User talk:Tinucherian/Archives/2008/June

K. B. Vasanthakumar
Hi Tinucherian. Is this person from Kerala notable? I can't find anything much on this person through Google. I left a message on WP Kerala too. Thanks Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 10:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I replied at WP:KERALA --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 16:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter
Please see Template:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/June 2008. I hope I didn't screw it up too badly. John Carter (talk) 15:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you think the draft is OK, we can go ahead and send it, but I'd like to see if you have any objections first. John Carter (talk) 18:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Miscategorization, again
Please do not tag any "Bengali *" category with the "WP India" tag. For example, Imdadul Haque Milon is a Bangladeshi writer, NOT an Indian writer. So is Humayun Ahmed. Please fix your bot. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 15:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * For a (partial) list of article where the categorization was incorrect, please refer to my Contribution log. In general, don't use any "Bengali *" category for tagging with "WP India" tags. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 15:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 *  Please see User:TinucherianBot/Autotagg > Notices/Issues. My problem is that I am using a high level category of Category:Indian people by occupation recursively with the bot and it is not possible to avoid a particular categroy alone. What do you think of recatergorization of Category:Bengali writers to Category:Bengali writers in India and Category:Bengali writers in Bangaladesh ? Please dont take any offence in this suggestion. I am suggesting to avoid wrong categorization. Once I complete this task, i will raise this at WP:INDIA and WP:BANG --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is very tricky, as some people (e.g. who were born and died before either of these countries came into existence) cannot be categorized as such. In general, the best way would be to separate language/ethnic categorization from nationality based categorization. For example, Bengali writers should be a subcategory of Category:Bengali people by occupation and Category:Writers by language, Category:Bengali language, and nothing else. Each individual writer, if Bangladeshi, can also have the category Category:Bangladeshi writers etc. This will solve any problems like above. --Ragib (talk) 16:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am OK with the suggestion. But we need to have a Conesus before we do that, otherwise many may protest. --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 17:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Looking at your comment above, "Category:Indian people by occupation " should never be a supercategory of "Bengali people" or "Bengali writers". Not all Bengali writers are from India nor from Bangladesh. So, it will be a fallacy to include that as a super cat. Also, "Bengali writers in India" is redundant ... Bengali writers who are from India should already be covered under "Category:Indian writers". Same goes for Bangladeshi writers. --Ragib (talk) 17:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you PLEASE stop running your bot for a moment, and fix it? No offense please, but I am getting tired of fixing the incorrect tagging done by your bot. I have already mentioned above that you cannot tag all "Bengali x" articles as WP India. I am quite baffled at several other taggings:


 * Pola_Uddin%2C_Baroness_Uddin - how on earth is a British Bangladeshi politician tagged "WP India" by your bot?


 * Panna Kaiser a Bangladesh politician, how on earth does it fall under WP India?

Please stop your bot immediately before these are sorted out, otherwise, I'll block the bot for the time being, and report it to ANB. Please note that I mean no offense or any hard feelings, just that your bot is making a huge mess rather than solving things. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

And even more mistagging by your bot. Would you please stop your bot for some time, and fix it? --Ragib (talk) 20:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I assume you are running an unsupervised bot. I have blocked it for 15 minutes just to get your attention. Please fix it ASAP. --Ragib (talk) 20:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, the bot is still running unsupervised. I'm blocking it for now till you can stop it and examine the issues. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 21:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm online, and if you want, I'll unblock your bot right away. Please address the concerns before starting the bot again. --Ragib (talk) 02:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I should be up till then. --Ragib (talk) 02:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool, I have unblocked the bot. Thanks for being so understanding. Have a nice day .. --Ragib (talk) 04:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Tinucherian man
are you going on freenode anytime soon ?

You're pal

Snoring —Preceding unsigned comment added by HumayunMirzajr (talk • contribs) 17:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Thank you
You are very welcome! Pleasure is mine. We need more editors to join Indian automation department and contribute. Please take a note of Ragib's comments above. We have to figure out a way to stop the bot from tagging un-related articles. I was thinking of asking Kingboyk for ideas for this. May be the the plugin can check for some keywords on the main-article (example: India) before tagging. This still will not be 100% correct. We need to look for more ideas before letting your bot run again. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 01:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I now think it will be unfair to blame the bot here solely ... :), the categories are all messed up. For example, "Bengali poets", a linguistic and ethnic category, should not be a subcategory of "Indian poets" or "Bangladeshi poets". Rather, a Bengali poet from Bangladesh should fall under both

