User talk:Mungo Kitsch

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Proposed deletion of Kummitusjuna


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Proposed deletion of Iankaikkinen


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 * @Walter Görlitz: Regarding both the pages Iankaikkinen and Kummitusjuna, I believe that both pages can be deleted or redirected. Yes, they both absolutely fall short of album and notability guidelines, in a way that is hard to rectify for either page. Thanks for bringing these to my attention. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I understand the comment on my talk page now. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:53, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Your essay + postscripts
Agree with the points in your essay regarding civility. There are some nasty, nasty small people in this world who greatly undermine integrity in whatever worlds they inhabit. safloytab Safloytab (talk) 14:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I appreciate your supportive words. If there's anything I can do to help on Wikipedia, you can let me know. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 23:57, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ever (IQ album)


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CptViraj (📧) 03:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * @CptViraj: I appreciate you letting me know. One thing I will say is that I did not move it to the draft space; another user must have. As you may see with my histories of recent created pages such as Anika Nilles, The Firefly (2015 film) and Serpentcult, I did not have them in any draft space before deciding to submit them (I incubated them in my sandbox), and doing so would go against my standard protocol of creating articles. Also, I am fine with your decision to speedy delete the page you brought to my attention, as I had no particular plans for it. Thanks. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 05:32, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. Happy Editing. -- CptViraj (📧) 06:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Danielle Stella for deletion
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Curiosity regarding Alison Haislip article
Note: the following first message was originally posted on User talk:Steam5. The thereafter responses were posted here.

Hi. I was wondering why you have, on a long-term basis, made so many minor tweaks of wording on the Alison Haislip page, such as this, this, this, and this, among many other examples. You have also reverted some of your own edits, as you did here.

I recognize and respect that there may be one or more reasons why you are doing them that I am not privy to. But many of them appear, to me, as test edits, which are not accepted by Wikipedia outside of sandbox spaces or one's own user page(s) (they might be acceptable on draft pages). Many of the edits come off to me as non-essential word tweaks with under 10 pixels of difference, which do not, in any great regard, change what is being stated. Your lack of explanation in edit summaries does not help, either.

Your Haislip edits show up quite often in my watchlist. If you were reverting vandalism or expanding content with references in tow, I would understand. But considering the nature of the edits, I opine that they have become distracting.

And since I may not be the best person to analyze this editing behavior, I hope you would not be offended if I sought outside opinion here. If I do, I will make sure you know what I post where, so that you can fairly weigh in on the matter.

Let me know what your answer is on this page.

All the best,

Mungo Kitsch (talk) 03:52, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Answer to Alison Haislip article (and apology)
Hi, the answer to editing is the correct sentencing and my mistakable edits by undoing for my previous version. Previously, I clean up vandalism from IP adresses into its previous version on some articles. Do not warn me on this and I never make disruptive edits or vandalism. Remember the administrator told me when I was upset "we're all in your computer screens". I will continue read the article before I edit and I sometimes change URL addresses into HTTPS for it's citation sources. I apologize an I will continue as a Wikipedian and I will read the article first before I edit. Today, I will take a 24 hour break while I send you my message to you. I will try to do better than that next time by read the article first before I edit. Thanks for your time. All the best. Steam5 (talk) 01:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you taking the time to respond, as well as for heeding my critique. With that said, I will continue to keep the Alison Haislip page on my watchlist, and will therefore monitor the situation furthermore. (I'm not sure if you know this, but I created the article back in 2008, and still have a special spot for it.) That's all from me, at this time. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 03:49, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

