User talk:MusikAnimal/Archive 33

Thanks
I was busy looking for the correct template and you beat me to it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:35, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hehe, I just copied it from an older AfD! Thanks for taking care of that, I was on the fence about doing the same &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:38, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * G4 was actually a tiny bit of a stretch - it was 90% copy and 10% "new" - but combined with the other factors I think deletion was what was in the cards anyway. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:39, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * My thoughts exactly :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:40, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * You can now set text as small or big.
 * Invisible templates have been shown as a puzzle icon. Now, the name of the invisible template is displayed next to the puzzle icon.  A similar feature will display the first part of hidden HTML comments.
 * Categories are displayed at the bottom of each page. If you click on the categories, the dialog for editing categories will open.
 * At many wikis, you can now add maps to pages. Go to the Insert menu and choose the "Maps" item. The Discovery department are adding more features to this area, like geoshapes. You can read more on MediaWiki.org.
 * The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page. In the future, the "" button will say "".  This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems.  More information is available on Meta.
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NOINDEX
The NOINDEX that was rolled out  on  Thursday is not  working. Could someone please address this. Thanks.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:09, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

File extensions
Hi MusikAnimal, I posted earlier at EFR about a double-extension filter before we discussed a potential blacklist entry instead. Was wondering if you would be willing to look into the edit request here? Thanks, — Andy W. ( talk ) 02:35, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've replied there endorsing the request. I know how to add to the blacklist, but it's not my line of work so would prefer to let another admin handle it. There's a very slight chance someone might oppose it since the uploads may be made in good-faith, but I think the accompanying friendly message should alleviate that concern. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:03, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

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Recent changes
 * There is a new newsletter from the Collaboration team at the Wikimedia Foundation. It will have more details about for example Flow and notifications. You can read the first issue.

Problems
 * Some users got a warning about Wikipedia's security certificate last week. This was because of a problem GlobalSign had. This has now been fixed. Only a small number of users got the warning.
 * Editors couldn't edit semi-protected pages in the Wikipedia app for Android. This has now been fixed in the beta version.

Changes this week
 * There will be no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * The Editing Department are working on a new wikitext editor. It will have tools that are in the visual editor but not in the wikitext editor today. You can read more about this. This is an early plan and things can change. The old wikitext editor will still exist.

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Bot
Your bot is making a false claim - I have made more than 65 edits by a long shot. MPD (Talk to me!) 14:50, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Musik's bot reports the number of mainspace edits you've made, which is 65. This site shows a pie chart with what areas your edits were made to. Kind regards -- samtar talk or stalk 14:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Locked out of my account after name change
I saw where you were talking to other users about someone getting locked out of their account after having their username changed. I had my account name changed from user:sbrianhicks to "AtTheNecropolis," and my password no longer works. I talked to another administrator, and he wasn't able to help much. Do you know of anything I can do? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.195.131.129 (talk) 01:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * That user was locked out of their old account, unrelated to the rename. Renaming of your account shouldn't lock you out, though. Are you sure you've tried the same password you used on your original account? I can't promise I can help you, unfortunately :( The process to regain control of an account isn't simple. What happened recently was a rare sequence of events that made it possible. Sorry! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:24, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've used every password I can remember ever using with that account. I'm pretty sure the browser even saved my old account name and password, and that I just had to change the name when logging in.  I have no idea what happened.  I'll probably just use a new account, but after using the old one for seven years, I thought I'd give saving it one last shot.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.196.130.157 (talk) 04:06, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Separate one election page to two articles as usual
Hi, administrator MusikAnimal, I separated the article Taiwan general election, 2016 to Taiwan presidential election, 2016 and Taiwan legislative election, 2016 as you can see the common practices in the past in. I noticed your account user:MusikBot fixed the protection setting to the two new pages. Wish you can extend the protection for the original page to the new ones and I wonder if you can move the edit history to both pages? Thanks! --Wildcursive (talk) 11:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit filter question
Regarding Edit filter/Requested/Archive 8, the filter does not seem to be preventing the sort of edits that it's supposed to catch, as several more of the user's sockpuppets have been identified making exactly the same edits (see Sockpuppet investigations/Filipz123). Is the filter turned on? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:08, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The filter is only targeting the IP ranges, not accounts. Including any unconfirmed user will increase the likelihood of false positives, so we'll have to first put it into log-only mode and monitor it for a while. I'll keep you updated &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:22, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

