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Thanking for Welcome
Thank You very much for your nice Welcome massage.HagiMalachi (talk) 16:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC) Thank You very much for your nice Welcome massage.Shoteh (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad you're here! Also, when you get the chance, check out WikiProject Plants and consider joining us. Rkitko (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Etrog Talk Page
Etrog is not a certain cultivar within citrus medica, but is how the Jews are calling it, according to the special use during Tabernacles. The Greek Citron is actually called variety etrog, but in fact many other varieties ( for e.g. the Diamante) are even preferred by many.Shoteh (talk) 17:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I did a bit of investigating a while ago, but I never got a clear picture of whether it was a cultivar or simply a variety. Either way, the taxobox should be updated to reflect that. Is it Citrus medica var. etrog? Or is it Citrus medica 'Etrog'? Sources were conflicting, though. Something must be done to the taxobox, though, to make it plain and simple to see that it is not Citrus medica. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. So from your info above, Etrog is neither a named cultivar or a published taxon? So then the taxobox should be removed entirely if it's not a taxon. Rkitko (talk) 17:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Rkitko, You are probably right about the matter but I don't find the box which fitt the purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoteh (talk • contribs) 18:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * That's ok. It's not such a big deal. I'm sure it will get fixed some day. You seem to have a good knowledge of the citrons, so I'll leave it in your capable hands! Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I placed an image at Diamante citron and the very important caption doesn't show up. I would appriciate if you can fix it. Shoteh (talk) 20:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. It was just missing the "thumb" parameter from the image link. --Rkitko (talk) 20:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much Shoteh (talk) 20:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. And just to let you know, most people prefer new messages on their talk page to go at the bottom, at least that's the trend I've seen. And you don't need to create a new thread every time. I simply moved all your messages to one of the threads you started at User talk:Rkitko. A minor point, but thought I'd mention it. :-) Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 20:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Please get a translation of the latin text from Giovanni Baptista Ferrari regarding the Diamante citron, as well as the same about the Greek Citron in the following page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoteh (talk • contribs)


 * Hmm, does an official translation of the text exist? Wikipedia prefers official translations. Doing it yourself can be a violation of some policies and guidelines (like no original research - it also isn't very verifiable since your translation may differ from someone else's). Are you asking for help finding such a translation? WikiProject Resource Exchange might be the place to ask for help regarding such a resource. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

High Capacity Files
Hi there! You mentioned on my talk page that you have some computer files which are copies of an "old book not available for sale." It is acceptable to cite books in wikipedia articles. Sources need not be just websites. As long as the book is a reliable source then feel free to go and cite it. The templateCite book is a great way to do this (instructions are on the page). If you need any more help please feel free to post here or on my talk page. Best regards! -- omtay 38  01:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Question
Hello, maybe you are the user with the nickname fr:Utilisateur:Yeshiva witch is creating articles about etrog in the french wikipedia. Anyway i requested the speed delation of those articles cause they were translated automatically. I will try to translate them correctly latter cause they are realy interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimdime69 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not. Thank You for the offer to transelate my articles, your massage sounds like transelated from French.

Shoteh (talk) 22:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well they are translated in my brain from french to english but hopefully I don't need an authomatic translator to do such a thing;) Anyway I do apologize for the mistake and will try to translate those articles asap. Best regards--Kimdime69 (talk) 22:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Please remove those interwiki links, as authomatic translation is not acceptable those articles will be delated in thew minutes, I will add new links when the articles will be recreated and translated correctly. Regards--Kimdime69 (talk) 22:46, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Candied fruit
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My apologies for the misunderstanding I did not see the discussion sorry for your trouble. if you have any more comments you can post them on my talk page Freepsbane (talk) 17:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Deleting pages from Wikipedia:Requested moves
Don't do this again. Llamasharmafarmerdrama (talk) 23:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Talk:Diamante Citron
I would help if I could, but I'm not an admin so I can't do anything about it. I guess you could try using but unless an admin notices it, you won't get what is needed. I think the best solution is to wait longer or ask an admin directly.--Sunny910910 (talk 04:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, not that I know of. You can try my friend User:Seresin and say that I suggested asking you. He's really nice, I'm sure he'll help if he's not busy.--Sunny910910 (talk 23:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Really? I guess it does work sometimes. Well I'm glad it you found what you needed, sorry I couldn't help you on it.--Sunny910910 (talk 19:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Chaim Elozor Wax
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Bizzaria
You removed the category Botany for this article, with the argument that it is too broad, and citrus is enough. This is not true since bizzaria is a historical case in understanding of botany and hybridization, as you can see Charles Darwin and all the genetists were busy with the Bizzaria. In fact, the category Botany is even more important than the category Citrus, and please recorrect yourself. Shoteh (talk) 20:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I stand by my reason. Look at the other articles in . Categorization is supposed to be used as a hierarchy. I don't believe that Bizzaria is a general topic of botany. Categorization is supposed to be as specific as allowed. Bizzaria should not remain in that category. WP:CAT will have the appropriate guidelines for categorization. --Rkitko (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Halichos Sadeh.pdf listed for deletion
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PDF IfD
Firstly, I wasn't aware of the link due to it being in external link format, like this, and not in wikilink format, like this. I fail to see the relevance that the document has to the article [although I cannot read Hebrew, PDF documents are not usually useful]. After all, this is the English Wikipedia; the Hebrew Wikipedia may have more use for it. Regardless, please feel free to make your opinion known on the IfD page. Thanks.  RichardΩ612  Ɣ |ɸ 17:04, May 8, 2008 (UTC)


