User talk:Laudak

Khanoda
I saw your comment where you wrote: "PS This edit (and some others) of the author of all this stuff reminded me my childhood: when playing hide and seek, and nobody can find you for a long time, you get bored and make a noise to attract attention to be found....in vain..."

I'm sorry, after reading that, all I could think of was you as a kid playing hide and seek and everyone feigning to play along; only to leave you there hiding behind a tree for hours. LMFAO. By the way, Laudak, it's called promotion. And at the time when I created those wiki pages for Khanoda that's what I was doing. But then again, you're firm assessment that I would go through the time-consuming effort to create numerous pages as some kind of hoax, clearly indicates what a truly developmentally disabled, socially maladjusted, paranoid-neurotic you are. I guess after an abusive childhood where you were left "bored" and screaming from hiding places in order to be found must've played an integral part in that. Get well soon. LOL. Billbo_merkz 02:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

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Category:United Kingdom pop musical group stubs
I listed it for discussion here, which is the correct place. Feel free to contribute to the discussion. Sorry about the bureaucracy, it gets on my nerves too. the wub "?!"  18:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Neotectonics
I nominated your article, Neotectonics, for DYK for September 25. If you disagree with this nomination or do not like my hook, please feel free to change it however you want. Regards, -- Mattisse 01:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Avalanche control, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Water stop
Shit happens. Do you want me to slap a tag? `'Míkka 18:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Great work on this article Laudak. This was a fascinating subject that I'd never heard of before! It's actually a little scary that computers are making up better jokes than I can. --JayHenry (talk) 22:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

List of wikipedia-related insults
Just to clarify:


 * This page is not a listing of specific Wikipedians. It's a page of euphemisms about or referring to Wikipedians (as well as referring to Wikis and Wikipedia). As such, it doesn't belong in Category:Wikipedians.
 * Category:Wikipedia Wikipediology - if you look over the category, you should see rather quickly why it's not appropriate here either.
 * Category:Wikipedia as a media topic - Do you have a link showing that this list has been an article in the media? It looks simply like original research.
 * Category:Wikipedia culture - You could possibly make an argument about this being added to rhis category of general essays, I suppose. But in looking over the page, it's clearly just a copy of a bunch of words taken from the urban dictionary. This isn't so much "culture", as a "List of X" page.

I previously removed the culture cat and left the media cat, I see now that that was incorrect.

I'm removing the first 3, and leaving the culture cat (for now). Be aware though that the page itself may be nominated for deletion if it doesn't develop into more than just a list of semi-associated words. - jc37 08:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is a list of quite well associated words. Laudak (talk) 23:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Egg Dance
Nice work on expanding the Egg Dance article. It looks like you must have spent quite some time in the library looking up all that stuff. Richerman (talk) 15:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Today the following text was posted on Mikkai's page, who posted it on mine. I would say it ended up as a three way international collaboration - I started the ball (or the egg!) rolling, Mikkai worked hard to bring it down the field and you helped to put it in the goal; Happy Easter! Richerman (talk) 20:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Happy Easter my friend. Thanks for the nice thought of adding these festive articles!  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The Jewish Question
Very much appreciate your understanding of the issues involved, and taking the appropriate action! Cheers. --Ludvikus (talk) 23:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you check if I did everythong properly regarding my move requests I'm showing you below? Also I welcome & value your independeny opinion on the matter at hand:

*Jewish Peril → The Jewish Peril - The latter is the exact, correct, title of the book/pamphlet (1920). --Ludvikus (talk) 12:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC) *Final Solution → The Final Solution - The latter is the common usage - except[ion] to WP rules? --Ludvikus (talk) 14:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanx. --Ludvikus (talk) 15:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed name-change space
Hi. Thanks again for your assistance previously. Also, I noticed your copyediting work - good job!!! I wander if you could advise where to go to propose a name change. I seem to have lost the address. Thankx. --Ludvikus (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've made a posting like so (Please advise if in correct & proper form. --Ludvikus (talk) 02:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)):

[edit] 8 May 2008 Historical Revisionism (negationism) → Historical Revisionism -- It's the common usage. --Ludvikus (talk) 02:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Brenda Biesterfeld
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Good luck!
You'll needed it. I've noticed your attempt to edit Historical Revisionism - very difficult place. And I really believe - having seen your work elsewhere - that things can only get better with your presence. Sincerely, my best wishes to you. --Ludvikus (talk) 15:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI. There are only 3 active editors there. No one else seems to be willing to touch the sight - oops- gotta go. The water for my coffee's boiling! But I'll be back. --Ludvikus (talk) 16:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What I want to tell you is that I find there's no correlation whatsoever between that first footnote and the (1st) paragraph to which it refers. I suggest you read carefully the text they quoting as their reference. --Ludvikus (talk) 16:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * But that's a minor point. You realize that mainstream scholarship holds "Historical Revisionism" to be so much hogwash. And that it's substantially known for its holocaust denial. But you wouldn't know that would you by reading this Wikipedia article? A word to the wise is sufficient. --Ludvikus (talk) 16:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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Cliff Gallup
Moved to Talk:Crazy Legs (album). Laudak (talk) 23:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Crazy Legs
Moved to Talk:Richard "Crazy Legs" Colón, since it is beyond personal chat. Laudak (talk) 23:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

