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A Very Happy (belated) New Year to you Keilana! Enjoy the Whisky ~TheGeneralUser  (talk)  23:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, happy new year to you too! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 00:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Keilana, I'm back and caught up with email. I'd love to take you on your offer to teach me the ropes on editing properly including referencing, and use some of any other editing tools. I'm excited about contributing to the WikiProject Women Scientist. IF we are in close timezone I can do Skype, Google hangouts or other, let me know what works best for you. Thanks again for your time and generosity! Cheers! Sylvia slv 19:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Re Ann Bishop
Firstly congratulations on getting this article up to GA standard. That takes a LOT of work. Well done. I have made a few minor changes to the article since which I hope you wont mind too much.

One minor niggle: In English the semicolon is similar in function to the comma. It is not (as far as I know) supposed to be used to join two (or more) sentences into a single sentence. That instead is the function of a colon or a conjunction.

Example:

'The cat sat on the mat; the dog joined it there.'

This is more properly

'The cat sat on the mat: the dog joined it there.'

An alternative is

'The cat sat on the mat and the dog joined it there.'

As I (currently) understand the use of a semicolon it is used as an alternative to a comma but can also be used to separate subordinate clauses within a sentence. The distinction here is between subordinate clauses which may separated by a semicolon and sentences which can be joined by a colon. The initial letter of the phrase following a semicolon should be in lower case while that following a colon may be either in upper or lower case.

The uses of semicolons and colons may differ considerably between languages and have VERY different uses in programming. It also is quite possible that English is not your first language: if this is the case please accept my apologies.

I'm probably sounding like a 'Grammer Nazi' here which I'm not usually. Lord knows I make enough 'mistooks' myself (typos are my speciality). However the misuse of a semicolon is (sadly) common and IMHO detracts from an article.

Please keep up the good work. DrMicro (talk) 14:12, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Addition:

According to WP the asyndeton is an use of the comma to coordinate separate sentences and is an exception to the usual rule governing the use of commas. Don't you just love WP :)

DrMicro (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey DrMicro, thank you so much for this! As it turns out, while spelling is my strong point, punctuation is a bit hit or miss for me. Thanks again! :) Best, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 17:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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Tea House New Users help
Hello Keilana, I am a new user and would like your help. A user has started demanding an article layout be changed according to his desire against the vote of everyone else who has reverted the changes. It is really odd. I am a new user and have no idea how to handle the situation. And is this type of thing a regular occurrence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_people_who_have_been_called_a_polymath

I am also updating the page of Patrick M. Byrne which has extremely confusing Talk page requirements.Bhalluka (talk) 18:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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Canis Minor
Okay, have listed this at Peer Review as I felt like it was a bit awkward. Looks better now. Do you want to get stuck in and help and be a co-nom or find another one to work on together..either way is ok..Only thing is, I think I probably prefer the simpler layout of the referencing for Canis Minor as it is now as opposed to Leo Minor. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Cas, I'd love to get involved in this one! I'll do some work on it today and this weekend - whatever you want for the references is fine, I'll go with whatever you've got. I did notice that there's some Harvard-style and some full citations, I assume you want the full citations? I'll be going back to university this week so I'll be able to get some non-Western mythology sources in there soon. (That all said, after this one I'd love to work with you on more constellations, I've got big plans for them in 2013!) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 18:15, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My original rule is that I'll use a harvard style if I have a book with different pages that I am using for different segments of text. Hence the one book with refs to different bits of it, with the full book ref at the bottom. I find this the most straightforward in appearance yet allows me to be exacting.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:59, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, that works for me. :) I've watchlisted the PR, are you thinking of taking it to FAC as soon as that's concluded? Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 21:03, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes indeedy (wipes sweat off forehead and runs back outside...watering plants as hitting 39C here today) Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, I'll be there! (If only it were that warm here in Chicago...freezing rain and general ickiness the past few days...) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 22:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Gosh darn....all these sources, maybe we'll just have to buff Procyon as well for GA/FA....a few of us worked on Sirius a few years ago so there is a model for how to lay out a system with a main sequence star and white dwarf......Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh no, whatever are we going to do? ;) I'd love to collab on Procyon after/while we do CMi! Especially since there's such a lovely example all laid out for us... Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 06:49, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