Cat:Bangladeshi poet (nationality cat), and under Bengali poet. The Bengali poet's parent cat should only be Bengali people by occupation, and poets by ethnicity. The problems here are caused by this bot tagging all subcategories of Cat:India .... evidently, "Bengali x" should not be a subcat of Cat:India. I suggest fixing the category tree first before running the bot again. --Ragib (talk) 02:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Rajib, I have narrowed down many levels down of Category:India to avoid such conflicts See User:TinucherianBot/Autotagg . ( the feeds for AWB is a single category ( recursive) but it cant exclude a sub category. But these Bengali categories are the only one that is making the problem. Believe me this is just 0.01 % of error only. Can you help to fix the cats please . --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 02:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:300
Hello. Please note that WP:300 is a redirect. If created, the page would be at Times that 300 or more Wikipedians supported something. But see also Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Times that 300 Wikipedians supported something, where a prior version of the page was merged back to WP:200. Gimmetrow 05:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops! I am sorry. I just thought since there is WP:100 and WP:200 already, why not WP:300 ? I was not aware of such a community decision. Apologies ... --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's not set in stone either. When WP:200 grows enough it will be split, but right now there's only eight events over 300, and three of those were over 400. Gimmetrow 05:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * believe me, with Wiki's growing popularity, that is not very far :) --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) -
 * Yes, it will happen eventually, but right now there are only about 30 items on WP:200. Gimmetrow 06:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi
yes I did ping you, Tinuch man tell me what else I need to edit on this article Iskander Mirza Thanks, Snoring

Btw.. do you still go on freenode.net ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HumayunMirzajr (talk • contribs) 06:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Me? I guess I am the wrong person. May be you should try opinions from WP:PAK or WP:INDIA ?? . I cant access freenode from office right now --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 06:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Please check what you revert.
Please check what you revert. Thanks. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 06:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

automated Wikiproject tagging
You should not add WP:INDIA templates to articles already tagged for the Hinduism Wikiproject. Generally, automated Wikiproject tagging based on article categories is a very bad idea. It essentially defeats the entire point of Wikiproject tags, making them redundant with categorization. Do you have any sort of consensus or approval for the tasks your bot does? --dab (𒁳) 07:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * May I have the articles you are referring to ?? Btw Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_India --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I was making a general point, but your bot came to my attention at Talk:Fifth Veda. --dab (𒁳) 11:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

74.13
Did he do something wrong? The IP who starts 74.13 has actually been around DYK for quite some time, usually contributing to the suggestions page but occasionally on the update page as well. As long as you don't see anything untoward going on, there's probably no reason to be concerned. Gatoclass (talk) 07:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I had a look and he's just been trying to clear the hook section for the next update. He's not a vandal, he's usually a helpful guy. We actually had a discussion about whether IP's should be allowed to edit the next update page or not and though I was opposed to it the consensus was to allow it as 74.13 sometimes likes to help out there. Gatoclass (talk) 07:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:DYK
Isn't it obvious the anon was helping out? Why did you revert him? --BorgQueen (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw some user reverting the edit. I thought the IP was just blanking the page! --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 08:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's okay, I understand your reaction, I had just the same concerns as you when I first saw an IP pop up on the next update page! Gatoclass (talk) 10:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:BOT
I will let you know my suggestions about exluding categories and recursive tagging. I need more time. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 11:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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thanks
Thanks for recognising my contributions to wikipedia. Rohit Reddy™ (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU
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RE:Tagging with bot of articles under WP:WINDPA
Hello, these are the categories that the bot may run through under WP:WINDPA Category:Protected areas of India, Category:Biosphere reserves of India, Category:National parks of India, Category:Protected areas of West Bengal, Category:Protected forests of India, Category:Reserved forests of India, Category:Wildlife sanctuaries of India, Category:Zoos in India, Category:Conservation in India

Thanks for your works. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  10:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * : I will start this once I complete another request. Thanks --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * User:TinucherianBot/Autotagg/WINDPA --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * : -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 16:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ : 131 of 336 articles that are checked were tagged -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 17:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. Amartyabag   TALK2ME  04:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Category list

 * Create a category list: Recursively traverse through a parent category (For example: Category:Kerala) using AWB. From the list, filter out everything except categories (you can do this with List menu - Filter). Save the categories into a text file with wiki markup. Let each workgroup check this category list and exclude the incorrect categories (they will simply remove them).