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Problems
 * The abuse filters had a problem and caught too many edits. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from October 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from October 26. It will be on all wikis from October 27 (calendar).
 * The "Search" text in the search box will show the name of the project. For example, on Wikipedia it will say "Search Wikipedia".
 * About a dozen wikis now have numerical sorting in categories. If your wiki wants numerical sorting in categories you can ask for it.
 * Some wikis that want numerical sorting in categories can also ask to use UCA to sort categories. The biggest difference is that characters with diacritics will be sorted together. For example, for most languages Ä will be sorted with A instead of at the end of the alphabet. This is not true for languages that have Ä as a character in their alphabet. Wikis that already use UCA are listed on Meta. Languages that can use UCA are listed on MediaWiki.org. You can test it.

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Congratulations!!!!
Congratulations to our new CU!!!  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:02, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to to the funtionaries Musik! — xaosflux  Talk 04:18, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:14, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

OMG, my favorite NYC techie is now a CU. That considerably widens the areas in which I can pester you. Congratulations!--Bbb23 (talk) 12:50, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Congratulations MA! You deserve it. Patient Zerotalk 15:31, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Just chiming in to add my congrats. This just adds to your value as an awesome Wikipedian. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:00, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I gave you a congratulations on IRC, but incase you didn't get it.. Well.. Here's a haiku

You'll receive CheckUser soon Hooray!

That haiku took a long time to think of. Dat GuyTalkContribs 17:03, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Congratulations MusikAnimal. I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to comment on the pages of the other candidates but I would have expressed my support for your candidacy. Mkdw talk 19:07, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and for the record I would have supported you as well! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:43, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey! We're CheckUsers! How did that happen? Congratulations! :-) Katietalk 19:44, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Haha, right back at ya Katie! And as our new oversighter! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Congratulations MA, You thoroughly deserve it :), Happy editing, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:59, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! You're an excellent admin, and will be a great checkuser. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 15:54, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Belated congrats to you and best of luck! RickinBaltimore (talk) 17:31, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, I can bother you too now with CU requests? Fantastic! (Congratulations!) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:09, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

New page reviewers
Hi MusikAnimal, the RfC on new pages patrol is closed in favor of this new group, (T149019). Don't know when this rolls out, but just an FYI for MusikBot. :) — Andy W. ( talk ) 00:12, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * All set! Thank you &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:24, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

NPP - Last call for work group comments on stage 1
Hi ,

The future of NPP and AfC:
 * To take full advantage of the WMF developer time that has been allocated to this project, we must now quickly submit the short list of our priorities before the end of October, otherwise we may lose the attention of the WMF.


 * If you have not already done so, please visit the page at Suggested Improvements and select your personal choice of 10 features (excluding the ones the devs are already doing) and list them in your order of priority  at  Priorities.

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Bot Issue
Hello MusikAnimal. Sorry, no time for a haiku from my little snug Hungarian hotel. Anyways, see. I don't want to disable the task as it is only one edit, but the user definitely didn't have his account for one day. Might be worth checking out. Cheers, --Dat GuyTalkContribs 18:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've run into this issue before, thanks for explaining it! Always wondered why Wikimedia Commons had an issue reading my account age...Garchy (talk) 19:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, nothing to worry about. In fact, you should be proud of it! Do you recall what year you actually registered? Just curious, because my first account has a registration date of June 2006, before you made your first edit. Anyway, the bug with MusikBot is fixed! Thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:28, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * (tps) It's in the first log entry :) -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You found the log quicker than I could - looks like it was 30 September 2005, which would make sense based on where I was in school at that time! I didn't start editing (slowly at first) until around 2007. Garchy (talk) 15:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Re: Twinkle feature request
I never remembered to respond here, but your latest conceptualization is basically exactly what I'm looking for. It would immensely help with my workflow at TfD. Please let me know whenever you (or someone else) makes this happen. Thanks! ~ Rob 13 Talk 23:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Followup on gawker-labs copyright violation issue
Hi MusikAnimal, I was just reviewing my talk page and I realized that I have not yet finished the follow-up on the gawker-labs copyright violation issue that we had a month or so ago. I believe that I may have left a link in the now deleted talk page discussion to a page where it appeared that they had violated Wikipedia copyright policy. This now deleted discussion was at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hillary_Clinton_brain_damage_rumor#Questioned_deletion. I'm trying to verify that gawker-labs has been taken care of properly by legal. Is there any chance you could go back to that now deleted talk page and either give me the link to the gawker-labs page in question, or else verify for yoursel that gawker-labs,has now taken down their page, and let me know? Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 17:25, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The link shows a message that the application is currently down for maintenance. Being a Ruby developer, I can tell you that is the default Ruby on Rails message for when an application goes offline. That means it probably isn't actually down for "maintenance", rather the app died and no one has bother to revive it, perhaps intentionally. Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks kindly for the update. Perhaps legal took care of it.  I think you're probably correct.  They were crawled approximately 8 times by archive.org, before they were reported to legal and always were up.  Now they're down, apparently for the long term.  Scott P. (talk) 22:04, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

MoreMenus
Your MoreMenus script gives the following in my console:  -- TerraCodes  (talk to me) 04:24, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's on the to-dos, just haven't gotten around to it yet. The warnings are non-critical and may be ignored &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:10, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * This should be . I still see the warning in the console, so I'm assuming it's a different gadget &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  07:10, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-44
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Now you can include Commons video films with subtitles in your wiki language. Before you could see translated videos on file page at Commons only.
 * Search now has an updated preference tab to configure the search completion suggester.
 * The visual editor is now available on all wikis using only one language script.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 1st. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 2nd. It will be on all wikis from November 3rd (calendar).
 * Now you can use autocomplete for page names in "" field when editing templates.
 * Special:NewPages can now be filtered by page size.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg New MediaWiki deployments will be now based on MediaWiki 1.29.

Miscellaneous
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Technical Collaboration Guideline is available for community review. Any feedback welcome, in any language.

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NPR's
Did you finish processing the PERM backlog? I did all the grandfathers and activated your bot config page. — xaosflux  Talk 23:37, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep! We should be all set :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the permission to my account :D --Cameron11598 (Talk) 03:59, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

PERM
I have had your PERM helper script installed on my user:Kudpung/vector.js page for several months but I have never been able to get it to work. Am I missing something? Is there something incompatible with Firefox on MacOS? The instructions you provide do not appear to say where the buttons are or what to look for. One of what I thought was a button for it tried to install autopatrolled on user:Example. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * When you are editing a PERM subpage such as this one it should show up in the sidebar before the "new pages" header. See https://i.imgur.com/7jpfEQx.png - NQ (talk)  17:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * There is also User:MusikAnimal/userRightsManager.js which “Allows you to assign the permission, mark the discussion as done with optional closing remarks, and issue the corresponding user rights template on the user's talk page.” After installing the script by adding  to your vector.js, clicking on the “assign permissions” link on a PERM page will open up a much better interface to manage user rights rather than having to go to Special:UserRights and then notifying the user manually. - NQ  (talk)  18:25, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks NQ! I think Kudpung probably meant userRightsManager. Documentation for that script is long overdue :) But I want to improve it and make it work outside PERM first. Also, if a situation arises where you don't want to use the script, you can right-click on "assign permissions" then "Open in a new tab", and it will bypass the script. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:31, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Kudpung does not have the userRightsManager script installed yet. Btw you should "really" advertise your awesome scripts, I count only 7 admins using the rights manager atm. As an aside, I couldn't figure out how or where userRightsManager.js worked at first. Finally took a peek at the script and had to force display the 'sysop-show' class. - NQ (talk)  18:47, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone. I now have it working. It's actually quite awesome, but it does need to be better advertised and the documentation needs to be improved - computer programmers tend to forget that software users are not software designers - we don't need to know what's under the hood (bonnet?) ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I do have documentation for responseHelper, but I suppose it could use a screenshot &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, the scripts are advertised at WP:ADMINTOOLS. I don't think they're in User scripts but that page links to the admin tools page &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:18, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The confusion here is between User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper and User:MusikAnimal/userRightsManager.js. Also, only new admins will read WP:ADMINTOOLS I haven't been near that  page for 7 years! We  shoud introduce a philosophy that all admins regularly get a newsletter about all new updates to policies, guidelines, and software, etc. that affects them  - it's been on my to do list for years but I can't do everything.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I like the idea of an admin newsletter! That would have covered things like extended confirmed protection, and when new user groups like New Page Reviewer are introduced. That is a lot of work and we'd need to define a whole process for it. The "portal" for the newsletter I think would live in WP:ADMINGUIDE with all the other admin stuff, and we could show the most recent edition of the newsletter right there on the home page. We'd also post the newsletter at WP:AN. Just thinking aloud. I also don't have time for this, but for the record I put together WP:ADMINGUIDE (used to be New admin school), and ADMINTOOLS is one of the new things. So it wasn't there 7 years ago :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * See? I didn't even know that New Admin School had been deprecated and replaced. Thanks for doing that. For the newsletter, it's not as complicated as that. Someone just needs to create the mass message sender page from the list of current admins (and update it at each new promotion), and just a small team (me and someone else?) could stay on the ball and write and send a pretty newsletter as and when required. It should include notes about recent ArbCom closures, new polices/guidelines (and deprecations), especially new CSD criteria etc), current RfC about stuff affecting admins, current RfA, new promotions to admin (and 'crat), and desysopings. I'll start the newsletter project page in a few moments. I think it's important in the light of a couple of recent serious blunders made (in GF, however) by recent new admins. We can't always rely on Signpost for reporting new things, besides which, Signpost is now in difficulty itself and is now only being published every 2 weeksKudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:56, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * A mass message list appears to have been recently created and is regularly maintained by . Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Administrators/Message list isn't "perfect" but should work for most purposes - it was originally made for sending "infrequent" updates (has only been used to send out the ECProtection policy changes so far). "Official" policy announcements, etc should always be posted to WP:AN as well.  I suggest that notices include a "discuss this" link that goes somewhere. —  xaosflux  Talk 23:18, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup
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Proposal to add SBL to ABH
Hi Musik, there aren't many of us abuse-filter-helpers, but I've proposed adding SBL-log reading - your comments at meta:Talk:Abuse_filter_helpers are welcome. — xaosflux  Talk 15:42, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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Advice
Hello, I was hoping you could provide your viewpoint: I've been having editing conflicts with an editor - in an attempt to get a third opinion I accidentally posted to ANI (my intention was not admin intervention but other editors viewpoints). This ANI was closed as "ANI not the correct method" - however, this editor posted the ANI notice to the Talk page of the project anyway, even though it is not relevant - I feel as the editor is only doing this with bad faith in mind. What can be done? Is it possible for me to remove this link as it is irrelevant and I feel the editor is only using it to make me look bad? Your advice as an admin and experienced user is appreciated - P.S. Hope you're having a great time in Bermuda! - Diff  Garchy (talk) 13:15, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * After having some time to cool down I've decided to just let it go - still hope you're having a great time! Garchy (talk) 23:16, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer
Hi. By creating Category:Wikipedia new page reviewers yuappear to have inadvertantly informed 1,400 former patrollers including inactive, blocked, banned users, and trolls, that they now have the new New Page Reviewer right. As you are away for the next few days days. I will summarily delete this cat without a CfD, because I now need to start over with according the rights to the grandfathred group. You will need to create a bot to remove what this cat has done. We all make mistakes, but I'm the one who seems to be doing most of the unpaid leg work and I'm beginning to need some sleep and I also have to go into hospital tomorrow for an operation on my other eye and I'll be out of actin for several days. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken. Perhaps you have this confused with Category:Wikipedian new page patrollers? The category I created was empty, and is populated by Template:User wikipedia/New page reviewer. Anyone you see there has added the userbox or manually added themselves to the category, since the new user group was deployed. I do not know what you mean in saying the former patrollers were "notified". Categories do not by themselves do anything that would require clean up. In all kindness, I'd appreciate if you first consult me before deleting pages I create, and moreover, not assume there was an error. Also, you are volunteer and no one is making you do any leg work. Take a break if needed! The wiki will be just fine. Now, I need to get back to my break :) Wishing you a speedy recovery from your operation &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:31, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Yu obviously restored that cat before readng what I posted above. You've effectively notified around 900 of the 1400 former, now non-patrollers, trolls, and blocked and banned users that they are New age Reviewers. The cat would have been needed but not until the grandfathered rights and applicatons at PERM have been processed. PLease empty the cat and run a bot to remove the userboxes it created. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:26, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, no edit conflict! Please read my reply. There are 26 users in the category, and they manually added the userbox or themselves to the category (not my doing). This naming and connection with userbox is consistent with the way we're doing it for other permissions. Categories do not create userboxes nor do they notify anyone... I'm confused what has led you to believe this. It is the other way around. The userboxes add the user to the category &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:34, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I should make it clear that this category has a direct conenction to the userbox and topicon. Just because some one is in this category does not mean they actually have the right. The same is true with Category:Wikipedia rollbackers, etc. Please don't confuse the category as something official. It's just a category... &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

