User talk:Onikiri

How to
As i said in my other message. To edit the character square used on the Saint Seiya articles you type in the search window: Template: Saint Seiya Characters ¨ Click this --Refuteku 21:37, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Stop erasing names buddy. They have every right to be on that list. They will recure in future films. Danny7177 (talk) 00:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

You gotta let Margot Robbie and Jared Leto and Chris Pine be on the list. Please. Joker will be in Suicide Squad 2, Joker vs Harley Quinn and Gotham City Sirens as is Harley Quinn. Steve Trevor had a cameo in BvS and he appeared in WW, and he will appear in future films. Come on you gotta be lenient. This is a free country. Danny7177 (talk) 21:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

It's not up to us to do that. Wikipedia is not a fan page. We have not official confirmation they are returning. Once that happens, then they can be left in the article. Anyway, as it has been mentioned before, there's no need to be list them all. Jared Leto can stay as he is the only one who, vaguely, has in some way confirmed he will return. The others, until we have confirmation. Onikiri (talk) 21:13, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi again
As i said in my other message. To edit the character square used on the Saint Seiya articles you type in the search window: Template: Saint Seiya Characters And if you want to find out the reason some characters where removed, you can look in the discussion of the List of Characters in Saint Seiya article. :)

And then, there was that small question again. If you have found that file about Masami Kurumada stopping the Tenkai Hen project. ^^ --Refuteku 20:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Saint Seiya
Hi there, i just wanted to know were you got the info about Toei changing Masami's script for the Saint Seiya Tenkai Hen movie? Refuteku

Wow, thanks for the info! I'm gonna spread this on the English talking websites now. Oh and if you ever get that link again i would be glad to see it. :D

Btw, you referred to a Pegasus Saint from the mythological times on Pegasus Seiya. I just wanted to make it clear that Masami Kurumada changed that Saint to Tenma. ^^ --Refuteku 10:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Tenma
In the prologue to Next Dimension Hades say a follow up to the line "i remember that face from the mythological times". He says "In the era of mythology? No, it was in one of my past lives..."

Most people would see this as Kurumada changed his mind, and chose the Pegasus Saint that hur Hades to be Tenma. As this would make it easier and more exciting for the Next Dimension plot. --Refuteku 10:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well seeing as the Lost Canvas has diverted from the Saint Seiya story too much already since it's first publication, i'd say it didn't matter so much. Still i'm very surpised the you liked the Pegasus Saint so much. =)

Specters
I saw that you removed alot of the Specters Stars info, which i added back again. Why did you remove the info? Also you changed Celestial to Divine, they are two different words. Plus the other star are called "Terrestrial", therefore "Celestial". --Refuteku 10:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Though i see you did not understand my reason for putting the information about the different stars in their articles. The 108 Evil Stars originally comes from the Water Margin story, and thus i thought the viewer should have a slight understanding of them. --Refuteku 19:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand and agree with you about the Divine/Celestial naming, so i will go with Divine. =)

btw, you did not answer on the second reply on Tenma i made.
 * You can leave the refining to me, but for the pictures you should just look at how other people have done with their pictures. =)

Asterion
I knew someone was gonna ask, anyhow it seems you have not gotten your hands on the Deluxe Version of the manga that was released last year. Many images that where half is now whole. You can look at the image here  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Refuteku (talk • contribs) 06:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Tenkai Hen
Hi there again :) I'm just curious if you where able to find the file about Kurumada's opinions about the Tenkai Hen movie. --Refuteku 19:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Saint Seiya Characters
The box you made on every characters page is rather unnecessary. If you want to edit the template you just type "Template:Saint Seiya Characters" in the search field :)

Though if you look at the discussion on the Saint Seiya Characters article you will see that we came to an agreement to not use every character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Refuteku (talk • contribs) 10:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Reverting without explanation
Hi Onikiri,

Please don't ever revert another user's edits without providing a clear explanation, either in the edit summary or (preferably) on the article's discussion page. If you don't take the time to explain your actions, you're more likely to be reverted.

