User talk:Milowent/Archive 6

2014 Archive of the Talk Page of Milowent

January 2014
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 * id=SCo-AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=#v=onepage&q&f=false World Biographies], The Literary World  (July 1878, p. 35)

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 * article/2004/11/3/harvard-affiliates-lose-in-local-races/ Harvard Affiliates Lose in Local Races], Harvard Crimson

Ölüm Savaşçısı (film) Notability
Before I send it to AfD, which I really hate doing, can you give me some specific example of notability within WP:MOVIE? I concede that I may be missing something here since sources are likely in Turkish. But "it seems notable to me" doesn't quite meet WP:RS or WP:GNG. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:37, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I am going by WP:GNG, I was able to discern it is covered in Turkish film sources (and books), without even counting a huge amount of internet coverage we wouldn't normally cite. Granted, I'm no master of Turkish cinema, have only created Kareteci Kiz to this point.  If you put the tag back I'm not going to protest further, perhaps it will prompt someone to add additional sources, though that rarely seems to be the prompt for doing so.--Milowent • hasspoken  22:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Looking at deleted article
Hello, who is a good administrator to ask if I can see an article:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Psych_Central&action=edit&redlink=1

I would like to have it posted here: User:Igottheconch/Psych Central CAn you ask please? Thank you for your time. :) Igottheconch (talk) 07:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * While I'm not sure I'm a good adminsitrator, I think I can help you with your request. Normally deleted articles can be restored to a user's subspace to allow them to address the reasons for the deletion. In this case however the article was deleted as a copyright violation and therefore cannot be restored anywhere on Wikipedia. It will need to be rewritten from scratch in your own words.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys
 * Thankfully another admin emailed me this article. I then built upon this article.  The enforcement of wikipedia copyright is draconian, and many of these copyright deletions should never occur.  If someone else asks for an article, please email it to them, or get an admin to email it to them.
 * There should be a little template that every admin who will email alleged copyright articles to editors can post on their user page. Good editors are being discouraged from editing because of  bullies and editors completely ignorant of copyright law.  Igottheconch (talk) 07:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

March 2014
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 * ' (1931), More Boners (1931), Still More Boners (1931), and Prize Boners for 1932 the last being illustrated by Virginia Huget. [http://books.google.com/books?id=

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 * /www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/2768/ 1912 recording of Be My Little Baby Bumble Bee] at the U.S. Library of Congress

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 * It is an industrial [urban-type settlement], built as the home for the Vuhlehirska thermal power plant.

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April 2014
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 * in northern Hungary who threatened to rape her, she pulled out of the auction. 2 September 20100. [http://www.austriantimes.at/news/Around_the_World/2010-09-02/26490/Miss_Spring_

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 * in northern Hungary who threatened to rape her, she pulled out of the auction. 2 September 20100. [http://www.austriantimes.at/news/Around_the_World/2010-09-02/26490/Miss_Spring_
 * local police in Krasnoyarsk said no laws would be violated.(5 November 2013). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/siberia-virginity-auction-shatuniha-27000_n_4219720.html

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June 2014
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 * major label debut album Seen A Ghost in 1997.Horak, Terry (19 July 1997). [http://books.google.com/books?id=qA4EAAAAMBAJ&amp;pg=PA11&amp;dq=#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false
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Could you check the Top 25 talk page?
Six weirds this week.  Serendi pod ous  18:33, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

