User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 67

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected
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Template:Happy New Year elves
Hi Northamerica1000, I've come across this template Template:Happy New Year elves however I noticed on the talkpage it states "This template was designed by User:Cullen328." however it was technically designed by me - Cullen had basically removed my message and replaced it with a DYK however I've had the layout since 2014 so is there any chance we can both be credited as the DYK work etc was his however the background and border was my work entirely so I'd like to get some recognition here :), As you added/created it I thought it was best to ask instead of just wading in,

Anyway hope all is well :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 02:58, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey Dave: Just add-in what you feel is right to say on the talk page. Pinging here for their review. I looked into it all a bit, but I'd rather keep it simple on my end at this time. For starters, comparing the links you provided above is giving me a headache, and then I have to go back in time and figure it all out. I can do this, but I'd rather you do it. This saves me time and allows me time to be lazy. If you need me to do the research, then let me know. For what it's worth, I copy/pasted stuff to create this template, with copy attribution provided in edit summaries along the way. At any rate, get back to me about these ideas, pronto. Cheers, and a happy holiday season, North America1000 11:40, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Northamerica1000, Haha no worries we're all allowed to be lazy :), I'm pretty much having a lazy day here and irl so all's cool :), Okie dokie I'll go ahead then I was perhaps afraid you or Cullen disagreeing hence why I'm here, I've already done the research - They only used it last year but anyway I'll go ahead and make the changes :), Thanks and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours too, Here have a mince pie or 5 on me :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 12:11, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I have no problem with giving Davey2010 the credit because I simply modified it and did not design it. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  16:17, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply ; pinging in case they didn't see your reply here. Happy holidaze, North America1000 14:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Whoops sorry nope hadn't seen the reply - Thanks Cullen, Mary Kristmas, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * & : Have a jerry Christmas and a happy New Year. North America1000 15:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

DRV
Hi, I just noticed that an AFD that you closed is now at DRV (Deletion review), but I don't see any notification in your talk page history, so I thought I'd drop you a note. --Randykitty (talk) 08:23, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. North America1000 14:03, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I have commented at the discussion. North America1000 18:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-50
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American Vision Windows
Hey, I came to talk about the advertising tag at the top of the American Vision Windows page. Earlier the page was up for deletion based on the issue which you closed as no consensus was found. You discussed that promotional language be avoided, so I'm trying to improve the article as much as I can and hopefully move it up on the quality scale. I would really appreciate it if you could give me some pointers on how to improve the article and avoid quasi-promotional language. And when those needs have been met, at what point could the tag be removed? Best wishes, SWAloha ⚜ 11:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello : To keep the article aligned with Wikipedia's WP:NOTPROMO policy:
 * Check out Manual of Style/Words to watch: avoid peacock language, weasel words, editorializing, etc.
 * The article reads a bit like a press release, which some may consider as having a promotional tone. For starters, I recommend significantly pruning down the intricate detail of the company's year-by-year revenues in the Corporate affairs and culture section. Toning down intricate detail that is likely of little interest to most users is typically a good practice. Check out WP:UNDUE for more general information.
 * If you're affiliated with the company, you should add Template:Connected contributor to the article talk page. If you're a paid editor, you should add Template:Connected contributor (paid) to the article talk page. See Conflict of interest and Paid-contribution disclosure for more information if any of this pertains to you.
 * The essay Writing better articles may provide more pointers that can help out.
 * – North America1000 01:37, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I can see about the revenue. In what way could the tone be changed to avoid sounding that way I may ask? But aside from that I can assure you I am not a payed contributor, I'm honestly doing this because I like it. SWAloha ⚜ 10:10, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I would simply omit most of the revenue information, but not all of it, leaving the most current figures in place. North America1000 15:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I removed most of the early revenue information and left it to the last three years. I also removed weasel words and replaced them with exactly where my sources came from such as the academic journals. SWAloha ⚜ 03:26, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Removed some of what I could see as excessive information while still retaining information that makes it fluent. Please do tell if any other changes should be made. SWAloha ⚜ 02:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a bit of a unique company, so upon consideration, I removed the intricate detail template I added earlier. Some detail is a good thing, such as content about its founding and general overview information, it being a Christian-run company, how the company diversified after an economic downturn in the home improvement industry, and its culture relative to being Christian-based and the company's philanthropy. Maybe the edits you performed will be enough to satisfy others (e.g. concerns at the deletion discussion). North America1000 10:45, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I can definately see how some people would see how the company's background would make the company quite different compared to other company articles on Wikipedia. I think that the edits so far have really improved the article - especially now that I'm comparing it to other short articles with good ratings. I'd think it should do well, and if it does, maybe it could be moved to a C or B class. SWAloha ⚜ 03:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I have changed the article class from Start-class to C-class (diff). It could be close to B-class, but I haven't researched the topic enough to make this assessment at this time. North America1000 03:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd say what the article essentially needs is some minor copyediting for consistency. Other than that, the article is almost complete. SWAloha <span class="nowrap" title="This is not a clickable button; it illustrates the button one should find." style="padding:.2em .6em; border:1px solid; border-color:#AAA #555 #555 #AAA; border-radius: 3px; background-color: #F2F2F2; background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0);  ">⚜ 21:19, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