No reason?
"Not every image needs a caption ... relatively few may be genuinely self-explanatory." Please reconsider. --Brogo13 (talk) 04:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * @Brogo13: I appreciate your input. I am not accustomed to seeing pictures without captions, with the exception of album cover images in infoboxes. However, I will not insist on the fact that all should have captions, and I see the argument brought forth by the MoS page you linked. I am more than willing to reconsider on this point, and you can feel free to give me feedback anytime. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 03:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for input regarding bands labeled as NSBM
Thank you for your edits on Drudkh. A lot of these articles have been subject to blanket removals of cited content and I've gotten really frustrated. Would you be willing to give your input on the issue of bands controversially labeled as NSBM? Link is here.--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; See what I have done ) 04:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * @3family6: I appreciate how you have started this conversation on the WikiProject Music page, and have let me know. I am typing up a response currently, but it's taking longer than I expected. I should be able to give the input in 18 to 24 hours from now. Cheers! Mungo Kitsch (talk) 06:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all your input and for working out compromises on this issue. Can you take a look at Khors as well? It looks like the edit dispute is starting up all over again, despite the RfC, and I don't want to edit war. Thanks.--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; See what I have done ) 15:17, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Specifically, this version of the page.--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; See what I have done ) 22:50, 10 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Sure, @3family6. I can definitely look at the Khors page. While I am not overtly familiar with this band specifically, I can come and see what I can do for you and the page. Thanks. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 03:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks!--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; <small style="color:purple">See what I have done ) 14:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, 3family6. I wanted to let you know that I did the one edit to the Khors page, but it was not relevant to the NSBM designation. I have not been hot on the page partially because I have a few real-life distractions, the main one right now being that I am geographically relocating this week. Once that all gets settled, though, I will give the Khors page and band a more fair look in the regard that you requested. Thanks. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 03:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course, take your time!

"23:59" listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * Hello, I forgot to participate in the discussion that you brought to my attention, but I want to let you know that I agree with the consensus that did decide to retarget the redirect. Thanks for your efforts. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 01:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

'Six and Six' album cover
The photo of Robert Johnson that resembles the cover of 'Six and Six' is this one. The composition looks practically identical to me, except for the guitar obviously. But I agree the point has no place in the article and you were right to zap it. --Viennese Waltz 08:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Viennese Waltz: You make a good point. I did come across that picture in my cursory image search, and while they are extremely similar, I was not sure of the encyclopedic value of those statements (unless if echoed, of course by one or more reliable sources).
 * I definitely appreciate your feedback, and I do appreciate that you are watching/monitoring the Six and Six page. My intentions are to contribute to, and put on my watchlist, more Jandek-related pages, because he is a musician that strongly inspires me and my ethos toward music. I like to think that he is more "punk" than most actual punk rockers! Let me know if you need anything Wiki-wise. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 02:43, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of Köld for deletion
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Reply at Talk:Miyuki Ishikawa
I answered your question of 13 years ago at Talk:Miyuki Ishikawa. Cheers. Viator Liber (talk) 05:56, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Emily Goss
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Proposed deletion of Voices in My Head (EP)


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Nomination of Voices in My Head (EP) for deletion
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Did you know something about that big palace like home in thedford
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 * Respectfully, I do not know what you are referencing. If you link the specific building you are talking about, either an internal link to a Wikipedia page or an external link to another website, then maybe we can meet eye-to-eye on something. But at present, I will not assume I know anything about this building.


 * And this is a very random message. I hope you can find whatever you're looking for; and, if you give more specificity, let me know if I can be of any help. Mungo Kitsch   (talk)  02:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Gracias for signing mine
Thanks for signing my guestbook. I also wish you all the best in your endeavours. Happy editing and hope you will stick around Volten <span style="color:lime	">001  <b style="color:red">☎</b> 15:14, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem, same to you. Mungo Kitsch   (talk)  00:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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Chase Iron Eyes
You claim you edited the article to be “neutral” but your edit contains nothing but repulsive and now debunked claims of grooming and abuse made by Iron Eyes and Jumpjng Eagle, and you hid Chase’s own convictions.You are displaying a massive bias, whereas I edited the article to show Tokata’s justified rebuttal of her father’s media extortion scam. You failed to mention the court was a tribal court with no jurisdiction over Ezra Miller, you made it sound like a trial, which it wasn’t. Chase never reported his false claims to any federal authority, so why did you remove my efit stating this fact? You’re trying to give chase immunity from scrutiny, and misinform the public, but wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. I know the people involved in the Ezra Miller tabloid saga, and publishing only Chase’s slander is libellous. RedEyeKav (talk) 12:34, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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