???
What was that all about? By the way, I would appreciate you keeping the foul language off my talk page. Thanks. Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 16:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Foul language? What was truly foul was your prod of Notre Dame College (New Hampshire), a completely laughable prod that really made me question your worth as an editor.  I made a neutral comment on your talk page about the how it was a poor prod to make you consider whether you erred, and you simply deleted the comment.  I self-reverted an aggravated comment I left after seeing your behaviour.--Milowent • hasspoken  17:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm stopping the top 25 report
It's too much work for nothing except the occasional complaint. If you want to carry it on, I wish you all the best, but you seemed more eager to drop that snake than I did.  Serendi pod ous  23:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Serendipodous, you deserve major kudos for all your work on this. I prepared reports for this week, but I'm honestly not sure I have your stamina!  I really do think its an important project, but from week to week it is indeed a bit of drudgery to get it done.  You've done the reports for the Signpost for over a year now (since June 2013), and took over sole responsibility for the WP:TOP25 since late February 2013.  That's amazing.  I'll try to do what I can and recruit additional help if possible.  The only thing I'm looking forward to is smacking down any haters.--Milowent • hasspoken  14:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I was a bit terse; it's all down to WikiStress. I've been in some rather nasty battles recently, and I need to step back from editing. Anyway, thanks for pulling through; that was nice of you to do. Serendi pod ous  14:14, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No apologies needed to me, I totally understand. I've had many battles on Wikipedia in the past, and sometimes they have quite annoyed me.--Milowent • hasspoken  14:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Could you elaborate on your edit summary?
Please, when you have your composure. --Ronz (talk) 19:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I have more composure than Beethoven!--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 19:41, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * :) --Ronz (talk) 19:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

AfD
Congratulations for your improvement of You Don't Know What You've Got. I just saw it was kept thanks to your contributions. I could have changed my vote should I had not seen the comments only 2 minutes ago; sorry. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 17:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Why should I has just told me to see here. Nothing further to add except a section link would be very useful in future - as you may have noticed, I am one lazy editor! -- Laun  chba  ller  17:57, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * That's at least the second or third time I've seen you pull something out of the fire in the last week alone, Milowent, please accept my appreciation for your thoughtful and thorough participation at AfD. --j⚛e deckertalk 19:19, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's because Milowent rocks!--<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 19:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * - Aw shucks, thanks guys! My AfD participation has been sporadic in the past year as I've gotten more into writing articles (less chances for me to go on inclusionist tirades), so the appreciation is much appreciated.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  19:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

FYI
I opened an SPI related to Cheong poong bridge‎. While I'm fine with your deprodding, there is something suspicious going on with that article and related articles. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:21, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

More than too close?
I appreciate the response. Could you elaborate so I can get some idea of where you think I should draw the line? --Ronz (talk) 17:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

New Friedman Unit merger discussion
User:Cnilep has reasonably started a merger discussion at Talk:Thomas Friedman/Archives/2014. In doing so he transcribed another user's argument for doing so from the recent AfD (Articles for deletion/Friedman Unit) which seems reasonable enough but I am not comfortable with similarly transcribing your opposition without your permission. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 18:18, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll probably be back at some point around then anyway
so don't fret :)  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  06:58, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

WP:TOP25 should be more neutral
I see that in your comments about Hamas, you said that "[T]he bloodshed causing it" (the word it refering, of course, too Operation Protective Edge); sadly, the people who are complaining about the bloodshed are mostly the same people who truely caused it - by hiding missiles inside UNRWA schools and other civilian structures; by telling residents not to leave areas Israel warns it's going to attack, etc). I would hope that you would try to be more neutral in your explanations about these articles. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The bloodshed of the conflict is contributing to the popularity of the article; I made no comment about what who is blame or what is causing the bloodshed so it is ridiculous to say I wasn't being neutral on that count. It doesn't matter whether Hamas is the reincarnation of Satan dropping infants onto missile dumps to ensure certain death; or whether Israel wants to turn Gaza into a megamall by bulldozing away everything and everyone there.  I made no comments either way.  The conflict and bloodshed of the conflict makes it a popular article.  However, while the numbers are neurral on the Top25, the commentary is commentary and based on the observations of the chart creators.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  03:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014
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 * *Snipes (2001) in the late 1970’s along with future Young Fresh Fellows
 * 278466/scruffy-cat/chart Scruffy the Cat - Chart History], billboard.com, Retrieved 29 August 2014  The first single from the LP, also titled Moons of Jupiter, reached the Billboard

vandals

 * User:EsteFeilx is an obvious vandal, can someone check into him? Also User:Esteban G. Felix 2.  And User:The Moreno Twins.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  20:25, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Are you going to do the Signpost traffic report?
because I'm no all that keen on getting abused again.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  12:54, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, a proposal ... you could do it, but keep it off your watchlist, and I'll deal with any of the crap that comes up? I'm used to doing the latter, but I don't have the time during a normal week to do the former. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