 * This article is by a high esteemed professor and horticulturist, which is written in Hebrew because the most interested in citron studies are the Hebrew speaking Jews. But when one wants to know anything about the citron which was the ancestor of all the cultivated types he would have no access to it. The English Wikipedia is the first to provide such infomation of which part of it is gathered from Hebrew sources, and was later cited by many other authors and websites. By deleting such a pdf, which is a very important and interesting article, you are decreasing the usefullness of the English Wikipedia, and banging the door for the citrus industry in Wikipedia. Dont do such an evil.

Shoteh (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Greek citron
Good morning. How wide is your browser window? If it's wide enough for the table of contents to fit between the two images, then Greek citron looks OK, although unusual. Make it narrower, and the table of contents either overlaps the first image, or is partly hidden behind the second. I tried it in two different browsers. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I confirm that the picture arrangement is fine now.

You twice removed the copy edit tag without improving the article. Please do not do this; it is a marker to other users of Wikipedia to acknowledge that an article is still a work in progress.

In the case of this article, just looking at the first sentence: I've copy edited the whole of the first paragraph; please let me know whether my changes are acceptable to you. I am willing to go through the rest of the article when I have time; it's what I do best! - Fayenatic (talk) 21:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * the first appearance of the article title should be in bold text according to the Manual of Style;
 * "it's" in line 2 should not have had an apostrophe;
 * there is no such word as "rituali"; and
 * "extraordinary" is one word, not two.

how to flush one of the media in the article to the left, to enhance the graphic layout. Shoteh (talk) 21:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * In the image tag, change the |right to |left. Hope this helps!Gazimoff Write Read 21:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

RfA Review
Hello there and thanks for your recent responses to the questions at User:Shoteh/RfA review. At the moment we're just looking at the process itself and what editors' opinions of the various stages are. We're not looking for recommendations on candidates - it's purely a process review. Please could you have a look over your responses and and update them with your thoughts and opinions on the process only. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, either here or on my talk page. Many thanks for your time and your valuable input. Gazimoff Write Read 20:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

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Old Yishuv
Hi Shoteh, could you come and give your mind here :. Thank you :-) Ceedjee (talk) 11:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Etrog
Please refer to Talk:Etrog. DrorK (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Jewish genetics
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no good reason
There is a very good reason to remove external links from a wikipedia article - wikipedia is not a collection of links. There are probably a thousand pictures of etrogs on the internet - do you plan to provide links to them all? There are also hundreds of sites that sell etrogs - why do you only link to milechai? Please read the wikipedia page on external links. You will see that all of the links I removed fail the test for inclusion, and they all fit the criteria for links to avoid. --Bachrach44 (talk) 12:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Etrog photo used without attribution
Dear Wikipedia There is a photo that appears on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balady_citron

The photo is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Halpern.jpg

I came across this today and to my amazement it is one of my photos being used without attribution. It appears on my web site www.esrogfarm.com

at: www.esrogfarm.com/nggallery/page-19/album-1/gallery-3/

You can see another photo of a similar item taken with the same background. You can use this photo only on condition that you properly attribute it to Zaide Reuven's Esrog Farm, with a clickable link to www.esrogfarm.com. Otherwise you may not use this photo.

David Wiseman Zaide Reuven's Esrog Farm, LLC. www.esrogfarm.com esrog@esrogfarm.com 972 931 5596 972 931 5476 FAX —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.242.70.151 (talk) 21:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Translation of shoteh
Hazal would use the word הדיוט to describes exactly the definitions you qouted for the greek ἰδιώτης, idiōtēs or the latin idiota. This mishnaic hebrew word obviously came from greek along with many others. (see אִידְיוֹט - האקדמיה ללשון העברית (hebrew-academy.org.il)

Shoteh on the other hand refers to someone with mental incapabilities. An idiot would not normally describe someone of this nature. גוי אחד בארץ (talk) 23:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC)