rleague has it as 1923. Do you happen to have a copy of The Encyclopedia of AFL Footballers handy, or know of any other source we could check? Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 04:41, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, sounds good to go with the AFL website (which agrees with stats rleague). Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 04:58, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

You're invited to the Canberra WikiMeetup on 20 November 2011
Hi! We're having a Canberra Wikimeetup on 20 November 2011 at Siren Bar in Gunghalin from 2pm to 4pm. It's most just a chance to chat with other local Wikipedians, get a chance to go a different sort of bar (which is reasonably kid friendly, serves real food, and has non-alcholic options), and, if you're interested, learning more about what Wikimedia Australia and local GLAM projects are happening. We'd love to see you and any Wikipedia/Wikimedia/wiki loving friends you have there. --LauraHale (talk) 07:11, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Just a note to thank you for reverting the NFL article. I've reported the IP to 3RR and I'm waiting for action. Footy Freak7 (talk) 02:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Jevansen (talk) 02:55, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * He just reverted it again, and won't listen on the talk page. Footy Freak7 (talk) 03:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Swarm has just blocked the IP for a week. By my calculations I've got 90 minutes before I can revert outside the 24 hour period so I avoid a 3RR myself, but I'll leave it a little longer to be safe. Footy Freak7 (talk) 04:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh oh, we now have a sock! I've reported it. Footy Freak7 (talk) 05:23, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The sock(master) has just reverted it yet again. I've reverted it back. I hope you have the page on your watch list. Footy Freak7 (talk) 00:14, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes it's on my watchlist. I've put in a request for (temporary) page protection as well. Cheers Jevansen (talk) 02:32, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Just to update you, I've added a new section on the NFL talk page bringing things into context and so forth. I fully expect this person to try again when the block expires. If you could have a look at what I've written and give your take on it I'd appreciate it. It's a very messy situation. Footy Freak7 (talk) 11:49, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

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He's back
Sorry to bother you with this again, but the 60 IP is back on the talk page on the Northern Football League and he's wasted no time violating WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. I've tacked an informal warning on his talk page and just given a brief note on the NFL talk page in reply. I may need numbers here to pull this person into line. Footy Freak7 (talk) 21:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Please enjoy a cold beer on me

 * Thanks Lindsay. Jevansen (talk) 07:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Predictable as ever
He's reverted it and repeated his interpretation of the by laws on the talk page. I've reverted the edit back, put a vandalism warning on his talk page and on the NFL talk page reminded him that he needs independent third party sources for his claim because his interpretation is original research (and goes against the NFL interpretation FWIW). He tried to place his interpretation into the footnote in the place of yours that I added. Hope that's all okay. Footy Freak7 (talk) 22:58, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay it's getting out of hand again now. Footy Freak7 (talk) 02:26, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Moondyne has now locked the page and got involved. If you could keep an eye on it as well. Footy Freak7 (talk) 06:47, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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 * Jevansen I am really needing your help now. IP 60 is clearly trying to bait me on the NFL talk page with the intent of trying to get me to admit that his interpretation is right. He is trying to game the system as well. What I want to know is - would I be right in adding this information to the Dispute Resolution section above the discussion? Or would that make me guilty of a gaming violation myself? I am really worried here as I hope you would understand and I'm not handling this very well. I need to do something - I can't just sit on my thumbs here. This is out of control completely and I honestly think a ban for this IP needs to be considered. But I can't just yet. Footy Freak7 (talk) 07:46, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Simon Clarke
I'm a bit troubled by a statement on the Simon Clarke (rugby union) article that he was England's most-capped scrum-half until Steve Smith overtook him. It is sourced though, from a book, so I'm loath to just remove it - would you mind checking the source again? The record was actualy held by Clarke's predecessor, Dickie Jeeps, who had 24 caps for England against Clarke's 13. Cheers. --Bcp67 (talk) 14:39, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair solution! It's difficult when there is a claim which is sourced but facutally accurate. Looks like the guy who wrote it was a player himself and probably just unware of the stats, unlike a pedant like myself! - thanks for your help.--Bcp67 (talk) 10:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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List of cricketers who were killed during military service
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Infoboxes
Hey. There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket that might be of interest. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 00:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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Bob Corbett
Hey, I've never modified a wiki and have no idea how.

However, I noticed you created the wiki about my great granddad, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Corbett_(footballer)

I was wondering if you could update it slightly with the information about him from this link: http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=553641

Regards, Bryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.27.146.253 (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Happy to, but could I just confirm first that we are on the same page. This nominal roll lists the year of his birth as 1922 (we have 1895). Is it the footballer who was killed in the war, or his son? (nominal roll lists his next of kin as a "Robert Corbett"). Cheers Jevansen (talk) 00:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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