User talk:Masterpiece2000/Archive 2

Princeton
Hello! I don't recall exactly why I created that particular category, however I think it was because there were lots of articles on politicians that mentioned "Princeton College." (Virtually all the articles in that category are members of the U.S. Congress, copy and pasted from bioguide.congress.gov) To be perfectly honest, I don't know if "Princeton College" is the proper name, so if it isn't, then we definitely should delete/merge/rename. I might have called it that because that was the name of the University's undergraduate college...but again, I'm not exactly clear. Thanks for pointing that out! Paul (talk) 20:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Really, really bad haiku from a new admin
Setting new lows in thank-you spam:

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A. B. so grateful

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Watch out DRV

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Copyright always confused

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Shucks those range blocks are tricky!

Will get it straight soon.



Dear RfA friend, I will learn, chaos will fade ''Thanks so much ... A. B.

This RfA thank you card is based on a card originally done by Phaedriel

Masterpiece, thanks for your support -- I look forward to living up to the trust you and others have put in me. -- A. B. (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Great success!
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 * Thanks! I understand; I'll do my best to avoid that path, but if I happen to err, feel free to troutwhack me! :-) — xDanielx T/C\R 11:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:List of users by pages created
Do as you like. -- Bryan ( talk|commons ) 09:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Renaming 1703 Genroku earthquake?
The naming of this article provides an opportunity to raise a few questions which seem worthy of further discussion. Up until today, the staid style of an article about Mt. Fuji exemplified the model I most preferred:
 * Historic eruptions of Mount Fuji
 * Jōgan eruption
 * Hōei eruption -- Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji, 1707

Gregorian calendar date? A first blush, I wondered how useful is it to begin an article name with a Gregorian calendar date -- especially when the event is better known by in relation to a specific nengō or Japanese era name? But I have noticed that there are a number of Wikipedia articles about earthquake disasters which incorporate the date as an essential part of the title. Would each one be improved significantly by deleting that date?
 * 1556 Shaanxi earthquake
 * 1703 Genroku earthquake>Genroku earthquake? ... Great Genroku earthquake?
 * 1755 Lisbon earthquake
 * 1884 Colchester earthquake
 * 1906 San Francisco earthquake
 * 1923 Great Kantō earthquake -->Great Kantō earthquake?
 * 2004 Chūetsu earthquake
 * 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake

Would it be better to remove Gregorian calendar dates from these titles? In my view, these dates are likely to become a kind of stumbling block for the Wikipedia user; but maybe I've got it precisely backwards? Maybe it's best to accept that this format has become a Wikipedia convention; but if so, how shall I be guided in creating new articles in the future? For example, the following list of significant pre-Meiji period fires in Kyoto comes from Ponsonby-Fane's Kyoto: the Old Capital, 794-1869. Would these as-yet-unwritten articles be significantly improved if the titles were formatted with a Gregorian calendar date?
 * List of Kyoto's Fires
 * Hōei fire --->1705 Hōei fire? ... Great Hōei fire?
 * Nishijin fire --->1730 Nishijin fire?
 * Temmei fire -->1788 Temmei fire? ... Great Temmei fire?
 * Ganji fire -->1864 Ganji fire?

Great? Many events are conventionally known as "great" -- as in the Great Hanshin earthquake of 1995, which includes the following explanation:
 * In early reports, the disaster was often referred to as the "Great Kansai Earthquake" (関西大地震 Kansai-daijishin). Its official name designated by the Japan Meteorological Agency is "The South Hyogo Prefecture Earthquake of 1995" (平成7年兵庫県南部地震 Heisei-shichinen-Hyōgoken-nambu-jishin). Official Japanese publications generally use the phrase "Great Hanshin-Awaji Earthquake Disaster" (阪神・淡路大震災; Hanshin-Awaji-daishinsai), which was selected by the cabinet around February. Some news reports also use the name "South Hyogo Prefecture Earthquake" (兵庫県南部地震 Hyōgoken-nambu-jishin), which is the shortened form of the official JMA title.
 * Great Fire of Meireki, 1657?
 * Great Kantō earthquake, 1923?
 * Great Kansai Earthquake, 1995?

As we all know, there are many earthquakes and many fires in Japanese history. In the context of Japanese history and Wikipedia, which ones need to be called "great"? For example: The Significant Earthquake Database lists an earthquake at Kyoto on the 25th day of the 7th month of the 13th year of Bunsei (文政十三年六月二十五日) or Friday, August 19, 1830 (equicenter: 35.000 latitude/136.000 longitude); but no Richter scale approximation was suggested.Online "Significant Earthquake Database" -- U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), National Geophysical Data Center (NGDC)....Click link for NOAA/Japan: Significant Earthquake Database<./ref> Nevertheless, the earthquake was perceived by Emperor s Ninkō as sufficiently "great" for the era name to be changed:
 * Tenpō gannen (天保元年); December 10, 1830: The new era name of Tenpō (meaning "Heavenly Imperial Protection") was created to mark the disasters of a great fire in Edo and an earthquake at Kyoto. The new era name was created from an hortatory aphorism: "Respect and worship the Ways of heaven. Eternally keep the Mandate of Heaven"  (欽崇天道、永保天命).

If a potential source does happen to provide more information about this specific fire, how should I reasonably expect to entitle a Wikipedia stub article?
 * 1830 Bunsei Fire? ... Busnei Fire? ...Great Bunsei Fire?

For now, I guess I can't do better than to follow the excellent example set by Masterpiece2000. I guess I would entitle the article with the Gregorian date included; and I'd simultaneously create re-directs from alternate plausible names as has been done with 1703 Genroku earthquake. Am I correct in taking this to be the exemplar I should imitate?

If so, should I begin a process of renaming Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji to read 1707 Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji?--Ooperhoofd (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC) ________________________________ Further context for these questions The following may help provide helpful context:


 * List of natural disasters by death toll
 * Great Kanto earthquake, 1923 -- 140,000 deaths
 * Great Ansei Nankai Quakes (安政南海地震), 1854 -- 85,000 deaths
 * Meiō Nankai earthquake (明応地震), 1498 --40,000 deaths
 * Genroku earthquake (元禄大地震), 1703 -- 37,000 deaths
 * Great Hōei Earthquake (宝永大地震), 1707 -- 30,000 deaths
 * Kamakura earthquake, 1293 -- 23,700 deaths
 * Mino-Owari Earthquake, 1891 -- 7,273 deaths
 * Great Hanshin earthquake, 1995 -- 6,433 deaths
 * Fukui earthquake, 1948


 * List of historic fires
 * Great Fire of Meireki, 1657
 * San Francisco earthquake and fire, 1906
 * Great Tokyo Fire following the Great Kantō earthquake, 1923
 * Great Hakodate Fire, 1934 -- 2,166 deaths


 * Historic tsunami
 * 684 - Great Hakuho Earthquake, Japan (白鳳大地震)
 * 887 - Ninna Nankai Quake, Japan (仁和南海地震)
 * 1293 - Kamakura Quake (鎌倉大地震)
 * 1361 - Shōhei Nankai Quake, Japan (正平 & 康安）南海地震)
 * 1498 - Meiō Nankai, Japan (明応地震)
 * 1605 - Keichō Nankaido, Japan (慶長地震)
 * 1698 - Seikaido-Nankaido, Japan
 * 1703 Genroku earthquake, Japan (元禄大地震)
 * 1707 - Great Hōei Earthquake (宝永大地震)
 * 1755 - Lisbon, Portugal
 * 1771 - Yaeyama Islands, Okinawa, Japan (八重山地震)
 * 1792 - Volcanic Tsunami in Kyūshū, Japan (島原大変肥後迷惑) -- eruption of Mount Unzen
 * 1854 - Great Ansei Nankai Quakes, Japan (安政南海地震)
 * 1855 - Great Ansei Edo Quake of Japan (安政江戸大地震）
 * 1868 - Hawaiian Islands local tsunami generated by earthquake
 * 1883 - Krakatoa explosive eruption
 * 1896 - Meiji Sanriku Quake, Japan (明治三陸地震)
 * 1923 - The Great Kanto Earthquake, Japan (関東大震災)
 * 1933 - Showa Sanriku Quake, Japan (昭和三陸地震)
 * 1944 - Tonankai Earthquake, Japan (東南海地震)
 * 1946 - Nankai Earthquake, Japan (南海地震)
 * 1964 - Niigata Earthquake (新潟地震)
 * 1983 - Sea of Japan tsunami (日本海中部地震)
 * 1993 - Okushiri, Hokkaido tsunami (北海道南西沖地震)]
 * 2006 - Kuril Islands tsunami
 * 2007 - Niigata earthquake (新潟県中越沖地震


 * FYI -- Fg2 suggested I might want to post this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan; and I have done just that. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Please note that a copy of this has been posted simultaneously at:
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan.
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disaster management
 * I look forward to discovering how this exchange of views will develop. Thank you for the work you did on the Genroku earthquake.  It pushed just the right button with me.  Obviously, these are questions that I'd been pondering for some time; and this became a convenient opportunity to move forward towards some kind of evolving consensus. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 03:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

User talk:John j Holland
I did not know he was a vandal. I will take it back and put a warning to him. Sorry about that. Chris (talk) 13:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome removed and warning administered earlier today. Chris (talk) 23:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

List of users
I would prefer not to make the request myself; since I appear on the list, it would seem like tooting my own horn. I think you can just make the request at WP:RM; if that's not the right place someone will tell you. Chubbles (talk) 03:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding sources and Lewis Barrows
Please reference the specific sections of the book for the specific items that need a direct source. The comments regarding his good job as gov, needs a footnote type reference. Please see the guide regarding references and citations. WP:CITE (i think is the right one). --Rocksanddirt (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
  You got a Christmas card! → → →

The Tart
Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately my article got deleted. Any ideas why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathancherry (talk • contribs) 15:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, I've appealed the deletion. Care to add a comment? deletion appeal --Jonathancherry (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Questions
Thank you for the compliment! If you wish to nominate an article for GA status, you can do so by following the instructions at WP:GAC. However, be sure that the article meets the GA criteria. Another editor will review the article, and choose to fail, pass or place the article on hold for 7 days, so that existing issues can be fixed. What article are you planning on submitting to GAC? Also, I think I will create a numbered list. Thanks for the suggestion. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * On second thought, the numbered list does not look so nice, in my opinion. I will stick with the bulletpoints for now. Thanks anyway, Nishkid64 (talk) 02:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Bardeen was quite a prolific physicist, and it would be excellent if you could bring the article to GA status. At the moment, I think the article needs a significant expansion and more references. His academic career is the most important part of his life, but it seems undercovered in the article. I'm sure Bardeen has been written about, so if you could find books on him, you can surely expand this article (possibly double or triple the article's length). I just looked and I found a recent book on Bardeen. It's called True genius: the life and science of John Bardeen: the only winner of two Nobel Prizes in physics, and it is by Lillian Hoddeson and Vicki Daitch (see Google Books). If you need any help with the article, let me know, and I'll try my best to give a hand. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Cleveland category
Please stop for a moment. Has this change been discussed? There is already a category for this content. Gimmetrow 03:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I don't have a problem with this per se, but there are bots to do such conversions. Would it be too much trouble to submit this to Categories for Discussion? Gimmetrow 03:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * What I mean is, there are editors who run automated scripts to change the names of categories in hundreds of articles at a time. I suppose you could keep changing these (I didn't check how many pages were in Category:People from Cleveland), but it would save you the work of editing all those articles to be in Category:People from Cleveland, Ohio. Gimmetrow 03:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Redirect from "People from Cleveland'
Don't forget about Category:People from Cleveland, Tennessee. Badagnani (talk) 06:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Your post to my Talk page
I'm sorry, I'm having difficulty understanding your post to my discussion page. I don't think the Cincinnati category (which I didn't ask about) needs to be renamed, because the only other Cincinnati other than the one in Ohio is a very tiny town in Iowa. Badagnani (talk) 07:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

My post was about the city of Cleveland; that is one city name that exists in several U.S. states as well as in England. There are some categories for cities in the U.S. as well as in other nations that only include the city name, and not the state or country name. These are fine when there is only one city of that name. Badagnani (talk) 07:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Elonka 3
Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate that landed on WP:100, but ultimately was deemed a successful declaration of consensus, and I am now an admin. :) I definitely paid close attention to everything that was said in the debate, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm going to take it slow for now -- I'm working my way through the New admin school, carefully investigating the admin tools and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools.  My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thank you again for your participation, --Elonka 07:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Your note
Done. Not much to do. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: Hello
Thank you for your concern. I don't plan on leaving Wikipedia for good, of course. I just don't know how busy I will be in real life in the future. I'm moving out in April, and will have no Internet connection for up to a few months. --Merovingian (T, C, E) 17:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! --Merovingian (T, C) 01:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: (User talk:ais523) Hello!
If you have private questions, you can send me an email via Special:Emailuser/ais523 (doing this allows me to see your email address). I've been quite busy last week, and was busy trying to catch up on sleep earlier this week... That's passed, although I'm not checking in every day at the moment due to some problems with finding an Internet connection. Hope that helps! --ais523 10:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks!
Thanks, Masterpiece - btw, use just "Shiva." I'm doing fine; it was a great feeling to see one of my articles appear on the main page (so yeah, I better boast about them). I'm aiming to write my first featured article soon (spent a few weeks trying to figure what it takes). I'm gonna need your help for that, for sure! Question: I'm a bit unsure if a "newbie" like me can vote at Requests for adminship or participate in administrative stuff (like speedy deletions, etc.); what is your opinion? Shiva eVolved  15:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi - could you please have a look at Leo Motzkin, which I've nominated for DYK? Mikkalai says that there are NPOV issues; I have corrected what I've seen, but I would appreciate if you had a look at the article look - these are the changes I made. Shiva eVolved  22:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks from one of the MPIs
Thanks that you liked the article, I tried to start all the Max Planck Institute articles which are not there already. The Max Planck Society is important enough to have the articles! I always have a problem with my english, but I try to do my best and there are enough native speakers around to improve my grammar and spelling. I like to add new articles from important chemists and institutions, because I like to learn something about the history of chemistry! Thanks and keep on your good work!---Stone (talk) 09:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

 *  jj137  ♠ 01:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: Articles
Hi there. I'm sorry to disappoint you but it's actually closer to 1,800. I put articles I create on my watchlist, which gives me a quick tally. A public page for listing them is a good idea, maybe one I should have started a while ago. Cheers! --Merovingian (T, C) 05:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I finally got around to making that page; you can see it at User:Merovingian/Articles. It's a good list, but most of the articles are just stubs, I don't always put a lot of time into them.  I think they're better than being redlinks nonetheless.  Have a good one.  --Merovingian (T, C) 14:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much; good luck to you in the new year! --Merovingian (T, C) 01:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
I look forward to seeing you around in the New Year! Best wishes of health and happiness--Nihil novi (talk) 09:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

An Administrator is I!
Adventurer! The Council has identified a number of strange occurrences (such as "vandals" and "articles for deletion") in the surrounding wilderness. The Council would check it out, but they have important Councily-type things. But never fear: brave adventurers known as "sysops" roam the lands!

Thank you for your support in my quest to become a sysop. Although I am now wielding the keys to my very own Bitchin' Meatcar, I promise to uphold the laws of the land, martini in hand, in a way that would make Saint Sneaky Pete proud. I will do my best to be a Jack of Several Trades (although I may be a Master of Nuns). I promise to Heart Canadia. And I will make it my goal to Make War, Not ... er, Wait, Never Mind.

I am glad to serve my guild, the League of Wikipedians. If I can be of any assistance, or you have any questions, suggestions, or criticisms in the future, please let me know. And if you are at a loss for what any of the above actually means, see this website.

Thanks again.

An Encyclopedia is We! - Revolving Bugbear  22:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks
  

Dear, here is a little note to say thank you for your kind support on my request for adminship which succeeded with a final result of (72/19/6).

Now that I am a sysop, do not hesitate to contact me with any queries you have. I would be glad to help you along with the other group of kind and helpful administrators.

Thank you again and I look forward to editing alongside you in the future. &mdash; E  talk 12:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

John Bardeen
I still think it needs expansion. Bardeen was quite prolific, and given that he's been written about in a number of biographical works, it should not be difficult to make signficant additions to the article. Also, I would prefer it if more book references were used in the article. Nishkid64 (talk) 23:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your support in my successful RFA. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 07:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * FYI, the username stands for "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". AliveFreeHappy (talk) 08:47, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Jacq LaMarche
I understand you nominated my article on this author for deletion. I've had a chance to think this through and calm down, but I would appreciate it if you refrained from referring to my work as "total crap" on a public talk page. Feel free to check out my other work on this site and you will see each article or revision is properly documented according to Wiki guidelines. If you have polite suggestions as to how I can improve that article, please let me know. Thank you for understanding. Mdb1370 (talk) 20:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry (December 2007 - Vandalism of article Translation (TOC) )
I understand. However, it has since been removed by Jeffpw (Talk). Joeyfjj (talk) 12:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year
All the best for 2008. Let's hope that the coming year sees a reduction on the stress that Wikipedia has seen recently. Jeffpw (talk) 09:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Best wishes in the new year! Nihil novi (talk) 09:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Committed Identity
Hello, thank you! Committed identity is a coded string connecting your Wikipedia identity with your real life identity, if that makes sense. So, everyone's committed identity is unique, and there are about 20 different types of hash that you can use. If you want to know how to make one, I'd suggest looking through this page. If you need help, just ask, I'd be happy to help you get it in place. Best, Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 13:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, you use the syntax . The "article" parameter shows up as "an SHA-512" or "a Whirlpool" or whatever, so you just choose the pertinent adjective. There are sites that you can use to create the committed identity, and you will most definitely want to save your original string somewhere exactly as you typed it in. Best, <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 13:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you'll understand it, if not, I'd be happy to help you get it in place. Happy New Year! Regards, <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 03:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * With enough computing power, yes. However, it probably wouldn't be worth their time, because it would just tell them some random meaningless bit of information about you (don't use really sensitive stuff, like your credit card number, because if your account gets compromised, you'll have to reveal your secret phrase to somebody.) I'd suggest a phrase like "My middle name is Foo" or somesuch. <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 03:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's very unlikely that they would try, and in the event that they would try, it would be really unlikely that they'd break it without having a boatload of computing power at their disposal, which most small-time hackers don't. <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 03:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's absolutely no trouble at all, just ask if you ever need any help, administrative or otherwise. Happy editing! Regards, <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 03:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
-Djsasso (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA Redux
Um, it's kind of complicated, judging from the discussions. In short, someone took me up on what I said at WT:RFA (that if anyone had lost confidence in me as an admin, I would immediately stand again). Thanks for your support, I really appreciate it! :) Best, <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk<font color="#990066">(recall) 13:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Book references
Yes, you should definitely include the page number. Chapters are not needed, unless you are referencing an entire section to one particular section of a book. You can take a look at T206 Honus Wagner or Samuel Adams for examples of this type of referencing. Nishkid64 (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

 * Thank you for taking the time to wend your way through my contributions. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 16:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle
Hello, Masterpiece2000. I'm fine and hope you are as well. :) Twinkle is a script that was developed to help editors with some of the repetitive tasks of maintenance. I used to extensively for some time in vandalism fighting. It offers easy options for rolling back changes, which can be marked as vandalism, as good faith changes or without assumption of faith. It automatically opens the window of the editor whose changes are being reverted and supplies a pull down list of warnings which can be quickly placed, with the specific article name already in place. It can be used to quickly mark pages for deletion through CSD or XfD. It's generally a very handy tool. However, it doesn't work with my firewall, so I can't use it anymore. :/ If you decide to go the Twinkle route, I'll give you one warning, that it's awfully easy to just mark all reversions as vandalism reversions; this is something to be avoided. Unless you're sure it's vandalism, it's better not to use that label. :) Let me know at my talk page if you'd like more information. Cheers. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. :) With respect to your question, I have no idea what a monobook.js file is; I only know how to open mine and do what they tell me to do to make stuff work. The installation instructions for Twinkle will tell you how to access yours. It's a simple matter of copy & paste after that, with the necessary additional step of bypassing your cache, which those instructions will tell you how to do. After that, you'll find new tabs at the top of the window. I can't tell you specifically what they are, because I can't remember what mine used to be. :) I know they include "warn" and "csd" and "xfd". When you want to access a Twinkle feature, you click on the tab, and it's pretty simple to operate from there. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Pseudoscience
Well, I really don't want to get involved in this dispute, but I think that people who are very strong proponents of or very strongly opposed to anything can be very vehement, and we should be careful regarding the issues. That's all I really meant to say, that we should strive for verifiable, neutral facts and a solution to this dispute. Best, <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk 03:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, glad I could be of service. :) <font color="C154C1">Keilana <font color="9955BB">talk 03:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment here. But look at the garbage and wikilawyering I got from ArbCom member last time I tried to call this situation for what it is. We just have to learn to work within these absurd restrictions. -- RG<sup style="color:#CC5500;">2 03:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

"Nice" / Civil
Hi. I saw a comment that you posted to User talk:ScienceApologist:  "Pseudoscience is not science. We cannot afford to be 'nice' to pseudoscientific theories"  I hope that's it's not rude of me to respond to this. I too am strongly pro-science and against pseudoscience. But a couple of things to keep in mind:
 * 1) The pseudoscientific theories that you mention don't care whether we're rude to them or not. But the people discussing pseudoscientific theories (and scientific theories) on Wikipedia do.
 * 2) Whether or not our style of discussion is "nice", it can still be civil.
 * 3) Regardless of our personal opinions about the proper style of discussion, civility is an official policy for participation in Wikipedia. Per WP:Civility:  "Participate in a respectful and civil way. ... be careful to avoid offending people unintentionally. ... Wikipedians define incivility roughly as personally targeted behavior that causes an atmosphere of greater conflict and stress. Our code of civility states plainly that people must act with civility toward one another."  According to the page on this policy, civility is the second most important core principle of participation in the Wikipedia project, after NPOV.

My own opinion on these matters is that we should act strongly against pseudoscience and for science, but that we should do so in a civil way, and that on Wikipedia we must do so in a civil way, regardless of our personal feelings on the subject. Again, I hope that this doesn't seem rude of me. Have a good one! -- Writtenonsand (talk) 11:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hello Master piece... i'm doin fine thanks.. the pleasure is all mine ;) .. where are from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liberal Saudi (talk • contribs) 13:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Britney Rears
I've been doing a lot of rewrites on the article since you argued for merger. If you have time would you mind taking another look at it, and reconsidering the current version?Horrorshowj (talk) 04:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Roger Myerson
Hey Masterpiece2000. To be perfectly honest, I do not know any more about Roger Myerson's professional work (which is obviously what is focused on in his biography) than anybody else. And anything I do know about him personally (which isn't much) cannot be added unless it is in a reliable source since wikipedia has a policy about no original research. I went to school with his daughter, so that's how I know them - but I haven't spoken to her in a few years. I don't recall if I've ever met Roger himself. I probably ran into him when I was in high school and didn't realize he was big deal at the time, but I know my father has spoken with him. I'd be happy to help if I had anything to contribute to the article, but, again, I honestly don't think that I know that much more than anybody else (except for the names and ages of his children, the street he lives on, etc.) and even if I did it can't be added without being sourced. After looking a bit, actually, some of his personal information can be found on his curriculum vitae here. Sorry that I can't help more! -Bluedog423Talk 22:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Copernicus
Thanks for your interest in Nicolaus Copernicus. He was a citizen of Poland, whose history stretches from 963 or 966, with a hiatus from 1795 to 1918 (the Partitions of Poland).

Copernicus is considered almost universally to be Polish, though some Germans would like to claim him as a compatriot of their own, chiefly on the grounds that he may have had some German ancestry. Ancestry, however, cannot be the sole criterion of national or ethnic belonging. Frederic Chopin's father was a Frenchman in his youth, and became quite Polonized.

In the days of the European Union, it seems pointless to be debating to death the question of Copernicus' "nationality." But if a nationality must be ascribed, it probably should be Polish. Nihil novi (talk) 07:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting
You're welcome. I can't remember how I found it now, but my contributions at the time were, um, interesting. If you want anything else copyedited, give me a yell. Graham 87 05:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, Western Australia is a huge state. Because of its isolation, some people say it's almost a country within Australia - in fact there have been proposals for Western Australia to be separated from Australia. The most sparsely populated of the Australian states and territories is the Northern Territory. Graham 87 05:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Biting
Could you try and not do things like [|this]? I know things are sometimes really ungood at AfD, but you have to remember that the articles creator, who is often a newcomer, read those AfD debates. Best try not to WP:BITE them. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I strikeout the word 'crap'. And, I was not trying to bite anyone. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 12:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Per your comments on my talkpage, I might have put across the wrong impression. I didn't want to suggest you were trying to bite, merely suggesting that it could have that effect. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mapulane Surnames

 * I have added the article Mapulana to this AfD. Please weigh in and modify your vote if you feel it's necessary. JuJube (talk) 13:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Peter Clift
It helps to give reasons why someone is a noted geologist, not just make the bare statement that you think he is. there are apparently some people who dont think a career like his is notable. Cant think why, but we've got to convince them. DGG (talk) 19:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)