shass
can you please explain this edit. It seems to that Shass Pollak does not directly relate to mishnah and should not be in the see also. Jon513 (talk) 17:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As laudable as a goal as having the article improved it is not a valid reason for it to be placed in the see also. Shas can refer to either mishnah or talmud depending on the usages.  By linking to shass pollak in a article about the mishnah is misleading.  Jon513 (talk) 18:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I gave a valid reason as well. Also, Misleading in what way? Laudak (talk) 19:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Citations missing
Concerning your addition of the "citations missing" tag to several articles: The use of footnotes is not required by Wikipedia's citation policy. Technically, a list of sources at the bottom of an article is sufficient. It may not be the nicest way to do things, but that is what the community has upheld so far. If you want to use that template you should specify (on the article talk pages) which individual points you think should have footnotes. Otherwise, the template itself is of no use. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Kafziel Complaint Department 22:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I beg to disagree. Long articles actively edited by numerous anonymous editors without inline reference cause a natural suspicion in correctness. I don't think that peppering numerous statements with cn tags will look better. The articles in question are based mostly on opinions and conclusions of certain scholars on the subject, not just a description of, say, sun or copper which may be found in many places. These opinions/generalizations/conslusions must be properly attributed. YOu say "it is of no use". I beg to disagree: it brings attention to undercited article. As for the citation policy, I suggest you to see the guidelines for "good articles" and "featured articles". I don't think most of us be happy not having the articles in question not judged as "good" simply because our policies naturally very tolerant and favor content versus formality.  But good articles must conform both content and formalism. Laudak (talk) 22:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not a matter of disagreement. Wikipedia policy does not require footnotes. Everything must be verifiable, but it is not required to be neatly attributed. Suspicion or not, that's just the way it is. Guidelines are guidelines, but can not be forced on every article. This has already been addressed on the template's talk page.
 * I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't use the tag, and I'm not saying you should use tags instead. I'm just saying you should make a note on each talk page to list which specific passages you'd like to see footnotes for. If you do it that way, the tag is just as useful as  but (as you said) looks much nicer for the average reader. If you don't do that, how will anyone know when enough footnotes have been added to remove the tag? Kafziel Complaint Department 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand your position. Please look into my contributions, and you will notice that I am not a bot driver who accumulates his edit count by liberally tagging whatever can be tagged. I came to these articles via chain of wikilinks and this series struck me as severely undercited. As to "when enough footnotes", this issue, as numerous other ones are judged by wikipedians' common sense. You cannot write a policy for each and every keyboard click. Finally, please consider that for many  readers the information who said something is just as important as what was said, and it is not simply the matter of scholar courtesy. Especially, like I said, in  the areas such as politics, sociology, etc. I understand that big fat tag on top does not look pretty, but long articles without a single footnote look unporfessional.  Laudak (talk) 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I certainly didn't mean to give you the impression that I thought your edits were excessive; those articles' references could certainly use some improvement. The thing is, the only power that tag has is in its ugliness; since it isn't backed by policy, it doesn't have any clout unless specifics are mentioned. For example: Since we require citations to be provided on demand, and we also require (except for BLP) some notice before deleting large sections of articles, a tag that goes ignored for too long means the offending text can be deleted. But since there's no policy requiring footnotes, the  tag can be ignored indefinitely and nothing can be done. Without a note of explanation on the talk page, it's just a tag for the sake of being a tag. Like , it doesn't say anything of value.
 * Obviously I can't make you do anything you don't want to do. But, considering how sparingly you've used it, it wouldn't be hard to specify a handful of passages in some talk page comments. Anyway, don't worry about it. I didn't mean to imply you were abusing the tags or anything like that. I'll try to take a look at the articles when I get the time. Kafziel Complaint Department 02:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bandwidth.com
I added some references to Bandwidth.com. You may wish to revisit Articles for deletion/Bandwidth.com. -- Eastmain (talk) 18:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Pinchas Hirschsprung
I have heard this numerous times from students that tested him. A student of his told me that he tested Rabbi Hirschsprung and he correctly said each word for 60 folios from the starting point and was so specific that he said "the daled of deileh, in Tosfos". However please give me some time to find it recorded somewhere citeable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavhathehunchback (talk • contribs) 20:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Clobber (disambiguation)
Hi. I reverted your edits to Clobber (disambiguation), according to MOS:DAB, specially the point "The description associated with a link should be kept to a minimum, just sufficient to allow the reader to find the correct link", in MOS:DAB. --PeterCantropus (talk) 19:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagreed. Laudak (talk) 22:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * May I ask why? --PeterCantropus (talk) 23:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Explained in edit summary. I respect your work to stick to the letter on the guideline, but description "computer term" is useless because it not a definition of the article subject. Laudak (talk) 15:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the point: it doesn't have to be the definition, it just have to have the sufficient context to allow the reader to find the correct link. And it's NOT useless, because a computer term is clearly a different thing from an abstract strategy game, and from a trick card based game. --PeterCantropus (talk) 18:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Whatever you say, but I find your version of context insufficient. Don't you find it ridiculous wrangling over 2 extra words? Laudak (talk) 00:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

humor
Thanks for taking an interest in the theory of humor section. I didn't understand you comment about not appreciating the difference between theory and research in humor. B. Mistler (talk) 23:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Category:Non-fiction books noted for humor
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 * Whilst that is true, it came across at a little bit demeaning to me. I don't know why, anyway, yeah, have a nice day. &mdash; neuro(talk) 19:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's probably me just being the classic grumpy tired guy. :) &mdash; neuro(talk) 19:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

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Deceased Wikipedians
I have reverted your edits to the above whilst we gain some consensus at the BLP noticeboard discussion. Pedro : Chat  22:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Laudak,

Looks like we stepped into the same hornet's nest. I also nominated Deceased Wikipedians for deletion as well as JeffPW (Deceased wikipedian)';s for exactly the same reason. I agree that policy says Wikipedia is not a memorial. I've said so on the BLP page. Just a heads up ! &mdash; KoshNaluboutes, NalubotesAeria gloris, Aeria gloris 18:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, obviously there are strong subcommunities which want to commemorate their members, and the rest of wikipedians just don't care. Wikipedia's non-article space is gray area for all kinds of activities not related to creation of encyclopedia: they have been playing chess, having wikifun, cracking jokes. I am wondering about wikiweddings now... Oh, and then how about in viko conception? Some people are really having a Second Life in wikipedia, no wonder. Laudak (talk) 15:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Deceased Wikipedians, the Redux
Laudak,

Look like there's a proposal for how to handle deceased wikipedians right [|here:]. Check the section labeled "Memorials" for interesting reading.

&mdash; KoshNaluboutes, NalubotesAeria gloris, Aeria gloris 16:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

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Just, lol
Having a look on your contribs, I saw that your recent edit on Web Brigades followed your edit on Coprophilia. Upon a bit of thinking, it occurred to me that the article on Web Brigades is actually very much of coprophilia in essense. ellol (talk) 15:19, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Userpages
In what language (if any) is your userpage? Thank you. DS (talk) 21:09, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What's your guess? Laudak (talk) 21:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note the "if any". There's suspicion that it's an idiolect or conlang. DS (talk) 11:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Correct. Laudak (talk) 17:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
I appreciate the re-organization of the Oath Keepers article. Varks Spira (talk) 04:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Ryan Higa and Sean Fujiyoshi
Hello,

I can understand why you are making the edits on Ryan Higa and Sean Fujiyoshi that you are making, but you are doing so on an incorrect principle. Namely, you are mistaken in that primary sources are allowed. Youtube most certainly is a reliable source for stats about Youtube. It does not require any original research to conclude they are the most subscribed Youtube channel, as Youtube itself tells up as much. We can discuss this on the article's talk page further if you want, just let me know. --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Laudak, I'm Airplaneman. I feel that I have to raise this issue once more. Blanking relevant content instead of finding sources for them is not helpful. The entire video section was sourced, yet you removed it. Please consider finding sources for content that helps illustrate the subject of an article instead of removing it entirely. Thank you, Airplaneman  talk 05:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * According to wikipedia policies, unreferenced original research may be removed at any time. Videos themselves are not valid reference for encyclopedic content. Laudak (talk) 05:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Is leaving it up against policy? I'm slowly working on getting refs. I was adding two more and got edit-conflicted, and decided not to save the edit and instead discuss it with you. I do not see why using videos for publication dates and overviews as well as information is against policy. See this explanation. I and others use the video sources with care and only when the info cited is contained within the source. I would like to restore the content and work with it further. Regards, Airplaneman  talk 06:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Using a primary source for non-controversial information is perfectly acceptable. A list of the videos they've made can legitimately be sourced to the videos themselves and is not original research. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So what's the ppoblem, then? Please provide references and don't restore unreferenced information. Laudak (talk) 00:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The video section IS sourced (to the videos themselves). This is perfectly acceptable since it isn't controversial information.  Feel free to start a discussion on about if you disagree, but please stop removing it. --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it is controversial: there is not a single ref to videos and their descriptions. How do I know someone invented a dozen titles, just for lulz. Laudak (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

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