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Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate)


Since you're clearly advertising (!) - Happy 21st!!! (again!) The gift is in the mail :) --kingboyk 07:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Heh cheers, big ears. :) Hope you're having a decent Easter. --Mal 07:53, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

User page and categories
I am sorry about having edited without your consent one of your user page. But, this page used categories. It don't like to see user page in categories when I am looking for something. That's just why I made this change. 82.67.183.125 18:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I understand your reasons, and I kept the changes (although I think I had to re-add the categories and comment them out instead). But I think it would have been better to make a suggestion on here instead of going ahead and editing it. The end result is the same, and thank you for bringing it to my attention. --Mal 19:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Irish-Scots
Please keep an eye of the Irish-Scots page: a number of censors/revisionists have been doing damage to the page; deleting what they want and sanitizing the rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.79.171 (talk • contribs)


 * Hi Robert! Back again? - Ali-oops&#9997; 06:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

re: Crack
No bother, mate :). Blackcap (talk) 05:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I'd like to commend you for not reverting this edit. You'd have been wholly right to have done so, of course, but then I'm a strong believer in not reverting other's changes back to one's own (without discussion, anyway), and also in defending each other and not oneself. Fair play to ya. Blackcap (talk) 05:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That's a good policy, and I think I could learn from that myself tbh. I'm not sure its always possible to avoid reverting back to your own edits (and obvious vandalism is a good example of an exception to the rule). But its certainly food for thought. The only reason I had moved the article to the new title in the first place was that there seemed to be a kind of concensus about it in the talk page.. I have known of the origins of the word for a good many years, and I've never spelled it other than crack (the few times I've had to write it down that is!). What does interest me is at what point it was adopted into the Irish language? A few webpages I've read about it suggest some time in the 1980s... unfortunately I'm not at Coleraine university any more, otherwise I would have access to a wealth of knowledge on the subject (that campus was a languages mainstay - particularly Irish). --Mal 08:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah good work on that talk page Mal, you have me convinced (and I know bugger all about it! :) - although I've had a good crack/craic with Irish backpackers on more than one occasion I can tell you!) --kingboyk 05:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Cheers mate. I could me a rather rude joke at this point regarding "bugger" and "crack".. but I'll not bother! lol --Mal 08:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Jimmy Stewart
Hi,

I noticed you added Jimmy Stewart back to the List of Northern Irish people article. I can find no mention of any Northern Irish decent relating to him; his biography makes no mention of it, apart from a "Scots-Irish decent" tag at the top. Did he consider himself Irish-American? If so, does he claim decent through his mother or father? Perhaps we can add this instead of simply stating "County Antrim" (which is rather confusing)? Cheers, MartinRobinson 15:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Martin. He was US-born, but his family lived in Antrim before moving to the USA. I honestly can't remember where, but I saw the info about him on a couple of websites recently when I had initially added him. I know older members of my family had always spoken about how him and John Wayne's families had come from Northern Ireland (well - Ulster I suppose, since they left before NI came into being!).


 * When I added John Wayne and Sam Neill, I put in County Antrim for the former and Omagh for the latter because that was the way I had been adding all the other people - name, then place of origin. Actually, I think I had put down that Wayne was a "proud Scots-Irishman" because I remember seeing him interviewed by Michael Parkinson or someone, and he had said how proud he was of his heritage. Someone changed that though I think. I just thought it was handy to note whereabouts their families (or the person themselves) had originated. --Mal 18:43, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Mal, reading the info on the Jimmy Stewart page, its says that his parents owned a hardware store, and that it had been in the family for several generations. This led me to believe that his family had been resident in the US for quite a wee while. No matter though; if his family are from Antrim, he deserves his place on the list.