I've restored User:NeilEvans's edit to Ulysses 31 — if you don't agree with him, discuss it here.

Regards, Sideshow Bob Roberts 01:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2007
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Hi there again :)
Since some people on wikipedia just desperately want to shorten some of the Saint Seiya character articles. I thought maybe you would like to have the character bios you've written on the only english talking Saint Seiya fansite and forum?

www.saintseiyafan.com

plus i took the liverty to delete some of the unnecesary stuff you had here, but you can revert them back of course :) --Refuteku (talk) 11:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Plot
First of all, I havent put plot tag in the Pegasus Seiya article because the plot overview is short. Second, the article of a character athena has more story than development. I have edit that tag in the gold saints articles because of the same thing. Check GA articles and you will see how is the plot in those articles and you see that the development section (backgorund, outline, etc.) is bigger than the plot I have been working in the Lost Canvas article and deleted plot details that dont support the development. I wont edit any tag until we finish the talk. About Athena, I have tried to edit it many times but it was reverted without explanations.Tintor2 (talk) 03:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, it seems you are never going to answer me and delete all the tags just saying that I have never worked there.Tintor2 (talk) 13:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, my point is not about the creator of the articles, my point is the length of the plot overview that is longer than the character development. The plot section should only tell the main events not like the one of aries mu that explains the fights. If you dont mind I will reduce it and if the article looks short we can merge the Episode G section of characters to the gold saints. See you.Tintor2 (talk) 15:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I prefer English since I am still learning and Im going to have some important tests. Apart from that do you know any english website that sells saint seiya toys to add info to reception? Once I heard about a gold (real gold) myth cloth of seiya but I dont remember the website. See you.Tintor2 (talk) 22:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

I remember that in the news they even said the weight of the toy and I need official sites that sell these toys not fans ones to edit in the article(like Viz Media).Tintor2 (talk) 22:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

Hyouga
Please stop adding that "Hyouga is more proper." Wikipedia does not use that Romanization system. Read up on WP:MOS-JA. More specifically, the "Body" section. "For transliterations from kanji and hiragana, long o and u are written with macrons as ō and ū respectively." おう is ō, not ou.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Reincarnations in The Lost Canvas
Hi, there. Only Tenma(and Sasha, of course) are confirmed incarnations of the characters in the original manga. While it's very likely the others are incarnations, too, it's unconfirmed and only fan-speculation.Sirtao (talk) 14:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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Some questions
Do you know a more reliable source containing the conception information of Pegasus Seiya? It would better to use that. Also, this may be an idiot question, but is it cosmo or cosmos? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It would be better to add the reference in Template:Cite book style to add ISBN, year and page number (fansites like caballerosdelzodiaco.net is not a reliable source). Regards.--Tintor2 (talk) 17:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of minor Spectres
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Saint Seiya clean-up
See this discussion.--Tintor2 (talk) 01:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Onikiri I need help with something I think could help. Could you add a production section to Saint Seiya in which it is explained how Kurumada created the series? See this one I created as an example. Of course it needs to be sourced and the book or interview (reliable source) needs to have isbn or publisher. If not tell me all the data of the book and I ll turn the ref into citebook.

Also, the (1999) Kappa Magazine, number 80 (in Japanese), could you tell me the publisher or isbn to make more complete? Cheers^_^--Tintor2 (talk) 17:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

New Saint Seiya Wiki
Hi there! We at www.saintseiyafan.com are planning to add a Saint Seiya wiki to our site and i would very much like it if you could come there ^_^ --Refuteku (talk) 10:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Here it is, but please try to have some references when adding info okies? --Refuteku (talk) 11:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Chupacabra
Please stop adding usourced material to this article, it should be noted that per WP:TRIVIA that collections of micellaneous information are discoraged, that section is not supposed to be a list of fictional appearances. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  00:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Saint Seiya merges
Please note that wikipedia is not a fansite, only the notable characters from the series and with relevance in the story can be mentioned. Please see that the characters I redirected have no importance in the anime/manga. Also, more characters will also need to be merged. The fact that a character can have an article just because its canon does not have sense and sounds like discrimination (no offense please). Regards.--Tintor2 (talk) 14:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Oro

 * Oro has insufficient real world notability for his own article and Oro (Street Fighter) has been a redirect to Street Fighter III for some time. If you think it merits its own article, deletion review is the way. JuJube (talk) 23:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

December 2008
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Hiten translation
I think "Soaring Sky" and "Sky Soaring" are both acceptable translations of Hiten (飛天), although "Soaring Sky" is a bit more literal. Jonny2x4 (talk) 16:44, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Orochi
The kanji used for "Orochi" have nothing to do with the pronunciation of the word. Or please explain how exactly the second kanji ended up being pronounced "rochi", here, according to you. I'd love to hear that. Just like I'd love for you to go and find me examples of "Orochi" being pronounced/spelled with a long "o" sound.

Please check your facts and spare me the "do you know Japanese, dude?". Yes, I do, and apparently better than you, I'm afraid.

(incidentally, regarding the Gōki article, Capcom also uses "kobushi" from time to time... they're not that consistent for that one either) Erigu (talk) 22:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

NExt Dimension
Hi there!

I just wanted to ask you if you are any sure that Izo and OX are actually seeing a vision of Saori/Athena. Wouldn't it be better to wait for some action that confirms it? Because nothing from the chapter says they are seeing a vision. --Refuteku (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but the thing is that the Crateris Cloth is inside it's box... so how can they get a vision from it?--Refuteku (talk) 16:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Fuuma no Kojirou
There was a large discussion on the talk page concerning the use of macrons. You effectively ignored that conversation. Particularly when given names are involved (Ryouta Murai spells his name in that fashion, instead of "Ryota Murai" or "Ryōta Murai").— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 21:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas characters edit war
See here. Erigu (talk) 13:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Your edits are being discussed at WP:ANI
Thread here.

You have been edit-warring at List of Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas characters. It appears that you have also been editing that article anonymously, and performed reverts with the IP accounts that, had they been from your main account, would have resulted in an automatic WP:3RR block. This is unacceptable - intentional or not - and continuing to game the system will result in this account being blocked. Furthermore, you rarely use article talk-pages. These are provided to enable discussion with other editors, and occasional comments in edit summaries are inadequate as a substitute. I would strongly encourage you to participate in discussing your edits rather than edit-warring (WP:BRD might be useful guidance here). EyeSerene talk 13:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Next Dimension chapter 20 date
heya, where did the date come from?

some spanish people is editing the date on the ND article a lot, so i just wanted to hear it from you sicne you wrote it first :) --Refuteku (talk) 10:44, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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 * OK, I just look this,... apparently they are infringing on us and not vice-versa Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 07:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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Arles/Ares
I don't mean to be a nag over something as little as this, but I figure it's better to talk rather than edit and counter-edit the article. The fact that the god's name is spelled in a certain way has very little to do with how the anime Pope's name should be romanized. (I'm pretty sure the anime people never said the god Ares was involved anyway.) The thing is: アーレス is Āresu in romaji, which can be romanized as Ares, Ales, Ahres or anything else along those lines. To write Arles, you'd have to spell it as Āruresu (or alternatively without the macron on the a) to account for that extra r. In kana, that would be アールレス or アルレス. It's not unheard of for different names in kana to have the same romanization (or for equal names to produce different romanizations), so you can add a note to that entry saying that the god's name is spelled differently, but Arles is incorrect.

Again, I don't know if an official romanization for that name was ever presented. Arles could be a result of "Engrish"... Cyn starchaser (talk) 21:29, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. I'm still new here on wikipedia so I'm not familiar with those past decisions. I'm not completely comfortable using a name that's almost certainly wrong, but it's been in use for a long time now so it's not such a big deal that it would warrant deletion. I insisted because the Episode G (which I know is not canon and should have no bearing on the Saint Seiya articles) character list makes a mention of Saga being referred to as Ares in the anime, but I'll just tweak that instead. Cyn starchaser (talk) 14:36, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

SF characters
I did say, "On a separate note" in the edit summary, meaning that it was unrelated to your edit. There was no need to be all snarky.  TheStickMan  [✆Talk] 13:47, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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List of Saint Seiya characters: merges/splits
Since you're one of the main contributors to this article, I was wondering if you knew if there were plans to merge the rest of the protagonists into the big list? It seems strange that everyone but Hyoga should have their own article when he has no less protagonism than the others, so either all should be merged (with the possible exception of Seiya) or none, I think. I'd also like to let you know that I've started a new section on the article's talk page to continue discussing ways to trim down the length of the article. Cyn starchaser (talk)  13:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I asked you in July if the Saint Seiya character articles were to be merged and you said that yes, they were, and that it was a good thing to do so to avoid the useless info presently on those pages. Did something happen in the meanwhile? Cyn starchaser (talk)  11:32, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

The ones to be merged were the secondary characters, not the protagonists. The list is already too long to be adding more merged characters. Even creating a list for the Bronze Saints wont do any good as they are the protagonists and their articles shouldnt be merged. Someone merged Cygnus a long time ago, but it wasnt going to be done. Although it can be done, I think that preserving the articles of the protagonists unmerged is the right way to go.Onikiri (talk) 18:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I think the merge should be done and there are several good reasons to do it. Now that the list has been split into several articles, it can handle the added length of the main character infos. Also, most of the articles on the protagonists are full of issues, including that of doubtful notability which could have them deleted one day (maintenance tags have been there for years to prove it). Third, Hyoga. For the sake of consistency, and to avoid letting across the view that he is less than the other protagonists to the reader unfamiliar with the series, we cannot have his article merged and the rest unmerged. All this has to be fixed somehow, if not by merging, then in some other way. And I agree that creating a list for Bronze Saints is not the way to go.

Another thing I would like to ask you is what is the logic of keeping a brief description of Seiya on the list but none for the others? Wikipedia requires that when you have a section that only contains a redirect to another article, there be a summary there of the info on that other article. Cyn starchaser (talk)  08:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Seiya is the main character. The description is there for those non familiar with the manga or anime. But it can be deleted, as his article still exists. Cygnus for example, was never going to be merged, but someone simply ignored that. They can be merged, but as theyre the protagonists, I dont think it would be a good idea.Onikiri (talk) 22:35, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Exactly, we agree - those descriptions are necessary. Then why do you keep reverting them when I add them? Cyn starchaser (talk)  14:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Because they still have their own articles. As protagonists, they shouldnt be merged. There was a time when even Tenshuusei Deadly Beetle Stand had his own article. Or Even Golem Rock, and these characters appear in two pages at most. Most characters didnt need their own article, but the protagonists do. Anyway, you can go to the Saint list and add their description there, but you shouldnt merge their articles. Onikiri (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Superman edits
As per your edit here, I wanted to ask if Superman explicitly states what you are citing - to whit, that "and Booster Gold, who after an initial icy relationship with the Man of Steel, grew to respect him". If that is your observation of the story, then we cannot use it. If someone reliable reviewed the story and said that, then that review would be what we need to cite, not the primary source of the comic itself.

Something else: your next edit, wherein you elaborate on how Superman pops up in films. It seems a little more evaluative - "in reference to the many troubles caused by his partner Robin". I thought I'd address this with you forst. You aren't altogether wrong in eitehr instance, but this is an encyclopedia, and we cannot cite your evaluations, Onikiri, Maybe you could find some sources that make those evaluations. Those we can keep. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 03:11, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

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Saint Seiya Omega
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Hello,

I don't understand why my news about Saint Seiya Omega was deleted. You said news coming from forums is the worst. But, my news comes from official site, not forum.

The forum, SaintSeiyaPedia, has just brought that information to us.

Regards.

P.-S. : sorry for my English, I'm French.

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Saint Seiya Omega character list
Please note that I am editing the page to be properly in line with the formatting of all other anime pages on Wikipedia. This includes not having the Japanese and English names on two separate lines, not bolding things that are not important, and properly including the Japanese forms of the names as per the reliable sources.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 08:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Hepburn romanization states that "n'n" is not used anymore. There is no instance of a word having a sokuon before an N sound. The only time "n'" is used is if it's ンア, ンイ, ンウ, ンエ, ンオ, ンヤ, ンユ, or ンヨ. ンナ, ンニ, ンヌ, ンネ, ンノ are nna, nni, nnu, nne, nno. So do not use "In'nen"— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 20:07, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Many changes implemented by you are unnecessary, so, some reverting will be made in the few days.Onikiri (talk) 03:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * What changes are you talking about? I've made it so the articles is written like any other page on an anime. The Saint Seiya pages are in an awful state. The English and Japanese character names should not be separated (look at like the Bleach or Naruto character lists). Please do not revert them. The way the pages were set up was bad and I've made it better. Please see MOS:ANIME for the rules on writing these pages.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 04:25, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I will not revert it because you say it? The reverting will be made where changes are not needed. For example, katakana for the Saint's constellations: its been agreed for years that only kanji is used for consistence with all SS articles. Only constellations which have no transliteration in kanji use katakana. If your changes are good, they will be welcome, but if they don't help to improve, I am sorry, but reverting will be in order. I have been in charge of the SS articles for years, and I have a good criteria for what to keep and what to remove. Don't worry, as I said, if your changes are useful, they will be kept. Onikiri (talk) 02:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. Katakana is needed because the Japanese text that is provided is in no way resembling the intended pronunciations. "天馬星座" is never read as "Pegasasu" in Japan except as part of Saint Seiya (it's always "Tenma-za"), so we need to show that those kanji are read as "Pegasasu" rather than "Tenma-za". The same thing goes for the several constellations that aren't written with kanji. You do not expect that "かじき座" should be read as "Dorado" because that says "Kajiki-za" and not "Dorado".
 * Any direct translations of characters' names are original research. It has no bearing on the actual program or the reader's understanding of such.
 * Also, you keep saying "Athena" is the character and her name is written with the same kanji for "Megami", which does not appear to be the case when I investigate elsewhere online.
 * And finally, you seem to refuse to refer to the main characters as anything other than "Kōga", "Sōma", and "Ryūhō" but you previously included information that the characters' names are written as "Kouga", "Souma", and "Ryuhou" in magazines in Japan. If this is the case, then that means those are the character's officially translated English names.
 * I am coming to these pages to bring them in line with WP:MOS-JA and general practice for when kanji and readings in no way match. Just because you've been working on the Saint Seiya pages for this long does not mean that you are right and I am wrong. Please keep this in mind, because I've just gone through and added all the katakana, again, and corrected your over usage of Hepburn romanization. The katakana provides more information and if I had the time I would add the information to the old Saint Seiya pages as well.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 00:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to realize that these pages need to make sense to anyone. Not just the well versed Saint Seiya fan.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:10, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're going to remove the katakana, just do that, because I fixed a lot of other errors on the page such as bad romanizations and bad formatting. Don't revert. And I've been a member of this site longer than you so don't say "There are others more experienced". And just because things have "been like that for ages" does not mean that it works at all.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm going through a lot of the old character lists and finding that they are using the past tense. You never write about fiction in the past tense because that treats it like an actual event. I will just be fixing usage of Japanese text on these pages, so it would be best if you rewrote everything so it's in the present tense.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Dude, I have been editing on wikipedia for more than five years. I know what has to be reverted and what not, so, any changes you make, if revert is needed, it will be done. Onikiri (talk) 01:27, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And I've been on Wikipedia for six years and I was an admin for three of those years. Don't tell me that I don't know what's right and wrong.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * For one thing, you do not label an edit where 500 bits of text are changed as "minor". Leave the katakana in. It's what WP:MOS-JA says.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:40, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And I'm going through all of the Saint Seiya character lists such that the katakana forms of the Saint titles are included because those kanji names do not match the Hepburn pronunciations.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Logging out to make that same revert you've been doing is also wrong.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 09:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Let me also state things again. Your personal opinion as to how these pages should be kept does not match the standard practice outside of your little garden of articles on Saint Seiya. Because the kanji and hiragana names used in the constellation titles of these characters do not match the pronunciations that Saint Seiya uses for them.
 * Also it appears that Seiya is the Sagittarius Saint in Omega, so that is another bit of information that you've been falsely including in the article that you've kept a strangle hold on for the past several months.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 09:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Stop labeling your reverts as "Minor add" and stop editing while logged out.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 00:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Geez, would you stop throwing the baby out with the bathwater in regards to all my edits? You are the only one who says these edits are "unnecessary" when you are now in the minority in the consensus that's building.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 06:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Stop now. I edited the pages to fit in with WP:ANIME and WP:MOS-JA, as well as removing any original research. Just because you disagree with my use of katakana does not give you the right to keep reverting everything. I am trying to discuss things with you but you are just ignoring me entirely.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 06:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Respond to my messages. Respóndeme. 答える. I know you can understand all of these languages.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 06:13, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not ignoring you, but youre the one trying to force your will in the articles. The SS articles have been all but abandoned by other users by years, I have been taking care of them for the last years. That's why no one's complaining about your changes, in your opinion. But I have already contacted the users that helped me years ago, and I am sure they won't be too pleased with the unneeded changes- So reverting is in order where needed. Good additions and material, very much welcome. Unneeded or superfluos changes, reverted Onikiri (talk) 06:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * So this automatically makes you the one who makes the final decision on these pages? Sjones23, who reverted you as well, also believes that the content you have added and removed is entirely improper. The katakana spellings are necessary because you have items that aren't written in kanji that are being read completely differently than from what they are supposed to. And the literal translations of character names are what are superfluous and unnecessary. I have been adding content in good faith. You have been removing it because you don't like it and you know what is best for the pages and no one else does. I have been doing my best to give all the relevant information, which in this case involves the katakana forms of the constellation names because the reading is so drastically different from what is standard. I am here to help. And it seems whoever wrote the Episode.G page also believed that the katakana forms were important, as they were there when I made it in line with the proper formatting practices on the English Wikipedia. You need to seriously read the style guides instead of doing what you think is best because you were the only one to write these pages for several years.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 06:21, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Too bad. Where reverting is needed, reverting will be madeOnikiri (talk) 02:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * But reverting is not needed. You should not revert the pages, anymore. You are now in the minority, and the times have changed since you first started writing these up and now consensus does not hold for your preferred versions.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 06:56, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I have decided to see if a wider audience can help us settle things. I have posted on WP:DRN about the problems I feel are at heart here.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 07:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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As an aside because I don't feel like making a new header, Stop using "Ryūhō" and "Kōga" in the text. You previously stated that they had their names written in English as "Ryuhou" and "Kouga" in an old revision of the character lists. Just use that form. It's easier.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 10:36, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Dude, stop using the Hepburn romanizations in English episode titles and summaries. Use "Koga", "Ryuhou", and "Souma". It's a lot easier unless you're just copy-pasting shit from other websites.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 22:16, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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Could you tell me where you're copying the episode titles from? Wherever it is seems to be adding unnecessary spaces after the full width exclamation points and using the Western comma instead of the CJK comma (、).— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 01:55, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Actually now I see that wherever it is it's wrong. You've been adding commas where they do not belong, and I just went through the entire list here and corrected everything that I found was incorrect. In the future, please use that link to get the new episode title as whenever you click it it will automatically bring you to the next episode (it redirects to #48 now but next week it will redirect to #49).— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 02:10, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

When you update the list, do not put spaces after the Japanese punctuation marks. The Japanese language does not use spaces at all. Just copy the episode titles directly from the Japanese website here (the "cur" link does not work so just click the link that says ストーリー).— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 07:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Onikiri, stop putting a space after 、 in Japanese. The Japanese language does not use spaces.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 04:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I have been telling you this for months now, written Japanese does not have spaces after punctuation. Where are you copying the titles from that there's a space? I showed you where the proper place for episodes is.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 06:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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