User talk:Khazar2/Archive 12

GA review
Although u made an edit to the article Thuppakki which is awaiting a GA review (I am the nominator), do u still think u can review it? If yes, pls do so. the article's remained a nominee for nearly a month. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, as you've probably noticed on the nominations page, it's not uncommon for articles to wait 2 to 4 months for review, though some are reviewed sooner. I may review this at some point in the future, but no promises. Thanks for your work on this one either way! -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for a very thorough GA review of Sea and additionally for the barnstar. It was fun working up the article (in collaboration) from its limited previous size. Much more interesting than trying to find references for unattributed statements! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It really is so much easier to work from scratch. I know it's un-Wikipedia-like in some ways, but in a few of my major article overhauls lately, I've just been moving in from-scratch drafts from my user space if no one actively objects on the talk page.
 * Anyway, my pleasure! I learned quite a lot working on this one, which was fun. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:22, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

POV tag Iruña-Veleia
Hi Khazar2, I've seen you removed the POV tag. I can just remove the content, or add the tag again. The issue remains the same, with ongoing development on the events and different positions in the academy. This is a kind of issue that arouses passions around it, and the citation provided of a known Spanish newspaper with vested views on all political and cultural Basque topics is a quick and feeble support, not to mention the "fabricated pieces" section heading and the wording used. RegardsIñaki LL (talk) 15:07, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If you can fix the issues you see, that would be great. I'd say be bold and go for it.
 * I don't have any specific knowledge of this situation; I'm just removing some old POV tags where the discussion has been abandoned. The tag is only meant to be used when editors are in the process of working out an issue. If conflict breaks out again, of course, you could re-add the tag until the discussion is resolved. Thanks for your work on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi again, unfortunately this is marginally a topic I deal with, but will try to re-arrange the section when I have time. Thank you for the feedback! Iñaki LL (talk) 21:41, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Slavery by Another Name
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow. Looks like this one made it to GA before getting featured at DYK :P  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  18:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I've seen it happen before but this is the first time it's happened to me, I think! A rare and nice surprise. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This is the first time I've seen it.. Congratulations!  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  18:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:38, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Trust me, Mohamed, it's always a nice surprise. Now, FA (though not TFA) before DYK... I think that's only happened once. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * How did it happen at all? That's pretty astonishing. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:10, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Frank's Cock was in holding for April Fools' Day, went through FAC and passed (then a group decided it was too delicate a subject matter to use for April Fools', so it ran in DYK on 1 December [World AIDS Day] instead) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:05, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I should have figured it was a special event DYK. Still quite impressive. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm still quite giggly about it. Mind you, I'm also impressed at how you've worked on numerous book GAs recently... very good job. And your high profile biographies... cripes, I wish I could do that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Basically I'm trying to get double-duty out of my sources--I write an article from it, then write another article about the source itself. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Very nice indeed. I've only done ... two articles on non-fiction books, and the one is far behind your standard work. Alright, back to work for me (my lecturer has me translating one of Riffaterre's books. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

GA review
Hey Khazar,

Wanted to let you know that I've completed addressing the GA you reviewed for me. Easy pass this time, which is nice and greatly appreciated. You've been doing such good work here, so I appreciate your time. Best of luck! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Your articles are always a pleasure to work on: well-written, interesting, and practically ready for promotion. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


 * And thank you, especially for the pass and for the shiny barnstar, too. I like it when my articles get a smooth pass like this one.  I believe strongly that it's my responsibility to make sure that the articles I submit for any review are ready.  Too many editors, I think, use GAN and FAC to get feedback on their articles.  There are other places for that, like simply asking another editor you respect to copy-edit an article for you.  The feedback you receive in GAN and FAC are invaluable, but it bugs me when an editor puts up an article that's badly written and sourced and expect extensive assistance.  As a reviewer, I go ahead and review those articles anyway, and spend too much time doing so, all because I want to help make these articles better.  I'm in the Wikicup (made it to the fourth round!), and it's so much more time than the 4 points a GA review is worth.  Ah well, what can you do?  Rant over, thanks for letting me share. ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. I've started being stricter about failing nominations that have glaring and persistent copyediting problems, or which are nominated by drive-by editors who haven't worked on the article yet, but still there's a lot of weak nominations that eat up a lot of time. It's hard to know what to do about them.
 * On a side note, congrats on advancing so far in the WikiCup! -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:23, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I should probably be as mean as you are. ;) I've never quick-failed a nom, but I've come close. I can't bring myself to it, because many of the editors who submit articles to GAC are relatively new, and I think it's important to mentor those folks.  I mean, I certainly was guilty of the same thing until I learned that making sure an article is ready makes everyone's life easy, especially mine.  Yesterday, I had two GAs fly through with very little trouble.  Like I say, ah well.  And thanks for the congrats; I squeaked through Round 3 almost at the last minute.  I don't really expect to get further, since the competition is really rough.  It's fun, and I've fulfilled my goal of getting to Round 4. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 06:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiJaguar

 * Ha! I'd never even heard of such of thing, but will adopt it with pride--thanks. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

William Keating review
Thanks for another review. Keep up the hard work, it's much appreciated by everybody. —Designate (talk) 03:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Feedback request
I'm not sure if you have time, but I've created this large article Al Khawalid. I think it could use some improvements. I'd appreciate if you or any of your page stalkers (wink at Crisco 1492) would help with it.  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  14:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd be really interested, but it may be a while before I get to it--tomorrow I'm going on a weeklong wikibreak while my stepson visits us for a week. (I may be on answering questions, etc. in the meantime, but won't be doing any substantial editing). I'll put it on my post-return to-do list, though, so I won't forget. One initial suggestion I have a glance is that it seems a little recentist; almost all of the article seems to be about post-1999, particularly the last few years. I may change my mind when I read it in more detail, though.
 * Thanks for working on that one! You've improved our coverage of Bahrain so much. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Enjoy your time. Will be waiting for your feedback ;)  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  14:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Dwayne Wade edit request
Please add this: Wade married his high school girlfriend Siohvaughn Funches but filed for a divorce in 2007. He has two sons, Zaire Blessing Dwyane Wade (born February 4, 2002) and Zion Malachi Airamis Wade (born May 29, 2007). Since 2007 he has been in a relationship with actress Gabrielle Union.

Thank You. 71.191.244.33 (talk) 13:57, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You should add that to the article's talk page; someone more knowledgeable about Wade than I can make the decision. Thanks for the suggestion! -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:17, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

GA mentorship
Unfortunately I didn't had time, but I will have intermittent time. Could we start now or is the recruitment period over?--Aichik (talk) 00:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You could definitely start now. I'm on break for a while, though, and have another recruitee I need to finish up with first. I'd suggest you ask one of the other reviewers listed at WikiProject Good articles/Recruitment Centre/List of Recruiters; there's several there without any recruitees who should be happy to help out. Good luck, and thanks again for your interest... -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:03, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Pilot (Devious Maids)
It has been 10 days now. Can you revisit Pilot (Devious Maids).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Will do--sorry for the delay, thought I had it watchlisted. -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

2012 Delhi rape case
Why are you posting the victim identification topic in Biographies of living persons noticeboard? You are posting the topic on the wrong noticeboard. As you know the victim had died. TransVannian (talk) 04:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, a) BLP applies to "Contentious material about living persons (or in some cases, recently deceased)" and b) the case still involves living people such as the defendants and family. If it's in the wrong place, someone there can point that out and remove it. You don't need to take all this on yourself.
 * Please don't show up here again looking for a pointless fight over technical issues. You're picking enough fights and causing enough disruption for any one user already. Please remember that most of us are trying to write an encyclopedia and are not interested in arguing with you about whether a rape victim fighting her attacker is/isn't braver than a soldier fighting her enemy. -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:22, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not picking any fights I thought the topic was in the wrong section. Besides the victim died in December 2012. She's not recently deceased. I think you've posted topic in wrong section. Also I'm not causing any disruption and I've already stopped that comparison long ago. I hope you understand that I'm only doing what Wikipedia policies say. Thank you. TransVannian (talk) 14:16, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Six months is still reasonably recent, compared to, say, fifty years. Relatives are still alive and could easily be affected by any misinformation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * My pleasure! I've been working to get rid of as many of those old tags as possible. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

A minor change to DRN
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Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
I think this is now ready to promote, and have done so. Congratulations. The review follows. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:30, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


 * That's terrific news--thanks again for reviewing. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:56, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
I think we've now worked through everything, and the article's ready for GA. As I say in the review, the issues were relatively small, and all of you had done excellent work before I arrived and started nitpicking. Congratulaions! Review follows. I think I'll take on Bill of Rights next, and, also, if you ever want me to review more, please ask on my talk page. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

ANI posting re death threat
If I had a penny for every vandal that posted the death of someone living to their article... —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 16:45, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I wouldn't characterize my reaction as "panic". Asking for action against a vandalism-only account is a pretty standard step, and in any case, there's a difference between posting a fake death report, and posting that someone will die this year on a day that they're being threatened with lynching. You can take your condescension to another forum. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow. That was not even close to my intent. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 17:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Giving me a "Don't Panic" template seemed pretty straightforward, but if you were just picking a random smiley, I apologize for misunderstanding. I do appreciate your taking the time to look into it. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

New page
Hey, I created the page for a democracy activist Park Sang Hak, and I was wondering if you would take a look at it and tell me what you think? Also, I'm having trouble adding categories to the page, do you know what I might be able to do to correct that? Thanks! Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 19:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd be glad to. It'll be a week or so before I get to it, though. I've been on Wikibreak and the work has piled up. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 16:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of United States Bill of Rights
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Your GA nomination of Manal al-Sharif
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Your GA nomination of The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery
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Thank you

 * Thanks! -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:11, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Your welcome and you deserve it. SMP0328. (talk) 01:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA Review for the Gammage Cup
Thanks for your review of the Gammage Cup. It was extremely helpful and I will continue to work on it. I just have two questions for you that have come up:

 Thanks, Eatmark (talk) 02:30, 21 July 2013 (UTC)Eatmark
 * First of all I was wondering if the amount of content in the article was adequate or if there was more needed.
 * Secondly I wasn't sure how two address the issue relating to primary sources (weather to add sections, ect.)
 * My pleasure--I'm glad it was a help. I'll respond to your questions there to keep the discussion in one place. -- Khazar2 (talk) 05:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

You're changing the topic of
By deleting the word unproven name and putting victim's name you are changing the topic. Please do not do this. You cannot change the topic of other user's discussion especially an RfC. Please do not do this again this is against Wikipedia policies. Not every edit is subjected to a consensus for example you cannot change the topic of RfC filed by another editor. TransVannian (talk) 08:37, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You said just yesterday on your talk page that you're a new user and don't know Wikipedia policies. You were correct that time, and wrong this time. -- Khazar2 (talk) 08:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Ktzi'on Prison
Dear Khazar thank you for removing the tag on Operation Matateh. Could you look at the ones on Ktzi'ot Prison? Best wishes. Padres Hana (talk) 11:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ I don't have an immediate opinion on the other tags, but the POV tag is clearly out of date without ongoing discussion. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Q
If you have time, do you think you could give a pass over Boenga Roos dari Tjikembang in preparation for FA (just to make sure I'm not a complete idiot and missing something obvious, or if there are gaps)? It's a really good book (and in English too!), and I'd like to try and have it on the main page some time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll take a look later this weekend. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:49, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:54, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:52, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

FAC: Trees (poem)
We've crossed paths a few times on WP:GAN, and I respect your keen eye on reviewing articles. As a Literature PhD, I think this might interest you.