The Challenge Series
The Challenge Series is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are invited to participate. North America1000 07:58, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Use   to invite others using this template.

Time to talk

 * Hi : Interesting views. I like the WikiProject banners, because they hook people up with relevant areas to collaborate. Sure, some projects are inactive, but others are not. WP:TALKLEAD is what it is, and there has been some consensus about the order of the content for talk pages. Personally, I prefer old AfD templates, old prod notice templates, etc. to be positioned below the project banners, but others prefer it to be above them (see this talk page discussion for more information). As you state, this is a bit minute in overall importance. At any rate, I'm a fan of the friendly search suggestions template; it provides a convenient and functional means to find relevant sources about topics. Thanks for sharing your opinions, and feel free to communicate here anytime. Also, enjoy that dinner, sounds pretty comprehensive. No dessert though, eh? North America1000 19:08, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's just the main course. There's some lentil soup to start and then some Tragana black cherries in kirsch with ice cream afterwards.  Must get back to the kitchen! Andrew D. (talk) 19:19, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The cherry dish sounds phenomenal on its own. Then, along with ice cream, the flavor combination comes across as purely delicious. I'd invite myself over, but I'm a continent away. North America1000 20:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The cherries are sold in big jars as a special item at Christmas time and I try to stock up in the reductions after Christmas Day. They are sold by the grocer I favour – Waitrose – but I suppose you'd have trouble getting them in the USA.  Maybe we could pioneer a Secret Santa scheme for the food and drink project in which we get each other a delicacy from our part of the world?  I'd quite like some buckwheat honey ever since I worked on that topic. Andrew D. (talk) 22:57, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Checking out the first page of a search, cherries in kirsch are available in the U.S. as an imported item. Bourbon-marinated cherries, which are nice, are around in the U.S.: link. I like the idea of a gift exchange, but I'd have to think it over; I'm very shy about revealing personal details online, at least for now. However, I'd guess that you could find U.S.-produced buckwheat honey on Amazon.com, although the shipping charges may be atrocious. North America1000 02:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Raisin cake
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Neapolitan
We have Neapolitan pizza, Neapolitan ice cream and a type of Coconut ice that is neapolitan (Brach's). I'm wondering if there are other Americanized foods with this moniker. I'm thinking it would be good if we had 5 sourced foods, two more than I listed, for an article (not a list) on how Americans want to neapolitan-ize food, and I do think this is limited to us Yanks. I think cake would qualify (I at least see ghits for it), not sure what else. Of course, I'm not here much due to work, so when I have an idea that concerns food (and usually requires some researching skills) I drop it off here. ;) Just an interesting idea for an article that might cover the uniquely American desire to eat foods in black, white and red stripes. Maybe some history on why Americans use that term. See also: Smörgåsbord.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 01:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi : Check out the foods below. North America1000 02:54, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Neapolitan cake:, ,
 * Neapolitan cupcake:
 * Neapolitan cheesecake: ,
 * Neapolitan cookie:
 * Neapolitan Oreo:
 * Neapolitan Jell-O:, ,


 * I had a feeling. I think it would be a good article if you can find some sources on why we call it that, where it came from.  It is obviously common and uniquely American. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 00:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There may be something there. Hey, in case you haven't seen it, see also Neapolitan cuisine. Can't forget that one! North America1000 13:24, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be a contrast, as I'm sure that isn't where it originally came from. Just like acoustic guitars have two kinds of cutaways: rounded (Venetian) or sharp (Florentine), yet they didn't originate from Venice or Florence.  That's the $64,000 question: where did it originate from?  That is what makes it an article and not a list.  I bet there is conflicting data on that. Regardless, I think the topic and the answers that will come from it are definitely encyclopedia material. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 00:00, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi : The Neapolitan ice cream article provides some background about this particular product relative to Naples and Italy; see excerpts below. North America1000 05:06, 11 December 2016 (UTC) "Neapolitan ice cream was named in the late 19th century as a reflection of its presumed origins in the cuisine of the Italian city of Naples, and the many Neapolitan immigrants who brought their expertise in frozen desserts with them to the United States. Spumoni was introduced to the United States in the 1870s as Neapolitan-style ice cream. Early recipes used a variety of flavors; however, the number of three molded together was a common denominator, to resemble the Italian flag (cf. insalata tricolore)." "'Eighteenth century... confectioners' shops [were] very often run by Italians. Consequently ice creams were often called 'Italian ice creams' or 'Neapolitan ice creams' throughout the nineteenth century, and the purveying of such confections became associated with Italian immigrants.'"

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
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Merry Christmas and happy new year. (:

cyɾʋs ɴɵtɵ3at BULAGA!!! 08:50, December 14, 2016


 * Thanks for the holiday cheer. North America1000 08:51, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi : Thanks for the spinning star and for the input. Happy holidays, North America1000 12:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Can you believe the holidays are almost here?

 * Hi : Thanks for the holiday cheer, North America1000 12:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! (thought I'd return the favour)
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message


 * Thanks for the holiday cheer! North America1000 16:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
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Evad37 &#91;talk] is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas6}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
 * Thanks, and have a cheerful holiday season and happy New Year. North America1000 00:45, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
very much for the hpliday wishes, but ih ave to kepe my page size from exploding. I didm't mean to be rude or inappreciative.  DGG ( talk ) 08:43, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi : Thanks, and hope you have an enjoyable holiday season and New Year. Cheers, North America1000 18:00, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Quviahugvik
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 * Adapted from Season's Greetings


 * Hello : Wow, I never put together where you reside at. That seems like a unique lifestyle, living way up there in the Arctic. I find that interesting, for various reasons (e.g. lifestyle compared to areas with milder climates, food and product logistics and distribution, relatively low populations, etc.) North America1000 18:10, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It is a different world I suppose. It's not for everybody and this time of year with the darkness and the cold can be very difficult for some people. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 06:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * As a side note, I'd guess you have heard of full spectrum lighting. North America1000 19:06, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. I'm not sure if anybody uses it or if it works. The family, friends and getting out of the house works though I don't recall ever being bothered. The problem is seen more often among people who are new, a few months, and don't have the support of family and friends. It's worse for a married couple where one partner has no job and doesn't get out and cabin fever sets in. A walk to the store and post office where you meet and talk helps, even at -40. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 01:03, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the article link in re lighting. So, what kind of fish do people catch around there? Gotta be some good fishing there to be had, I would guess. North America1000 18:23, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Usualy Arctic char and lake trout. I've seen the odd flatfish (don't know the type) but they are only evver seen in nets and never on a rod and reel. Fishing is good here and the Inuinnaqtun name, Iqaluktuuttiaq, means good/fair fishing place. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 18:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Raisin cake
Hi, I see you're hard at work on the sourcing. Here's a really good encyclopedia entry that resolves all the Biblical sources and translations. Best, Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi : Thanks for the source, which I have added to the article. I also provided a brief reply at the DYK nomination. North America1000 17:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Merry

