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DYK nomination of Kissing the shuttle
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Covent Garden ballet bash
Much concern was expressed today, and I am empowered to send the collective wishes of assembled Wikipedians for your speedy recovery. No answer needed, natch! Tim riley (talk) 22:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVII, June 2013
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Health update
Thank you again to everyone who has sent or expressed good wishes. For those curious (which Wikipedian isn't?), I suffered a retinal detachment, which was treated by vitrectomy including the injection of a gas bubble. My eye surgeon is pleased with my progress, though it's still early days so far as knowing the long-term outcome. The gas bubble in my eye is reducing in size and I no longer need to lie prone for most of the time. While I will need to take regular breaks, I am now able to start to resume editing. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for good news! - Yes, I was curious ;) - please: take it easy, to avoid unhealthy dissonant chords ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear the good news.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  15:31, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad you're back, Andy. As a fellow detached retina surgery "survivor" (OK, that's a little overdramatic, maybe, but the post-op does feel like it!) I sure can empathize with the whole process.  That doggone gas bubble may actually be the most annoying part, nothing like live viewed through a carpenter's level for about a month, eh?  BTW, did they also do a Scleral buckle on you?  I got me one of those, too!  And the vitrectomy, and the gas bubble... and laser on the tear (which was extensive and got past the macula on me...), phooey.  :-P   Montanabw (talk) 16:18, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I was lucky, mine was peripheral, and caught early (36 hours after noticing it, I was in surgery). They used liquid nitrogen, rather than laser. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Very pleased indeed to see your name popping up on article edit histories again. Hope to see you firing on all cylinders again soon (but festina lente and don't overdo things!). Tim riley (talk) 18:31, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Good news - take it easy, but good to have you back on-line. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Category:Operas
Hi Andy, see the note on Category:Operas. For convenience of navigation, we list all operas in this category and in their subcats. Voceditenore (talk) 12:57, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I wasn't aware of that. I wonder how that's supposed to be more convenient than the way categories work on the rest of Wikipedia? Please can you point me to any prior discussion? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's convenient for the reader because it allows searching alphabetically in addition to taxonomically. Many times readers only have a vague idea of the opera's name and don't even know what subcat it might be in. It's been like this since 2005. See this CFD discussion and the resulting admin action here. Voceditenore (talk) 13:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Not all categories are diffused; see WP:DUPCAT and Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:All included. Best wishes, -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Sock accusation retractions
It won't happen. I had the same thing. There'll be no evidence, but you can't prove a negative. The smear will remain forever, and there's nothing you can do about it I'm afraid. Best to just get over it and move on. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You can also ask SchroCat who changed his user name after that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed. It seems some editors are keen to repeat it, too. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:54, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Again, it's better to just let it slide, no matter what. I discovered the more you protest, the more guilty you are perceived to be, no matter what.  The Rambling Man (talk) 19:55, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Report on COI noticeboard about your involvement in QRpedia
Please see here. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:54, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

you probably want to fix this
see TFD

Frietjes (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops. Done, Thank you. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:02, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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ANI
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Smerus (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you expand the infobox on the church pictured on the Main page (DYK)? - For some reason I could not explain, I posted something on bans this morning, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

ISWC
HI. You have edited International Standard Musical Work Code (ISWC), which needs clarification of how the ISWC-Network defines the term 'Unique Identifier' for musical works. The relevant Discussion Page gives examples of various works, which would appear to be duplicates. It is necessary to explain what constitues 'uniqueness', and how multiple assigned ISWC codes are conbined and de-referenced. Thanks. WhitePJ (talk) 19:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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WP:ANI and new WP:AN discussion
Hi Andy, I've closed off the discussion at WP:ANI concerning the possible topic ban breaches and will not be taking any administrative action against you for those edits. I believe, however, that the topic ban is poorly worded and have asked that specific namespace(s) be mentioned in the topic ban, so there's now a discussion at WP:AN which I hope will produce a more precisely worded topic ban. I have no personal interest in any sanctions and am informing you purely on a procedural basis. Best wishes, Nick (talk) 12:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the training session!
I'm finding it really useful. Opensourceress (talk) 15:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Schauspielhaus Wuppertal
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kissing the shuttle
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This Month in GLAM: June in the UK
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Eye
Unfortunately, I have a second detachment of my retina, requiring emergency surgery tomorrow. After that, I shall probably be unable to edit Wikipedia for one or two weeks. I shall be reading email, on my phone. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Best wishes for good care, Andy, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good luck with that, and best wishes. De728631 (talk) 16:36, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Say if there is anything we can do to help -- Clem Rutter (talk) 20:43, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good luck, man! oknazevad (talk) 04:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good luck with that Andy. We'll miss you here. Secondarywaltz (talk) 04:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Only just spotted this. Best wishes from me, too. Tim riley (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you again to everyone who expressed kind wishes. My surgery went well and the eye is recovering slowly, as expected. I still have a gas bubble, which will last for about two months. I shall then have another operation. I am no longer required to lie prone, so can use my laptop again, albeit with one eye. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:37, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Eeks, I wish you a speedy recovery Andy.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  08:56, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good to see your sign again on my watchlist" - Who will be first to expand Düsseldorfer Schauspielhaus for me? - joking, take it easy, Andy, I will post to opera now, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

QSMM and ICE
QSMM:As you see I have knocked of Piece-rate lists, and this opens a potential series of articles relating to unionism, early Labour history. Enjoy. We still have the outstanding issue of copyright in LCC museums- any developments? I am waiting to upload some Helmshore material still. Looking at the GLAM/Queen Street Mill Museum/event it would be very helpful to me to have a report on what happened. (Zero short term memory). Particularly the names of the attendees and their emails. There were items that came up in discussion that should be noted- particularly the concerns of new editors- even a photo of the event. Could this be thought about? ICE:I can come along and assist if that is helpful, either with new editors or with a camera but I don't fancy coming along cold with out a briefing of what we are attempting to achieve. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 11:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll get back to you once the issue below is resolved. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No urgency- I have sent you Harle Syke Mill as a get well soon present. I was thinking that LCC could use this article to contact the Briercliffe Society to show them what we are doing. In particular it would be nice to have Roger Frost on board- and negotiate with him whether he would like to donate his collection of pre-1923 postcards to commons. I will be leaving for France about 22 August and will have limited Internet access until September. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 15:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Portrait of Kitty redux
Andy, I hope you're recovering well. Whenever you're able—no rush; take it easy and don't overdo—please stop by and answer Froggerlaura's question (or take care of the McGregor/quote attribute issue she raised). Once that's done, the nomination should be ready for approval. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * In a later development, Froggerlaura makes a troubling find. I am far from certain this will be approved now, and would appreciate your engagement on the page when it is feasible. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Template merge
Regarding your proposal to merge Template:Infobox royalty with Template:Infobox monarch, you do realise that most royalty (e.g. members of a royal family) aren't monarchs? AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The former template is also used for Monarchs. We don't need two. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Possibly, but that doesn't alter the fact that e.g. Prince Charles is Royalty, but he isn't a Monarch. I see you have revised your proposal, and will comment there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

RFAR
your name was listed at WP:RFAR (here). I'm not sure who listed it, but just letting you know. — Ched : ?  13:57, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

template:Ga.legis
may need some microformats since it's not using infobox legislature. Frietjes (talk) 16:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll await the TfD outcome (and will comment there shortly). Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * okay. I will watch for your comments there. reading the code for that template is a step back in time before infobox. Frietjes (talk) 14:20, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Infobox/nav box disputes
You are invited to comment at Village pump (technical).♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  09:36, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

TFD template for infoboxes
Hello Andy. When tagging infoboxes with the {{subst:tfd}} template, can I please urge you to use the sidebar parameter? This will ensure the TFD banner appears above the infobox in articles, rather than across the entire page (which is very confusing to readers). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by This, that and the other (talk • contribs) 10:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I use Twinkle; suggest you ask for that to be included in its logic. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you shouldn't be using Twinkle until this is fixed, out of courtesy to other users, and since you nominate so many templates for deletion,essentially causing so many of these issues, perhaps you should suggest it for the same reason. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 21:36, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing is broken. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * We could say that about nearly every template you nominate for deletion, but whether or not anything is broken is irrelevant. It's a simple request to do something to help avoid confusing our readers any more than they need to be confused. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 04:50, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I am one of the maintainers of Twinkle, so I will ask myself to implement it :) In the meantime, please edit the template manually to add this parameter after using Twinkle. (Sorry for leaving an unsigned comment, by the way.) — This, that and the other (talk) 00:22, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sophie Fedorovitch
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The sound that Peter Bazalgette makes
Hmm, I've not had much experience of audio on Wikipedia, and can't find any obvious policy on where it is and isn't appropriate, but skimming the pages that include the listen template, they all seem to be musicians, poets and other performers, and animals and instruments. Isn't it confusing for the reader to have a voice clip on the biography of a person who is in no way known for his voice? It seems like having an uncaptioned photo of someone wearing a football strip and kicking a ball, on an article about someone who isn't known for playing football. Or, at best, a sound clip of a teaspoon stirring some tea, on the teaspoon article - it wouldn't be misleading, the sound just wouldn't be important to someone wanting to understand teaspoons to an encyclopedia level. Let me know if there's a policy or precedent I'm missing here. --McGeddon (talk) 11:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Why would it confuse people? How else will people know what the subject sounds like, or how they pronounce their name? Although we haven't been soliciting such recordings for long, we already have a couple of dozen or more. there's more information on Wikipedia Commons, which you can reach via WP:VoiceIntro. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:13, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Aha, thanks, that context makes it a lot clearer. It's confusing with no explanation, because if an article just contains a box marked "Bazalgette's voice", the reader doesn't know why it's there, and can only assume that it's somehow important; the same way that a photo captioned "Bazalgette's cheese grater" would suggest that it was somehow a significant part of his life or career. Have you thought about using something more like the Spoken Wikipedia template, that tells the reader what they're going to get? (Knowing how to pronounce a name is certainly useful, but the current template doesn't tell the reader that the clip includes the speaker pronouncing his own name.) --McGeddon (talk) 11:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * We could perhaps expand the caption, to something like "Bazalgette introduces himself". Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * This looks fantastic lets have a beer. Sizerr (talk) 13:00, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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 * Well done I owe you a beer. Nonameatall (talk) 13:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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 * This is fantaastic Tony. Tonysidcup (talk) 13:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Have a beer on me. Hajimi (talk) 14:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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Subtitle
I had a question (look for "The Rite of Spring"), then saw that the always helpful one hasn't edited recently. How about you always helpful one? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello
I didn't know there'd be this much work involved! IsabelJones (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

HELLO
Hello Andy: I am finding this morning's training most useful.

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Hello
Did you know Catherine has had a baby boy? Aveline9 (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello and thanks
Thank you for the instruction, I hope I remember some of it! Ali Pritchard (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Andy, this is extremely useful. Brian Rapson (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * Worked on SpamBlacklist to filter URL values in Wikibase
 * Improved handling of corrupt data from the database
 * Made tests more reliable
 * Made regular undo via the API work with Wikibase
 * Worked on Time value formatter
 * Error handling for ByPropertyValue API module
 * Work on implementing QueryEntity
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
 * Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
 * Respond to a "Request for Comment".
 * Hack on one of these.

Thomas Yeoman
Andy, I can easily add a few citations tho probably not more sources - unfortunately the online DNB, my original source, doesn't have page numbers. Thanks for the nomination.

The reference to the Universal Director is problematic. Whether it deserves a Wiki entry I don't know - it only had one edition. There are plenty of references to it on the web but whether they'll ever be a google scan who knows. But it does contain the first recorded use of the term civil engineer. Chris55 (talk) 12:14, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Little Miss Barber


The article Little Miss Barber has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non Notable advertising character

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Named horse infobox
Hey Andy, not sure why you changed Infobox named horse to list everything with a different sequence of numbers. I reverted it for now, but can you pop over to talk and let us know what you thinking was on that? Thanks! Montanabw (talk) 03:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Little Miss Barber for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Little Miss Barber is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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DYK nomination of International Society for Soil Mechanics and Geotechnical Engineering
Hello! Your submission of International Society for Soil Mechanics and Geotechnical Engineering at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —David Eppstein (talk) 22:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Geoffrey Binnie
Orlady (talk) 08:03, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Opernhaus Wuppertal
Orlady (talk) 00:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC) Did you know that I saw a performance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox country at games
Hi! I see you are trying to make that template look better. To me it's maybe a bit colourful, and should look more like Olympic country template (example) or CAaCG template (example). And no need to make it too long. Looking forward to your opinions. Pelmeen10 (talk) 00:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Olympic template looks much better; but I've not been not worried to much about visual niceties so far. Merging with the Olympic template may be a long-term outcome. However, data granularity is important, and I don't think your merging of parameters on the Panama article is a good idea. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, actually the Panama article should have the template it used to have before you changed it to this one. Why did you do that anyway? Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm merging the two templates; showing that it worked. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:42, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jean Venables
Hello! Your submission of Jean Venables at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
— <span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 03:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Theo's Little Bot 24
The bot has finished converting all instances of Template:Infobox poem to use (and I've manually done the 4 or 5 it couldn't process, which were added to Category:Infoboxes needing manual conversion to use start date by the bot). Is there consensus to perform this task for other infoboxes? I've spoken with a member of the Bot Approvals Group and he said that if there is consensus, future runs (for different templates) can be speedily approved. Keep me posted,  Theopolisme ( talk )  04:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! There is clear community consensus for this action. I have a list of likely candidates, and some caveats for a few of them at User:Pigsonthewing/to-do. I'm happy to discuss any individual cases as they arise. On the next run, please allow me to examine entries in the "needing manual intervention" category before converting them, so I can see what the causes are. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:26, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Great. I'll file another BRFA now for "general conversion", so that we don't have to request approval for future conversions.  Theopolisme  ( talk )  16:42, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ...and here's the BRFA.  Theopolisme ( talk )  17:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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Welcoming
Hi Andy, I was on your training at Shropshire Archives a couple of weeks ago. We are presenting the training to a group of managers here next week and would very much like to give them access to the information you set up on our talk pages. Would you be able to let me and John David Benson have instruction on how to set this up for others please?-->

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 * Copy and paste  onto their talk pages.  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:39, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #69
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 16:10, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * Request for comment on defining CheckUsers.
 * Request for comment on class ⇄ instance relationship in Wikidata
 * The d:Wikidata:Global Economic Map task force is starting its property list. Please go there to propose important properties about economics for countries, regions or companies.
 * Events/Press
 * Next office hour on August 26
 * COSCUP this weekend, Taipei (August 3-4, 2013)
 * Wikimania is nearly here!, Hong Kong (August 7-11, 2013)
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * The list of interwiki links has been updated with more infomation and now also includes wikivoyage!
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: removed feature, introduced feature, Parent company
 * Newest task forces: Global Economic Map task force
 * Development
 * Custom edit-summaries added for the majority of API modules
 * Started working on implementation for ordering qualifiers in the JavaScript user interface
 * ChangeOps for wbsetclaimvalue, wbcreateclaim, wbremoveclaims and refactoring of wbremoveclaim
 * Fix handling of '0' value in API response
 * Solved bugs related to copyright notice
 * Some minor UI speed improvements
 * EditEntity refactored
 * Test cases improved
 * Further work on URLs
 * Work on implementing QueryEntity
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
 * Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
 * Respond to a "Request for Comment".
 * Hack on one of these.

Personal attacks
Andy, for the second time in two days, you have made a personal attack on another contributor (I am referring to, where you accuse another editor of vandalising an article,  later rephrased, that's true). Please stop. I understand you may feel frustrated, but attacking other editors doesn't help the committee understand the situation and reach a fair decision; and seeing as the atmosphere is already rather charged, I'd like to invite you not to add to it, please. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No, Salvio, I made no personal attack, and attacked no editor (the second edit you cite was part of a set, seconds apart, which you do not quote, and so is out of context). I refuted false evidence in an Arbcom case, which wrongly impugned my reputation. I note that you have issued no warning for that unwarranted attack, nor for the removal of cited content to which you refer. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:24, 4 August 2013 (UTC)