User talk:The Bushranger/Archive27

Deletion review for Kelle Roos
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kelle Roos. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 92.18.202.2 (talk) 18:20, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election
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Removal of headers
BR, User:Sasabune has been removing valid headers such as Refimprove from several articles without explanation, even after I restored them. I've warned them once, but it was deleted. Can you look into this? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:52, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've given a Last and Final Warning. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:37, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ...and seeing as he's now editing logged out as 2001:708:30:1440:3572:FFA1:5F22:B3F7, blocked 24h. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:41, 25 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Very odd behavior. - BilCat (talk) 03:50, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Given his editing history, I almost wonder if the account has been compromised. If he returns to the disruption when the block expires it'll likely be indef time. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Soviet missile renames
Hello. I notice you have renamed many Soviet missile pages to their manufacturer designations, with an edit comment that there had been a discussion. The discussion at the WPMILHIST talk page seemed to have the opposite consensus (use NATO designations), so I'm wondering if there was another discussion somewhere. ( Hohum  @ ) 11:48, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It was here. IMHO the NATO names are still preferable, but it's not worth raising a kerfuffle over, hence my reverting them. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I thought there would be some spirited opinions about moving those ;) ( Hohum  @ ) 01:33, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Dustin Jacoby
You deleted his profile and now he is notable by fighting his third MMA top tier fight. So please restore his article. (Master Sun Tzu Talk) 15:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've restored the article to your userspace here, so that you can update and clean up the article before it goes back into articlespace. Good luck! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

The Center Line: Summer 2014

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Camping World 500
Looks like Phoenix changed their spring race name (again), this time to Camping World 500. seemed to do a cut/paste move instead of a regular move, so I think it's time for you to use your divine power of adminship to histmerge them.  Zappa  24  Mati   00:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ - The Bushranger One ping only 00:55, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

User:Nomian/Bangladesh–Slovakia relations
Hello, can you please have a look at the draft? It was recently deleted via an AfD and I have significantly expanded it since then. I believe it meets the general notability guidelines but the closing admin told me to have it checked by an admin before moving to the mainspace. Regards Nomian (talk) 17:19, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Informative too.  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:29, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, then Should I move it to the mainspace? Nomian (talk) 17:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks alright to me, although I would caution that there are those who simply believe this topic as a whole is unnotable, so look out for them. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:59, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I think I will have better argument this time if they put it up for deletion again. Nomian (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Dear Bushranger, the closing admin again deleted it stating that I need an explicit approval. Do you have any objection if it is moved to the mainspace? Nomian (talk) 14:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Apologies, Bushranger. Nomian had posted on my talk page (as closing admin) and I was unaware of them posting here, too. Do you think this is sufficiently different from the version deleted after AfD? The added reference is very much like those criticized during the AfD. --Randykitty (talk) 16:02, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * IMHO, it should be good enough, however my position on this sort of article is pretty much the exact opposite of those criticising, so the appropriate grains of salt may be necessary. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Restore logo
BR, could you please restore File:EADS2010.png? It's to be used in the restored EADS article Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 22:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ - The Bushranger One ping only 00:00, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll update the Fair use if the EADS article is deleted again. - BilCat (talk) 00:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Closing Community Sanctions re - Krzyhorse22
Hi - I think the community sanctions request re Krzyhorse22 is closeable with consensus only for him to stop templating StanTheMan87's talk page and claiming he's consulting with the CIA (there doesn't appear to be consensus for a total IBAN). Would it be possible you could close it as such? I've just had an ANI opened against myself today so I think it would look bad if I was closing ANIs while I'm, simultaneously, being investigated. Best - DocumentError (talk) 01:14, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry I missed this - been busy lately. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:30, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

policy questions
I was looking at the AfD discussion at Articles for deletion/List of Australian heavyweight boxing champions and saw several keep arguments that seem like a misinterpretation to me--WP:IMPERFECT and WP:NOEFFORT. I thought I understood when those are applicable, but they're being used as reasons to keep the aforementioned article--which is one I would have thought of as an obvious delete. I'm hoping you can explain what I'm missing in this discussion. Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 20:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look, thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:31, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

The Star-Spangled Banner
BR, would you look at semi-protecting The Star-Spangled Banner, or possibly adding PC1? The article is a frequent target of IP vandalism. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 17:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've had a busy week. All better now, or does it still need it? - The Bushranger One ping only 21:49, 10 October 2014 (UTC)


 * It got hit again yesterday, take a look at the history and see what you think. - BilCat (talk) 23:32, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Sticking Forks in FLOW
No, not that Flo, as fun as that might be! Given the Foundation's intention to shove FLOW onto WP, I'm anticipating a mass exodus by many disillusioned editors. I just might be one of them, depending on how bad FLOW really is. In thinking about it, I'm hoping that this might finally be what gets some viable forks of WP started. Have you heard of anything like that yet? I haven't. - BilCat (talk) 18:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I haven't heard a thing. I'm not planning on any exodus; frankly, the instiutional inertia is such that there is, and will only be, Wikipedia as viable. Most of the "I'm leaving" talk is just that - it'll boil back down to grumbling and complaning at a low boil, just as with VisualEditor and all the other stuff the WMF decides father-mother knows best. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:48, 10 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, you're probably right, but one can still hope! It's just becoming more and more apparent that WMF really doesn't care what the editors think, and I just wonder how long that can go on without reaching a breaking point. The one-day-a-week boycotts are just silly, as many editors don't edit every day anyway, as with your time off this week. - BilCat (talk) 23:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Category:Great Medal of the Aéro-Club de France winners
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User needs "help"
BR, would you look at User:Boomclap? I'm not sure if it's meant as a joke or what, but we do have solutions for sock-puppeteers, as User:JacksonRiley found out today. Cheers. - BilCat (talk) 21:07, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Never mind, he found out out after "blocking" an admin, User:DMacks! - BilCat (talk) 21:15, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * indeed! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:53, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I see you found his other sock! Ay-yi-yi indeed! - BilCat (talk)

The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014
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Fuzhou Airlines
Hello there. I started Fuzhou Airlines back in March 2014. It was deleted because they hadn't actually flown yet.

You closed Fuzhou Airlines (2nd nomination) per WP:CRYSTAL stating "...No prejudice against recreation/undeletion if/when WP:CRYSTAL no longer applies. ...".

Their maiden flight is scheduled for October 30, 2014. If the flight happens as scheduled, would it be okay for me to recreate the article? The new draft is at User:Anna Frodesiak/Orange sandbox and the non-free logo is on my computer ready for upload.

Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:08, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Update
You've been gone for days, so I just went ahead and started it. They had their maiden flight, so are officially a proper airline. I figure that someone else will start it any day now either way. Best if I start it, so if there are objections, I can blank it and delete it with no hard feelings to another, possibly new editor. Please forgive me if I have done something inappropriate. Just trying to make product while complying with your AfD condition. Best wishes. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My apologies for the absence; I've been occupied with RL stuff and then being sick. Looks good from here, I think. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. Hope you get well soon, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:04, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Question about Les Invasions barbares
Doesn't a film that originated in French retain its French name, i.e. Les Invasions barbares? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:37, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe that it should, yes. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:57, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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AfD question
I am a bit confused by the closure at Articles for deletion/Elton Dharry. It was not done by an admin but was closed as "no consensus" although no one had voted to keep it (or even argued for it to be kept). Granted only two people voted, but they did both advocate deletion. I didn't vote, but I was wondering if you think that was a proper closure. Thanks. By the way, I also posted this question on Dennis Brown's talk page in hopes of getting a quick answer. Papaursa (talk) 03:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd say that probably should have been a WP:SOFTDELETE - and should certainly have been closed by an admin. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:05, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

A new type of spam
User:Gar Simers sole contributions appear to attempts to sell his web domain to CST-100! I've warned them for spamming, but I may be misreading the situation. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's bizzare. And it does indeed look like he's "parked" a domain and wants to cash in (the Google search for the domain name shows a summary (by no means am I actually clicking on the thing) that indicates whoever has it wants to sell it for $1.9mil! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:45, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Very bizzare. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 13:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * (Page stalker) Just for the record I downloaded www.CST-100.com with wget and then opened it in jEdit, which renders the page safe and it just seems to be a placeholder page indicating the domain is for sale. There is javascript on the page, though. - Ahunt (talk) 13:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIV, November 2014
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EQT
Today, I looked up this article and its history and noticed that you had blocked the corporation back in January 2012. I was curious that there was so little information on the Mountain Valley Pipeline. I was about to add something when I saw that an ip only user had deleted a great deal of information this month, not only on the pipeline, but a whole section on legal problems and a reference to environmental problems in PA. I am suspicious that the corporation may be editing again, because of the nature of the wholesale deletions and the location of the IP in Pittsburgh PA, home of the corporate offices. http://www.iplocationtools.com/108.32.74.82.html https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EQT&diff=632904766&oldid=631979273 How should I proceed? If you deem it correct to block this IP and reverse the deletions, I'll be glad to edit for any POV problems and make sure to include not just the website for the opposition to the pipeline, but also for EQT's side (http://mountainvalleypipeline.info/), but it seems to me that this won't be sufficient without monitoring for future such deletions. I'll also cc Rich Farmbrough, as he's the editor I've been dealing with long term. Many thanks!--Beth Wellington (talk) 21:19, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

BTW, in looking up the IP for the editor who added the material, it was a workstation at Virginia Tech, rather than a home computer, so I don't know any way to request that the anonymous user sign up for an account, but I can post something to the facebook account for the opposition account, if that seems proper.--Beth Wellington (talk) 21:36, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well spotted. I have left a friendly note for the IP in question, and added the article to my watchlist. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC).


 * Thanks Rich. The watchlist will take care of any further problems, but what should I do about restoring the deleted material (and editing for POV)? I know one of the two conveners of the Facebook group about the pipeline, a professional soil scientist who lives a distance from Blacksburg, so I doubt he's the original author of the deleted material, but he should be able to give me sources for any claims that are unsupported and I'll explain POV to him and urge that folks editing the article to include the opposition sign up for an account so they can be accountable (unlike EQT, if it's the source for the deletion.)--Beth Wellington (talk) 23:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Use your discretion on editing the article, I have faith in you.  Sourcing and NPOV with a little WP:COI and WP:UNDUE are likely to be the watchwords for this article.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:36, 20 November 2014 (UTC).


 * Oh and no need to CC me, if I get a ping (as I have for these two) I will check it out. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:38, 20 November 2014 (UTC).


 * Thanks, Rich! Good advice, as always.  --Beth Wellington (talk) 23:59, 20 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking care of this Rich. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 21:43, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Gloria Gifford
Hi I was writing you to ask why you deleted the page for Gloria Gifford and if you could please put it back up since it was a soft delete. You deleted it in April 2014. Please let me know thank yo so much and can you tell me why you deleted it. Allaboutevetm (talk) 07:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi is there any way you can put this page back up please. It seems it was deleted for lack of records BUT She is a well known actress in Hollywood you can go to www.imdb.com or the Gloriagiffordconservatory.com or to her facebook page. It is well documented. please put this page back up and we will fix with more references. I work for her. PLEASE RESPOND. Thank you. Below are the sites you can check to confirm she is legitimate. Even on Wikipedia she is on the film sites of movies she has done. THIS PAGE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DELETED THE SITES TO FIND WHO SHE IS ARE ENDLESS. IF YOU GIVE US A CHANCE WE CAN INCLUDE THEM IF YOU PUT THE PAGE BACK UP PLEASE. I have included just a few sites below to prove the point.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0317524/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

www.gloriagiffordconservatory.com

https://www.facebook.com/GloriaGiffordConservatory

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY06JxKbmsc

http://ibdb.com/person.php?id=91824

http://halloweenmovies.com/halloween-ii-interviews-gloria-gifford/

www.tvguide.com/celebrities/gloria-gifford/238407‎

http://tolucantimes.info/one-on-one/one-on-one-with-gloria-gifford/

http://halloweenmovie.wikia.com/wiki/Gloria_Gifford

https://gloriagifford.pivotshare.com/‎

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_II_(1981_film)#Cast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Suite_(film)#Cast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Berserk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Spinal_Tap#Cast

www.broadwayworld.com/people/Gloria-Gifford/‎

http://vimeo.com/107508853

http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=6527

www.performingartslive.com/.../TU-Studios-William-Shakespeares-The- Tempest-822014‎

Please can you let me know you responded on my talk page. Or I can give you my email to discuss further. I am new to this and I do not know how to use WIki talk very well Allaboutevetm (talk) 20:14, 21 November 2014 (UTC) '''


 * I've replied at WP:REFUND. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:49, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Attack page
BR or TPS, please look at User:TheAirplaneGuy, which appears to contain personal attacks on editors. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 11:06, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I looks like the offender saw my "complaint" here, and he's removed the offending comments. - BilCat (talk) 14:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

NASCAR featured list?
Did you notice that I started at thread at WikiProject NASCAR to see if anyone was interested in a collaboration with improving one of the lists to a featured list? I thought you'd probably be the first one interested. Your experience with having accomplished a featured list would be valuable. Of course I know this is a volunteer activity so I'm not trying to push you to do something that you don't want to do. You can respond (or not) if you want on your talk page. Cheers!  Royal broil  14:36, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

another AfD question
I have another question about an AfD for you. I see the discussion at Articles for deletion/Cristian Favela was closed as a "no consensus" by a non-admin. This follows on my question last week about the AfD on Elton Dharry (see User Talk:The Bushranger/Archive27). "No consensus" may have been the right decision, but aren't non-admin closures only supposed to be for non-controversial decisions? This one, which I did participate in, doesn't seem non-controversial. Or am I mistaken about the nature of non-admin closures? I've been on WP for years, but I still feel like a newbie in many ways. Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 18:52, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Missing some team names
Hello Bushranger.

I recently added Nascar Results tables to pages of quite some drivers. I could not find al the team names and these drivers are missing some team names: Carl Long, Dave Marcis, Mike Harmon and Joe ruttman. I also had a look at Morgan Shepherd's Nationwide Table and the team names I added to 2001 and 2003 are wrong. Perhaps you can find some of the team names? Jahn1234567890 (talk) 23:29, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the long delay. I'll try to see what I can do when I get a chance. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:42, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

NASCAR featured list?
Did you notice that I started at thread at WikiProject NASCAR to see if anyone was interested in a collaboration with improving one of the lists to a featured list? I thought you'd probably be the first one interested. Your experience with having accomplished a featured list would be valuable. Of course I know this is a volunteer activity so I'm not trying to push you to do something that you don't want to do. You can respond (or not) if you want on your talk page. Cheers!  Royal broil  14:36, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunatly I've been busy with non-Wikipedia stuff lately, but I'll take a look when I get a chance. Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 09:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

another AfD question
I have another question about an AfD for you. I see the discussion at Articles for deletion/Cristian Favela was closed as a "no consensus" by a non-admin. This follows on my question last week about the AfD on Elton Dharry (see User Talk:The Bushranger/Archive27). "No consensus" may have been the right decision, but aren't non-admin closures only supposed to be for non-controversial decisions? This one, which I did participate in, doesn't seem non-controversial. Or am I mistaken about the nature of non-admin closures? I've been on WP for years, but I still feel like a newbie in many ways. Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 18:52, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd say that while some can be non-controversial, a no-consensus closure shouldn't be made by a non-admin, because those can get mighty sticky. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:56, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

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Need some help here
Hi B, calling upon you again, Obi Wan Kinobi, as I have a follower who seems to want to remove imagery from films that I edit under the same even though I do not pick out frivolous or fluff images to illustrate key section of the film articles that I work up. As you may know, I am a former filmmaker, and have an interest in particular areas of film production, so I do not create trivial commentary or provide useless imagery. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 05:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm. I'm honestly not sure what can be done here, unfortunatly - we have the usual "strictist" intrepretation of the NFCC guidelines, and alas many of the folks who hold those positions will hold them through Hades and high water. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Over categorization of Soviet battlecruisers
If I remember correctly, you do a lot with categories and I'd like to solicit your opinion about some ship cats.

Recently a user added Category:Kronshtadt-class battlecruisers to match Category:Stalingrad-class battlecruisers, but the problem is that both categories only have one legitimate article as none of the ships were finished. So I see no need for either category as the class articles should be added directly to Category:World War II battlecruisers of the Soviet Union or Category:Cold War battlecruisers of the Soviet Union as appropriate. So I'm not sure what criteria I should use at CfD to get rid of the class categories and figure that you might know exactly how to handle the situation.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, IMHO, these are entirely legitimate categorisations, actually - per the exception to WP:SMALLCAT the ships-by-class tree is an established category tree that allows for single-article categories without any fuss; the categorisation of the individual ships' redirects there aids the user. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:33, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, although it seems rather pointless.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! - The Bushranger One ping only 21:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

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Your opinion please...
I'd like to request your opinion on three individuals who were part of one of the many bulk AFD where you cast a bulk delete.

In Articles for deletion/Muhammed al-Darbi the nominator pasted the same boilerplate nomination for articles on six additional individuals that he had been using in a new bulk nomination every day for weeks. I suspected he wasn't complying with WP:BEFORE, wasn't really reading the articles, and hadn't conducted his own web search so as to reach an informed conclusion as to whether the individuals were actually notable. Since he claimed all six were Guantanamo captives, but three of the men had never been Guantanamo captives, had been held in the CIA's black sites.

Those three are in the news again, following the release of the Senate Intelligence Committee's unclassified summary of its report on the CIA's use of torture. The report identified the three as among the individuals the CIA tortured, tortured without authorization, and said that they were wrongly held. The Senate report went into detail about about how they were tortured and abused. Various newspapers have commented on these individuals, their unauthorized torture, and their unauthorized detention. Some of them have done their best to marshal the information that had already been published about these men -- the wikipedia articles about these men would have been very useful to reporters, a few days ago, when this was a breaking story.

The reason I am writing you is that I am hoping I can ask you to think about these articles again, and offer me your opinion as to how much new information you think they would require before you would be prepared to voice a "keep" opinion if they were restored to article space, and someone nominated the expanded article for deletion.

We've had some collegial interactions, when we agreed in our "keep" opinions on maritime vessels.

Before I go any farther, I think I should address a comment you left in this afd. I've tried to give a civil, collegial, meaningful reply to every meaningful concern, but the barrage of hundreds of afd back in July and August of 2012 just didn't leave me with enough time to reply to this comment.

You wrote:
 * {| class="wikitable"


 * "Also Geo Swan's statement about "apologists" is a serious failure of good faith."
 * "Also Geo Swan's statement about "apologists" is a serious failure of good faith."

If I had named particular individuals as torture apologisits, and I couldn't back that up with some pretty definitive diffs, I would agree that was a lapse from good faith. But I did not name anyone in particular. Specifically, I do not regard you as a torture apologist.
 * }

I have discussed torture and detention policy off-wiki, and have encountered many individuals who have been very openly apologists for torture. I didn't say that the torture apologists I was talking about were on wiki. My comment? I think that with a comment like that, if someone personally don't think it applies to them, their best choice is to not see it as a personal attack.

You also wrote:
 * {| class="wikitable"


 * "Redirect all to the appropriate 'Fooian detainees at Guantanamo Bay' lists. As BigXRay states, the arguments for notability for these people are based on inherited notability and from passing references in articles that do not rise to the level of establishing notability, and also fail WP:BLP1E. "
 * "Redirect all to the appropriate 'Fooian detainees at Guantanamo Bay' lists. As BigXRay states, the arguments for notability for these people are based on inherited notability and from passing references in articles that do not rise to the level of establishing notability, and also fail WP:BLP1E. "

First, clearly, Muhammed al-Darbi, Salah 'Ali Qaru, Muhammad Assad, who weren't ever held at Guantanamo Bay, should not have been redirected to Yemeni detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
 * }

Taking an extreme AGF view, I would assume you read my comment more closely than the nominator, and that you read the articles more closely than the nominator, and that your lazy fingers wrote something you did not mean. I would assume you were only recommeding that the three Guantanamo captives be redirected to 'Fooian detainees at Guantanamo Bay', and that the other three men's articles should have been redirected to something like Yemeni individuals detained in CIA black sites, or reasonable equivalent. Nominator however ignored this important point and did redirect all to 'Fooian detainees at Guantanamo Bay'.

Second, with regard to "inherited notability", can I ask what you think should be dismissed as a mere "passing mention?

The Washington Post article cited in the Muhammad Assad article devoted 4 paragraphs and 212 words specifically to Assad. 212 words is about an order of magnitude longer than the longest mention I would characterize as a "passing mention".

In August 2012 there were numerous verifiable, authoritative references, that hadn't been included in the article. Here are some:

This UN document, from 2010, devotes well over 600 words exclusively to Asad. I think that this too transcends ordinary definitions of "passing mention".

USA/Djibouti: Torture case filed at the ACHPR -- 276 words

I said in the afd, that "You have asserted that Guantanamo captives don't 'deserve' coverage. Coverage is neither a reward or a penalty. These captives merit coverage because there is sufficient coverage of them in reliable sources." I think this is an important principle, in general, and, if you disagree, I would be grateful if you would explain why.

Personally, I think practically anyone who examined the references available at the time the article was nominated for deletion would agree there were more than sufficient references for an article to measure up to the wikipedia standards of 2012. But I won't ask you to review the references of 2012.

Instead I would be grateful if you took at look at the references available today, as of December 2014. There many times more references today, as there were in 2012, many of them from the last week or so, since the Senate report explicitly acknowledged he had been held in secret by the CIA, that he had been tortured by the CIA, that he had been tortured without authorization by CIA officials, and finally that the CIA soon figured out he was an innocent man and kept torturing him anyhow. But there was another large spike of coverage in 2013. This google search has several different transliterations of his name, and some of the hits will be false positives, but I trust that you won't have much trouble recognizing which are valid hits.

Just to repeat my question, could you please take two or three minutes to look through the results of the google search above, and tell me whether you agree there are enough potential references that address him in detail to establish that the topic of Mohammed al-Asad measures up to the standards of 2014?

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Geo Swan, that is a huge wall of text; I'd strongly recommend you cut it down somewhat to make it easier for Bushranger to see what your point is. Otherwise, it can very easily be dismissed as being FAR too long to read. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 21:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I can help; starting with the simplest and most direct question: does the current coverage from the US report & the news stories connected with it make in your view enough of a difference? More general matters will be harder to find agreement on.  DGG ( talk ) 23:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Discussion of interest to you
You were a discussant at Articles for deletion/Kim Cloutier which (somewhat strangely) closed as a delete with 5 delete and 4 keep responses. The article has since been recreated through the WP:AFC process and a speedy deletion was contested. Thus, I call your attention to Articles for deletion/Kim Cloutier (2nd nomination).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:11, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Merry
To you and yours FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 22:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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Your assistance please...
You closed Articles for deletion/Asim Thahit Abdullah Al Khalaqi. He is in the news again because he was released, to Kazakhstan. I request userification of the article's revision history and talk page please, so I can review the previous material, and make a decision how best to cover the new information.

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 17:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Done; it's now here. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:30, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Apologies for the absence
The Christmas season nommed my time, as well as having other draws on my attention the last few months. I should be checking in more frequently in the future though. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:31, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


 * It is nice to have you back! - Ahunt (talk) 22:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Same here. - BilCat (talk) 23:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hooray! A lot has happened since you've been out; WP:NASCAR finally has a FA, drivers are coming and going, and the RTA has already screwed up their website.  Zappa  SJS  Mati   04:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Cat Creek, Montana
An urban legend/hoax campaign that has consumed hours of administrator time is about to happen again as same/another vandal has appeared. See curious history of Doinhoodratstuff. Protection of the article won't stop this campaign as the vandals are smart enough not to come in as anons. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:52, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like User:Acroterion got there already. FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 02:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Colofac
I'm just curious as to his user page bearing a 'banned' notice, but the discussion linked from it !voted to support an indef block. I'm probably missing something somewhere, but I don't understand this. (Something came up on my watchlist which drew me there...) Peridon (talk) 20:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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User:Wikimikework
I have some suggested edits to the Edgeworth Economics page that was deleted. Specifically, I have eliminated promotional content, and replaced it with content sourced from reliable third-party sources, as suggested. However, I am a paid advocate for Edgeworth Economics, so before recreating a similar page or creating a talk page I wanted to contact you, and ask if I may create a talk page for Edgeworth Economics and place the new content there for your review? If not, is there a different procedure I should follow? Thank you. (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:03, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You can note that User:The Bushranger has not been on Wikipedia since 7 January 2015. I think he is tied up with other obligations, so you may not get a quick answer. For policies on paid editing see this. - Ahunt (talk) 16:17, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ahunt. I'm happy to make any disclosures. My relationship is why I wanted to post on an Edgeworth talk page first, rather than create or edit a new page. Given that User:The Bushranger may be tied up, I'll put proposed content on the Edgeworth Economics talk page and go from there. Thanks again. --Wikimikework (talk) 18:24, 29 January 2015 (UTC)Wikimikework
 * Yeah, my apologies to all - life has been tying me up lately. I should be able to start peeking in more now though. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice to have you back for a bit! - Ahunt (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * FYI, following a discussion on my talk page, JohnCD (talk) moved the article for Edgeworth Economics. If I can provide any additional information or context, please let me know. Thank you.Wikimikework (talk) 04:15, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight#Retirement of project member WD Graham
You are invited to join the discussion at WikiProject Spaceflight. WD Graham, formerly operating under the editor name of GW Simulations, has retired from Wikipedia. Please pop on over to offer a remembrance, or thanks, or ... (...maybe talk him in to giving it another go.) Thanks. N2e (talk) 06:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Precious again
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Thank you for reviewing in the Contributor copyright investigations/PumpkinSky! Paraphrasing (I hope not too closely): If everybody who read this looked at one more article it could be over today. - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (18 November 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC) Three years ago, you were the 34th recipient of my  Pumpkin Sky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
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 * developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
 * And last but not least, worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

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ANI discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 22:26, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Quick question

 * Hello, I'm back! Just curious about my User:Dave1185/sandbox, did someone clean it out without my knowledge or is this a new feature? *head-scratching motion* -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 17:53, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Kinda tricky question, your opinion please
I recently came across the article on Frank Capra and noticed a weird pattern of a zillion cites from one source, which is always problematic. I looked up the book online and found it was accessible so I began to find the actual page numbers rather than a range of pages to use as reference sources. I found that the passages near or next to the cites were easy to track because the editor who was involved had done some very close paraphrasing, a diplomatic way to say that it was nearly a copy-viol. I was curious and saw that the long-time editor has been a heavy contributor in the past and still contributes, but without too much trouble, I could find the sources that were being used. All I had to do was google search on exact wording and find the source. What to do?? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:32, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look when I get a chance. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:51, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Returning
I finally have the brainspace to peek back in here, so I'll be doing that a bit more from now on. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 21:51, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Welcome back, have fun! - BilCat (talk) 22:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey it will be great to have you back here. We have been at least one admin short for a while on the project! - Ahunt (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Finally! Man, that absence felt longer than Jimmie's 5-title run.  Zappa  24  Mati   23:58, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hopefully it won't herald a new one! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:09, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

FYI
You may be interested that a second AfD is in progress on an article, as to which you participated in the first AfD. The current AfD is here. --Epeefleche (talk) 23:17, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

FYI
As you were involved in blocking some of the socking related to MMA AfDs, I thought I would bring this to your attention ... in the event it needs admin attention. Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 07:38, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_November_12
Hi The Bushranger, not sure if you remember this discussion some years ago, which you contributed to. I've been slowly consolidating 'Military facilities' and 'Military bases' across a whole range of the subcategories. Now there is an opposed move of about three of the subcategories at Categories_for_discussion. Would you kindly consider giving your views there? Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 10:14, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll see about making some time to take a look. Thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 10:13, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIX, April 2015
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WikiCup 2015 May newsletter
The second round one has all wrapped up, and round three has now begun! Congratulations to the 34 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our second round. Leading the way overall was in Group B with a total of 777 points for a variety of contributions including Good Articles on Corona Borealis and Microscopium - both of which received the maximum bonus. Special credit must be given to a number of high importance articles improved during the second round.
 * was one of several users who worked on improving Ulysses S. Grant. Remember, you do not need to work on an article on your own - as long as each person has completed significant work on the article during 2015, multiple competitors can claim the same article.
 * took Dragonfly to Good Article for a 3x bonus - and if that wasn't enough, they also took Damselfly there as well for a 2x bonus.
 * worked up Alexander Hamilton to Good Article for the maximum bonus. Hamilton was one of the founding fathers of the United States and is a level 4 vital article.

The points varied across groups, with the lowest score required to gain automatic qualification was 68 in Group A - meanwhile the second place score in Group H was 404, which would have been high enough to win all but one of the other Groups! As well as the top two of each group automatically going through to the third round, a minimum score of 55 was required for a wildcard competitor to go through. We had a three-way tie at 55 points and all three have qualified for the next round, in the spirit of fairness. The third round ends on June 28, with the top two in each group progressing automatically while the remaining 16 highest scorers across all four groups go through as wildcards. Good luck to all competitors for the third round! , and  16:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks
You restored the revision history of Sufyian Barhoumi in 2013. I appreciate that, thanks.

Your edit summary says: "Reverted to revision 501791820 by The Bushranger: actually, just put it back to the redirect - this was deleted at AfD, please use WP:DRV if you think it should be restored."

I added some new material. I've taken updated drafts to DRV, and have been mildly admonished for doing so, as the updates rendered those versions ineligible for speedy deletion of recreation of previously deleted material. So, I think I won't take this to DRV.

On the other hand, anyone who thought the updated version had the same problems as the original version could initiate an AFD on the updated version.

It was my position in 2012, and today, that none of the few dozen captives who actually faced charges before a Guantanamo Military Commission should be regarded as instances of WP:BLP1E. Since charges were so rare, I think it is a second event, and a well documented one.

If you took a look at the draft, I'd be grateful if you let me know whether you thought the updated version should also be deleted, and, if so, you could offer an explanation as to why.

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 17:30, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You userified Asim Thahit Abdullah al Khalaqi for me. I've updated it, and restored it to article space, after there was coverage of a controversy concerning his medical care.  Geo Swan (talk) 23:09, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

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WP:DELREV: JonTron
Hello,

I'm getting in touch about the deletion of the article JonTron, the discussion resulting in which was closed by you on 11 April 2014. I feel there is a case for reinstating this article per clause 3 of Deletion review ("significant new information has come to light since a deletion that would justify recreating the deleted page"). In line with the WP:DELREV instructions, I am raising this with you in the first instance as the deleting administrator.

The quoted reason for the deletion was the absence of evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". I've collected together some sources that I feel met these criteria. I've set these out below for your judgement.


 * The Michigan Daily : refers to JonTron as a "YouTube gaming celebrit[y]".
 * Kinja : refers to JonTron's role as a voice actor for the video game "A Hat in Time".
 * Mishka NYC : a lengthy article on JonTron that refers to a number of notable elements, including his involvement with Game Grumps, his founding of the venerable website Normal Boots, and his media partnership with Amazon.com.
 * MAGFest : refers to JonTron's attendance at MAGFest in 2013 and his then-1.3 million YouTube followers.
 * Kotaku : a lengthy article that describes JonTron's involvement in the GAME_JAM reality show, which itself attracted considerable attention.
 * Kotaku : a lengthy article on JonTron's departure from Game Grumps, which again received considerable attention.
 * VGFacts : refers to JonTron being referenced in the video game "DLC Quest" - not in itself hugely notable, but it does reinforce his status as a web personality.

Taken together, I believe these sources (which are by no means exhaustive) represent "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Additionally, I think it's important to note that personalities whose careers have been built around new media will inevitably have garnered less coverage in traditional sources than those working on more conventional mediums, so Wikipedia's typical approach to sourcing may verge on being overly prescriptive when applied here. On this basis, I would like to request that the page protection be lifted allowing for the recreation of the article to community standards.

Thanks for your attention.

McPhail (talk) 19:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review for JonTron
An editor has asked for a deletion review of JonTron. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. McPhail (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

The Center Line: Spring 2015

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Your opinion please...
I respect your opinion on nautical matters.

I haven't moved User:Geo Swan/boatnerd to article space because the sensible caution wikipedia contributors feel towards ordinary blogs, is frequently senselessly used to tar the relatively small number of genuinely reliable authoritative blogs, or online publications which merely call themselves blogs (like Scotusblog).

I'd be interested in your opinion on whether you see anything missing from User:Geo Swan/boatnerd.

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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Return
Apologies for all for the long absence, life happens when you least expect it. I should be able to peek in more often from here out though. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:30, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Welcome back. Life happens, but we miss you when you're gone, and are glad to know you're still around. - BilCat (talk) 07:39, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Greetings! It's always nice to see an admin move from the semi-active back to the active list. ;-) Happy editing! Liz  Read! Talk! 10:24, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


 * It will be great to have you back here! - Ahunt (talk) 21:36, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Colon-el-Nuevo is back - copied from my talk page
I did a thorough search on Colon El Nuevo and other profiles created by him. This is the complete list:


 * 152.16.51.158
 * 83.50.255.137
 * 2606:A000:1118:2105:C91D:FAD:775E:591B  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daedalus&Ikaros (talk • contribs) 12:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 71.111.202.252
 * 107.15.33.47
 * 46.53.176.253
 * Catalinacoast
 * CuriousColonal
 * Colombo-o-novo
 * Colombo.bz

The same change to the text of the Wikipedia page:


 * Colon El Nuevo
 * 46.53.176.253\Colon-el-Nuevo

It is an encyclopedic article and it must be written within the guidelines laid out in WP:NOT, and WP:V. He uses Wikipedia as a forum or a soapbox. Thank you. --Daedalus&Ikaros (talk) 1:11 pm, Today (UTC+1)

Doug Weller (talk) 12:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXII, July 2015
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Deletion review for Frank McParland
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Nomination of Frank McParland for deletion
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 * Just a note that Bushranger is rarely on WP at this time, and may not return for a while. - BilCat (talk) 01:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Every time I think I can make time to come back, life eats me again! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Category:Abandoned military aircraft projects of the United States
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The Bugle: Issue CXIII, August 2015
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