 * I'm afraid it was I who deleted the note that John Wayne was a "proud Scots-Irishman"; it just seemed somewhat out of step with how the information was presented elsewhere on the page (if I'm ever fortunate enough to find my way onto the page though, feel free to add "Martin Robinson, confused County Down man"...lol). Perhaps if you feel that the fact John Wayne was proud of his heritage warrants a mention, you could add it in an appropriate place on the John Wayne article (and/or add it back to the article)? I'm not adverse to documenting the geographical origins of people's families, but for someone who's clearly not from Northern Ireland, I think "family originated in County Antrim" works better than simply "County Antrim". If the list is to be useful, it should be readily apparent why someone is on it, IMHO. MartinRobinson 01:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * lol at the "confused County Down man"! I think you made a good decision regarding the Wayne edit - what I had added was indeed out of step. I have to say though that at the time I had added him, I was still finding my legs with the article itself, which I think is one of the ones I created.


 * As for your suggestion, yeah - something like what you have written above "family from County Antrim" sounds good to me. I'd love to be more specific - 99% of the other people there have specific towns, villages or cities cited. --Mal 16:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Devin79 is back again
Could you revert his pov changes to Provisional IRA please, as my browser can't support the whole article. Cheers. Jdorney 18:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry JD - I wasn't around yesterday. Its looks as though Boothy made the revert though. --Mal 16:33, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Guess who's back again? This is really getting boring. As usual I must appeal to people to revert this guy's changes on the PIRA article and also on the Provisional IRA campaign 1969-1997 article. I've had enough of this guy at this stage and am going to report his activities. Have a look at what he put inot the Henry McDonald article before I got rid of it. Aside completely from being rubbish, what he wrote was actually libelous. I'm starting to think that wikipedia can nver really work as there will always be people like Devin79 around to f*ck up everyone elses work. All the best, Jdorney 19:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey!
If yer gonna copy my writing, please give me a credit in the edit summary! :) I can see various parts of my handiwork over at your new WikiProject, you rascal you! :P

There's messages for you on my talk page. --kingboyk 15:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * lol I've not finished yet.. and frig knows what was yours, what was Lars' and even, dare I say it, what was mine! I'll probably credit both you and Lar on the main page. What do you think of it so far anyway? --Mal 15:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well most of it was mine! The log, the policies etc etc! Geez, I dunno. Anyway, I have a question for you: What are you gonna call your articles subcategory? Category:WikiProject Northern Irish articles articles?! I await the outcome to this one with great interest :)


 * Looking good, of course - and so it should since I wrote most of it! ;) --kingboyk 15:26, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ermmm .. I haven't thought about that yet. I'm not sure there's any need for it really... I think... :| --Mal 15:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course there is! You're gonna tag the talk pages with a project template and put them into a category aren't you?! Gosh, I'm gonna enjoy this! --kingboyk 01:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Nope. :P --Mal 10:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Northern Ireland might be a bit more conventional? --kingboyk 10:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Dunno mate. For a start, I haven't found the need for a Northern Irish articles articles(!) page yet. I might have a look at the equivalent page on the Beatles Proj and see what its all about. I named it 'Northern Irish articles because it wasn't only intended to be about Northern Ireland.. but about Northern Irish 'things' as well.. if you understand me. Besides which.. how easy would it be to change the name and all the links..? --Mal 10:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Quite hard, you'd have to move them all manually, but it would me much easier doing it now than doing it much further down the road, so have a think about it. --kingboyk 11:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK I've come up with a solution which will create less work - the category should be named Category:List of Northern Irish articles. What do you think? --Mal 11:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you might run into some opposition because of the unconventional name of your Project, but that's a risk you'll have to run :) Your suggestion is good. Dammit! :P --kingboyk 12:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I edit-summarised a few of your articles vis a vis where they originated from, without noticing you'd given credit on the project page! (with undue prominence really, heh!). Sorry about that. Didn't mean to be a dick.

Mmm... I still think you ought to rename it "Northern Ireland". That wouldn't prevent you from including articles about NI people in your Project scope. You'll also need Project categories, but I refrained from creating them myself because of the naming question. Have a browse through Category:Regional WikiProjects and see what you think. --kingboyk 08:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Fergus Mór
Hello Mal, hope the sun is shining down on you; it's a fine day here. I've redone Fergus I of Dalriada/Fergus Mór, would you mind having a look through it ? I've tried to balance the very tenuous facts with his later importance as a "mythical" ancestor of Scots kings. I don't know if it works though, so please let me know if it's a load of old bollocks. Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

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Premiership TV Rights
Mal -

I see you successfully bid for packages C and D of the 2007-2010 broadcasting rights for premiership football. Congratulations. What is the origin of your Wiki name, anyway, a mythical figure on an aeroplane? &mdash; SteveRwanda 15:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Blimey Mal, could you give me a cushy and ridiculously well paid job, please? :) --kingboyk 15:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * lol SteveRwanda - its based on the mythical figure. The username is usually taken up by others, so the first time this happened I added 'random' numbers to the end so I could keep the name. The only reason I chose 747 was because its pretty easy to remember.


 * Bit of history though - my first nickname on the internet back around 1991, was "Frodo". I changed this to "Hobbit" and I was known for a long time under that nick.. in some very popular Bulletin Board systems - eBBSes. Obviously those nicknames became increasingly popular again with the advent of the new Lord of the Rings films. Not one to particularly follow trends, I felt a change was needed. Cúchulainn was a common one, so I opted for the character's slightly less well-known original name instead.


 * KingboyK - I would love to - as soon as I get one meself! ;) --Mal 04:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I have a memory for promises like this you know - so in the lucky event you become the next Bill Gates expect to be hearing from me! :) --kingboyk 20:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Categories in userspace
Hi! I noticed that in your scratchpad / draft / alternative article User:Setanta747/Uluti you have the categories still activated, so it's showing up in Category:Irish mythology and a few others. Could I suggest that you deactivate them (by putting a colon before 'Category' in the link) until such time as the article is in the mainspace rather than the userspace? (As per WP:CG, "If you copy an article to your user namespace (for example, as a temporary draft or in response to an edit war) you should decategorize it".) Cheers, Z iggurat 21:27, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup Ziggurat - consider it done. Thanks for pointing it out. --Mal 04:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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revert
Please read this discussion before you revert the image mentioned above. Maybe my version might be uglier, but it is more correct than the old one.--Hun2 de Correct me! 10:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I had read the discussion before I reverted it. There's not really anything substantial there that supports the change you made to it in the first place. --Mal 00:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

"British aboriginals" in Ireland
You say on the England page that 'On top of this, people from the Republic of Ireland could also be described as British aboriginals, but not British by nationality'. How can they be "British aboriginals"? El Gringo 12:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks for asking your question. I'm not sure I explained it on the England talk page properly as I have not looked at it in a while. But yes - people from the Republic of Ireland can be described as being aboriginal British. The origin of the word is older than both the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland, and the original form of the word was used to describe the inhabitants of these islands as a collective people. --Mal 00:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:User NIR
You might have noticed from your userpage, that we are not allowed to be proud to be Northern Irish. Thought since you created it you might like to know. Bye for now. the Keith  20:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * A simple revert fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out. --Mal 00:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

William of Orange and Pope Innocent XI
I didn't mean to cause conflict (or portray my ignorance of the events that took place). I was only attempting to remove contradictory statements from wikipedia. For the Pope Innocent XI article states that there is no proof that he supported William of Orange. If you have information about this (and a source) your help would be most appreciated. Thanks, Chooserr 04:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I would suggest that you look into changing the Pope Innocent XI article then. I will help when I get some time to verify something which I learned at school. --Mal 10:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

F1 portal featured article
The F1 portal (in which I assume you have some degree of interest, as your name is listed on WikiProject_Formula_One) is intended to have a regular rotation of a 'featured article'. I've swapped a few in and out over the last couple of months, but I think it would be better if there were more of a community attempt at deciding this, proposals, votes, that kind of thing. So - why not pop over to Portal_talk:Formula_One and make a suggestion. Ta. 4u1e 00:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

BOPP'D!


Steve has bopped you on the top with a mop! Bops promote not only WikiLove, but also steady loss of brain cells! Hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the Moppage by bopping someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, and help the chief Mop achieve his goal of world domination. And to spread the Moppage, just use replacing with your username. Happy editing! kingboyk 17:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey mate
I noticed that in your userpage you said 'Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense, which translates to, "shame on him who thinks evil of it".' well.. a while back I emailed the United kingdom passport authority asking them what it meant, and they say it means "Evil be to who he who evil thinks"

Sorry to nit pick..

Dom0803 23:30, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah - that's just a user box which has been created for use by Wikipedians. I had nothing to do with its creation to be honest. Perhaps you should drop a wee note on the talk page of the userbox. You can find the userbox here: Template:User uk wikipedian. --Mal 09:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

NI projects
I see you mentioned about doing NI projects.. I'd certainly enjoy helping, but I'm not sure how I could. I may have picked up wrong but all the projects seem to be in county fermanagha? Considerable distance from Dundonald :P If there is anything more local to Belfast I'm sure I could probably help out. I'm a photographer, so taking photos would probably be my thing, but i've also done a little journalism in my time, so I guess that too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom0803 (talk • contribs)


 * Well, as you live in Northern Ireland, I'm sure you have plenty of experience and knowledge of the place.. family members who work in certain areas or whatever. I can't see that everything in the project pages is about Fermanagh, but I'll have to have a look to see what you mean! The Northern Irish article project covers everything from politics, to Samson & Goliath, to the Ulster Fry, to George Best - everything and anything that is related to Northern Ireland or the Northern Irish people.


 * I noticed someone has left you a message on your talk page regarding your creation of the Gilnahirk article - that's the sort of thing that Wikipedia needs - articles that are missing, and articles that need improving or correction. Congrats on that one by the way. As for photography - yes.. if its ever handy for you to take pictures of locations in Belfast for example, for particular articles, I'll maybe come to you if I can't find any free images on the 'net. :)


 * I grew up a wee bit up the road from Dundonald by the way. I'm hoping the Dundonald link turns blue here! --Mal 11:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Champ (food)
Someone already put it back up. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If you don't want your articles to be speedy deleted you could write the article up in a text editor then post in Wikipeda. Whispering 13:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I work hard mate. If I did that, my hard drive would be absolutely littered. I like the organisation of Wikipedia. I like submitting short articles to which other editors can contribute straight away. Occasionally, I do put an article in my own userspace before submitting it as an (almost) complete article. But that's not generally how I work. I sometimes make a start to articles I have no intention of completing, if I feel there is a need for them.. and leave it to others to flesh them out. Sometimes, if an article I have created has sat around for weeks without any other additions, I will come back to them and flesh them out myself. I certainly don't expect them to be nominated for deletion two minutes after I have created them! --Mal 13:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Red Branch Knights
I agree with what you said in the discussion part of the Red Branch Knights article.However i couldn't be aresd doing it myself so feel free to do it.Dermo69

Selected articles on Portal:F1
Hello again.

I dropped notes round a while back to those who have listed themselves at WikiProject_Formula_One to ask for suggestions for selected articles on portal:Formula One. There was a pretty good response, both in terms of how it might work and of articles suggested. Damon Hill came out with the most support and was brought up to Good Article standard after a lot of work by Skully Collins and others before going on as the F1 portal selected article a couple of weeks ago. It is now at Featured Article Candidates as a Featured Article candidate (why not drop by and see if you can help polish it further?).

Several people who responded to the original request suggested that a monthly or bi-weekly 'Selected Article' could act as a catalyst for an improvement drive to get more articles up to a higher standard. Although it wasn't quite what I had in mind when I started, this seemed to work pretty well for the Damon Hill article, so I've drafted up a process for doing this more regularly. See Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management_of_selected_articles for details. Essentially the suggestion is that we vote for an article to improve every couple of weeks and at the end of the improvement process the article goes on the portal as the new 'Selected Article'. I'd be grateful for any comments on how this might work - I'm sure some of you are more familiar with things 'Wiki' than me - as well as your votes for the next candidate (by 16 July).

You may also want to help with the article Gilles Villeneuve, which was the next most popular after Damon Hill. The idea is to try and get it up to GA standard by 16 July and then put it on the portal as the 'Selected Article'. I hope you can help! 4u1e 4u1e 17:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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Changing a Beatles article assessment
Hi Mal, nice to see you around. I rolled back your change to Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Beatles articles by quality/1 because that page is created automagically by Mathbot. What you need to do to change a rating is change the grade on the article's talk page and the bot will pick up the change when it runs overnight. Pretty cool, huh? :) Cheers mate. --kingboyk 15:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah right Steve. Sorry. I've not really done much with projects since this new thing got implemented. I still have to work out how to implement it for the NI articles project too. I'll change the rating on the talk page now though. Cheers. --Mal 15:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Do what everyone else has done and pinch the work of Lar and myself! hehe. If you want to keep it simple (no bad thing), my WPKLF template does the basic job with no frills. If you want to be flash, including having comments subpages, WPBeatles is yer man. --kingboyk 16:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Edit: I see you've done it already! :) --Mal 15:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course, think I'm slacking?! :P --kingboyk 16:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Featured portal
In general, the various featured *something* candidate pages work on a basis of all "actionable" objections being met. In effect, if there are any significant objections that aren't resolved, the candidacy will fail.

As far as getting more people to comment: given the small number of people who seem to be active on the portal candidate page, I think that getting more eyes there is a good thing. It's not a straight vote in any case, so there's little chance that this would actually constitute "canvassing for votes". Kirill Lokshin 00:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Just a quick thanks for your reply. I understand a bit more now, and I'm glad there won't be any danger of my having 'biased' a 'vote' in this instance. :) All for the greater good in the end hopefully. Thanks again Kirill. --Mal 21:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Female Model Bio
Hey, I'm looking to update the template you created. Looking for some help. I think some things should be added and some if statements should be thrown in. --Jaysscholar 19:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Not a problem Jaysscholar. I created it, and it was nominated for deletion on the grounds of being a "ridiculous sexist template", for some reason. I created a different template, and that template is no longer in use for any articles that I have edited.


 * See Templates for deletion/Log/2006 February 21 for the discussion on it. --Mal 22:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Northern Irish terrorists
Hi Mal, is Category:Northern Irish terrorists a good idea? Who goes in and who doesn't? I can just imagine the revert wars! Most people like Gray, Davison and whoever else is added to the category will already be in the relevant paramilitary group category - IRA, UDA etc. Given this, is it not better to just categorise individuals under their paramilitary group, and let people make their own decision on their status? Stu  ’Bout ye!  15:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I saw the category 'British terrorists' and thought it was logical to include a separate one for Northern Irish ones, under the British supercategory. Actually, what prompted my creation of the category was the fact that, while looking up the 'pedia for some info, I noticed a few people listed in the 'Northern Irish people' cat, and thought it a bit odd that they (and others in that supercat) weren't sub-cat'ed. As for status .. for the terrorists, there is one category and for suspected or alleged terrorists, there is another one. --Mal 20:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

British Isles
Re British Isles. Where were you this last month, it was heavy at times, with point scoring and pov remarks thrown about like snuff at a wake. I watched it but didn't wade in. Nobody conquered the other side. Last thing that is needed now is some "newcomer" coming in, stiring the shit again. What's your purpose? Why not just put the page on watch, and then respond. No point trying to recreate so called debate again.--86.42.131.215 10:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Firstly, who on Earth are you? If you're referring to me as "some newcomer", I would like to point out to you that I have been part of the debate on the British Isles article for a while now. This last month I have been too busy to contribute to Wikipedia by the way. --Mal 10:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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