 * i am away from town and my internet is horrible - typing this from my phone. Seren has done the top 25 already, this can easily be truncated to make the top 10, even if author name is unattributed?  --Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  03:19, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I'll keep an eye on it whenever I get hotspots in the coming week! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:02, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * So do you want me to do the top25 again or are you OK?  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  15:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Serendipodous - I'm back to computer land, I just saw now that Andrew did update the 5000 report. Unless you want to do it, I'll plan to get done w/in next 12 hours.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  15:31, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I can very emphatically say that I do not want to do it.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  15:54, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Serendipodous - lol. Looks like Robin Williams related articles will be 5 of the top 10.  Any thoughts on Power Girl and Great Seal bug?--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  16:04, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * New black power girl; as for the redirect, can't find anything immediately. Will need to recheck.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  17:31, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

It seems the readers like you more than me. So maybe you should keep doing this. I do seem to have an unerring talent to alienate people.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  09:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * WHAT?!? That is clearly not true, Ed urged me to keep this up because the Signpost feature is popular.  It only became so because you did it, and your insights are usually more complex than mine.  Its rather unfair that you had to do it all yourself for so long, I would be much more likely to keep it up if you'd like to work out a team arrangement?--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  15:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Try the In use tag
It's a much easier way of telling people that you are updating the report. And it's more noticable. :D Pizza1016 (talk &#124; contribs) 15:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Pizza1016: Thank you! One would think after five years I would remember simple things like this.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  16:14, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Jakotina Revert
As far as I can tell, was an attempt to link this article about a river to an article about the same river under a different article name which doesn't exist. Why did you revert me?--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 10:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, I think I somehow made an unintentional edit on my mobile!--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 11:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, no probs--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 11:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Traffic Report
Less hipster sexism in the Traffic Report would be good. Kaldari (talk) 01:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * dont blame me for the pathetic losers worshipping boobs more than live women via comics. If you didn't understand my defense of women, oh well.   Fuck hipsters,I'm too old for them.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  02:39, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Milowent, I wish you would take some responsibility for your actions here. There's no need to be dismissive towards editors who bring legitimate concerns to your talk page. What you are characterizing as your "defense of women" was insultingly sexist and contributes to an already negative environment for women on Wikipedia. When you used a random picture of breasts to represent Power Girl, that was demeaning towards women. When you wrote that her "ability to fight villains with a large chest is apparently another one of her powers", that was also demeaning, in addition to being false. gobonobo  + c 00:15, 25 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Gobonobo, I am fully responsible for all my edits. I didn't contest the changes made w/in a few hours of the article going live.  I'm not likely to tread into this same minefield again, so you can not worry about that.  The picture was of cleavage, not exposed breasts; I thought little of it, it was one of ten thumbnails and didn't really strike me as provocative, Lord knows the commons is full of much much worse stuff requiring brain bleach to wash out of my head.  Perhaps I am not aware that cleavage is apparently considered provocative in more of the world than I ever thought about.  I've learned from this experience to that extent.  I certainly know not to add photos of women with exposed heads on the Arabic wikipedia for example, though most of the world thinks that quite absurd.  Power Girl is not a well known comic heroine, yet it makes it into the Top 10 most viewed articles of the week on Wikipedia, ahead of major news stories going on around the world?  Its very clear to me why that is happening.  It was not "false" to claim her "ability to fight villains with a large chest is apparently another one of her powers" -- it was obviously commentary not intended to be taken literally.  But I can see and do understand my intent was not completely clear, and some thought I intended it to be sexist.  And since words belong to their readers, its important that I realize that's how some took it.  But I do think that article was in the Top 10 due to "pathetic losers worshiping (comic) boobs more than live women."   Aside from that, in my opinion, the "negative environment for women" on Wikipedia comes primarily from the way editors are treated, by male editors with limited social skills.  I saw that first hand last year when I was one of the editors very involved in opposing the Amanda Filipacchi category problems last year.  Again and again editors were creating yet more "female author" categories, digging in despite the vast outcry against the sexism inherent in the treatment of female biographies it was causing.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  00:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response Milowent. You seem to be missing the point though. The problem isn't that cleavage is provocative, it is that you used an utterly unrelated image of cleavage to illustrate an article about a female superhero. I understand that it was perhaps a misguided attempt at irony, but as Kaldari pointed out, ironic sexism/hipster sexism is not wanted.
 * I wouldn't have brought this up with you if I hadn't noticed an ongoing difference in the way that women are treated in the Traffic Report. Whether it is the implication that traffic is driven by the fantasies of male internet users or referring to twerking as "girls waggling their bottoms", there are recurring themes of sexism and heteronormativity on the Traffic Report that you perpetuate. On August 6 two women made the top 10 list and you made comments in regards to both of them that they were "a likely fantasy of many male internet users, let's be honest." As much as I appreciate the cheeky irreverence of the Traffic Report commentary, too often I come away from the report feeling that women are disrespected and objectified there. I look forward to seeing Traffic Report commentary in the future that treats women with more respect. gobonobo  + c 02:34, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Gobonobo, the image has EVERYTHING to do with power girl. Power Girl is EXPLOITATIVE, and objectifies women using cartoonish exaggerations.  I'm sorry to hear you found women being disrespected in the traffic report, especially so since it has been authored by a female editor [ETA: I was wrong about that.  That editor is male, I really can't recall why I felt otherwise.] for almost all of its existence, aside from a few recent weeks by me.  Yours is the first negative feedback on the "likely fantasy" comment I've heard (I got a few positive comments on that; that week was mine, ETA: hey, that barnstar above was from a female editor for that same report!  Go figure! I'm not about to trot out "my black friend" every time, I just happened to check to see who posted that barnstar.); so I appreciate hearing feedback because I don't know about the negative comments otherwise.  Negative comments (not about sexism as far as I am aware) helped deter the prior lead editor from wanting to do the report, but I don't really mind them, I know yours are intended in good faith.  You can usually find the draft report posted via the signpost newsroom between Wed to Friday sometime, you're welcome to review it before publication.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  02:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

For future reference Milo, I am male, though I find your confusion strangely flattering.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  14:51, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL, I am so sorry. I must have gotten very confused along the way, confusing you with another editor, I suppose.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  15:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

How to find hoaxes
This IP is doing good work finding hoaxes. See User_talk:66.177.64.39 for how he does it.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 13:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Newspapers.com
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Top 25 report
Do you want to alternate? That way we can deflect the flak from each other. Anyhoo, regardless, I've locked down every article on the list (four Reddit threads this week!) except rock music; not sure how to even begin searching for that one.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  09:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It MIGHT have to do with the controversy surrounding Lorde's winning "Best Rock Video" at the VGA's, despite not technically being rock music.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  09:55, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Serendipodous, alternating would be great! Sounds like you a jump on this week already, so take it away. Wow, the Ice Bucket Challenge got quite high numbers!  And the Mona Lisa isn't under copyright, so no cleavage-gate concerns should arise.  The German article on rock music shows no jump, that one looks suspicious to me, it goes from 2000 a day and has remained high.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  13:03, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's your turn. If you're not available, let me know.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  17:53, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I'd appreciate a yes or no, just so I know whether to start on the list or not.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  00:56, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes! I can do it. Sorry, I responded to you by email, perhaps you didn't get it.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  01:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Upcoming Signposts

