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Template:Ref expand
Hi I created this as I believed we needed a template like Bare URLs to encourage editors to add full citations not the just the websites. Can you improve this properly and sort out the documentation? I've asked Farmbrough to take care of adding it to some articles where the refs need filling out like Alogia (band).♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:58, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox mountain range
I am proposing that we use Infobox mountain range instead of. Please feel free to join the discussion. —hike395 (talk) 02:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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Music field of template "Infobox television episode"
You made a recent edit to "Dance with Somebody (Glee)" that changed the list of songs in the infobox's Music field from being separated by the HTML " " linebreak tag to using the Plainlist template. There's only one problem: the documentation for the "Infobox television episode" template specifically instructs that the songs should be separated by the linebreak tag.

I'm perfectly happy to change to Plainlist wherever appropriate, and to set up template fields so they use it. However, the documentation should call for it, or at least not specifically to call for. As long as the documentation does specify, that's what I expect to be used. Is there some other place that universally calls for Plainlist usage instead of the normal line breaks in such template fields, that trumps template documentation? BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:PLIST. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems to me that if you want this to catch on, the documentation for common templates ought to be changed so they don't tell people to do the wrong thing... BlueMoonset (talk) 22:03, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Most have been. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Birmingham
Thanks for fixing that one. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 09:32, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Ontario government ministries
seems redundant to template:infobox government agency or something similar. Frietjes (talk) 20:26, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So why not nominate it for deletion? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:02, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

The Lace Guild page initial draft complete and posted
Andy,

I've uploaded the Lace Guild page and want to add in the logo of the Lace Guild to the page but I can't find the page when I search for it. What do I do next.

Liz Baker Stuliz1123 (talk) 10:56, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I think I've posted it but I'm not sure. What do I do next?

Stuliz1123 (talk) 19:37, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Author templates
It appears that Works by Jack Vance should be renamed too. It's one of merely two that begin with "Works by". Category:Speculative fiction author navigational boxes

But i wait to learn more, see Template talk:Authority control re some other issues. I wait at least a day. --P64 (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * P.S. If you are expert, see my last edit at Category:Author templates. --P64 (talk) 20:53, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Infobox settlement Chile
new fork. Frietjes (talk) 22:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Cool edit. I am definitely going to remember to use the (bulleted list)  template in the future. Thanks for the example. :)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:05, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:US-president-row
One of the recent changes to US-president-row is causing the template to come up as lacking a references section. ( Cite error: There are tags on this page, but the references will not show without a template or a  inclusivity issue], which you and Tantek Çelik have written about.
 * The μF wiki makes it look like this is no longer an issue; is that the case? I must admit I'm now more confused than I was before... — OwenBlacker (Talk) 19:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, end-dates do not require a time; where do you see those warnings? I think this is a non-issue. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

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WWI Editathon
Hi Andy,

Just to let you know we've finalised the list of academics who'll be attending the World War I editathon next month, along with their areas of specialisation. If any of these are topics you'd be particularly interested in collaborating on, or you want to suggest articles in those fields that need work, please do make a note on the page - it'd be great if we could have some suggested topics ready in advance.

It was good to finally meet you last week - look forward to seeing you again in June! Any questions, do let me know... Andrew Gray (talk) 13:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Kings Norton Royal British Legion Youth Marching Band for deletion
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That is more readable.  MBisanz  talk 11:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

President
Are there any others we can link, do you think? Amandajm (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * None that I know of. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Ursula Eason
Thanks for the Highbeam tidying up; I really wasn't at all sure of the best way of giving Highbeam credit. George Ponderevo (talk) 21:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

MonmouthpediA Barnstar

 * Cheers, John. I'd be happy to work with you, any time. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:23, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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template:HighBeam
Hi, Andy. A User:George Ponderevo is edit warring with me over this template on Coral Island. See my talk. He's asserting that it's required, and I don't believe that to be the case. My view is that it's pretty spammy and the subscription required is sufficient. I'm thinking of TfDing it with an eye towards a redirect. Oh, he's also EW'ing over ';' as an improper shortcut for bold. Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) (Jack, Alarbus, pick one;) 22:49, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * per this. Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) 13:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * and I just that help page. Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) 14:16, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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Authority Control Integration
Hi, I've been researching the intersection of Wikipedia and Authority Control, and have just recently made a Village Pump Proposal to create a bot to expand the usage of a template. I've identified you as someone in the sphere of interest to this project and would appreciate your input at the Village Pump. Thanks, Maximiliankleinoclc (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


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Nomination for deletion of Template:HighBeam
Template:HighBeam has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) 21:27, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that the replacement/"merger" of this template was suggested by a number of editors.   But it's unclear to me how the editor experience has been improved by replacing an easily-remembered 8-character template with a more complex template that's four times as long, and yet yields the same text result as the shorter one did. (In fact the replacement template is actually a bit longer than the text it yields.)  At any rate, I wanted to thank you for your effort in creating this template; it did save some time while it was around.--Arxiloxos (talk) 16:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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Infoboxes
User:WOSlinker/Infoboxes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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QRpedia / dealing with renamed articles and/or change of url syntax
Hi Pigsonthewing, I have two questions about the QRpedia project: 1) Does it in some way address the issue that an article might be moved and no longer be accessible afterward under the old name? What happens to the interlanguage links if that happens? 2) If the Wikimedia Foundation were for some reason to change the URL of Wikipedia articles, e.g. to .../wiki2/Dog instead of .../wiki/Dog, would QRpedia be able to change the redirect accordingly? I'm asking because we received an email today at info-de where someone asked about the reliability of Wikipedia URLs (he wants to create QR codes to illustrate plates in front of trees with links to the corresponding Wikipedia article, and I thought that this might perhaps be better handled via QRpedia than through QR codes linking directly to the article). Cheers, —Pill (talk) 11:26, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Quick microformat question
Hey Andy, I'm planning to display time-dependent content in the WikiMiniAtlas soon (historical borders etc.). I need a way to figure out a time/timespan associated with the subject of the current article (to present the correct dataset). Event microformats come to mind. Do you have an idea of how common they are on historical articles in WP? --Dschwen 16:57, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You'd be looking for the presence of templates in the family of Start date and End date, in infoboxes which emit hCalendar microformats. I have a current BOTREQ (which I mentioned to you the other day) to complete the job of converting such dates to use those templates, which will increase their prevalence significantly. Also, note the caveat, in their documentation, about their use being problematic for pre-Gregorian era dates. Please let me know if I can help further. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:SevernBoth.png


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Point coordinate controversy
Hey Andy, I ran into User:Tom Morris at the end of the unconference, where he casually mentioned that he'd like to replace a ton of coordinate templates with direct links to OSM. I gues that qualifies him to be thrown under a bus by you ;-). I argued a bit with him, showing him the WikiMiniAtlas (which of course he did not know). He brought the M25 motorway example and I showed him how it is shown as a line on the WMA. Anyhow, there is a way we can find a compromise, leaving the point coordinates in the article, but adding a parameter for an OSM ID to the template. This could be passed on to the geohack, enhancing the display on Google Maps and Bing (I personally do not care about making those look good, but apparently other users do). If an OSM ID parameter is passed to the geohack we could then generate Google Maps links that are wrapped using a script that extracts the OSM object and creates a KML file from it to be displayed in GM. Maybe it is still the excitement form the conference that is making me think this could be a solution to make everybody happy... --Dschwen 01:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Sure, of course in addition to coordinates. I also talked to an OSM guys who said that OSM IDs were a reliable and permanent mapping (contrary to what the OSM wiki says). --Dschwen 05:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but not everything we geotag will be mapped in OSM (for example: locations where events such as battles or plane crashes happened). Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, absolutely. For un-OSM-mapped objects we now have the Attached KML template (maybe not the ideal solution, but at least it works for now), and sometime we might get time dependent maps. Did you talk to the mapstory.org people? --Dschwen 13:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Attached KML does not remove the need for our current system of geotagging with a pair of coordinates. I don't think I know anyone from mapstory.org Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify: I do not think any of these approaches removes the need for point coordinates! Please do not accidentally throw the wrong person under a bus ;-) --Dschwen 15:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania

 * Hey, it was great to meet you too! Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

QRpedia article template error
Andy, The QRpedia aticle template has plus signs "+" where underscores "_" should be, so that the stats don't read out properly. I don't know much about templates, but am hoping this is easily fixed. Smallbones (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. See here. -- WOSlinker (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Infobox aircraft
Template_talk:Infobox_aircraft. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

2012 Aurora shooting and date/time metadata
Hi, Andy. Would you keep any eye on this. Teh Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) 08:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Template:HighBeam


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Andy, you know better. Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) 15:23, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I clearly know better than you that your stated reason for nominating this template for speedy deletion is bogus. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Moscow on QRs
For an odd bit - see WT:QR. Smallbones (talk) 20:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Infobox derecho
Template:Derechobox – I wanted to drop by not as a US Roads member but as a Trop Cyclones member for a moment that this came to my attention and since I know you're good enough with templates, I'd like some advice if you think this is redundant in general to a severe storm infobox. The guy who made it also made Late July 2012 North American derecho, which uses said box. To say the least, I ain't happy that he made his own color and intensity scheme which is an OR in itself, but I'd just like an opinion from you. Mitch 32 (There is a destiny that makes us... family.) 18:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It certainly seems redundant - have you reached out to the editor who made it? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:33, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Birmingham Meet-up
Hi Pigs/Andy, do you plan on creating another Birmingham meet-up any time soon. It's been ages since the last. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 10:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Turnout was poor, last time, but why not - when do you suggest? Also, I'm organising an editathon (not yet announced) in November - watch this space! Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well if turnout was an issue then how about making it quite far away? Like 2 months, a year...Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 10:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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GibraltarpediA
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Politics and Prose
Hey! Just wanted to say, thanks for catching this awful mistake of mine. Much obliged. Nomader (talk) 05:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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British Boxing Hall of Fame page
Hi Andy

Thanks for your comments and advice regarding the dispute over the British Boxing Hall of Fame page(s) and apologies for not following protocol.

It is very frustrating as it seems to be an open and shut case and example of trademark theft. I understand that in the real world though that things are not always that simple.

If you don't mind I would like to go over our position in a little more detail:

OUR CREDENTIALS

The British Boxing Hall of Fame Ltd was registered as a company in the UK in november 2011. http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/48d54d6ba8eb3a4f8babba56032ff596/compdetails

Due to the use of the sensitive use of the word British in our name, we are recognised as being 'preeminent in our field' by the Department of the Secretary of State for Sport. All companies using the word British in the title need to be vetted and have to supply a letter of endorsement from their sport's governing body -

Here is a link to the official letter of endorsement from British boxing's governing body, The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) - https://docs.google.com/open?id=1Pcd372V1fAaOT5BwM_XE9otCgsbCapRBwcvBz8CCm0qfadyBF4YkuvyWnRJt

The trademark for the British Boxing Hall of Fame was granted in 2010 with no objections and elaspes in 2020 - http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-number?detailsrequested=C&trademark=2552093

We are officially endorsed and supported by the two leading boxing magazines in the United Kingdom - Boxing News (editor Tris Dixon) and Boxing Monthly (editor Glyn Leach). We are supported by a network of historians and top journalists globally. References are available from the very highest level.

THE OTHER ORGANISATION

The other organisation registered its domain names and company name in July 2012 but oddly claim to have a history going back to 2008. This is not true and they have no evidence to substantiate this. They have never staged events under the banner of the British Boxing Hall of Fame.

They claim to have a list of supporters/ambassadors but really that is no great achievement as we can do the same on an even higher level.

The real issue is that they are cynically attempting to steal our identity. We are already undertaking action with regard to company names and their online presence but the wikipedia article is particularly irritating because of its high search engine ranking.

I hope this is all a little clearer now.

Regards Stewart Howe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stewarthowe (talk • contribs) 09:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but your position was already clear; and my response remains as I made it under similar comments elsewhere. Nonetheless, if I can help by explaining how Wikipedia works, please feel free to ask. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of D. Ian M. Wallace for deletion
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Eric James Eames
I've added (referenced) birth/death dates to this article and expanded the text a little. however, for some reason I can't add it to my Watch List. I'll try to remember to check the article for any comments from you on the talk page over the next few days, but you might like to ping me, or make a note here, if you need my attention.--Quiet Editor (talk) 15:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you,and for letting me know. I've added a little more, and the  parameter to Start date. There have been some server issues today; you might be able to watchlist the article if you try again later.  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Roger Steare
I haven't had a chance to check it for neutrality yet, but one thing I am concerned about is the resume-esque nature of the article. The career section in particular is written in bullet format. Also, there are some regionally unique language in there such as "read History at..." which I assumes means "studied History at...." Just my two cents so far.--v/r - TP 19:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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Wiki Loves Public Art
Hi Andy,

I read about your cool idea about Wolvopedia on Maketheshift (apparently blocked here...) and wanted to tell you about my project, Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA), and suggest to you the possibility to cooperate a little bit. WLPA is inspired by Wiki Loves Monuments and will focus, as the name suggests, on public artworks. The pictures will be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and even though some basic rules will be the same for all countries participating, the contest will have a rather federative approach and there can be adjustment locally so that it works better. The project is lead by Wikimedia Sweden in partnership with Europeana.

What I would suggest is to organize a local version of WLPA in Wolverhampton in connection to the larger international contest during May 2013. On top of the actual photo contest it would be great to have side activities to invite people to write about the objects, organize photo scavenger hunts etc. To do this together I think would create a bit more headlines for your project and a great way to get people involved; and for me Wolverhampton would be a great pilot city to start with to see how the concept works in the UK. I have also been in contact with Harry Mitchell about a similar thing for Coventry, but I am not sure if he is interested or not, and in any case I believe that there are many benefits with having two pilot cities instead of just one.

I hope that you think that it sounds interesting and would like to sign up on the list of volunteers that I have created on Wikimedia Sweden's wiki, see here.

All the best,

John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 12:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC) (a.k.a. Jopparn)
 * Thanks - I signed up for WLPA WPPA (on en.WP) just yesterday! I will certainly try to include it in what I hope to do in Wolverhampton (we can link to the main site, http://maketheshift.org/. I'm not sure I have time to be a national coordinator, though. If we get the go-ahead for Wolverhampton, then I'll sign up for that. You might want to talk to User:Rock drum about Coventry. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * That sounds good, but when will you know about Wolverhampton will happen or not? The WikiProject Public Art that you signed up for is something different though, even if I am hoping that a lot of the participants there will also help out with the Wiki Loves Public Art contest as well! Cheers, John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 14:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * After the event on 22 September. Thanks or the clarification. Why do we have two, very similar projects How are they being coordinated? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * WikiProject Public Art is just a WikiProject with public art as its theme, created to coordinate the work regarding public art on English Wikipedia.
 * Wiki Loves Public Art on the other hand is a photo contest very similar to Wiki Loves Monuments that will take place during one month every year (May 2013 will be the first!). The goals of the contest are to get as many good photos of public artworks as possible to Wikimedia Commons from all over the world; to attract both new and old contributors to go out with their cameras; and to increase cooperation between the Wikimedia chapters. I am working with the international coordination of Wiki Loves Public Art and thanks to our cooperation with Europeana we have access to legal staff that can help us figure out what we can and cannot do, we have a small budget to support events and the national teams organizing Wiki Loves Public Art. Europeana can also help us find GLAM partners that have the data that we need (and can help us to convince the GLAMs to release the data under a free license so that we can use it on Wiki(p|m)edia).
 * I hope that this made it a bit more clear :). Regards, John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 16:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)