 * Now that you have a Wikiproject-reviewed good category list, use the text file option on AWB, to load the categories. Select all the articles (right click, select all), then right click again, then "Add selected to list..." --> "From Category". This will load all the articles from the selected categories


 * Covert to talk pages and start tagging.

This way we only tag the categories that WikiProject has reviewed...a much safer route. It will be helpful for the WikiProject to get a list of categories before the run. The WikiProject can keep adding new categories to the list from then on. The disadvantage with this route is that category listing might have changed and the listing may not be up-to-date. It needs to be periodically generated.


 * I made a related feature request that will make the category list-making easier. See Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Feature_requests. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 12:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Using other bots
I am adding this for comparison. User:WatchlistBot did this differently. The bot-owner did all the above, plus the bot would traverse the the categories in the WikiProject-reviewed category listing recursively, each time checking if the talk page of the category has the WikiProject banner before traversing (to the next level). The bot also maintained a list of categories to exclude. Unfortunately the bot-owner is on a wikibreak. Blnyugen mentioned about SatyrBot on WT:IN. I have not tried that though.

Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 11:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Try putting the categories under WP:INAUTO pages. This way other bots can share the workload of TinuBot. Lost and myself did this some time back. See INAUTO. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 11:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for the comments and suggestions -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Signature
Can you remove the blue background on your signature or possibly use a lighter color. Just a request. :) Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 12:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ Done :) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Ganeshk  ( talk ) 12:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Please be careful.
You made an AIV report against User:Loganlion12 as a vandalism account. The user had only one edit in her/his history. Maybe you're familiar with AIV's guidelines and this was in error, or maybe you're unfamiliar with the guidelines regarding when a report to AIV is appropriate. Your efforts in combatting vandalism are absolutely appreciated. Just be careful or some admins might start to ignore your reports. Best, Doczilla  STOMP! 04:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. I am trying to understand why this :

alos was ignored ?? -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Warnings and WP:AIV
The general rule of thumb is that a user should have received a final warning before they get reported to AIV. This usually means a level 4 warning such as, but it may include any warning that mentioned the possibility of a block if the conduct continues. In both the reports you made today, not only had they not gotten a final warning, but neither had vandalized after receiving their first warning. That's why I deleted the reports. —C.Fred (talk) 05:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok. Thank you for the reply. I got your point -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:SEEPZ
I removed it. When I wrote the article I had mentioned that SEEPZ had Mumbai's one of the old church. So I thought to add the banner. But later found the St. John the Baptist Church, Mumbai article already had this banner. So removed it from SEEPZ talkpage now. -- gp pande «talk» 07:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks buddy -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 07:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

hi
Hi there, I have recently started editing on wikipedia and was working upon the article Prime Minister of India. I find you are quiet active on wiki India project, therefore thought would drop this query to you. I have made some useful contribution to the article but I find it beyond my limits to improve it further. I found that there is a place to to suggest articles for collaborative work but am unable to determine the way as to how it is done. I find that the topic is quiet important and am in fact quiet taken aback to find that not much has been done on it. Therefore I thought I would drop you a word regarding the same. It would be really nice if you could help me out by either placing the request to nominate the article for collaborative work or tell me how it is done. Thanks in advance. Tarun2k (talk) 08:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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WP:INDIA Tagging with TinucherianBot for WikiProject Tamil Nadu.
hi there ! so nice to hear from u...wish to know in wht ways i may be useful...-- Doctor muthu's muthu   wanna talk ? 14:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The list tagging at Tamil Nadu project is complete. You may unleash the bot now. :) Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for updating the cats list. I have started the Bot at User:TinucherianBot/Autotagg/Tamil Nadu -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 07:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Probable bot
Hi TC! I am sure that you are by now over worked and tired running the bot. Good work. I had in the past bumped into articles with the word Tamil leading to a dab page. The problem is these mostly should be linked to Tamil language or to Tamil people. Is it possible (sorry if it is not) to make a bot to make a list of such pages leading to the dab page which can be manually (hard work here!!) sorted to where it should link to. Let me know if that is possible. Cheers <b style="color:Orange">Wiki San Roze</b> †αLҝ 07:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. <b style="color:Orange">Wiki San Roze</b> †αLҝ 08:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

User:74.13.130.46
Thanks for unblocking this IP. It was a mistake from my side. Usually we dont see activity on the DYK pages with IP address, I mistood it as a vandal blanking the page. I suspected it as I saw another user also reverting the edits by the IP. My bad ! Sorry :( -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 09:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all. He's been here for at least six months under 74.13.x.x  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 02:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okey... -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 07:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, Tinucherian. I was already offline.  I didn't even know my (old) IP was blocked. No harm done. :) --74.14.17.45 (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Format fix of the latest Christianity newsletter
Please add the following string at the end of the latest newsletter on the talk page of everyone who received it

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Thank you. --Blanchardb- Me • MyEars • MyMouth -timed 14:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ I have fixed the issue on the talk pages . Thanks for pointing this out -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 14:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

New bot for project India.
Hi Tinu, I have started working on project newsletter and was thinking if we can mention the bots used by our project. Do you know how many of new bots have gone live for our project since Jan 2008? If you know the names of few prominent bots (from top of your head) it would be helpful. -- gp pande «talk» 11:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

These are the bots used by our project > WikiProject India/Automation.

We had used Bot0612 for automatic assesment for our project -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 11:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, thanks. I won't be returning to full editing for a week or two, but I can edit mid day when I feel more able and can actually see the screen!!. Its good sometimes to take a break anyway as it gives me renewed enthusiasm for the project. I've created a few new locator maps for use in the templates for starters anyway. Looking forward to the new project ahead. Welcome aboard! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 14:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all are you acquainted with the use of the stabdard infobox and entering coordinates? What I have been doing for weeks is adding infoboxes/maps to articles in the categories of Category:Cities by country. What we need is to ensure that most articles have this and references if possible and then content can be build upon what we have. By copying and pasting the infobox, each article can be edited within about 30 seconds,. First of my agenda is to finish adding infoboxes to Ethiopia in existing articles. Also I have a backlog of about 25,000 articles on french communes which require copy and pasting the infoboxes from french wikipedia into the english wiki articles. Any wizardry you can do with AWB or whatever would be much appreciated. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000?14:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Tinu
How are you doing. After reading your user page i came to know you are Malayali and a network engineer. Can you tell me if there is a scope in doing in networking?. Oh and iam from same country and same city has you. --SkyWalker (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I a not a network engineer essentially... I am a software engineer working on Networking/ embedded products... worked earlier in infosys.. cisco systems.. now in Juniper n/ws.. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 04:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That is good also can i email you?. --SkyWalker (talk) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 04:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:
Thanks for pointing out. I was very hasty in putting back the template, and did not notice the details. Mea Culpa :) Cheers, -- Rajith Mohan (Talk to me..) 04:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 04:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Tinu, thanks for the barnstar. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  06:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

GA/DYK/etc. icons at the top
Are pointing to a page that doesn't exist. Best to be careful when copying other people's code, in case you accidentally make mistakes like this. ;-) giggy (O) 07:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Not really... They are intentional ...Something to start filling in once I concentrate back on mainspace edits ( read FAs, GAs :) ) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 08:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:National parks in Kerala
I have nominated national parks in kerala for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 13:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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Drive
Just a friendly reminder for you to assess articles for their workgroups too. :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Ncm, I was thinking of talking to you regarding this. I seriously believe we should leave the workgroup importance parameters to the groups themselves. The reason is that the general assessers can only mark the importance of the article on a India perspective. But importance of the article for the workgroup can only be judged by the workgroup members - Simple reason, I can say Bengal author x is importance of Low / Mid in India perspective , but for the workgroup Bengal , the article _MAY_BE_ of Top/High importance.... -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh. We do need to identify articles within a workgroup's scope (by completing workgroup=yes in the banner) - but the importance parameters for a workgroup can be omitted for those reasons you've mentioned. I'm not sure if that is clear - let me know if you need clarification. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You mean to say to add a relavent workgroup ( if needed and not added already) ? Then itz ok. I understand. Thanks.. Btw you may want to see this : User:TinucherianBot. I am providing the complete relavent category list to the workgroups one by one (on their project talk pages), making them approve the good cats, making a list of this, and my bot find articles , will add the relavent workgroup parameters( if needed) to the articles , on a regular basis (current intention is once/month).  I have completed the process for Kerala, Tamil Nadu , Protected Areas for now. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 16:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If the user making the assessment can also judge the importance of the article for a workgroup, that can be done at the same time. I tried to do the assessment for many workgroups during assessing for WP India. However, if the user is not sure about the importance, s/he can leave that parameter blank. --Dwaipayan (talk) 17:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree.. Just was saying it should NOT be mandatory for the assessment drive -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 17:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep - Dwaipayanc has got it. The mandatory part is adding relevant workgroups and removing non-relevant ones - I'm not fussed about assessing importance for these workgroups because we've done the minimum step - given them the articles that fall within their scope. It's really up to those workgroups to assess its importance to them, and quite frequently, it differs from the overall India WikiProject's importance scale. Some of the workgroups have made their importance scale clear, so there's no harm in being bold, but it does get confusing sometimes so it can be left blank - the importance part for workgroups is not mandatory in that sense. Ncmvocalist (talk) 03:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

 * Thanks for the award. I will do the workgroup Tagging also -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 02:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: CFD Category:National parks in Kerala
Normally the national parks are kept in that category. So that is the category that should be retained. National parks has a specific meaning and category structure. Adding sanctuaries to it would appear to be the wrong direction to go in. Those should be in a category under Category:Protected areas. 22:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB
Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks much! You are doing a great job with automating the assessments! Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 02:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

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distributor/editor
Hi Tinu, I have started working on newsletter and have prepared the first cut of it here. I would like you to perform the distributor/editor role on it. This is my first time on such work :-) Feel free to edit and add/remove anything you feel. I have also asked User:Mspraveen to work as lead editor on this. Together we can publish this using your new bot. -- gp pande «talk» 08:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Inform Ncmvocalist also. He might be also interested. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 09:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Mspraveen and GaneshK have left some remarks/done changes. Today I have done the final changes. Please review and feel free to improve. So how to distribute using the bot? How many people will get this? When can we run the bot? -- gp pande «talk» 08:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Seems fine. Do you want to include the following to newsletter this time or next issue ?

1) User:Ganeshbot automatically updating Watchlist articles for the main project and the workgroups .. Ganeshbot has created watchlists for each of the workgroups. This allows for watching articles over smaller subset of data/area of interest. They can be accessed at the /Articles page. Examples: WikiProject Karnataka/Articles, WikiProject Protected areas of India/Articles and WikiProject Chennai/Articles.

2) Me collecting categories from workgroups and User:TinucherianBot automatically Autotaggs for them ( See User:TinucherianBot ) once every month or on request.

Once you are done with the newsletter, copy it from your Sandbox to WikiProject India/Outreach/Newsletter/June 2008. I have created a new page WikiProject India/Outreach/Full Content from WikiProject India/Members, removing those your prefer Link only content or Opt out for No delivery. We will send the newsletter to all Members in WikiProject India/Outreach/Full Content page. ( Dont worry about delivery... I can do it .. Just let me know when done ....) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 09:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC) Is there any other place I need to register to receive the newsletter? -- gp pande «talk» 15:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have included Ganeshbot's info. Praveen has asked some more time so we will take status on Monday and decide then onwards for publishing. -- gp pande «talk» 11:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am a member of this. I had added my name yesterday only. :-)

'''Yes ! ''':) WikiProject_India/Outreach If you'd like to receive a copy of our newsletter, please add your name in the full content list.

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If you are a member but would not like to receive the newsletter, please add your name to our opt out list. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Tinucherian, a link only is a link only newsletter, is it? Maybe its a stupid question, but I was wondering that link would mean that I get the newsletter in my talk page with the show/hide feature. Isn't it that way how its going to work? :D Mspraveen (talk) 06:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This is how we do WikiProject India/Outreach/Newsletter link -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 06:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice to have some review of newsletter before it goes out. Otherwise Mspraveen and me are done. I am not sure if I copied the letter just now that it will get delivered soon to all? Or it will wait for the bot to deliver it on some scheduled time. Please cut it from here so as to send it to all. We are ready to rock-n-roll. -- gp pande «talk» 15:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * : Moved the newsletter from Sandbox to WikiProject India/Outreach/Newsletter/June 2008 . I am working on the delivery -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * : The Bot is currently delivering the newsletter to the talk pages -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 06:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ : The June 2008 of the India WikiProject newsletter has been published and delivered to the talk pages of the members by TinucherianBot. ( 299 Full Content delivery and 9 Link only delivery ). Special Thanks to Gppande, Mspraveen , Blnguyen and Ganeshk for working on this issue -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 07:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

-- gp pande «talk» 07:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 07:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:INDIA June 2008 Newsletter
The June 2008 edition of the prjt newsletter is getting ready here. I guess you have worked earlier on this project newsletter and hence decided to drop a note for suggestions and comments. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 06:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can fix a few errors. Well done again.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 03:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have copyedited it.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 03:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter Volume III, Issue no. 001 - June 2008
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You can put my name in WIKI INDIA PROJECT assist team
--Dralansun (talk) 09:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Did you mean Assessment ?? :)

