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List of spiritual entities in Islam
Greetings, you wanted me to talk to your if I disagree. Well, I disagree. First, this is a list and a Wikipedia list should be like a list. The type of list we are doing here is most likely Manual of Style/Glossaries. These usually list items from A-Z. Now, as far as I understood your point of view, we should only add the entities mentioned in the Quran. This was originally my idea too, because I already suspected this going to some disputes. However, most people think we should keep the list. Now my reasons, why I think we should use this version: 1) There aren't enough creautres in the Quran. We only have these: 2) Quran isn't a good source: The nature of spirits in the Quran is ambiguos. Best example is Iblis. He might be, in Islam (including literature, poems, Muslim believes, reports from the Sahaba, Hadiths etc.) an angel, a jinn, a devil, or entirely unique. Yes, you could say "But the Quran clearly says he is one of the jinn, so all other opinions must be false". You could, but this isn't convincing, since you only understand the Quran as such, because of exegesis. "Jinn" could also be a general term for any spiritual entity. Actually, there are view points arguing that "jinn" do not exist at all, thus we could even dispute adding "jinn" as a seperate class of being (many Modernists hold this view, but this view also appears in erlier works like whose of Ghazali). So what is it? Is "jinn" just meaning "invisible" and including all sorts of invisible beigns or is it a creature on its own? We don't know, the Quran doesn't clarify, interpretation does. 3) Unclear boundaries: How do you decide that belongs to Islam and what does not?: You could arguy, "but the div are Persian", but these scholars likewise attribute them to Muhammad and we don't have any source directly going back to Muhammad, only oral traditions. The Muslims might have called them "marid" instead of "divs", the concept would nevertheless root in "Islam". How about Sakhr? Doesn't occure in contemporary theology, does this mean "he does not belong to Islam"? Sarcely not, since this refers to an entity mentiooned in the Quran, tradition just gave this entity a name. How about Khidr? Contemporary scholarship, partly even deriving from (by the way rather unqualified) scholars like Sayyid Qutb who reject this as "unislamic", would argue "this is middle Eastern tradition, not Islam". Nevetheless, a majority of Muslims genuinly identify the "mysterious man" in Surah 18 with Khidr. How do you evne want to draw the line? By the Quran, those depiction of spiritual creatures is unclear? The hadiths, with not as profound but similar issues? How do you classify Miraj Literature? Is this "jewish" and considered "Israeliyyat"? Probably not. For example the devils I added derive from Muslim sources, although not made explicit, same goes for angels like Ridwan (who exist just because of interpretation and Miraj Literature) and they also found their way partly to Turkish Wiki. Islam has no clerical hierarchy like Catholicism, so we just don't have a clear definition of Islamic supernatural creatures (this is also why I decided to write the genus behind the entity, in case of ambiguity, you can just add another one. For example Iblis (angel, Genie, Devil) instead of adding Iblis to multiple categories. Much better to read this way). Thus, there might always be an entity not accepted by someone else but believed to exist or at least play an role within the Muslim's belief-system. Establishing boundaries about what is "Islamic" and what is "falsly classified as Islamic" is always a subjective point of view. But this violates Neutral point of view. If you have a fair solution, I am willing to follow your suggestions, (my first decission was to avoid this conflict by just deleting the article so this inconsistence between different point of views within Islam would not be made evident) but if there is merely your personal point of view about what "Islam" is, I must, unfortunately, insist to make sure we have a neutral point of view here, adding every point of view, which includes every entity deriving from Muslim sources. Best regards--VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 15:09, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Angels (with a vast list of beigns already mentioned in the Angels in Islam article, jinn, ifrit (arguably not even an entity by itself but merely an epiphet in the Quran. Marid doesn't appear, since this is just an epiphet in the Quran, devils (arguably only "evil jinn" as many contemporary scholars argue), the Qarin (not even an entity by itself in the Quranic context), Houris and Iblis.

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