I've spent some time working on an article about Kilmer's most beloved poem--"Trees"--and have today nominated at WP:FAC, the nomination is located here: Featured article candidates/Trees (poem)/archive1. If you have the time to offer some comments or suggestions, I would be honoured.--ColonelHenry (talk) 18:20, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I appreciate the kind words, but FAC isn't really my bag--I'm pretty much a GA specialist these days. I do wish you luck in getting it through. The Superman II block quote is a really terrific touch. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If you're interested in a read on another poetry topic, my previous, successful FA candidate, Duino Elegies will be TFA on 2 August.--ColonelHenry (talk) 21:02, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I was the GA reviewer for that one--I remember it well! Congrats, and I'll look forward to seeing it hit the front page. -- Khazar2 (talk) 21:43, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

 * My pleasure, and thanks for the book! -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Always a pleasure to give you extra reading material ;-) BTW, next month I may bug you for a look at a considerably larger article... not done expanding yet, I want at least one more biography on the subject and a paper by A. H. Johns before I even consider sending it to GAC. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:47, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Happy to be "bugged"--drop me a line when it's ready. Actually, I can just give it a GA review if you like. I try not to do too many for people I'm pals with for form's sake, but it's been a while since I've done one for you and your work is consistently excellent. (Plus, I'd have no problem failing you if it came to that. ). So it's your call--I can read it pre-, post-, or for GA. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
I truly appreciate your continuing efforts on behalf of the Editor of the Week Project...from nominating and seconding to greeting the recepients. I was worried that the # of nominations had declined and that very few other WER members take the little bit of time to say "Well done". Thanks for making me smile. ```Buster Seven   Talk  14:21, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your continuing leadership there. I come in contact with a lot of good editors through GA reviews, so I'll try to keep adding a name or two a month--I think it's a terrific way to highlight different contributions. -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Washington: A Life
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Many thanks
Thank you for reviewing those coin articles, I do appreciate it. Please let me know if I can review one of yours, I am said to be decent at reviewing.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * My pleasure--I'm hoping to get to the last one this afternoon/evening. Since you've got a law background, if you were interested in reviewing Third Amendment to the United States Constitution at some point, either informally or for GA, your input'd be welcome. But please don't feel you need to reciprocate-- I quite enjoy GA reviewing for its own sake, and this was just a small gesture of thanks for all the quality articles you're always producing. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:25, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to. Not a lot of case law on that one, I remember.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Almost none at all, really--a startlingly easy article to write. -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Just feel like sharing

 * That's great, great news! Congrats! ::clink:: -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Clink indeed! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

C-SPAN
Hi Khazar2, I wanted to let you know that another editor has reviewed the C-SPAN edits and updated the article for me. If you still wanted to look over the article, please go right ahead. I'm planning on submitting it for FAC shortly so any extra review before then would be helpful. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk &middot; COI) 18:55, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear it. I don't know if I'll have time to review soon, but best of luck at FAC! -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Foreign-language version
Hi Khazar2, I would like to invite you to the discussion about the article Foreign-language version. Thank you for joining us, Hoerestimmen (talk) 22:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I'm honestly not knowledgeable enough to pitch in much here; just fixing some minor grammar points at the article. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Third Amendment to the United States Constitution
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Your GA nomination of Article
The article Third Amendment to the United States Constitution you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Third Amendment to the United States Constitution for comments about the article. Well done! Wehwalt (talk) 01:43, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's five amendments so far this year. Starting to wonder if I should just go for the whole kaboodle, but the 2nd is probably more hassle than that project would be worth. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:52, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Washington: A Life
Hi. I wanted to introduce myself and thank you again for allowing a recruitee to review your article, I posted my review a few minutes ago and am excited to see your thoughts. Thanks again!--BuzyBody (talk) 02:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review and suggestions--working on implementing them now. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:17, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: If that painting is PD, that cover is so simple you can put it on Commons. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello
I saw your revert on Washington: A Life, it's fine, didn't really knew about the direct quote. BTW, can you hand some assistance in other page? Thanks. Capitals00 (talk) 16:03, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe. What specifically do you need on other pages? -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:09, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Jawaharlal Nehru, check the talk page, and edits, and suggest, thanks. Capitals00 (talk) 00:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * An article like that is a big job--I'm going to have to pass. Best of luck with it, -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:41, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Washington: A Life
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Your GA nomination of Washington: A Life
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Martinelli
Hi, I am trying to add what I feel its important information to President martinelli's page, but clearly I dont know how to do it properly according to wikipedia standards. Can you give me any pointers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackshark5 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep. Sorry for the preformatted warning templates, I've got a lot going on today. Two rules of thumb are that you can't post material cut-and-pasted from other sites (for copyright reasons), and you can't post negative information without sources. It's fine to post a summary if you're sure the sources are reliable sources by Wikipedia standards (see WP:Reliable sources). I don't know enough about the Council on Hemispheric Affairs to say immediately if they qualify or not, but the Knight Center statement should be attributed to them in text to preserve Wikipedia's neutrality (see WP:NPOV). So, for example, "In 2012, the Knight Center for Journalism in the Americas criticized Martinelli's accusations against a journalist..."
 * I realize this sounds like a lot of policy, but writing about sitting presidents is a delicate thing, and it's important to be balanced and neutral. Hope this helps! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Bill of Rights
I've reviewed. Pretty damn good, though with a short list of quibbles. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:53, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
I wasn't aware of the quotation system! Cheers! Bboppy (talk) 19:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thank you for your work! Wikipedia always needs more good copyediting. Drop by and say hi any time. -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for EotW nomination
Many thanks for nominating me for the Editor of the Week. It was a tremendous compliment, and I'm grateful for it.

Of course, now I really have to keep my promise about helping to review GA nominations... I'm going to watch one more of my own through the process, and then I'll have four, which'll be enough of a sample to give me an idea of how it should be done. I'll probably be in touch with you when I'm ready to try it myself, if you're still up to mentoring me.

Thanks again for the nomination -- Ammodramus (talk) 02:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * My pleasure; the nomination was well-deserved. And as for GA reviews, I'd be happy to help any time, just let me know. Enjoy the week! -- Khazar2 (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of United States Bill of Rights
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United States Bill of Rights
I have promoted this to GA, and must apologise it took so long. Great work! As usual, the review follows. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:09, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox help
hi. i am working on my wiki sandbox. could you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parth pratim (talk • contribs) 02:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe. Can you be more specific about what help you need? -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:36, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am a new editor and I keep trying to add links to my sandbox. please advise if you can.Partha pratim gogoi (talk) 04:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it not working to add links to your sandbox? You can add a wikilink by adding two brackets: Iceland -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:04, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry. I am trying to add these references.


 * http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/realestate/24living.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=2&adxnnlx=1375197985-wh+SobaazeoORzZ1AvGzDg


 * http://www.detail360.com/architect/gordon-kahn-and-associates-pfid_2389135.htm


 * Can you help me with reference code? Partha pratim gogoi (talk) 15:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I added one as an example for you. Just click on "edit" or "edit source" (don't use visual editor) and you can see what I did. Happy editing! -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Appreciate it! I'll use this code as my example now. Thanks a bunch. 122.177.74.171 (talk) 17:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Anytime. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

At bats
"At bats" is perfectly appropriate. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:07, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not the standard usage for any major publication I can find, including sports-specific publications. E.g.,, , , , , etc. What are you looking at for your source? -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The phrase comes from the baseball rule, which can be found in the official mlb publication here.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:17, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * But even the official rules always use the hyphenated version for the plural "at-bats", right? E.g., the link from our at bat article. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:21, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * There is certainly not a completely uniform approach, but the highest-level and official sources tend to not use the hyphen. So there is no reason to "correct" a usage that is used by mlb.com, etc.


 * The Official Baseball Rules (as codified and adopted by the Professional Baseball Official Playing Rules Committee), published by The Sporting News through at least 2005, and the Official Rules of Major League Baseball, published by the commissioner's office through Triumph Books in the late 1990s, never used the hyphen.
 * The Macmillan Baseball Encyclopedia (MLB's official encyclopedia through the 1990 edition) always used "at bats", from the first edition (1969) through the final tenth (1995).
 * Total Baseball (MLB's official encyclopedia beginning with the 1995 edition) used "at-bats" beginning with the first edition (1989), but dropped the hyphen beginning with the sixth edition (1997); the final seventh edition was in 1999.
 * The official American League Red Book and National League Green Book did not use the hyphen at all (from the late 1940s) until the AL began using it in 1987; the NL book never used it.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * So, basically, the official baseball rules were the authoritative source when you thought they supported your preferred spelling; when it turned out to be the other way round, you had to do some additional Googling. Well, can you give me a link or two to these so I can sort this out? Also, are there any current publications that don't use the hyphen? I notice most of your examples are older; it's possible this usage has just changed over time.
 * The other problem here is that many Wikipedia baseball articles use a mix of "at-bats" and "at bats". For example, two of the articles where you reverted me now are back to having both forms, which just looks ugly. It seems logical to standardize this per the current official rules and secondary publication usage. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:43, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * On second thought, never mind. Frankly, I think the good faith thing to do after getting your first example completely backwards would have been to at least acknowledge that; the fact that that didn't happen suggests to me that this conversation has already passed the point where reason is going to matter, and this isn't an important enough issue to me for a hyphen-fight to the death through the baseball encyclopedias of the '80s. I won't change any more using AWB; I may still occasionally, manually standardize articles that use a mix of the two. Fair enough? -- Khazar2 (talk) 21:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that it is clear that the predominant use in the official source is to not use the hyphen. I acknowledged that "There is certainly not a completely uniform approach".  Perhaps you missed it.  But I also wrote that "the highest-level and official sources tend to not use the hyphen".  I still stand by that.  The first ref I gave you was to the official baseball rules, which predominantly use the non-hyphen spelling.  Baseball sometimes has interesting spelling conundrums.  My favorite is RBIs ... analogous to MIAs ... rather than RsBI.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The current official rules appear to me to use the hyphen every single time they use the plural "at bats"; I'm not sure what you consider "not completely uniform" about that. Though perhaps you're right that usage in the '80s and early '90s was more variable. -- Khazar2 (talk) 21:27, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, I owe you an apology. I did miss part of your comment; the indent-then-outdent threw me off and made me think you were just hitting me with a second round of examples. I should have looked closer, and I'm sorry about that. -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:04, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries. Are you suggesting that the "proper" use is with a hyphen for singular, and without one for plural?  If so, what is the basis for that?  I believe this issue has been discussed a number of times across the project; if either of us has time or inclination, we can search for the discussions.  I see one at "at bat" ... which, of course, does not use the hyphen ... as a result apparently of the consensus, after discussion.  It is hard to search for on google search, as it does not seem to distinguish between the two as best I can tell.  --Epeefleche (talk) 23:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I'm saying exactly the opposite, actually. The plural seems consistently hyphenated, though the singular is variable. If you look at a section of the MLB rules that uses both "at bat" and "at-bats", like the one I linked for you above, it's clear that they always use the hyphen for the plural. This is also true of all pages I see on the MLB site, including records, rules, and news coverage. You can just type in "site:mlb.com "at bats" " into Google and see hundreds of examples, like so. So I can't argue with the 1980s and '90s baseball publications that I don't have access to, but the MLB current usage seems both obvious and consistent. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh ... I thought you were saying that when the singular is used, as in a batters time "at bat", it is without the hyphen, as reflected on the mlb.com site at the official rules here.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:16, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No, "time at bat" is definitely not hyphenated. The phrase "an at-bat" appears to occasionally be hyphenated. "At-bats", which is what I was attempting to change, appears (currently) to be always hyphenated by MLB, sports publications, and major newspapers. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:21, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I shouldn't have let myself get sucked in again. I've agreed not to fix any more of these, and I've no doubt we both have better things to work on. I am glad, though, to meet another editor with my taste for minutiae--cheers, and thanks for your work, -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm happy as well to meet another seasoned editor, who similarly is ever-in-search it would seem of the sometimes elusive "right answer," but who seasons that with a "let's not miss the forest for the trees" reasonableness. I wasn't seeking to stoke the flames, just to be clearer, but I hope you didn't mistake that for something other.  Pleasure working with you.  Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:33, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Pennsylvanian
Thanks for stepping in and completing the review! Best, Mackensen (talk) 17:27, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome; it was a pleasure to read. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:45, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Question regarding references. – Plarem (User talk) 14:58, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Banner removal
What are your suggestions to submit a request for banner removal? Thanks for your suggestions and help. Hiland109 (talk) 19:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It depends on the article. You can actually just remove a banner yourself if you feel it's been added inappropriately, though it would be courteous to discuss on the talk page first if it's a recent addition. Is there a particular article you're looking at? -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I am new to this so I am reaching out to you for the help. Take a look. Do you think you can help to remove the banner? The article in reference is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Benmosche Thanks for your reply and your collaboration. Hiland109 (talk) 11:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not really familiar enough with that article to say if it's out of date or not, unfortunately. My suggestion is to post to the article talk page (Talk:Bob_Benmosche) to ask if editors feel the problem has been addressed, and if it's okay to remove the tag. If no one responds in a week or two, go ahead and take it down. All best, -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I'll circle back about removing the banner. Any other advice or links to remove the banner? Hiland109 (talk) 21:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * None beyond what I already suggested--post at the talk page to ask if editors feel the problem has been addressed, and if it's okay to remove the tag. If no one responds in a week or two, go ahead and take it down. If they have objections, you'll have to work those out there. All best-- Khazar2 (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Question re Database Reports
Hi. I am trying to learn more about the inner workings of Wikipedia & stumbled onto this page []. Can you tell me what it is about? It was confusing to me. Thanks!--BuzyBody (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Some lists of articles are automatically generated to aid cleanup. For example, Database reports/Unbelievable life spans finds biography articles with unrealistic birth/death dates; an editor can then see it on the list and address the issue manually, to see if it's a typo, a legend, etc. Database reports/Potential biographies of dead people (1) lists articles that both give a death date and are listed in BLP categories, meaning that something needs to be fixed. I'm not familiar with all these lists, but that's the general idea. -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. Definitely helps. :)--BuzyBody (talk) 02:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Hi Khazar2. Did this notification get missed? The article is on hold since last weekend. Best, -- Diannaa (talk) 18:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope, I responded to all points just a few hours after you put your review up, I think. Is more work needed? Just let me know. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:42, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Dude! it looks like I forgot to watch-list the page. Sorry about that. I will finish it off this afternoon when I get back from the dentist. now. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ha, no problem. Good luck with yer teeths... -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Where does it fit in Good articles/Philosophy and religion? It might make more sense to list it under world history. I am going out now and will be back in 1-2 hours. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Religious figures and leaders" might be closest fit, but perhaps it's best to just stick it under "Historians, chroniclers and history books" -- the religion category doesn't seem to have a section for books. Thanks again! -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:22, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Rotnei Clarke/GA1
Thanks for the review... I would have appreciated it if you put the article "on hold" rather than failing. I had to wait 4 months for a review and was not even given a couple days to fix or defend anything I did when you yourself said the article was "close". Either you were just being polite and you really think the article is crap or I feel I should have had a chance to address your concerns without having to wait another 4 months to get another review. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:24, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't by any means think the article is crap, and I meant what I said in the review--the article is really good work in many respects. That's different to me than it being "close", though, and if I did say that (I'm not sure where you're seeing it), I apologize for the misstatement. My take is that it'll need substantial rewriting and rechecking in some sections to address the issues I saw; generally if a substantial rewrite is required, I think it's better that that take place outside the GA review and that a fresh reviewer look at the resulting draft.
 * I realize you've had to wait a long time, and I really do apologize for that. If/when you renominate, I'd be glad to put a note at WT:GAN mentioning your previous wait and asking if anyone will pick it up more quickly this time. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:00, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, thanks for the clarification. You are correct that you didn't use the word close - I should not have put it in quotes - but that was certainly my impression from the wording of the review. --ThaddeusB (talk) 18:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, that's very kind! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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