 * Hi: : Thanks for the holiday cheer, the Christmas tree, and the candy cane! North America1000 19:05, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for correcting my silly mistakes in the name of the nomination templates that I reviewed for various articles. I'll try to do better in future! Yoninah (talk) 23:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Not really errors, just taking some efforts to simplify the main DYK nominations page, by omitting the unnecessary "Template:Did you know nominations" prefix repeated over and over again in every nomination on the main page for the "Reviewed" parameter. This makes the overall page simpler to read, in my opinion. North America1000 00:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Too bad you can't find a script to do that. Yoninah (talk) 00:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It only takes me seconds to do for each one. My main goal is to try to make the main nominations page more user-friendly, if possible. By making it easier for users, participants and prep builders to read and parse through it. The unnecessary wordiness of...
 * Template:Did you know nominations
 * Template:Did you know nominations
 * Template:Did you know nominations
 * Template:Did you know nominations
 * Template:Did you know nominations
 * ...throughout the page for every QPQ review makes it more complex than necessary, imo. I think it helps out a bit. North America1000 00:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, enjoy! Yoninah (talk) 00:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Question about edits to nomination pages
Hi North America, I am wondering why you are making edits like:
 * Adding a collapse box to an approved nomination – this adds an extra template to the T:TDYK page and makes a promoter open the box to check the details of the review. Also makes an editor checking a QPQ review open the box.  I don't se the advantage of collapses like this.
 * These collapse boxes – makes me open boxes to check as I finalise the review, some issues have been raised multiple times without be addresses, adds extra templates to the T:TDYK, etc.
 * Changing the format of the link to the QPQ review – this does no harm but I also don't see any benefit to making this change. Another example, and another, and another and  and another and another (these last four are on nominations ready for promotion, so the reason for which the link are provided has already been fulfilled).

The collapse boxes irk me because they add to the template load on T:TDYK and I don't see the benefit. The QPQ link edits strike me as pointless. I'm wondering what your reasoning is for these edits. Thanks. EdChem (talk) 23:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * My idea was to make a few efforts to shorten the very lengthy Template talk:Did you know page. Long discussions that have been resolved serve to make the nominations page unnecessarily long and more difficult to read and parse through, particularly for prep builders.


 * Similarly, having the entire "Template:Did you know nominations" prefix present on every nomination also adds to unnecessary clutter on the page, making it more complex than it needs to be, with repetition of unnecessary data over and over again. Feel free to revert if you'd like. Just trying to make the page more organized. North America1000 23:20, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Also, forgot to mention, the page is so long that newer nominations at the end of the page are not even being transcluded. North America1000 23:22, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * North America, for your information and as I understand it, the problem of the non-transcluded templates is not about the page length (which is actually longer by a few characters after collapsing); the later nominations aren't being transcluded because there are too many templates on T:TDYK. Every time you add a collapse box, you add two more templates (I think, one for the top of the box and one for the bottom), so while I appreciate your intention, the addition of more templates is counter-productive.  Also, once a nomination is promoted, all of its text no longer appears at T:TDYK, so the time when the collapse is page-shortening is only brief, from tick to promotion.  The shortening of the QPQ review links is harmless and if you want to do it for aesthetic reasons, I see no harm, though I would guess your time could be used more productively.   just to check, am I correct in my understanding of the template issue?  I don't want to be offering inaccurate advice.  Thanks.  EdChem (talk) 00:08, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Aah, regarding the transclusion matter, there's more information at Wikipedia talk:Did you know § Transclusions on nomination page, suggested solution. I still see some merit in sparingly using the collapse templates, which are transcluded, for very long discussions, in efforts to reduce the long length of the main nominations page. However, this has to be carefully weighed against how the page is affected per Template limits. Since 1) you have objected above, and 2) because some nominations at the end of the page are not being transcluded, I have reverted my additions of the collapse template to the The Global Dilemma: Guns or Butter and Y Sap mine DYK nomination pages (diff, diff). North America1000 00:31, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I wasn't going to bother reverting as it isn't that important.  I have used collapse boxes on occasions (like the Benjamin Marconi shooting nomination), so I do see the utility at times.  I certainly am not any sort of expert in templates, more like a novice, really, so I could easily have misunderstood.  Hopefully the new page structures will help.  :)  EdChem (talk) 09:04, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays

 * Hi Thanks for the holiday cheer, and enjoy an egg nog! North America1000 00:23, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message


 * Hi and : Thanks for the Christmas and holiday cheer. Enjoy some egg nog, snow if you have it in your areas, conspicuous consumption of food and drink, and the like. North America1000 15:19, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Hello : Yuletide greetings, and watch out for the Grinch! North America1000 08:51, 22 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Haha I'll shove mince pies through his door ... that'd shut him up lol, Oh wow that's amazing!, Perhaps the graffiti artist prefers the Grinch over Santa/Xmas ... who knows!, Anyway thanks for your wishes and I hope you have a great xmas!, – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 11:08, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Happy holidays. A sidenote: in the U.S., there's a lot of boxcar graffiti, and they roll throughout the country. Waiting at a railway crossing while a train goes by sometimes provides a primer on contemporary graffiti art from all around the country, in fast motion, with multiple boxcars painted. Bah humbug to those filthy vandals. Or, happy holidays; is it art? North America1000 17:04, 22 December 2016 (UTC)



Merry Christmas!
Thanks for your Seasons' Greetings - Merry Christmas to you too!

And yes, we are all enjoying the summer holidays.

Whiteghost.ink (talk)


 * Hi : Thanks for the greetings and have a warm holiday season. It's pretty cold in many areas of the U.S. right now. North America1000 08:44, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi : Thanks for the tech holiday cheer, and here's to a great 2017! North America1000 08:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

 * Thanks, and The Unknown Comic also wishes you happy holidays! (Actually, I don't know him.) North America1000 08:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! Northamerica1000

 * Hello 13: Yuletide greetings. Nice image: it looks like a new planet forming, but it says "Peace", so perhaps it's an incomplete, horizontally-convoluted peace symbol? Either way, thanks for the holiday cheer. North America1000 17:27, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hubble produces some interesting images. Pariedolia helps to interpret them. {:<{)>  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 13: Was the word "peace" there in space too? (Nah, photoshopped.) North America1000 18:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Could be.  A picture is worth a thousand words!  And here we had irrefutable evidence.  Just like the phantom hands in the pictures with Stalin.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
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Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 20:52, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello : Thanks for the cheer. So, did you drop the bass guitar, or the fish, or is it in reference to this? North America1000 01:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
<div style="; float: left; margin-top: 3px; background-color: #FC9; border: 1px solid #8888aa; padding: 10px; width: 425px; clear: both;"> <div style="; border-style:solid; border-color:#4682B4; background-color:#900020; border-width:5px; text-align:left; vertical-align;top; padding:18px;" class="plainlinks"> "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,   I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."  Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)  CAPTAIN RAJU ( ✉ ) is wishing you a  Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

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Season's greetings
Hi, many thanks for the card, and a Merry Christmas to you. Best, SarahSV (talk) 01:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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BOZ (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

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I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings". :) BOZ (talk) 01:36, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:46, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas 2016
<div style="; float: left; margin-top: 3px; background-color: #FC9; border: 1px solid #8888aa; padding: 10px; width: 425px; clear: both;"> <div style="; border-style:solid; border-color:#4682B4; background-color:#900020; border-width:5px; text-align:left; vertical-align;top; padding:18px;" class="plainlinks"> "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,   I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."  Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)  Tito Dutta (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

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Merry Christmas!
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Thanks!
Hello : Thanks to you all for the holiday cheer, and hope you all have a great New Year! North America1000 23:12, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Best Wishes
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'''I wish you the best this holiday season.

May the new year bring you nearer to your dreams.

BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:29, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks, and the same to you. I like some of those unique awards on your user page (dripping faucet barnstar, thumbs up award). Neat. North America1000 00:26, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome and thank you. The unique awards are created by User:Carptrash. The dripping faucet began a discussion about men aging (and other things dripping). Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I like that user's username too (Carptrash). How do users come up with these names? North America1000 00:37, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Mine came from my niece & nephew's reactions when I pointed out historical inaccuracies in a YouTube video. They didn't call me that, but it seemed to be what they were thinking. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I started out with registered editing using the name Unitedstates1000, but decided to change it to one that's more generalized. North America1000 00:46, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * How continental of you. Do you have hemispheric aspirations? == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:52, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Just a geography fan. North America1000 00:56, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