 * So if you two are switching off, you'll be doing the 9/17 Signpost, right? Rcsprinter will have a time-sensitive interview with WP:Scotland members that will need to be published on the 17th, as the independence referendum is on the 18th. Is that doable? Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ed, yes that is my week and totally doable, thanks for the heads up.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 12:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

On a related note, can either of you come over to 25 report talk page to double check some uncertainties? grok.se seems to be down now, so I'm a bit in the dark.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  08:19, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry but Wikipedia emails for some reason aren't arriving at my new email address. Could we hash things out here or is it too private?  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  13:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem -- I got a note from Tony at the Signpost letting me know they hope to publish early (on time?) this week, late on Wednesday, and was hoping the Traffic Report could be ready by then. I let him know we are switching weeks and this is yours, but that I'd make sure it was ok.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  13:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


 * done!  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  13:40, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * lol, nice work!--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 13:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * , make sure that you've confirmed your new email address in your preferences? Thank you both very much! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Please don't derail
Carol showed me the link to the Wales video, and if he and the WMF are even mildly serious then someone should hold their feet to the fire about following through. There has been far too much tension on that page, so please don't try and stir shit up. You made me look at my sig and tweak it a bit btw.Two kinds of pork Makin'Bacon 05:28, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Listen, we both know you're being a fuckin turd over there. We're big boys, we know how this works.   You've been here under this username for over a year and have never created even one article?  Come on now.  Get the fuck off their page if you're going to keep up this crap, you're clearly intelligent and could contribute more meaningfully to Wikipedia if you wished to do so.  Comment on the GGTF when they contribute outside their group; if they ever promote proposals outside the group, it will require consensus to be adopted anyway.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  05:33, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see them make some plausible proposals. I'm sick of the accusations of mysogeny directed towards me as well.  Frankly I'm sick of you.  Maybe a nights sleep on it will change things.  Good night.Two kinds of pork Makin'Bacon 05:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Good night, fellow editor. The internet will always be wrong.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  05:46, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Women writers Invitation

 * Thanks for the invite, I will check it out. I've seen a number of articles I've created on female authors being tagged by some bot for that project in the past day or so, and I was surprised to see how many I've written.  It wasn't an intentional thing, but I kept finding authors who didn't have articles, and I guess most of them were female.  Hmmmm.  :-).--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  17:33, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Second that and also thanks for starting Back labor. Novickas (talk) 19:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks to me like a personal attack
In my opinion this edit is a personal attack. I am not blocking you, because I think it was in the heat of the moment, but I urge you to redact it.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  21:23, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your exercise of discretion. The discussion is collapsed so I don't want to touch it at this point.  I couldn't find the hilarious diff again where the ANI against him was briefly closed, saying we all know he's impossible to discipline.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  01:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:33, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

WP:BITE
What the hell is this? VQuakr (talk) 04:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll delete it, but something is rotten in Denmark.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 04:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There was a recent documentary released on the subject of that article. I think it is quite plausible that they just saw the documentary, went to Wiki to read more, and found that there was no article on the subject. You really think they are a sleeper created a year ago to create a page on someone who wasn't even famous yet? Thanks for removing the edit, though. You might consider weighing in on the AfD. VQuakr (talk) 04:12, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Maybe you're right. There are accounts which get created for this kind of purpose by people with far too much time on their hands, but there's no way I can know for sure.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  04:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Top 25
lots of questionables this week.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  18:59, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Got the info from Oliver at last! Could you explain what he does? I'd like to thank him in the summary without mentioning him by name.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  18:38, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe he can see (at least) the hourly info and IP source location of hits, the sort of info which is not shared for privacy reasons.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 19:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

BTW, while I'm assembling it, there's something I've been meaning to mention: if you want to track the numbers week to week, look at the views, not the position in the chart, because chart positions can rise while viewing figures fall, and vice versa.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  22:08, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Certainly I know what you're saying. Comments I make about dropping from say #2 to #8 are just a throwback to Billboard reporting style, which has the same problem.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  02:20, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Would you like some help this week? This one will be a monster to sort through.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  15:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure! Any thoughts on exclusions would be helpful -- looks like there will be a ton, and that "last spike" one suggests someone could even be intentionally screwing with us.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 23:02, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Can I help at all with this? :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 16:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Am wrapping up now, no worries.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 17:00, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:32, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Editor Drive
I've seen some talk online about 100s of new editors threatening to join the project and start doing things like create articles. They will start joining today, on and off, over the the next few weeks. Some will leave and some more will come. This threat seems very severe.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 19:29, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh ye of little doubt. The sky is not falling! The sky is not falling!--<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 19:54, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Help me create a Request for Comment asking that Jimmy Wales step down
I want to create a request for comment with some long term members of the Article Rescue Squadron.

This request for comment would argue that the only way to reverse the negative trend of deleting other editors good faith edits would be for Jimmy Wales to step down.

Please e-mail me if you are interested. Walterruss (talk) 08:03, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry
I misinterpreted your comment on my talk page. I jumped to a conclusion based on a flawed reading of your comments caused by my half-dead sense of humour. Sorry for pouncing on you. BethNaught (talk) 17:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries!--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 17:56, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender Gap Task Force opened
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender Gap Task Force. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender Gap Task Force/Evidence. Please add your evidence by October 17, 2014, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender Gap Task Force/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 14:38, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Page views
Do you know why this page says it is #313 in traffic, when that seems to be off by an order of magnitude?-- S Philbrick (Talk)  19:05, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sphil, interesting! After some looking, I have an educated guess.  It appears #313 is a monthly number that hasn't been updated since March 2014, see .  In March 2014 the article got 384,083 views; in Sept 2014 it only got 101,823 views.  If you look at the WP:5000 for the past week, it is only ranked #3134.  That makes more sense.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  19:26, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * April 18 was also an odd day, although some have reported some one-off oddities. The March traffic isn't a single spike. Not a big deal, but it does appear the rankings are not updated monthly.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  22:53, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Azerbaijani places

 * Thanks for starting that AfD on Gasaneri, I presume due to the cool "Ә"s in your name you know your stuff. There are probably more stubs like that for Azerbaijani locations - is there official census information for each rayon that could help us improve our coverage?  Regards.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  13:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello my friend thank you for attention. Yes there are a lot of villages which abolished a lot of years ago, but today all of them in English and Bahasa Wikipedia. I will start to work on them. You also can help me to delete them because I am not an administrator and I do not have permission to delete them. If you are administrator or you have a friend who is administrator help to delete them. There are documents about changing of places villages and municipalities. I think I can find this document. If I send you can delete all extra places?--Nəcməddin Kəbirli (talk) 13:35, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Friend, I am happy to help. If some have been consolidated, we can mention that in the current location article.  I am not an administrator, but I can help "prod" (request deletion) articles that need deletion.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  13:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks my friend. I find some places which were Dzhigli, Izzhor, Karakyz, Kardash, Kazmabudug, Leyti-Kazma, Sukhtakala, Tekeshykhy cancelled. You can help request this places to delete. If I find other places I will write here. I think it is big confusion for newcomers and foreigner who do not anything about Azerbaijan and we must solve this problem.--Nəcməddin Kəbirli (talk) 14:18, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Nəcməddin Kəbirli, did these places use to exist? If so, we may want to explain what happened to them?--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  14:44, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * They were exist bu population of some villages went to another places, such as Sukhtakala and Kazmabuduq. Other was fixed with other villages. And most of this actions happened during Soviet times. It means that they cancelled many years ago You put this source [] to all deleletion requests and there are all districts, municipalities, and villages of Azerbaijan, it is official source. You can find Quba rayon (disrict) and see wich places are extra. Good luck.--Nəcməddin Kəbirli (talk) 06:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

