User talk:Soni/Archive 4

Test
Test Ryan Vesey 20:26, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Works perfect Ryan. Thanks. TheOriginalSoni (talk)

test
— Ched : ?  00:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you Ched. As you see above, the test already succeeded. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 00:50, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * At least it went better than my test on ASO's talk.  Zappa  O  Mati   00:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ignatz, it doesnt. Only direct mentions in the page, not in edit summaries. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 05:06, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * User:Dennis Brown, does it come under WP:BEANS if I request someone to reconsider/look into the Echo mentions given the many ways it can be misused? (GoP's talk page was just jokes, but others might not be.) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 05:08, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Some people will just turn off the notification when their name has been used in the preferences. It is actually a handy tool to be notified so I'm likely to keep it active, although the greatest negative side effect is mischief rather than abuse (we already have examples of that).  As for BEANS, I don't think that would apply, for if there are ways to abuse it, they want to know sooner rather than later.  The only downside I see is that people want to use it like a pager instead of putting a TB notice on their talk page, but you don't know if they have that features active in preferences.  The guy who really knows is user:okeyes, who I will be kind enough to NOT page here. Dennis Brown - 2¢  © Join WER 10:45, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * But Dennis, isnt that potential problems you're speaking of? Maybe not most non-solvable of problems, but they do have potential for loads of abuse. I can so well see blocked users immediately using this to raise a horde of supporters/irritate a long list of users (esp admins) who cannot afford to turn it off? It looks dangerously like a supplement to talk and user page vandalism already.
 * P.S. I have no idea what a pager is. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Pager, you young whipper snapper. Any new feature has the potential for abuse, and honestly, the best way to determine the potential is trying it out.  By our very nature, we try things, keep what works and get rid of what doesn't.  It is the wiki way.  Time will tell if this feature stays or goes away.  If a blocked user uses this for canvassing, then they can get their talk page access revoked, or they could implement a feature that would block notification for blocked users.  Trial and error.  Your using it here lets me know when you have replied, making the discussion quicker, so that is an advantage as well.  How much depends on the person doing the paging.  Dennis Brown - 2¢  © Join WER 11:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Thanks for your time Dennis. I understood. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:58, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * LOL What! TOS doesn't have a pager? ZOMG!  Anyways...  I agree that it will likely be abused by people who understand how it works when they are blocked.  Perhaps it should be requested/suggested that ECHO ignore comments by blocked people or that the talk page of a blocked user doesn't trigger the alert? Technical 13 (talk) 11:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * And no. TOS does not have or know what a pager is. He grew up in a time when pagers werent very much in vogue where he lived,T13. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:58, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Awww. Oh, if that was a test linking my name with an alternative text, it worked.  So, you could echo someone else like dick... How abusive that could end up being... Technical 13 (talk) 17:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

You have been blocked forever and ever for paging me non-stop with the new WP:Notifications feature. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may use the same paging feature on every admin in the list WP:List of Admins until one of them takes away your talk page access. ;-) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 17:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

My Afc proposal
Dear TheOriginalSoni:

On the Village Pump proposals page you suggested that I get the scripting done. Do you know how I would go about this? A user called Petrb said that he could work on it if we made up our minds and it didn't take too much time. Also, mabdul, who seems to have some technical knowhow, has made some comments. Should I ask one of them? Although I have done C++, Java and HTML programming, I haven't done any tech stuff on Wikipedia, and I wouldn't want to start on something that could mess up a lot of new users, even if the admins would let me. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 19:31, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That is what sandboxes are for! Technical 13 (talk) 20:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Anne
 * As T13 said here, that's what sandboxes are for. If you plan on giving a hand yourself, you can always start trying at a sandbox, which is cerrtainly safe.
 * But if you want me to suggest someone who can help you (apart from Petrb and mabdul), they will be Technical 13, Writ Keeper, Theopolisme and some imaginary friends I have.
 * And the best thing to do is to ask one (or more) of them, and ask them how they think we should proceed [based on the discussion], and then if they can help in making it.
 * Hope you got what you wanted to ask.
 * TheOriginalSoni (talk) 21:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll see who I can ask. I don't mind admitting that I have no idea how this Wiki works underneath; I've been too busy editing to look.  I understand HTML, and I did a little serverside Java programming, MySQL and C++ stuff some years ago, but I'd be willing to bet that this is considerably different. I know how badly project can go if the designer doesn't know the system well enough. I am looking forward to watching this "thing" being built and seeing the process unfold so that I will have something to emulate in the future, starting small. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 00:52, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was going to write more, but just as I started typing, my bus home showed up and I had to shut down. I'd be happy to help you put together a sandbox and some testcases.  I'm heading to bed for tonight and look forward to seeing what you have in mind exactly in the morning.  Feel free to link my user page, effectively pinging me with echo instead of using a talkback. ;) Technical 13 (talk) 00:58, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * From what I hear Anne, these are the most useful languages here- Php, javascript and python. I dont think java or c++ helps. [I myself know only java - Heart it from other people] TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:23, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I took a course with some PHP, but then never had a use for it, so it fell out the other ear... I do know that knowing one language makes it easier to learn another. Goodnight.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 03:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Feluda Table
Could you help to expand this table User:Titodutta/sandbox1? You can find the list of the stories in the article Feluda.In case you need, I can send you Complete Feluda collection digital copy! --Tito Dutta (contact) 06:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I could, Tito, but I am neither Bengali, nor have read anything about Feluda. So I would not be able to help by any prior knowledge, which I think is why you asked. And thanks for the offer, but my Bengali is rusty enough for me to not be able to enjoy the collection. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Pratyya could help. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * His exam is going on! --Tito Dutta (contact) 06:53, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright. So do you want my help or not? I might not be of good use, but I can try. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Right you are Soni. I know about feluda and I have read most of the stories more than 10 times. Honestly I read them every night. So I can help Tito.-- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 11:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way Soni you know Bengali? Pr at yya  ''' (Hello!) 11:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Pratyya, I live in Kolkata. So I have a passable command of Bengali [enough to read, and say 'Ami Bangla jaani na'] TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:48, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You live in kolkata? How many years? Or from birth?-- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 11:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Was in a nearby town until 6, Pratyya. Been in Kolkata ever since. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Your EotW nomination
Hey Soni. Please fix your nomination at EotW. Ther is no reason stated, no reason given Thanks. ```Buster Seven   Talk  06:15, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Soni. I can't figure out what happened. It looks like you did some testing and forgot to clean up after yourself. The nominees were already u-linked. why test them again? Anyway. V-9 needs some text in order to make it to the Q. ```Buster Seven   Talk  06:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Really sorry Buster. I totally got busy in something else, and forgot about that. Will clean up right now. I had been testing the new notifications to check which of the pages will send a notification to the recipient. So far the only sure thing I've got is that linking to User talk doesnt give any notifications. I think most of the rest of the pages do give it. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 03:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Scheduled tasks
Invitation template has not been prepared yet, manually inviting you to join/check WikiProject Scheduled Tasks --Tito Dutta (contact) 04:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Help
Hi Soni,

I had submitted an article on 'Cullen Investments', which was declined on 17 April 2013. Here's the link for your reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Cullen_Investments

Previously the article was declined on 31 March 2013 due to insufficient references considering which the reference list was updated considerably.

This time the reason for rejection is 'promotional stuff'. I'll be grateful if you can help me with the editing and successful submission of the same article. Additionally it will be good if you can point out a few lines in the article which sounds like promotional stuff.

Thanks Ingoddess2805 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingoddess2805 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Vlaskovits Article
Hi Soni - Trying to see why you question the notability of the person (Patrick Vlaskovits). He is a best selling author and referenced in other Wikipedia articles, including Bob Dorf and Steve Blank.

I reference NY Times, USA Today, university sites, and the Harvard Business Review to name a few. They are extremely reliable sources that reference Mr. Vlaskovits and his book that he authored.


 * Hello Westeros7. This article fails to meet our notability guidelines (per WP:42) and ought to be deleted unless extensive reliable sources can be added. Please comment on the deletion entry of the article if you have something to say. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 03:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Aeroflot Flight 593
is not in agreement with the verifiability policy. I have reverted it.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:17, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I've replied with my rationale on your talk page. Lets keep the discussion at one place. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Got it.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:20, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

A useful tip to fellow editors
Anne and Researcher Q(can I call you RQ?), linking anyone's user page gives them a notification [Because of the new Echo features]. This is a much better way to ensure that the editor you're talking to knows when you reply. I thought this tip would come in handy for both of you, and thought I should inform you. Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 07:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The real question, TheOriginalSoni, is does it echo you twice if your user name is mentioned on your talk page? Technical 13 (talk) 11:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No, and I doubted it would, T13. Even if I say Technical 13 twice, its the same edit I am making. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 12:20, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hrmm... I was just curious if it would register as a talk page post and a mention since the two are supposedly different things. Anyways, good to know. :)  Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 12:26, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Curiosity kills only cats :) And to answer your question, it shows just as a talk page post, T13. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 12:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Delaywaves Infobox
Hey Soni. Why isn't the Userbox showing upon the recepients talk page? Is there still a glitch? Thanks. ```Buster Seven   Talk  12:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey Buster,
 * Thats because the infobox is manually added by one of us (usually me) using the . But I never got to completing it or sending it to Delay. I've been terribly busy these days :|
 * TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought of and investigated doing it myself but the Delaywaves Infobox is no longer on the templta main page so I wasnt sure what to do. Can you recruit someone to cover for you as to implementing the Infobox in a timely fashion if you are too busy?? Thanks!```Buster Seven   Talk  13:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * User:Technical 13, could I interest you in joining over at EotW? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, there is no such problem which you mentioned. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:23, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Give me a link to where you want me to join over at. I'm taking finals this week, but I'll take a look at it.  If it is just a matter of posting a template on a page here or there, that might be okay. Technical 13 (talk) 13:26, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * User:Technical 13, its at WP:EotW. All the details are over there, and fairly self explanatory. Not exactly "just posting a template", but what you need to do will be related to Template:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Project main page. See WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Project main page/sandbox it's sandbox history for an idea of whats the most time-taking part of the entire thing. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * (ec)Thanks Tech 13. The most important feature is that the Infobox appear simultaneoulsly (sp) in many different spots. Soni can tell you where those spots are. ```Buster Seven   Talk  13:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Just three. Its already at WikiProject_Editor_Retention/Editor_of_the_Week, but the main places are 1) The Project main page (also removal from its sandbox) and its subsequest substitution at the recipient's talk page and the hall of fame. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Also pinging User:Amadscientist, User:Isaacl and User:Dennis Brown - Could you PLEASE take over? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Not to forget User:Huon, if the emperor is still listening. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:48, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't help on the technical side, I'm the guy that brings the box of donuts to the user page after all the templates are done. Dennis Brown - 2¢  © Join WER 14:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The work is more about doughnuts than technical, Dennis. The hardest part of it is preparing a good infobox. The rest are simple stuff which i can explain how to do. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Placing the current infobox on the recipient's talk page is as straightforward as awarding a barnstar. Copy  to the recipient's talk page (this instruction is present on Template:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Project main page). Copying the prepared infobox from the sandbox to the "Project main page" page is a bit more tricky, but also straightfoward. Taking the current sandbox as an example:

Dismas
Copy the content from  down to. Note the  is not copied, nor is the heading with the recipient's name. Looking at the current "Project main page":

Paste the copied content between the  and   statements, replacing everything from   up to

Note although I described the easier task first, they should be done in the reverse order: first you update the "Project main page" page, and then you place the infobox on the recipient's talk page. Also, you should remove the draft infobox from the sandbox page, so the next one in line will now be ready at the top of the sandbox page.

Updating the Hall of Fame page is done in the same way as placing the infobox on the recipient's talk page, but for a prettier layout, it is done within a 3-column table, so some attention has to be paid to that. If I get the chance, I'll describe that too. isaacl (talk) 15:26, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * isaacl, cant you please do it? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I did it. ✅Thanks Isaac. ```Buster Seven   Talk  16:48, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant update future infoboxes. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If Isaac wanted to do it he would have done it already. I'll take on the task until someone else is willing to do it. No prob. ```Buster Seven   Talk  17:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added Delaywaves to the Hall of Fame, but this is outside my usual pastures, and I'd prefer if the WikiProject members could manage without my help. Huon (talk) 20:12, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there A priority rush on this? If I can have 2-3 weeks, I can write you a user script to do what you described above i think. Technical 13 (talk) 21:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

The infoboxes in WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Hall of Fame are placed within a 3-column table. Here is an example of the markup for a 3-column table, with placeholder text instead of the infoboxes: which looks like:

So if the current row has fewer than 3 columns, add a new column with the new infobox. Let's say the Hall of fame currently has 4 infoboxes: Here's how the 5th infobox is added: If the current row already has 3 columns: Here's what the table looks like with a new row added and the current infobox substituted into the first column of the new row:

So as long as the next infobox is prepared ahead of time in the sandbox, copying it to the "Project main page" page, and then placing it on the recipient's talk page and the Hall of Fame page is a mechanical task. As TheOriginalSoni said, preparing the draft infobox is what takes some thought and time. isaacl (talk) 02:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Huon, thanks anyways. T13, I don't think a script is very much required, than preparing those infoboxes for the editors. But you're free to help around :) Dennis, do tell if you think you can help in this task. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:11, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

ITN credit
ThaddeusB (talk) 01:04, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion notice
You participated in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people) so I thought you might want to comment at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix
I have no idea what you did, but I'm sure it was useful. :) Many thanks, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:01, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah. Anna Frodesiak, If you notice, that box was not what we initially gave you. Thats because it wasnt substituted, and changed every time anyone changed the original template. This could break the box later on as our parameters changed, so I substed it to make sure it stays like that forever :) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That makes perfect sense, and I will keep it forever. Thank you. :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Reporting for 3RR
Now we got him on 3RR. Brilliant. Reporting him on the noticeboard. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 06:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I doubt that will be really necessary. SPI should bring up a lot of interesting stuff on him, NorthBySouthBaranof TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:38, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You're probably right, but might as well. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 06:45, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright. That sounds fine, N/SB. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

ANI
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Please check Reddit PM. This is urgent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlmostGrad (talk • contribs) 19:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank You
From One Mad Scientist to Another

I'am a vegetarian (since 14) Tiger bull who loves lassies (esp Mango) and vegetarian Indian food. We Have a place here, Luckily for me, called Annalakshmi, in Perth, One of the only places I can eat at here (http://www.annalakshmi.com.au/) One of my long time friends, they Are. ONEMADSCIENTIST --175.38.161.131 (talk) 11:31, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk page stalkers
Attention all talk page stalkers,

I wont be here for the next few days at all, and I am hoping there just arent too many notifications for me when I come back. I hope my TPS will take care of any of the important issues that come up in the meanwhile.

Thanks, A seriously late editor, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * What TPS? Technical 13 (talk) 18:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposal at TAFI talk
A discussion that may interest you is occurring at Wikiproject TAFI's talk page at: Proposal: use Theo's Little Bot to automate the schedule and queue. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Personal information
I appreciate the advice, Soni, but I had a specific reason to mention that while trying to calm a dispute. Some editors choose to remain anonymous. I don't. I am self employed and have a website with lots of information about me. So anyone can track me down. That's my decision and it works fine for me. If I ever decide to work on highly controversial topics, I will register an alternate account.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  15:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah. That makes sense. I thought that I should give you a cursory warning just in case. And I too got the specific reason to mention that. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It is nice to know that other editors, including you, are looking out for my best interests, such as reverting vandalism on my talk page while I am away. You are always welcome on my talk page.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  16:46, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Awww!! I have amazing friends!!! :) luv u guys!! <span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive"> Miss Bono   (zootalk)  17:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Online Friends
Of course you are in one of the first places, :D<span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive"> Miss Bono   (zootalk)  12:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Gracias :D I hope you know I was joking. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 12:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I figured it out, but it's good for you to know that you are a very dear friend as well as Pjoef, Cullen328, Technical 13, FoCuSandLeArN, You Can Act Like A Man, Theroadislong, Wasted Time R, and all of you that have helped me when I was completely lost around here. So thank you very much. (There are many Users, so if I missed someone, please, feel free to add to the list) <span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive">  Miss Bono   (zootalk)  13:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Pffft... I see where I rate on the list... J/K. Technical 13 (talk) 13:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, The list doesn't follow an especific order ;)<span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive"> Miss Bono   (zootalk)  14:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops! i missed Anna Frodesiak‎ <span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive"> Miss Bono   (zootalk)  14:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * And Moxy‎<span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive"> Miss Bono   (zootalk)  15:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to WDL!
Hey TOS! I'm so happy to see you signed up to join the project - welcome. You can dive into our to-do lists here. Be sure to watchlist your favorites, as they will continue to grow as new content gets added to the WDL website. Also, you can always search the WDL website for something that you're interested in. And be sure to share your outcomes here. If I can help with anything just ask and welcome aboard! SarahStierch (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello. :) I'll look into those archives as soon as I edit articles in depth. But I think you might want to stalk and invite the most active members working on Culture and History (A look into those WikiProjects maybe?) and see who can help. I've already invited Sitush myself.
 * I also wanted to know whether these are the only sources that are going online, or more are to follow? A basic glance showed me that there was quite a less number of them. (Or did I miss something somewhere?)
 * Thanks, and cheers,
 * TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:47, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I am in the process of actually inviting people from various projects! So thanks for the suggestion - great minds think alike. If you visit http://www.wdl.org you'll find thousands of pages of content. Many of the pages have hundreds of documents/manuscripts/images related to them. So there is plenty to dive into. SarahStierch (talk) 17:48, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey Soni!
How you doing friend, long time no see...<span style="font-family:'Domestic Manners',cursive"> Miss Bono   (zootalk)  18:04, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I told you I would not be coming online for long these few days :) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 05:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Northamerica1000(talk) 10:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you a lot for this barnstar. I'll keep it safe! :) I hope you'll stay here for a long time now! :) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Friends with <@TOS> = Yes I hope to be. Thank you!--OneMadScientist (talk) 11:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC) of

Hey TOS I would like your advice (no hurry) on some info about Asafoetida (Hing) (medicinal properties) I would like to put in the article. (see my talk page its there) I thought you may have some good perspective to offer on the subject :-)--OneMadScientist (talk) 14:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response and good advice TOS (I know you must be busy with exams). The only bit I'am not practically 100% sure about really is ( "I believe this property is not much researched in the west or the compound responsible for this known"). I just thought that you being from India and all :-)... I will do some more research and see what I can come up with. Thanks, and all the best for your exams TOS (over and out)--OneMadScientist (talk) 13:18, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for introducing me to Miss Bono TOS and I Hope you don't mind if I bug you again by asking for your opinion/advice on the wording and references etc (I have found some), when I'm finished getting it together, on the Hing opiate antagonist properties info (its not too easy to find and I'm 'just a bit' lazy and easily distracted). Or you could point me in some other direction and give me a push :-) that's cool to. (over and out)--OneMadScientist (talk) 11:26, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem mate. :)
 * You could look at WP:TAFI if you think you might be helpful at article creation. Or you can tell me which topics interest you exactly, and what work you do best, and I could help find you places where your help could be required most. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:56, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

No, what I mean TOS is, things like 'How do you provide a reference for a lack of information' like when I say ( "I believe this property is not much researched in the west or the compound responsible for this known") maybe I should just leave that bit out (But I think that is an important point as I think it needs further research etc) and so fourth. And as for references the best I could find so far is pasted on my talk page. And when I said point me in another direction I meant for advice on this specific issue :-)--OneMadScientist (talk) 13:36, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Just to make my self clear TOS I'm only interested in what I'm interested in and only here for "selfish reasons". :-) --OneMadScientist (talk) 13:50, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Compared to you TOS I think my Heart is constructed of something more along the lines of Bronze.--OneMadScientist (talk) 14:14, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Possibly iron pyrite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OneMadScientist (talk • contribs) 16:24, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * If the missing reference is really obvious (Like dozens of news channels speaking of Arab Spring, but none of them being from the Middle east), then just add that "The issue has not been discussed in xyz sources". But leaving them out is the way to go, unless you think its uncontroversial/ can be supported by sources easily if someone else tries to find them.
 * No worries if you arent here for all the articles ;) As long as you aren't going anywhere, its fine. :) Also, I never had a liking for over-inert metals. Molybdenum is a lot more fascinating. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 02:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Molybdenum! I wouldn't even dare to try to say that word!:-( OneMadScientist (talk) 10:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

So TOS. Now I have one good (2012) medical!? ref saying asafoetida has opiate antagonist properties (in the intro but no actual research). (its on my talk page).

And I now also have a good (2012) medical/chemical ref saying "natural occurring opioid antagonists are nonexistent" in the intro (again). http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmc/2012/715123/

And I have NOW also just found THIS (from 2011) - (while googling - naturaly occuring opioid antagonists) --> "It is not widely known, but coffee - decaf and decaffeinated, instant, brewed and espresso - contains compounds such as 4-Caffeoyl-1, 5-quinide (AKA 4-Caffeoylquinide or 4-CQL) which have a high affinity for the mu opioid receptor. These compounds do not activate the receptor.  They prevent it being occupied and activated by endogenous opioids (produced naturally by the body) or by exogenous opioids, such as morphine.  These compounds are mu opioid receptor antagonists and are unrelated to caffeine." http://aminotheory.com/coffee/

BTW I've got nothing against a bit of controversy. OneMadScientist (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2013 (UTC)