User talk:Logosx127



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Change Name of kattumangattu Abraham Mar Koorilose
Why your change kattumangattu Abraham Mar Koorilos I into kattumangattu Abraham Koorilos I ? Oytrfu (talk) 06:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Per MOS:HON. Mar is a Honorific used in Syriac Christianity. Logosx127 (talk) 06:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Please improve this draft article of Malabar Independent Syrian Church Metropolitans
Please Improve Draft article of Malabar Independent Syrian Church Metropolitans and Move to Mainspace. (Not Remove Mar )

Draft:Zacharia Mar Philexenos I Draft:Joseph Mar Evaniose Draft:Geevarghese Mar Koorilose III Draft:Kuriakose Mar Koorilose VI Draft:Geevarghese Mar Koorilose V Oytrfu (talk) 07:18, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

We have certain policies at Wikipedia, one of which is MOS:HON. Therefore honorific title like Sir, Madam, Mar, Mor, Dr., etc. will be removed. With that being said I just had a look into the drafts. The main problem is that you haven't provided any reliable source. That means you must add references from books, newspapers, websites etc. You will find atleast some in the internet itself. Just have a look. One you have added references, we will certainly make these articles into mainspace. Just message me if you want anymore help. Regards Logosx127 (talk) 09:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

These books will be of great help. Logosx127 (talk) 09:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia article not showing in Google Search
The Wikipedia article of Kattumangattu Geevarghese Koorilose II Geevarghese Mar Philexenos II Joseph Mar Koorilose IX Not Showing in Google Search this three article is completed 90 days and other confirmations. Please fixed it Oytrfu (talk) 05:16, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

It will take time, don't be frustrated. Keep adding sourced content to those articles. Logosx127 (talk) 13:34, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts&#32;as a sockpuppet of &#32;per the evidence presented at Sockpuppet investigations/Br Ibrahim john. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Bbb23 (talk) 13:20, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

please look into my request. I am not a sockpuppet. Logosx127 (talk) 17:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

please look into it again, I swear that I am not a sockpuppet. I have been really working hard here building an encyclopaedia. But now everything is lost in an instant. Please.. Logosx127 (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * There's no doubt you're the same editor as . You'd be better off working towards a standard offer than denying what is obvious from a cursory review of your accounts.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

if that's true, then what stopped you from labelling me confirmed.!! Let me repeat. I am not a sockpuppet. And I've been unnecessarily blocked. Logosx127 (talk) 05:38, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Note for editors should they consider reviewing this editor for future unblock requests: editor appears to have also used account during this period. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:46, 20 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Your best option is to take the Standard offer, as it would appear there aren't any admins convinced enough to lift the block, during the six-months it would help if you made useful contributions to other Wikimedia projects to show you can edit constructively, then once the time has passed make another unblock request and see if administrators are convinced by your request. StarryNightSky11   ☎  22:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

, yes ofcourse. I am very active in Wikipedia Malayalam and Wikimedia as of now. Logosx127 (talk) 01:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

In Malayalam Wikipedia, I have more than a thousand [edits https://ml.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%82%E0%B4%AD%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%A8%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%BE/Logosx127&target=Logosx127&offset=&limit=500], my native language. Very recently, I have created a considerably large and researched article കോട്ടയത്തെ മാർ ഗബ്രിയേൽ. Although most of the sources for this article is in English, I could not create the same article here in English Wiki. You know the reason. I have substantially improved many other articles there in Malayalam. For example the article അഹത്തള്ള, previously a small article is now many times larger and referenced than the corresponding article here. I also contributed to the Wikimedia commons during this block period. My original account is not blocked in both these sites. However I currently use this account alone. I have written about this in my userpage in MLWIKI. Logosx127 (talk) 01:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Logosx127 (talk) 02:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Checkuser data shows no evidence of recent block evasion. --Yamla (talk) 11:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you Logosx127 (talk) 10:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC)


 * , are you comfortable with an unblock here? TonyBallioni (talk) 04:44, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Are you recommending an unblock?--Bbb23 (talk) 12:47, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd be comfortable with an unblock on the condition of a one account restriction given the lack of socking and the activity on commons and ml.wiki, but I'm unfamiliar with this case so if you have objections I'd like to hear them before doing anything. Also pinging in if he's around since he made the initial block of the master from what I can see. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:31, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not comfortable unblocking a user who lied. I know that socks often deny socking, but this is more than just a simple lie. It was elaborate and repeated. The user was much less clear when they finally admitted socking, and although the admission was a constructive step, they still seemed to claim that they didn't do anything that wrong.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bbb23 I have no doubt that I was wrong. My sockpuppetry and lying was not in keeping with the etiquette here. It was an even bigger mistake that I lied. I should have shown trustworthiness and credibility to the other users here. I am asking for just one chance to never repeat the same. Logosx127 (talk) 02:20, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Logosx127 (talk) 01:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request
I do not know the password to my original account and I cannot reset the password as I have not linked it with my e-mail. It is effectively a dead account. I have been using this logged in account for a long time globally. Hence this is my only way.Logosx127 (talk) 09:45, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

is closed. Too bad about the lying. I really felt this unblock request. It moved me. No idea why user has not been directed to request unblocking via original account. I'm curious about the question above in. The user asking is blocked as a sock and that article deleted. What then is the connection with this editor? Why ask this editor for help with Google search? And the response was patient and solicitous. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I was trying to help that seemingly new editor but I do not know who exactly they were. I felt that he is a member of that particular church denomination. Logosx127 (talk) 13:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Can you please help me out. I feel like I am forever blocked. I know that you will hesitate to believe me considering my past actions. But can you help me get a standard offer? I am okay if the consensus created is to keep the block. I do not have any malicious intentions here.Logosx127 (talk) 13:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * That'll be up to the admin who reviews your request here. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:20, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Technical evidence does not suggest any recent block evasion. --Blablubbs (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Why are you not requesting unblock via original account? Thanks.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * User explains here that password is lost and account wasn't linked to email. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107; 17:15, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have lost the password to my original account. This was one of the reasons that motivated me to create a fresh account. Presently, I am using the current account for editing in other Wikipedia sites. But resuming my edits with it in English Wikipedia, before working on the existing block, was a great mistake from my part. Logosx127 (talk) 18:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If I may recommend, I'd probably say this user has done enough to justify an unblock. They're in good standing at Malaysian Wikipedia and seems very unlikely to make the same mistakes again that led to the block here in the first place. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 21:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * MJL asked me to take a look at this. I see their point but am not as convinced, and would like to hear from the admins who dealt with this user on their original account. @Bbb23: Have your feelings changed since July? @RegentsPark: Do you have any thoughts on this request? If the two blocking admins don't support an unblock, this should probably go to an AN appeal. -- Tamzin  &#91;cetacean needed&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 22:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @--jpgordon, for being bold and generous towards my request. It had been a very terrible time for me here in Wikipedia, regrettably due to my own fault. It has also made me shift my attention to Malayalam Wikipedia and it will continue to be my main focus of editing. I will also be editing here occasionally and I will make sure to keep my promises I've made in my unblock request whenever I do so. Thank you again. Logosx127 (talk) 16:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024
Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus, as you did to Syro-Malabar Catholic Church. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains underway. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. ''You moved a page despite a consensus opposing such a move. Additionally, the overturned previous consensus to move to Syro-Malabar Church was made by many editors who have been blocked since. ~'' Pbritti (talk) 14:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion on the issue in the talk page of the article and you are free to respond there. Wikipedia naming conventions are based on WP:Concise, and WP:COMMON. There's no ambiguity in the previous title. It is easier to follow. The move involved far less supporters and by doing so you've broken the consensus created three years back. Therefore my opposition is not an isolated one.Logosx127 (talk) 15:14, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that neither discussion raised much support either way. It seems that most reliable sources–particularly those affiliated with the Catholic Church or with intimate knowledge of it–utilize "Syro-Malabar Catholic Church" on first reference and "Syro-Malabar Church" in further references. This is fair similar to how a person's full name is often used on initial reference but then their surname is used for subsequent reference. Additionally, the IP (71.201.78.227) that most recently raised the issue looks at least a bit behaviorally similar to you and operated during your sock block. If that was you, I'd encourage you to say so. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's where the Wikipedia naming conventions have their role to play. Saint Theresa of Calcutta or Tensing Gyato may be used on the first line but the article title would be Mother Theresa and Dalai Lama. I really don't think its necessary for me to take responsibility of unknown and unrelated ips for their perceived similarities with me whatsoever. Checkusers have denied scope of any such accusation during this time. So I think we may stick on to this discussion. Logosx127 (talk) 15:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I recommend that you open a new discussion rather than resurrecting an old one with your own rationale. See WP:RSPM on how to do so. Do note that WP:RMC is maintained by an automatic bot with a clear disregard for manual entries in the list. A properly formatted request (as outline in the first link here) will be listed on that page by the bot accordingly. – robertsky (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Logosx127 (talk) 16:04, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Yes and thank you for the reminder. But I just removed it since I think I shouldn't have placed the notification in the first place. Logosx127 (talk) 01:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Veneration of Nestorius?
Greetings Sir, I have seen you added "Syro-Malabar" in the "Venerated in" Part of the Infobox and the article you sited was in Malayalam unfortunately most of us don't know Malayalam so Could you explain what a PDF you sited says? Also I removed the "Syro-Malabar" in the "Venerated in" part I have seen People use this page to attack Catholicism. Christin1000 (talk) 09:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, @Christin1000, I totally understand what you are saying. I am sorry for that fact that most of the Wikipedia users who do not know Malayalam and cannot understand the details in that source. But as a native speaker of Malayalam I can certainly help you. So I am adding the English translation of the text in the source pdf in the end of this comment. Before that, I want to clarify a few other things. Here at Wikipedia we operate under certain policies, notably impartiality, critical approach, and reliability. The Nestorian controversy was based on political and semantic issues rather than a theological dispute. We are not building this encyclopaedia out of a religious and emotional angle but with the perspective of historical facts. My suggestion is that you may respond with historical and factual information to those who gets offended or provoked over the content displayed here based on their religious preoccupation and prejudice. Here is the translation: Commemoration of the Greek Church Fathers The Fridays of Lent are commemorations of the public ministry of Jesus Christ. Martyrs and saints who gave unwavering witness to Jesus are especially remembered. Accordingly, in the "Ordo" published for our Church in Rome in 1959, the Fifth Friday of Denaha is seen as the commemoration of the "Greek Church Fathers". But in the 'Sliha' lectionary (Vat.Syr.22) written in 1301 at Kodungallur, it is recorded as the memory of the Greek doctors (i.e. Mar Diodore, Mar Theodore and Mar Nestorius). These are not really Greek doctors, they were the Antiochian doctors who wrote, preached and led the church about the true faith in Greek, the accepted theological language of the day.... The third Doctor is Mar Nestorius. A preacher and theological thinker educated at the Antiochian School, the Emperor invited him to become the Patriarch of Constantinople. However since the differences in the theological concepts used in the Antiochian and Alexandrian schools was not understood, Nestorius was accused of heresy. He was summoned to the Synod of Ephesus (430), denied the opportunity to explain his part, branded as a heretic and finally exiled. Although all his original works were destroyed, considering the book Bazaar of Heracleides and other seven epistles written during his exile, modern theological studies clarify that the 'Nestorian heresy' that 'there are two persons in Christ' is not true. This is confirmed by theologians such as Cardinal Grillmeier, André Dehalo, Luise Abrahamoski, and Sebastian Brock. Pope John Paul II and the head of the Church of the East, Mar Dinkha IV, issued a joint statement of Christology in 1994, that although following different expressions, they note that we share the same faith in Christ. The Church of the East in the Persian Empire felt that Mar Nestorius had become a scapegoat for their Antiochian theological views, even if he was not a patriarch or bishop of their church or kingdom. That is why the most elaborate anaphora of this church was named 'Sacrament of Mar Nestorius' and among the five occasions of the year when it was to be recited was added the memorial day of the Greek pastors! It is worth noting that the theological studies and practical suggestions has developed for lifting the ban on these holy saints in the unofficial dialogue between the Pro-Oriente centered in Vienna and Syriac churches. Logosx127 (talk) 13:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I sincerely thank you for your hard work to translate this source, and I am sorry for my mistake. Christin1000 (talk) 13:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. It is my responsibility to clarify the information in the source I provided to the other editors here. The translation is largely Google translator's and I did some necessary corrections to it for proper grammar. Logosx127 (talk) 13:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Meanwhile, do you still disagree, @Christin1000 ?Logosx127 (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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