The number and variety of your edits is impressive. I tend to glom on a single subject and beat it to death. Still, working on Wikipedia is oddly satisfying. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 12:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * My edit count is a bit misleading, because I have performed a lot of discussion relistings (e.g. AfD, MfD) and deletion sorting at AfD. Performing one discussion relisting at AfD creates three separate edits, and performing a single deletion sort creates two. I've considered ways to reduce my edit count in these areas, but there's no real workaround when using automated scripts, which saves lots of time. It can get boring looking at my revision history seeing all those automated edits. I've considered setting up a separate account to perform automated tasks, but I may not at this time; keeping it simple may be best. Otherwise, I have a fairly diverse editing range: creating articles, although I've been a bit lazy about this for the last few months, gnomish cleanup edits (e.g. fixing formatting errors, fixing bare urls, grammar, and the like), closing discussions, and other stuff. Something we have in common, per your "glomming on a single subject": I used to focus a lot on list articles, (expansion, adding descriptions, images and sources) but haven't been doing so as much lately. Overall, I may not be contributing as much in 2017. North America1000 20:49, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Proposed Nestle Bear Brand to more languages
I have seen to be proposed this article Nestlé Bear Brand to make more than 50 languages to make an encyclopedic article, and will back my deleted Bear Brand article from some languages.

Note: it proposed to be 50

Current languages

 * Afrikaans
 * Arabic
 * Bulgarian
 * Cebuano
 * Esperanto
 * Hindi
 * Italian
 * Javanese
 * Kapampangan
 * Swahili
 * Lao
 * Macedonian
 * Malagasy
 * Malayalam
 * Malay
 * Newari
 * Norwegian Bokmal
 * Khmer
 * Portuguese
 * Romanian
 * Sinhala
 * Simple English
 * Telugu
 * Thai
 * Urdu
 * Vietnamese
 * Waray

Future languages

 * Afrikaans
 * Arabic
 * Armenian
 * Azerbaijani
 * Bengali
 * Bulgarian
 * Catalan
 * Cebuano
 * Czech
 * Danish
 * German
 * Dutch
 * Esperanto
 * Spanish
 * Persian
 * Finnish
 * French
 * Gujarati
 * Hindi
 * Hungarian
 * Indonesian
 * Italian
 * Japanese
 * Javanese
 * Kapampangan
 * Korean
 * Swahili
 * Lao
 * Latvian
 * Lithuanian
 * Macedonian
 * Malagasy
 * Malayalam
 * Malay
 * Burmese
 * Nepali
 * Newari
 * Norwegian Bokmal
 * Khmer
 * Polish
 * Portuguese
 * Romanian
 * Russian
 * Serbian
 * Sinhala
 * Simple English
 * Slovak
 * Slovenian
 * Swedish
 * Tagalog
 * Tamil
 * Telugu
 * Thai
 * Turkish
 * Urdu
 * Ukrainian
 * Uzbek
 * Vietnamese
 * Waray
 * Chinese

Thank you! -- cyɾʋs ɴɵtɵ3at BULAGA!!! 01:14, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Petrodollar recycling
I added a needed reference (for DYK) and managed to screw up the wording on the Chrysler Building caption in the gallery. Please take a look. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:58, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Never mind. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:19, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi 7&6=thirteen: Thanks for letting me know about the fix. I was going to get around to checking this out, but you have saved me from the effort of doing so! North America1000 22:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Time is money, and you have donated enough (metaphorically and usefully) to this project. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:24, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the Week seeking nominations (and a new facilitator)
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The list of nominees is running short, and so new nominations are needed for consideration. Have you come across someone in your editing circle who deserves a pat on the back for improving article prose regularly, making it easier to understand? Or perhaps someone has stepped in to mediate a contentious dispute, and did an excellent job. Do you know someone who hasn't received many accolades and is deserving of greater renown? Is there an editor who does lots of little tasks well, such as cleaning up citations?

Please help us thank editors who display sustained patterns of excellence, working tirelessly in the background out of the spotlight, by submitting your nomination for Editor of the Week today!

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