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Comcast
You have em too? Today I just discovered they have been billing me 6 months for equipment I already own. Hopefully one day there will be an article about Comcast losing a class-action lawsuit with "billion" and "fine" in there.Two kinds of pork Makin'Bacon 02:18, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't have them, but the lack of competition makes all these companies terrible, so your comment made me chuckle.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 12:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Missing Article Trophy
You were awarded the WP:WikiProject Medicine/Missing Article Trophy for your article Back labor. Now it is time that you hand it over to whose article Subependymal giant cell astrocytoma deserves to get the trophy. He in turn can hand it over to me (the next claimant) for the article Primary juvenile glaucoma. Your barnstar will remain. No worries about that.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 19:00, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy to pass it on, Diptanshu.D. Am I actually empowered to place it on Gcwang's page, or does someone else do this?--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  19:30, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Traffic
Seeing Wikipedia Signpost/2014-10-15/Traffic report, which says that the WP:5000 now includes mobile views, but it is silent as to whether stats.grok.se includes mobile views now.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:05, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Tony, I have no idea about that, unfortunately.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 12:10, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Bob Shannon AfD
Was this reversion intended? It looked to me like the only error was that this should have been listed at WikiProject Deletion sorting/American football instead of the "other" football. But I wanted to see if there was some other reason I was missing. Best, --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:04, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Arxiloxos, I must have slipped somehow, that was not intended, I have undone.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 03:14, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I think it's time we revise the exclusion criteria
From now on, I think we should just say that any articles with less than 1% or more than 95% mobile are automatically excluded, because to list the exclusions this week would take almost as long as the report.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  11:55, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Holy moly, Seren, I agree! The bots have gone bezerk, look at all those redlinks!  What do you think of Website?  (73% mobile, but any reason for these views?!?).  As to June and Jennifer Gibbons, Taman Shud Case and Joyce Vincent -- must be this buzzfeed piece? 21 Wikipedia Pages That Will Make It Impossible For You To Sleep, probably so, it has 2,662,107 views right now.  Will have to write author blaming him for lack of world sleep.  (nb for myself, but let me know if see you other reddit ones:  Jerry Maren ; [Israel Kamakawiwoʻole]] ).--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  14:25, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!
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Re User talk:Wikiwarrior01 and
Isn't dissing when it's true "son". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwarrior01 (talk • contribs) 07:00, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Please comment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)#Bullpen_catchers Alex (talk) 22:22, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

You rock
I really enjoyed the Traffic Report this week (like I do pretty much every week :) Thanks for doing such a great job at it and bringing a keen eye to popular topics on Wikipedia! Best, Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 03:27, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:40, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about WikiProject Deletion sorting/Nevada
Hello, Milowent,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether it should be deleted. Your comments are welcome.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE9A:860:DD6B:693A:ACF:B874 (talk) 18:48, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for the ribbon. But carol IS free as this little kitten. Yay!

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Jess Greenberg
I hope you like what I've done with this article... :) Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 06:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Scalhotrod, nice work. That dad-camp article has caused some controversy; until a major paper takes on the cleavage issue firsthand that will continue to be an area to monitor.  Cheers.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  13:15, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought about that, but there was a User that was adamant about adding the material. So rather than Edit War over it, I just added it neutrally and sourced it properly. Personally I think the blogger's "observations" we're creepy and not "Dad like" at all. If the guy had wanted to criticize her about something insightful, I would have commented about her song choices. Rock classics or not, they deal with some fairly mature themes. That's why I added the additional note about her age, she's just an adolescent girl that happens to be quite attractive.
 * That said, he's not the only one to comment on her cleavage and at least he did it in a relatively tactful manner. The other sources I have found about Greenberg just blatantly talk about her cleavage and might mention that she sings. I hope she tries out for The X Factor or a similar show. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