MusikAnimal I don't know if this might be a bug/glitch, but when I marked Talk:Cynthia Barnett as patrolled, I get access to "New Pages feed" for the regular and Page Curation version. Is this normal even after New Page Reviewer right was introduced? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 03:10, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This is because they haven't pushed out the patch that will take away the "patroller" right from the autoconfirmed and extended confirmed user groups yet. See here for more info. Yoshi24517 Chat  Online 04:19, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-45
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Victoria Coleman is the new Chief technology officer for the Wikimedia Foundation.
 * First release candidate for MediaWiki 1.28 is now available.
 * Octicons-tools.svg for MediaWiki branches and extensions switched from targeting a specific branch to using.
 * Section numbers in Table of Contents boxes will use grey to improve readability.

Changes this week
 * The 2016 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 7 November.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 8th. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 9th. It will be on all wikis from November 10th (calendar).
 * Special:ActiveUsers will allow users groups selection.

Meetings
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 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are Image Thumbnail API and allow SVG files uploaded on MediaWiki to have XHTML namespaces. The meeting will be on 9 November at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * RevisionSlider will be enabled by default on all beta wikis, on testwiki, testwiki2, mediawikiwiki and de.wikipedia.org.
 * Upcoming holidays will impact deployments. The schedule has been published.

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A message from Kreymann
Hi, curious why my edits to The Merry Widow were deleted? Did I break a rule?

Kreymann (talk) 03:42, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No, my revert was a mistake, and I immediately undid it. Sorry about that! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:30, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! Kreymann (talk) 18:27, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

William Howard Taft
Did you mean to remove the semi-protection instead the indef move-protection? © <font color="#4B0082">Tb <font color="#6082B6">hotch <font color="#555555"> ™ (en-2.5). 02:14, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Whoops... I wish I had caught that sooner! In general we always keep TFA open, I only semi'd it originally not realizing it was TFA. So yes I messed up there... :( TFA period is over now, anyway. Thanks for letting me know! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:20, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Response helper at UAA
Wish I was in Bermuda. Hope you are having a good time, this can obviously wait till you're back.

I was curious if there was any way to integrate response helper with the block buttons at UAA. What I mean is, an admin would select the type of block they wanted to issue from the existing choices, and the block would be made with the proper log entry and the user's talk page would be tagged with the appropriate lock notice. I know Twinkle can do this, but not directly from the UAA interface. (I did ask over at WT:TWINKLE as well but I notice a lot of questions there don't get replied to and the last time I asked for a new feature they basically told me my idea was dumb, which is funny because we now have the "notify" feature at PERM, whic is exactly what I had asked them for.) Beeblebrox (talk) 03:24, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey! Sorry for the late reply. This can be done, and I had given it thought before. Basically, anywhere there's a block button, it would open up the Twinkle module. It's a cool idea but might not be welcomed by some. Maybe I could make default-on, so that people know about it, and have an option to permanently disable it in case they find it annoying. What do you think? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:46, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me, Beeblebrox (talk) 03:06, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

PC-protection for Wildfire
This month, just one IP vandalized the page. Is this enough to justify extension? --George Ho (talk) 04:08, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

A message from 88.172.133.187
The change I made to Ines de Bourgoin was based on the extensive (and abundantly referenced) discussion in the page about her husband; could have propagated some of those, sure, but they are to books I don't have access to and as an academic I frown upon second hand references ;-)

88.172.133.187 (talk) 08:38, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

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Ijon
Hi MusikAnimal. This account was global-locked for a time earlier. Please see the block log and the talk page message immediately above yours. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:12, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Dah, thank you! Sorry, I was not aware &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:15, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
Hello,

Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Stephen Tharp
Hello! I wish you a wonderful weekend, and a speedy recovery or long rejoice from the election on Tuesday. First of all, I just want to thank you for all the work you do here on Wikipedia. It is truly appreciated.

Is there any possibility that you could turn Draft:Stephen Tharp, which I created, into a fully-fledged Stephen Tharp? Someone else created Stephen Tharp numerous times to much chagrin of another editor and administrator who deleted it, eventually to the point where he allowed only administrators to create the page. (Excuse my rudimentary explanation. A better one might be written on Draft talk:Stephen Tharp.) I asked the original administrator to take a look about half a year ago, and he has never gotten back, so I have gone on to the next person who seems to know a thing or two about music.

Let me know if you can do this. I am just an editor hoping to spread classical music throughout the internet... Thank you very much!

Damibaru (talk) 04:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I would say this is very much ready for the mainspace. The older versions were either promotional or outright copyright violations. Yours is wonderfully crafted and adheres to all inclusion criteria, as far as I can tell. Excellent work, ! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  06:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * PS – I see you are in the NYC region as I am. You should join us at a few meetups! See Meetup/NYC for more info, and consider joining WikiProject New York City in our efforts to improve related subjects across the encyclopedia. Regards &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  06:30, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your record settingly-swift response. Yes, I wish I could make it to some meetups. Alas, my schedule is very busy, and I have an hour and a half of a too-expensive bus ride. I consider myself part of the greater-NYC area geographically, but certainly not in terms of time it takes to get there... :-( One day for sure! Thank you very much! Damibaru (talk) 00:23, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * My pleasure! I look forward to improving it even more :) Regards, &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Any chance we could increase the max number to 12,500? That would allow me to calculate monthly viewership. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 20:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I was just talking to Nuria on the Analytics team... as far as the API goes there's basically nothing stopping how many pages we process. We could remove the limit altogether. The issue is the calculations happen on the client-side, so if you ran a query for say, 50,000 pages, it could consume a lot of your computer's memory! So I'm going to look into ways to intelligently determine what the browser can handle. E.g. on mobile the limit will be lower, etc. For now I will up to 20,000 as I think that's mostly safe to do :) I'll let you know when it's deployed. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:26, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Perfect thanks :-) Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 20:32, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Done! The cap has been increased to 20,000. There's no performance safeguards in place yet... so if your computer goes a little slow while you're doing running a query, you know why :) Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:46, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Bot Question
Greetings, your bot is mistaken about this particular correction. Can I just revert it, or will it keep repeating the "fix"? Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 18:06, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll double check the logic, but I'm inclined to not blame the bot on this one... Once things started to get weird, the bot correctly stopped processing the page becuase it couldn't parse it . Then you made this edit which fixed the parsing issue but for obvious reasons still confused the bot. I see you made another edit right afterward that apparently didn't cause an edit conflict with the bot... That's the part I'm not sure about. It should handle edit conflicts. Anyway, I can see you were trying to repair the mess  made here. Valenciano, I know you didn't mean to, but how on earth did that happen? Substitution I don't think would have done this, did you copy the template source directly? Either way it should all be fixed now :) &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  19:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what happened with that one. When I originally tried, it came up like this
 * Yeah, this wasn't really a "hey, stop your bot" message so much as asking your advice on fixing the situation. Glad to see it's taken care of now. VQuakr (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

User:

 * test Valenciano (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * test Valenciano (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I then copied another user's template and that looked fine, but obviously wasn't. Kudpung then informed me of it, I went back and fixed it (or so I thought) to this version which looked fine. I can only apologise if this has created a mess :( Valenciano (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you did something different... the entire source of the template was included . But no worries... we've got it fixed. Next time use the "Add request" button! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I did. That's what I'm saying - I originally used the add request, previewed it, and it produced the User:]] mess above, hence I copied another user's request. Valenciano (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, so you added your username where it said . That actually happens a lot, the REVISIONUSER should not be changed as it automatically puts in your username. I'll try to tweak the template to make this more clear. Best &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  20:04, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's it. It's probably the first time I'd been at PERM. As I say, sorry for the mess. Valenciano (talk) 20:06, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-46
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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 16. It will be on all wikis from November 17 (calendar).
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 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 15 November at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Something's up with MusikBot
Your bot archived my request for the New Page Patroller right, when no admin had checked it out and I added it a couple seconds before that. Just wanted to let you know. here's the diff. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 19:29, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Weird... looking into it! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:33, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This should be fixed now :) I guess when I did some refactoring a while back I broke the handling of edit conflicts. Whoops! Surprised it's taken this long to surface (though the above report from 3 days ago is the same issue, I believe) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:06, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Pageview bugs
If you use Redirect Views in List view on an all lowercase article title, then that article title is not included as the target in the list.--Penbat (talk) 14:30, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

In Pageviews Analysis and Redirect Views, "Clear" is only displayed after two article names have been entered but not one.--Penbat (talk) 18:41, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

In Pageviews Analysis and Redirect Views, you have to do Control V to paste into the article name area, you cannot right click Paste.--Penbat (talk) 18:50, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed the first two bugs, the third I cannot reproduce. What is shown is a normal input field, so I'm led to believe the issue is with your browser and not the code. What browser/operating system are you using? Thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:23, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Third bug only happens if you already have one article name in the field and you want to paste another.--Penbat (talk) 19:35, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. That may or may not be fixable... but I can look into it. Thanks for the report &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:50, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Bug 1 still does not seem to work but if u refresh the browser tab link it is then Ok with lowercase initial character converted to uppercase. I am using Firefox.--Penbat (talk) 20:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC) Looks like if u enter all lower case article name u get a prompt list with initial cap version that works OK if you select it. However if u enter an all lowercase redirect to an article you dont get any prompt list.--Penbat (talk) 20:28, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You may need to adjust your search method if you want to search for a redirect. That's available in the Settings panel. However Redirect Views does not provide this option because it only works for target pages – the page that has redirects to it. There may be redirects that have their own redirects (double redirects), but those should be fixed, and here on enwiki at least a bot does it for you. Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:51, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Just done a bit more testing. It never works initially if you paste in an all lowercase article title or redirect name but if u refresh the link on the browser tab it then converts to initial cap and works OK. Autocomplete is irrelevant if you paste in.--Penbat (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

New page review
I see there are problems with new page reviewing. I have tried to assist but I no longer see "Mark as reviewed" on my screen. Can you help?--Ipigott (talk) 10:51, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The patroller right was removed from the autoconfirmed group, and put in a new group called "new page reviewers". You can apply at WP:PERM/NPR &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:50, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding so quickly. Well that explains why things are piling up. Really strange I wasn't informed? Why has this right been removed? Perhaps you should those responsible that this is causing problems. Probably many more editors are in the same situation as I am. I really don't feel like reapplying under these circumstances. Do you know if any other rights been withdrawn?--Ipigott (talk) 17:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This change was broadly advertised, but it seems not well enough. Those who patrolled N amount of pages (not sure what the number is) were mass messaged. You seem to have quite a few, so I'm not sure why you weren't messaged. More info is at New pages patrol/Reviewers and The future of NPP and AfC. No other relevant rights have been changed lately &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:56, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you more than qualify, so I've granted you the right. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:59, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sorting this out. It still seems pretty strange to me that rights can be withdrawn without notification. I'll now be able to get back to helping to reduce the backlog.--Ipigott (talk) 08:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

List of articles by user
Sorry to bother you again but this seems to be down today.--Ipigott (talk) 15:30, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

The Challenge Series
The Challenge Series is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are invited to participate.


 * Use   to invite others using this template.
 * Sent to users at Northamerica1000/Mailing list using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC).