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DYK nomination of Church of St Thomas the Apostle, Killinghall
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 * Done. Storye book (talk) 22:51, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Church of St Mark, Old Leeds Road
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DYK for Church of St Thomas the Apostle, Killinghall
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016
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DYK for Church of St Mark, Old Leeds Road
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DYK for Robert Alfred Humble
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DYK for Joseph Miller (priest)
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DYK for Jonas Pilling
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Aleksandrov BA.jpg


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And also: Sealle (talk) 13:54, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * All done. Mostly changed to fair use licence. Some to be deleted as per my requent. Storye book (talk) 16:46, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Eastern Road, Brighton
Hi – good to hear from you! I'm sorry to say that the Deaf and Dumb Institution buildings were among the many that were demolished in this area in the 1960s and 1970s. (This part of Brighton has probably seen more "urban renewal" than any other: it continues right up to the present day, as I discovered recently when a pub of 18th-century origin which I had photographed in 2010 had been demolished almost overnight and replaced by flats! This was about 200 yards away from the Institution...)  Historically, Eastern Road was very much an area of institutional buildings: lots of schools, medical buildings, parish rooms, lecture rooms and so on. This building was arguably the best, but it has long vanished.

The Deaf and Dumb Institution buildings were on the south side of the road, in the "block" between College Road and College Place, directly opposite the main buildings of Brighton College. Approximate coordinates are 50.8201, -0.1221. Sources vary on when exactly in the 1970s they were demolished. These two photos from the James Gray Collection (an important source of historical images of Brighton and Hove) were said to be taken in 1973, just before demolition "in early 1974". The New Encyclopaedia of Brighton (2010) p108 states: "The Deaf and Dumb Institution was established in 1840 in St James's Sunday School Room [close to the former St James's Chapel on St James's Street, further to the west]. It moved to 12 Egremont Place in 1842 [a bit further east].  The school moved to a new building in Eastern Road, designed by Cheesmans, in 1848, with a new wing added in 1854.  From 1945 the building was used by Brighton College Junior School until it was demolished in 1971, initially for road widening but later replaced by Danny Sheldon House". I'm prepared to accept the later date of demolition as per the James Gray Collection, even though I know most of the Eastern Road redevelopment scheme was largely completed by 1971. (WP:OR observation: in the 1960s, Brighton Borough Council wanted to improve the main roads into Brighton, and from the east there were only two possible routes: the coast road (Marine Parade) or Eastern Road. Marine Parade was constrained by the cliff edge on one side and high-quality residential buildings on the other; the Eastern Road area was characterised by slum housing in very poor condition.  Accordingly it was decided that Eastern Road would be turned into a wide dual carriageway as part of a major slum clearance programme (which had in fact started on a limited scale before WWII).  By 1971 about half the length of the road had been dualled, but the work then fizzled out and the dual carriageway petered out just by where the old Kemp Town railway station was, now occupied by a bingo hall and industrial estate.  The clearance of old buildings further east of this, including the Deaf and Dumb Institution, continued anyway, presumably on the assumption that the road widening would resume at some point. It never has done, and the southern side of the road now has a sequence of 1980s low-rise housing association blocks, of which Danny Sheldon House is one.) I've done a lot of photography in this part of Brighton over the years, so I've probably got some pics of Danny Sheldon House somewhere in my unsorted backlog!

Anyway, the Institution continued after 1945: in 1947 or 1948 it bought Ovingdean Hall in Ovingdean, a Grade II-listed house of the late 18th century which had been used as a school in various forms since the late 19th century. This then became Ovingdean Hall School, which only closed quite recently.

Regarding "Cheesmans": this presumably refers to G. Cheesman and Son, a fairly prolific firm of architects and builders in mid-19th-century Brighton. They did a lot of work for Henry Michell Wagner when he was Vicar of Brighton. Most of their work was fairly dull Gothic Revival (e.g. St Mark's Church, Brighton, a few hundred yards from the Institution, and Church of St John sub Castro, Lewes). The buildings shown in the James Gray Collection pictures are nice examples of the fairly generic "mid-19th-century Brighton" style; not quite what I'd expect from those architects! I expect they would now be Grade II-listed had they survived. Incidentally the shorter bay-windowed buildings visible on the right-hand side of both photos I've linked above do survive; they are numbered as part of College Road.

I haven't come across any suitably licenced pictures of the buildings; I suspect the James Gray pictures might be the only ones in existence. I will of course keep an eye out though. Let me know when you've written the article in case I can add any info from my various Brighton books and resources. Cheers, Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  23:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Wow - thank you so much for all that! I do hope that sometime you or someone else can create an article on the Institution.  It was a mixed bag: much needed, best intentions, some very good staff, good solid building near the sea and away from industrial smoke, but carried on under difficult conditions. From the WP:OR impression I've got from research so far, many kids were (effectively) orphaned so were stuck there, and the school was probably only supplying some of the children with the same level of education that was then available to hearing scholars, although the level of literacy achieved by some was very good. In the national cultural background there was an indifference to deafness which made it difficult to get sponsorship, and throughout the latter part of the C19 there was the growing rumble of the eugenics movement, which of course didn't want to actually kill anybody, but they would really rather that some groups didn't breed. Hard to imagine today, eh.


 * Thank you very much for the image links - those will be very useful in the refs. I did find a couple of Edwardian postcards of Eastern Road, which I added to Category:Eastern Road, Kemptown. If I find any other old ones, I'll put them in there.


 * By the way, I created the Eastern Road, Kemptown category, but I think maybe the hospital pix should go in a sub-category, however I left that alone for the locals to sort out - over to you on that one!


 * Yes I'll let you know when I publish - thanks so much for the support. Storye book (talk) 11:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link to the article; very interesting. There may be enough material out there for an article on the Institution; unfortunately I can't view the Sussex Deaf History website (ref [23] in the article) here at work as it's blocked, but I'll have a look later and see what it has.  One to add to my list of Brighton building articles to write!  Thanks for creating the category: I have been meaning to get round to create some for the major roads of Brighton and Hove.  I will probably do it when I get round to uploading some of my backlog of photos.  It's difficult to keep up with all the things that "need" doing!  By the way I liked the old pictures of Eastern Road – they were taken from the corner of College Place looking east, and the scene is basically identical today.  Those villas on the left are still there, in particular.   Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  13:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh goody, I'm glad that you might one day do the Institution. I'm guessing there is a heck of a lot of valuable local social history there. I suppose it was built on the typical asylum/orphanage plan, with big dormitories, since it held 80-90 kids when Pearce was an inmate. Poor little children, dumped there at age five by parents who couldn't or wouldn't cope, and who didn't all stay in touch, - as we know, the Institution didn't know half of their towns of birth. It would be nice to think that there was a garden for them, and that they were taken to the beach. I suspect that it was actually a good place for those days. So good luck, and power to you! Storye book (talk) 16:56, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello again. As the sun was out briefly yesterday, I had the chance to take some photos in the Eastern Road area.  I was pleased to see that on the side of Danny Sheldon House, there is a blue plaque which mentions the Institution.  I will upload an image sometime soon, when I have sorted all the pictures out.  The plaque reads: "City of Brighton & Hove / Brighton Institution for the Deaf and Dumb / On this site stood the first school in Sussex for the education of the deaf and dumb / 1848-1941".   Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  15:22, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * thx, fantastic. i look forward to seeing pics. sadly i have broken bones and must take wikibreak, but please post link for images when available. happy xmas. Storye book (talk) 16:47, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016
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William Walsh (bishop of Dover)
Just added a couple of items to William Walsh article. Hope it is OK with you. Ted Sidpickle (talk) 12:21, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Excellent! If you want to add more details, there should be a paragraph on him in Crockford's Clerical Directory. Also, the online collections of C19 newspapers should bring out a few stories about him. A quick Google finds him consecrating a couple of churches. I bet there's loads in Canterbury Cathedral Archives. There might be enough there for a 5x expansion for DYK if you feel inclined? Storye book (talk) 13:08, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, always a bit nervous when cross editing someone else's work just in case they take it the wrong way. Agree there is a lot more to Walsh; he spent some time in Rome as a chaplain to the embassy and it appears he may have been a student there, see National Archive. One of his sons also moved to Rome and died there, see William Trevor Hayes Walsh.  I was interested in one of his uncles John Prendergast Walsh and wrote an article about him then found the connection to Bishop Walsh when checking Burke's Landed Gentry. The men in the Walsh family were either military or clergymen and the women tended to marry military men. Sidpickle (talk) 14:27, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries - good luck with it. Just let me know if there's anything I can contribute.  Cheers. Storye book (talk) 16:43, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello again. I updated William Walsh (bishop of Dover) as best I can.  I took your advice and referred to Crockford's although not the easiest reference to understand!  Please amend or edit article as I expect it needs to be tidied up a bit. Ted Sidpickle (talk) 09:57, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Good work - it's now suitably expanded five times since 7 Feb, so you can enter it for DYK if you wish. With that in mind, I've filled in the infobox gaps, and generally Wikified the main text. Hope that's OK. The cyclone would make a good hook. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. If you're going to do a DYK you will need to do it within the next few days so as not to miss the deadline. Storye book (talk) 11:33, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure what DYK is? Sidpickle (talk) 11:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * See the Did You Know section on the Main Page. The rules for DYK are here. To nominate an article, go here: Template talk:Did you know. If you need any assistance with the nomination procedure, please let me know. Storye book (talk)
 * Hello, thanks for the update. Sorry but I did not get round to DYK but will be interested to see what happens next Sidpickle (talk) 20:44, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Enjoy! Storye book (talk) 11:09, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for update today Sidpickle (talk) 14:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Storye book (talk) 15:43, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for update.Sidpickle (talk) 09:27, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for William Walsh (bishop of Dover)
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