30% of Wikipedia traffic are mobile
In your signpost article, you said that "mobile views now account for about 30% of Wikipedia traffic". Where did you obtain this figure? <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 22:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OhanaUnited, the figure was derived from Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-09-17/News_and_notes which reported a figure of 31.6% based on August 2014 data.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 00:28, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 17:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm going on Wikibreak
I have had way too many battles to handle, and I'm beginning to crack. If you need help with the top 25 report, I can tell you that Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and John Lennon are Reddit threads; Dan Bilzerian is due to another police conviction; Annie Jump Cannon is a Google doodle; CM Punk is about his announcement to start MMA; Murder of Joanna Yeates is due to a British TV series; Patrick Stewart is due to an interview he gave at the Chivas Legends Dinner in which he suggested that he might be tempted back into playing Picard; Hemorrhoid and Huntington's disease should be dropped.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  16:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Serendipodous! Sweet sassy molassey!  Could you find it in your heart to still do this week's before any break?  I now see your deleted comment at the Signpost.  Wikipedia is a haven for complainers, those of us who are do-ers just need to do.  Many people love the commentary, indeed just last week someone called your report "one of the best-written entries in this Signpost series" which made me feel quite unloved. haha. I know it can be a drudge but I do think we are building up a historical resource of value.  Of course I'm an editor who studies 100+ year old top-selling book reports in the Bookman so perhaps I'm daft, but I certainly hope not.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  16:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

 * She was an uppity woman, it was a travesty.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 15:12, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Mendiola
Hello Milowent, I send you very best wishes for Christmas and the New Year, too. But I also want to bring up the matter of Mojo Mendiola again, whose entry you deleted this morning arguing that it had been started ten years ago when notability standards were still in flux. Yet, the fact that they were and the fact that they changed is neither the subject's nor the original editor's fault. And it is a principle of civilized and constitutional societies, never to apply new laws and rules retroactively. I'd therefor be grateful if you could rethink your decision and reactivate Mendiola's entry which only got into your special focus because I did what is usually desired: added more information and sources which demonstrated that the subject's notability has been and is growing. Thank you for your kind attentionBudybla23 (talk) 18:01, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Budybla23, I am sorry the article was deleted, I favor an inclusionist viewpoint and don't like to see editor's work deleted. The "law" is not being applied retroactively in that we can't change the past, the article was permitted to exist long beyond what policy permitted, and no doubt other articles like it lurk throughout the project until people find them.  If you can cite to me the three best sources that you think show notability, I will take a close look at them and consider whether a new article could be created that would withstand deletion.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  19:23, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Signpost Traffic report
Hi, will we get a Traffic report for this week? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;"><b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b><sup style="color:#01796F;">✉ 20:14, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, Pine, Serendipodous created the Top 25 earlier this week, so I just did the formatting changes necessary for the Signpost version and submitted it.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 21:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

QUESTION about deletion
What was the nature of the problem here? I think that there might have been some misunderstanding ... Could we "Talk:" about it? Thanks, --Mike Schwartz (talk) 21:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, Mike Schwartz, the nature of the problem was checking my watchlist on a mobile device, where errant rollbacks occasionally emanate as a result, and I am sorry for that. I haven't had time to investigate your suggestions, but I did some work on that article in October 2010 because I thought it in poor shape, and the "emeritus" wording was there then.  It should go, go at it!--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  22:15, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, if I understand your response, it sounds like, it is now OK for me to either [a] make certain changes to the article Daniel Bell, or -- (is this correct?) -- to [b] first, ["start out" by doing this]: reinstate a certain change (a new section) on the "Talk:" page Talk:Daniel Bell. Oops, wait a minute!  I wrote the above before I saw this [edit]. Now, "[b]" has already been done.  (Good!  on to [a])  PS:  Now it makes sense that your reply to me [above] seems to mention [a] but skips even talking about [b].  Thank you.  --Mike Schwartz (talk) 21:46, 23 December 2014 (UTC)