It's a nice day here, I was feeling good and looked at the article, and thought, "we're in the home stretch here so bombs awaaaaay......Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:12, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool, I've watchlisted and I'll keep plugging away in between responding to comments. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * PS: Have been tinkering with Circinus (constellation), which (again a small one) should be a straightforward buff too, if we're serious about buffing alot of them for GA/FA.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:46, 15 January 2013 (UTC)4
 * Hmm, looks good, I'll try to start some work on that once I've gotten through this pile of CMi sources. I'm quite serious about doing them all for GA/FA; I burned out on my own but company makes it quite doable! I figure, they're articles in practically every Wikipedia, they're on the vital list...it's a pretty important project. :) Btw - I found several non-Western astronomy sources in my library, plus one more Greek myth that I typed up but my computer ate. So more coming on mythology in the next couple days. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:38, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! Yeah, funny how having two really allows for a good momentum to build - sort of more than twice easier than solo...Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * True, I think I'll burn out WAY more slowly with company. I'm adding in the prominence information on CMi and the rest of my online sources. One of the two non-western astronomy sources came in from ILL today so I'll probably swing by there and start in with that tomorrow, if that's alright. Go team! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:23, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to help too on some of the more important constellations, such as Perseus (constellation). StringTheory11 (t • c) 04:42, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Right - we can try and figure next candidate to work on.......Orion (constellation) was one which I figured out a way of detailing out all the stars and things without it being too listy (one source did it by region and hence I've divvied up the Orion_(constellation) section into belt, head, club etc. Still needs a stack of reorganising and I fear the mythology of the main pattern could be...ummm...huge. I did have a hankering for Canis Major (done one dog, may as well do its chum)....Bootes we've had a bit of a go at but it's also huge....it'd be nice to do Pegasus to pair up with Andromeda, or Corona Borealis (maybe get both crowns on the mainpage as a double-header..). Or plough through the zodiac constellations, I'd be up for that. I also buffed Circinus (constellation), Pictor, Pyxis and Phoenix (constellation) for DYK so far - all of these are pretty small so are good starters for FAC just to get us used to them...I find I'm still finding my feet a bit with these articles...but then again they can be a bit boring...while the biggies have lots of cool things in them.....given I live in Oz I am lean a bit to southern hemisphere thingies......oh but there's also Eta Carinae...and Procyon...and Canopus and Rigel.....damn, spoilt for choice....So we can measure communal enthusiasm and take it from there....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * StringTheory, it'd be *awesome* to have your help! I'm really keen on doing the other Andromeda myth constellations (Perseus, Cetus, Cassiopeia, and Cepheus). There's a ton of interesting features in all of them and I think it'd be nice to have that little suite done. But I'm up for whatever, I plan to get to all of them at some point so it's just a matter of order. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 21:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perseus is cool - ­any constellation whose alpha star is an F-type supergiant is fine by me :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hehehe, so Circinus then Perseus? :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll try to do some preliminary work on Perseus while you guys are doing Circinus, such as layout, etc. StringTheory11 (t • c) 06:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Go team! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 20:48, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You may be interested in my comments on Talk:Perseus (constellation), about notability of a section. StringTheory11 (t • c) 00:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hey! I saw you in the signpost, and I remembered from when I reviewed Andromeda. How is your long-term project going with all of the constellations? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:38, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey! Good to hear from you again! It's actually going pretty well, I got Casliber into writing them as well and he's done a few. I finished Auriga (constellation) and Aries (constellation) before I took a break - burnout and my first semester at university and all that. Now I'm doing Canis Minor with Cas and it's going great! How have you been? Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 02:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hah, I know about burnout. Every so often I try some big topics, and although I usually get them done (newest one being 2002 Pacific typhoon season), they're quite gruesome and take a lot out of me! Nice work with those other constellations. I've been busy IRL, which oddly makes me more productive on here. Since I have less time, I spend it more wisely on content building, and on stuff I know I can't just finish in a day. Congrats on the first semester of university, keep that up! When you get all of the constellations to GT, I'll be the first to support :) --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooh, nice job on the typhoons! I'm totally fascinated by meteorology but don't know nearly enough about it. Hit me up if you ever want me to take a look at a GAN/PR/FAC/whatever. I get that counterintuitive productivity effect - I also tend to procrastinate by working on content, so the more homework I have, the more I write. Thanks for your stellar support, I'll definitely let you know when we get through all 88. Last I checked there's a few dozen left... ;) It may be awhile! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 17:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

WWC
Hi Keilana! Hope all is well. I wanted to let you know that the WikiWomen's Collaborative has recently underwent renovations to make it visually more attractive and easier to find resources. I'd love for you to be involved - since you are a founding member, of course. You'll find resources about getting involved in blogging, Facebook, and more. I also encourage you make an introduction, which is easy to do with a click of a button. I'm moving back to volunteering at the end of the month, and I really hope the project can continue to thrive and grow with volunteer support. See you there, i hope! SarahStierch (talk) 23:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Interested in helping ambassador a molecular biology course?
Hi, Keilana, I had a look at your OA profile, and was wondering if you'd be interested in helping me to OA a section of Molecular Biology for this semester (course officially starts right now). The course pages are here: Section 81 and Section 82. Right now I am the only one for both sections. I think ideally I could recruit three others, for two OAs per section -- then the work would be spread out and pretty easy, I think. It's not a whole lot of work, but the professor is not an experienced Wikipedian, and I do try to help her not only with answering student questions, but also with evaluations -- just checking to make sure the students did the assignments. Please let me know if you are available. Thanks! Klortho (talk) 05:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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BPS wiki-edit contest
I've got the contest page up now, and would be very appreciative if you'd sign up as a judge - unless you decide you want to be a contestant! In any case, please check it out to make sure I didn't do anything silly. We'll see you that Saturday, with a button for you to wear! Dcrjsr (talk) 03:31, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks good, I've moved it to WikiProject Biophysics/Biophysics wiki-edit contest as it was in the mainspace before. I'm so excited! :) I'm happy to judge, I'll add my name now. Also, do you want to see the presentation I worked up for the edit contest? I can send you an email if you'd like. Best, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:06, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, that would be both interesting and useful. Thanks very much for the move - it didn't occur to me to check what space I was in. Dcrjsr (talk) 04:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm about to go to sleep but I'll send it in the morning. Let me know if there's anything you want tweaked/added/removed! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:34, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Also an encyclopedia course
Meant to let you know that I'm helping a bit with the wikipedia part of a course on encyclopedias (including early European ones in Duke's rare books collection) being given by Mattia Begali in the classics dept. He will probably contact you about getting advice if we need it, esp. since some of his folks want to work on articles about women. I'll meet his highly varied 13 students next week. Dcrjsr (talk) 03:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That sounds fabulous and very interesting, I'm happy to help on-wiki or off! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:09, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks - we both appreciate that! Dcrjsr (talk) 04:15, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Thank you so much!! I am very excited about this class, but since it is an experimental class I would really appreciate to have some suggestions by an expert Wikipedian. Maybe we can be in contact by e-mail? My email is mb242@duke.edu Thanks again!!! Mbegali (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much
Hi there Keilana, I just wanted to come by and say thanks very much for your kind comments about me at Arbitration Committee Elections December 2012/Candidates/Keilana/Questions, regarding my quality improvement efforts at the page I'd created, Dan Savage bibliography. I'm sorry I hadn't noticed that until now.

It's really much appreciated and meaningful to me that you noticed my positive quality improvement contributions to Wikipedia.

Thanks again, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Aw shucks :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 20:53, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with a tedious task?
Hi, I've just assigned all the students to groups, and created a "groups" table in each of the course pages (here and here. Now I'd like to create each group page, using this one as a template.  Do you think you could do that?  It's a little tedious because you have to make sure the "81" and "82", and other bits of data, are correct for each one -- 13 pages altogether.

If you need help, could you solicit User:Serendipodous? If you are too busy, let me know and I will do it.

Feel free to amend the group template if you think anything is missing. Thanks! Klortho (talk) 04:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Had to finish up some reading before I got to this and now it's 1 AM and I can't be trusted to do it right. I should get it done before noon tomorrow; I have some free time. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 07:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! I always hesitate to ask for help, but I just want you to know I did a lot of work myself the past week:  welcoming each student, setting up the groups, and assigning the students.  I really appreciate anything you or Serendipodous can do!  Klortho (talk) 13:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh for sure, I want to ease your load as much as possible. I'm getting started on this now. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Course: Women Scientists
Dear Keilana,

I am currently in Mattia Begali's course on Wikipedia and I am very interested in working on one of the biographies included in your project on women scientists. I have a science major and would appreciate any guidance you have.

Thanks, APTNM (talk) 15:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Moustache team
Hey Kei, me and a few male Turkish Wikipedians did a good job for WP. Please check this new article: Women in Turkish politics. Best wishes for the exams at university and for life out of college. (It exists, I have been proving that since long time... :-) --E4024 (talk) 15:52, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Bonjour Kei. I hope you saw my response to you in my TP. I would be very happy to receive your contributions to the said article. In the meantime we also opened Turkish women in sports and the next step is Turkish women in literature. (I am proud of the Turkish women but they could lend me and other moustached -or not- Turkish editors working on these articles in WP. :-) Seems like they are busy in politics, sports and literature etc and the Turkish men are trying to write down their girl power in WP all alone... Best. --E4024 (talk) 11:53, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Katharine Brandegee
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Canis Minor and Procyon
It struck me that while you had been searching for stuff on Canis Minor and entering cutlural material there, that dumping some Procyon-only material into Procyon would be prudent to avoid re-researching it later on. I am starting to get intrgiued about some of these stars..Procyon just starting tl leave the main sequence etc....and maybe it'd be a good collaboration sooner rather than later. Structure of article should be similar to Sirius maybe..? Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's true, I'd love for none of that to go to waste. I'm fascinated with Procyon and I'd love to start doing some work on it. I have started to get involved in Circinus and Perseus, maybe we can start doing Procyon a little and push it through FAC after we get the other two? Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Circinus is looking near for GA nom. I was n't talking about actively doing Procyon jut yet, just if you had a book or article and had something right in front of you, just stick it in and we can do later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:53, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed, if you don't mind holding off for a day or two, I've got a few things I want to add. Maybe Monday for GAN? (Hey, WikiCup question, do you get a fraction of the points if it's a collab? Just wondering.) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:02, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No they don't bother with fractions - I figure that often the collab articles are trickier or longer, and we're supposed to be promoting collaboration anyway. Monday sounds good. Circinus looks to be within striking distance of GAN, but still a little slim (not surprising really as it is pretty tiny..). Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, even JSTOR and my other trusty databases are failing me. It seems that pretty much everybody up to Lacaille ignored it. But I still have some interesting DSO tidbits to add, those will be coming tonight (US Central time). I can nom when I get up Monday morning - your Monday evening I believe? Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 22:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Marie LaChapelle
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Hello Keilana
I'm also in Mattia's course. Wondering if you could help me find some good neuroscience stubs. Found copropraxia but there isn't too much room for expansion. Also, I would appreciate it if you could check out my contribs at mushroom bodies and nociception assay. I am also a biologist, but somewhat new to Wiki. Appreciate your time! Mikecf10 (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry *snif snif* *coughing*
Sorry I haven't been on in awhile. I have a horrible fever and headaches galore! I just stopped by to tell you my sense of feeling that I have nothing to fix in Wikipedia. Nothing to create. Nothing to help out with. RaidenRules! (talk) 15:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Deidra. Sorry to hear you're feeling sick! I hope you feel better soon. If you feel like there's nothing to do, why not check out some of the backlogs. There's tons to do there! You could also sign up for SuggestBot, which will give you suggestions for articles you may be interested in working on. Let me know if there's anything I can do. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm pretty bored. So I'm just going to snoop around Wikipedia. See what I can do. RaidenRules! (talk) 16:06, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan, that's usually what I do when I'm bored or procrastinating. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:08, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I rarely get bored...but, if I did...I would go to Sandbox, watchlist it, and see what foolishness some editors waste their precious time with. "Im not sayin, Im just sayin!" (Chicago-ism) ```Buster Seven   Talk  22:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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Hello! Just want to introduce myself.
Hi, My name is Autumn and I am one of the students taking the AAP Molecular Biology course. We were told to introduce ourselves to one of our online ambassadors. I have never edited anything on Wikipedia before, so this format is new to me, but hopefully I'll be able to figure it out along the way. If not, then I have you to be my guide. Thanks! Autumn Zack-Taylor (talk) 20:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven
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My name is Chris and i'm part of a Molecular Biology class at Johns Hopkins. I am new to the Wikipedia community. However, I'm looking forward to interacting with you and learning more about how to operate on and contribute to Wikipedia as the semester progresses. Nguych01 (talk) 01:40, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Introduction for Molecular Biology
Hi Keilana, How are you? My name is Jason Evans I am a spring 2013 Molecular Biology student. I'm enjoying the class so far, this is my first experience with Wikipedia beyond being just a consumer. I'm looking forward to working on this assignment. Thanks. Dugalmaguire (talk) 14:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Keilana. I am also in the SP13 Molecular Bio class for which you are an OA. My name is Christine. I just wanted to say how lovely your username (or real name?) is. Nice to meet you! -MonopterusAlbus (talk) 02:13, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi Keilana,

My name is Cdunca12 and this is my first introduction to an Online Ambassador for my Wikipedia project for the Molecular Biology course. I am very excited as I use Wikipedia on a daily basis to obtain general information for a number of years, and this is the first time I have an opportunity to contribute to my own article. I hope we can work together in the near future. Thank you!

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Hello, Keilana. I'm checking in with you as part of the AAP Molecular Biology class. Hopefully, all will go smoothly this semester and I will not have to trouble you with many questions. Although it is nice to know that help is at the ready.Jakodak (talk) 17:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Jgould1400 (talk) 01:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)Hi Keilana, Thanks for your message welcoming me to Wikipedia. I look forwarding to working with you. Since this is my first message ever on Wikipedia, please let me know if this came through okay. Also, please note that I originally set up my user page as jgould140 but couldn't get into it, so I created a new user page under jgould1400 (which BTW is the page you used for sending me your message, so that worked fine). However, I see that on our course's page, I'm still grouped with my partner (cdunca) as "jgould140". Is there a way to change this so there's no confusion?

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Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:
 * , primarily for an array of warship GAs.
 * , primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
 * , due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with, this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.

Other contributors of note include:
 * , whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.
 * , whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
 * and, who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.
 * , who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by : did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

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I'm sorry
I'm so sorry, Keilana! I really must apologize for not being on Wikipedia for at least a month!!! I have to be more responsible about my co-workers here on Wiki.!!! I would love to go through with our lessons this week because this week is Terra Nova and I have no homework because of that. So I'll be more free-handed. Also- I need to talk to you about something sort of serious on our adoption page. Again, I'm sorry Keilana for the inconvienience. I'd also like to talk to you about what would help me work harder in Wikipedia. Thanks. I'll see you on our adoption page. Just type the message, "I'm here" on the adoption talk page so I know your listening. Then we'll have a long and quite complicated discussion. Thanks. RaidenRules! (talk) 22:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Deidra, I'll see you there. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Canopus
Hello I notice you added some detail to the Carina page on mythology associated with the star Canopus. As it was on the star in particular, rather than the constellation as whole, I'm thinking it would be better placed on the Canopus page. What do you think? Would you have any objection to it being moved? Moonraker12 (talk) 21:38, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Moonraker, I think that all of it should definitely also appear in the Canopus article. I'm not sure all of it should be removed from the Carina article, though I'm not adamantly against it, maybe just the major mythologies should be kept (e.g. Arabic, Chinese, Greco-Roman, Aztec, and Maori)? It's a hard balance to strike and I do think the focus of the article should be on the constellation, but I don't want to neglect mentioning Canopus and how it fits in. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:13, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've copied the content over to Canopus and jiggled that page a bit; I've also copied some of it to a page on Atutahi that I found. I've also roughed out a summary for the Carina page, but will hold off posting it until you've seen it. What do you think? Moonraker12 (talk) 16:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks great, I've got some more non-Western astronomy that can eventually go in that section. Thanks for this! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 20:08, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, done.Moonraker12 (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Keilana, How are you? I am writing to you because I have some questions about the class I am teaching.

-Enrollment: I assume that the next step it will be to have my students enrolled in the class. I see that they need "a token provided by your instructor or one of the ambassadors for your course". What exactly is this "token"?

-Schedule/feedback: If it possible I would like that my students could get feedback from other editors. What strategy do you suggest? When do you should post a first version of their entry? Where should they post it? (sandbox?) Students picked an entry and they collected the bibliography. The last day of class is April 24th. Please let me know and thanks again for you help! Mbegali (talk) 21:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello again, it's been a while
Hello. I just logged into my account for the first time since 2007. We used to talk a lot while working on the U2 WikiProject and newsletter. I'm amazed to see you are still so active here. I've really enjoyed reading back on all our messages and ideas from so many years ago. Hope to hear back if you remember me.  Smith cool  01:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


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 * Hah, same here! As it turns out, 6 years makes a lot of difference when you're young. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 21:36, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


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Hello
Hello for the first time. i see that you have been inactive since 2007?... i was searching on Members of the Wikiproject U2 List and I saw you. The thing is that the wikiproject's believed to be inactive, and i was looking for people that contributes to it so it doesn't remain inactive. Please, reply if you are agree on that. Regards MissBono (talk) 15:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

New Project
What's that project about??U2_Girl! (talk) 12:27, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I just want to get all of the U2 albums in a Featured Topic at some point. There's not that many.... :P Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 13:41, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll work on that alongside with you if you help me, remember I'm kinda new on this thing. You have to explain me, but I'm glad to help. MissBono (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


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 * I don't really have time to start on it now, but maybe in May. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 20:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


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Hi Keilana, I'm having a number of problems adapting to all this Wikipedia-speak and Wikipedia processes and really need some help -- most immediately I need help with downloading images. I'm merely trying to download some simple images that are already on Wikipedia Commons (and also on Wikipedia pages) -- and in fact I'm trying to download the images directly from Wikipedia Commons, yet this is taking a ridiculous amount of time and still no luck. I have to say that the Wikipedia instructions are extremely unhelpful. Please help me out. I may be over 50, but I'm also an Ivy League grad and have been a lawyer in high tech fields for over 20 years, so I doubt I'm wrong about Wikipedia's problematic formats and instructions. Sorry to bother you, but this is really frustrating. I'm spending a large sum of money on tuition to learn molecular biology and not to be a Wikipedia expert. Please help. Thanks, Jim Jgould1400 (talk) 05:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

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Circinus....
Is nominated now, as a heads up....sorry about the wait. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:20, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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Question about references
Hi, Keilana, I got a question from one of the students that I'm not sure about -- here. Do you think you could comment, if you know the answer? Thanks! Klortho (talk) 01:24, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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Talk:Caltech–MIT rivalry/GA1
Keilana, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that your review requests had been responded to. Stop by when you can. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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Chubb Illusion
Hey Keilana. I was able to consolidate the Chubb Illusion article. Could you take a quick peek? I need some people to get in on editing minor issues; how do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikecf10 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate  (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.

Today has seen a number of Easter-themed did you knows from WikiCup participants, and March has seen collaboration from contestants with WikiWomen's History Month. It's great to see the WikiCup being used as a locus of collaboration; if you know of any collaborative efforts going on, or want to start anything up, please feel free to use the WikiCup talk page to help find interested editors. As well as fostering collaboration, we're also seeing the Cup encouraging the improvement of high-importance articles through the bonus point system. Highlights from the last month include GAs on physicist Niels Bohr, on the European hare , on the constellation Circinus ( and ) and on the Third Epistle of John. All of these subjects were covered on at least 50 Wikipedias at the beginning of the year and, subsequently, each contribution was awarded at least three times as many points as normal.

Wikipedians who enjoy friendly competition may be interested in participating in April's wikification drive. While wikifying an article is typically not considered "significant work" such that it can be claimed for WikiCup points, such gnomish work is often invaluable in keeping articles in shape, and is typically very helpful for new writers who may not be familiar with formatting norms.

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feedback wikicourse
Hi Keilana, Thank you so much for giving Mike feedback! really appreciated. The other students should post a first draft by april 3th. They should also upload an illustration by april 10th. The semester will be over on april 24th.

I am trying to figure out the best strategy for the other 12 students. If I understood it correctly the Guild of Copy Editors that you suggested to Mike is an option only when the article is already in the mainspace. However, the other 12 students are not familiar with Wikipedia as Mike. Therefore, ideally I think it would be better to have them to post first on their sandbox and having ambassadors giving them feedback first.But I don't want to take advantage of you and the other ambassador. I don't know how much time do you have. Please, let me know what do you think about that and which strategy do you suggest. Thanks! Mbegali (talk) 01:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks!! I want to be sure that I understood correctly. My students will post their articles on their sandbox tomorrow. Then, they will enroll in the wikipedia course page. Here, they will "add an article". At this stage, they will add the link to their sandbox. At the end of they will add the link to the real article (the article in wikipedia). Let me know if I understood correctly. Thanks!

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Diberri's Tools Question
Hi Keilana, I have to use Diberri's Template Filling tool for citing journal articles using a pubmed ID for my Wikipedia article, XRCC4, for the Molecular Biology class at JHU. I have looked up the instructions and they are not clear. Can you please help explain the step-by-step instructions or provide a link with clearer instructions? Do I begin by choosing "cite journal" under the templates pull down menu? When I choose this method, it lets me fill in all the journal specifics but only creates a named inline reference. If I use Diberri's correctly, would the reference start with DOI as a link? Thank you for your help! Cdunca12 00:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdunca12 (talk • contribs)

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hi there .I am writing just to ask, how would an editor contact you in order to suggest a possible closing of the jerusalem rfc discussion? would a note here on this page be sufficient for that? just wanted to ask. I appreciate any help with this. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 20:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Steve, I think we're going to close the RfC when ArbCom and/or Mr. Stradivarius ask us to. If you think it's wrapping up, ask Mr. Stradivarius when he thinks it'll be done. Thanks! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 20:42, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * hmm, okay! thanks for your reply. I left a note in other places as well. thanks! --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 20:50, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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THAT was worth the read. I was going to comment on the talk page - but somehow I don't think it would be considered "improving the article". — Ched : ?  22:11, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * We set off the national archives firewall/filter so many times trying to source that article... Kevin Gorman (talk) 22:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * hi, i see a rumor that Attila is on the list, but need a reliable source. lol <font face="Vivaldi">Slowking4Farmbrough's revenge ⇔ †@1₭ 22:59, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * There's no reliable source about Attila or a Roman general unfortunately. Ched, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And Kevin and Ed - that's the most fun I've had collaborating in a long time. Thanks for helping! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Nice to meet you - cross-posting from WS
Keilana, it was very nice to meet you at the GLAMWiki Boot Camp yesterday! I hope you find time to visit us on WS now and then.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll definitely try to proof a page now and then. Thanks for helping to introduce us over there, it was lovely to meet you too! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:09, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for clarification regarding Jerusalem RFC
A request for clarification has been submitted regarding the ArbCom mandated Jerusalem RFC process. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll take a look, thanks for the heads up. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Death during consensual sex
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 * Never! Thank you! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles on constellations, such as Andromeda, and on women scientists, such as Marie Lachapelle, and for successfully showing the value of females by your sheer kind presence for others, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (26 November 2008, 22 April 2012)!

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 * Oh my gosh, thank you so much! You are so kind. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 15:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Can I get you for wording DYK for me? More than 15k, - my best ever was 4.7k, also a woman. My flower pic in that article was taken to the Russian Wikipedia, not be me;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fantastic! :) Tatiana's got a really interesting article, thank you for educating me. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 21:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * DYK on the fifth anniversary of her death, I like those personal connections. Another founding member of the Rheingau Musik Festival, Walter Fink had his DYK on his 80th birthday, mentioning that birthday, I was there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooh, that's interesting too. That must have been an interesting experience. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 21:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It was! This year's composer Fazıl Say, should have a better article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Finally I reached the 5k threshold! Franz Kafka works, DYK? Thank you for moving prep to queue, that is so hnelpful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Congrats on the DYK views, that's wonderful. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Keilana. I see that you're an online ambassador. I'm the Professor for Aaron Frank's environmental law class, and while you're not signed up for my course, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at any or all of the articles my students are working on. One of the aspects of this sort of course is that students understand that they are putting their work out before the wikipedia community for review. In the past, there hasn't been that much activity on their pages as they were working on them. I was hoping that if you were willing, you could take a look. If not, no problem.

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Blue Qu'ran
It was very nice work. Since March I planned to expand this article for DYK's standards but you were first. Congratulations. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 15:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Significant issue
Hi Keilana, I have a significant issue affecting a Wiki educational assignment that I would like to discuss with you offline. How can we do this? I'd like to discuss this by phone.

Thanks Jgould1400 (talk) 04:20, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * In the meantime, is there a way I can send you an email? Jgould1400 (talk) 04:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I realize that this article is the subject of an educational assignment but it also is a Wikipedia article where normal talk page guidelines apply. Hence the most straight forward way to discuss improving this article is on the article's talk page and not through private e-mails. Jgould1400 and Cdunca12 have done a great job of expanding this article. However as explained here and here, I believe the Inadequate lead banner still applies. I have also made some specific suggestions here and here which have not been adequately responded to. Boghog (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, the assignment ends tomorrow - I'll drop a comment on the talk page for the rest. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 21:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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What more can I say, that I didn't say in email? Now, teach me how to make smiley faces, woman! :D <font color="8B00FF">Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ <font color="007FFF">Gold 03:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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In case you're interested...
...I have nominated Perseus (constellation) for GA. StringTheory11 (t • c) 00:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey StringTheory, given that I haven't really worked on it I might be able to do a review if you'd like. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 15:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like User:Astrocog beat you to the review. Anyways, I'll probably try to improve it to FA, and if you could help with the history information (which I have practically no knowledge about, lol, and that seems to be your specialty, from what I've seen), it would help me a ton! StringTheory11 (t • c) 21:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * (testing that new ping thing, let's see if it works!) Wow, that was fast! I'd be happy to help with the history and mythology stuff. I know for sure I have some Polynesian and Chinese stuff hanging around; I think Perseus was featured in one of the few things I could find about Japanese star lore so I'll try to track that down. If I haven't gotten to it in a week or two bother me again, I'm notoriously bad about remembering to do things I say I'll do! Congrats on the GA, I just read it over and you did excellent work. Best, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 22:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool - I did a bit of a copyedit too. I was musing on Phoenix (constellation) just to keep things moving - I was a bit blocked on Orion as it is so big....Corona Borealis or Triangulum might be fun too...and then we can sling up a double mainpage FA with their southern counterparts which are already FAs.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm up for whatever, settling into my new job so I should have a little bit more time for editing. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 14:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ahaaaaa, take your pick then.... (toss a coin...roll a dice..) :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I've personally always been interested in Cygnus (constellation). It's huge and there's a ton of interesting stuff in it, so it will be a challenge, but it will have a huge benefit to readers. StringTheory11 (t • c) 15:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oooh, Cygnus has some great mythology both Western and Eastern. Though Aquila (constellation) or Vega (constellation) would be a little less rich and afford us the opportunity to write about the Qixi Festival... So many options! (80 or so, at last count... :P) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 15:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Dang, so many to choose from - Traingulum is looking easier as the stars (and there are only a few of them) are all looking pretty interesting. Cygnus would be a monster job....but fun too.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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My time is limited, so to keep the production line a-humming, I'm buffing the modest ones ....Phoenix (constellation) and Triangulum....all input appreciated. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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You probably never thought about me, but I just wanted you to know that you were one of the very special friends I made here, I remember from your first day! And how I watched you grow, become an admin, and how much I think of you, even with all the stuff in your life, you are an inspiration. Thank you for allowing me to come on the journey with you. (And if I could do stupid emoticons, there would be a heart there!) <3 <font color="8B00FF">Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ <font color="007FFF">Gold 23:02, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC started
Hi Keilana! I just realised that I hadn't told you that the Jerusalem RfC had started yet. It's been open almost a week and has already generated quite a large amount of discussion, so if you like to watch the RfCs that you close then now would be as good a time as any to start. :) Sorry I didn't let you know sooner. Best — <span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 11:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Hi Andrew, I'm sorry but I just don't have the time, I'm very behind on both a lot of real life and wiki things right now. Good luck though! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 14:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Freedom of speech
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The image you tried to add is redlinked, so I reverted to the old one. Are you sure you uploaded it properly? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for working on "In the media"!

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...is awarded to User:Keilana who has dilegently worked to close the gender gap on Wikipedia and related projects through content contributions, outreach, community changes and related actions. ```<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven  <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk  18:44, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Aww, thank you hon! That's so kind of you! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 19:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Fuck reply
Thank you for consulting me about improving an article on Wikipedia related to Freedom of speech.

I'd strongly suggest you first watch the documentary Fuck (film) and read the book Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties.

Both are highly informative but in particular the film itself has an interesting topical structure and format that could be useful to you for ideas.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you! I've got a copy of the book and the film's on YouTube, so I'll get started on those sometime soon. I really appreciate your input. :) Best, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 23:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds great, enjoy Fuck and Fuck and feel free to keep me posted on the research and/or the status of your quality improvement project. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Will do, I may hit you up for a review sometime! Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 01:45, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: Both are now listed as Good Article quality status rating. Feel free to use them as models, research, take a look through their secondary sources for your quality improvement projects, etc. Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:14, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * 2) Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties
 * Awesome work on those! They look fantastic! I'll definitely be digging up some of those sources. Right now I'm in the insane research phase, hopefully I'll get to writing soon. :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 00:03, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC close
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Requesting mediation help
Greetings Keilana. Your name came up in a request to find a mediator with experience handling complex disputes here User_talk:AGK. As it turns out, I may be the one in need of a mediator with your expert abilities. A talk page dispute has begun on a recently-promoted feature article here Talk:Gospel of the Ebionites which has a long history. I expect this article is going to end up in WP:FAR very soon, and it will need the guidance of an experienced mediator to keep it out of WP:FARC. Would you be willing to act as a mediator should the need arise? Cheers. Ignocrates (talk) 00:07, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to mediate, just be aware that my specialty is science, not theology. :) Let me know if you need help. Best, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 03:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fine. What we need is more logical thinking on this project. Thanks! Ignocrates (talk) 03:36, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The more the merrier. Please feel free to review the sources used as well. I think in general it is agreed around here the more reliable are the reference sources, rather than the academic journal sources. If you can access the Anchor Bible Dictionary, also, to see if the author is in fact named either at the article itself, or in the list of contributors, that would be one less thing I would have to do later. By the way, considering this matter is also related to something which the arbitration committee is apparently accepting, I don't think any sort of formal or informal mediation is necessarily going to be useful, at least until the end of arbitration. Feel free to review the history of this article, the Ebionites article, previous arbitration and mediation efforts, etc. John Carter (talk) 23:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * and Okay, I'll take a look tonight and over the next couple days (fair warning - I'm dealing with health problems and have a lot on my plate, it may be Friday before I get a really good handle on it). I do want to clarify, would you rather I post my totally independent "3rd opinion" assessment of what I think, or do you want me to assess where the conflict is and try to step in and calm things down? They aren't necessarily mutually exclusive but unless I magically hit the middle ground that makes everyone happy with the former (and is highly unlikely) I'm going to end up being a disputant (albeit a really nice, polite, reasonable, detached one). Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 23:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * My short-term goal in asking for mediation help is to be able to lay out the content issues in a logical way so that the reviewers at FAR can understand them. Some of them may be rather easily resolved in a calm atmosphere (e.g. adding content about Justin Martyr to the article), and we should try to resolve them. I believe the bigger issues - such as JC's stated desire to reduce this feature article to a stub and start over - are beyond the scope of mediation. You should also be aware that JC is in the process of filing for arbitration, an action which I support. The arbitration committee will want to know if further mediation efforts are likely to be fruitful. That's where your overall "3rd opinion" assessment is going to be especially important. Hope this helps. Ignocrates (talk) 03:00, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, so unless John objects, I'm going to look through the article and the talk page dispute and lay out my understanding of what the conflict is and give some reasonable suggestions for how to resolve it. I hope I'm helpful even though my theological knowledge is limited. Best, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 15:20, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You may also want to read User:John Carter/Guidelines discussion to help make sense of the talk page. High quality sources, Encyclopedia pillar of wikipedia, and Current discussions which might relate to some proposed guidelines are particularly relevant. The point is to get rid of secondary sources and replace them with a limited, pre-approved list of tertiary sources, primarily religious dictionaries and encyclopedias. I think you can figure out for yourself what is going on here. Ignocrates (talk) 12:23, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You know, Ignocrates, I am at this point never even remotely surprised when you engage in blindly irrational, clearly prejudicial, misstatements of fact. It is, at this point, more or less expected from you. But at no point did I say anything remotely like I wanted to reduce it to a stub and start over. I realize your blind emotionalism, and perhaps pathological devotion to non-notable neo-Ebionitism as represented by the Ebionite Community/Ebionite Jewish Community, makes the possibility of your engaging in rational discourse on this subject unlikely at best, but would it really be impossible for you to at least once in a while make some effort to deal with realities, rather than your emotional overreactions to them? John Carter (talk) 19:04, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I misunderstood your intentions. I was responding to the following statements you made on the article talk page: "this article looks to me to be, basically, far far short of the standard of even a good article" and "what might be most required here is basically another total rewrite". Ignocrates (talk) 20:49, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You clearly did - you have a longstanding history of seemingly jumping to hysterical conclusions about the conduct of others, including In ictu oculi on Dougweller's talk page, where you wanted to take him to ANI for disagreeing with you, and elsewhere. I stand by my first point, because the article seems to be basically the effort of one person with a rather clear and obvious history of POV problems regarding the broad topic of the Ebionites, and particularly the Ebionite Jewish Community/Ebionite Community, which apparently considers itself the “revival” of the original Ebionites, that person being you. You put this version of the article together in userspace, asking and apparently receiving few comments, and then requested, basically, a rubber stamp of your work. Following the usual procedure of developing the article in article space, there is a very good chance that it would have undergone more thorough review which might have resulted in some of the material being contested earlier. It is in fact not unreasonable to think that you sought to avoid any sort of outside review, possibly trying to game the system, by doing so. I repeat my basic point that the article does not seem to in any way reasonably comport to the existing standards of other encyclopedic content to any degree of quality. And by saying it needs rewrite my primary concern was that the structure of the article could, reasonably, be changed to conform to the standards of other existing reference articles, considering there is no clear MOS for religion yet. In that case, following the lead of other reference sources seems reasonable. You have a longstanding history of overreaction, Iggy, and emotionalism. Please make some apparent effort to overcome them and actually deal with the points made, rather than your own irrational conclusions about them, if you can. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 22:11, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Please, refrain from insulting each other. It doesn't solve anything. I'm almost through reading everything and will post something tonight or tomorrow. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 19:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you are back, I have to ask: where have I insulted anyone on this page? Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean by "each other". Btw, we are still awaiting a post from you. Thanks. Ignocrates (talk) 18:17, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You might wildly speculative and honestly fairly clearly wrong aspersions about my motivations, for a start. I was not referring to reference works per se, but highly regarded ones, which most reasonable people would realize means those which are still highly regarded. The way to etermine that is to check the reviews at the time of publication, and most major reference works get multiple lengthy reviews, and to determine in the relevant academic journals if those opinions are still held in high regard. Maybe if you had edited more than a half dozen pages in your life, you might have a better grasp of such things. Also, as I said on Nishidani's talk page, the purpose is primarily to come up with guidelines regarding "religious" topics which are either minority opinions in the outside world, opinions of minorities in the internal world of religion and belief, and opinions which had been held earlier, but are now not given much acceptance. Those topics are the essence of the six links I added at the bottom of the page. And I am truly curious about your recent concern for "defamation." None of us here are really supposed to be concerned about our reputations. That is an indication, sometimes, of some sort of COI. I remember, oh, someone telling me about the Ebionite webring. The "reputations," if any, of editors here on webrings, or anywhere else, is not considered an acceptable motivation, and never has been. I don't have the time to check up on that, but I would be interested in finding out if someone called Ovadyah or Ignorates was a frequently discussed topic on them, or a particularly frequent contributer there.
 * Also, to Keilana, the recent proposal was made the way it was because the last previous proposal got derailed by two editors who have very strong religious opinions and are, unlike Ignocrates, rather widely known around wikipedia. It was to prevent the sometimes irrational comments of those editors, and editors like them, that I started it, effectively, by invitation. I do think that there is a good basis for thinking we should have some such guidelines, and if you think it would be useful to maybe discuss the proposal in the Signpost, feel free to do so. John Carter (talk) 20:39, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Both of you have made some backhanded comments at each other, I've had family in town and am trying to finish up an article for the Signpost, my comments on this are next on my list after the Signpost stuff. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 18:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 June newsletter
We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

Round 3 saw a number of contributions of note. claimed the first featured topic points in this year's competition for her excellent work on topics related to Maya Angelou, the noted American author and poet. We have also continued to see high-importance articles improved as part of the competition: was awarded a thoroughly well-earned 560 points for her featured article Middle Ages and 102 points for her good article Battle of Hastings. Good articles James Chadwick and Stanislaw Ulam netted 102 and 72 points respectively, while 72 points were awarded to  for each of Władysław Sikorski and Emilia Plater, both recently promoted to good article status. Collaborative efforts between WikiCup participants have continued, with, for example, and  being awarded 180 points each for their featured article on Boletus luridus.

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