I suggest you may read WikiProject_India/Assessment first and then work on Unassessed India prjt articles. Please get used to how we assess articles on Quality and Importance Scale by seeing already assessed articles. If you any queries/face any problems kindly let me know -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Wiki Indian Project Members help out pls
There is a registered book Brhmaand Pujan written in 1999 from a well known writer of India Naresh Sonee. Notability issue could be sorted/verified out from this site-
 * http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/ . Acquainting you here, Wikibin engine had captured these two sites from Wikipedia. They are as
 * http://wikibin.org/articles/brhmaand-pujan.html
 * http://wikibin.org/articles/naresh-sonee.html
 * However one can come across infinite hits on search engines about Naresh Sonee or Brhmaand Pujan

Your good selves can go through the same and verifiy for assertments. The author has introduced a self based unique logical philosophy one of it's kind. Presently, how can I re put some information again on wikipedia. As time & again it get deleted on bias by a certain community in wiki ? Can you put my case/cause across wikiIndian portal members or Chairman of wikipedia? Or if possible can you put the same pages again by editing them as required picking up from wikibin promoting the sames. Regard --Dralansun (talk) 10:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

My "oppose"
I have fixed it now! It was meant to be a neutral not an oppose! Thanks anyway! = ) --Cameron (T|C) 13:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You are welcome :) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 13:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Can u fix above Brhmaand Pujan & Naresh Sonee pages pls?
by simple intro of them.I am bad at technical fight/debate. Special regards/thanks to u.--Dralansun (talk) 10:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Protected areas
I fixed the problem. I have added a new parameter, table=no for use on Cinema and Indian military history projects. Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 10:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Did you see Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics ??

Once I created this note, I saw you are already working on this...Are you gng to make the full workgroup pages or dummy pages with the stats ?? -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I started those workgroups prior to your post. It's a good thing that you proposed. I was going to make them dummy pages with stats. Planning to add  to them. Regards,  Ganeshk  ( talk ) 10:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Awesome...Thanks ! We think alike and are in sync :D ! Let us work together on this . You can create the WP India Parameters and the categories for all the states missing. I will create the full workgroup pages like the already existing ones. Once we are done, we may start a campaign among the WP:IND members to volunteer workgroups of their interest . Thoughts ?? -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * My thoughts exactly: I read somewhere, "Build it...they will come." :) Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 10:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great !... Letz rock and roll.. If people find already existing workgroups, they will surely join and contribute -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia:WikiProject Chhattisgarh
Fixed both the spelling issues that you reported. When adding talkback templates, can you please sign at the end? This will help the section to be archived by the archive bot. I am having to add a unsigned template to make it work. Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 11:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just saw your edit in your talk page... didnt know this earlier... ;) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 11:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Fixed now. I should use sandbox more often. ;) Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 11:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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Wiki Indian Project Members help out pls
There is a registered book Brhmaand Pujan written in 1999 from a well known writer of India Naresh Sonee. Notability issue could be sorted/verified out from this site-
 * http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/ . Acquainting you here, Wikibin engine had captured these two sites from Wikipedia. They are as
 * http://wikibin.org/articles/brhmaand-pujan.html
 * http://wikibin.org/articles/naresh-sonee.html
 * However one can come across infinite hits on search engines about Naresh Sonee or Brhmaand Pujan

Your good selves can go through the same and verifiy for assertments. The author has introduced a self based unique logical philosophy one of it's kind. Presently, how can I re put some information again on wikipedia. As time & again it get deleted on bias by a certain community in wiki ? Can you put my case/cause across wikiIndian portal members or Chairman of wikipedia? Or if possible can you put the same pages again by editing them as required picking up from wikibin promoting the same. Regard —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dralansun (talk • contribs) 15:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:WP:INDIA Newer workgroups support
The banner supports these workgroups now, Assam, Orissa, Haryana and Uttar Pradesh. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 16:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Living Stream Ministry
Hi Tinucherian,

I am reporting the user:Angrygirl to you now after I have exhausted all my futile actions, as you are one of the main co-ordinators on the "Wikiproject Christianity". This user is inserting his/her false hostility into the article, Living Stream Ministry. I had previosuy requested another "Admin", user:GRBerry to protect the article. He blocked the article from editing for 7 days, hoping that some mutual agreement would result in between. Nothing happened, there is no communication from the other side! I put some of the facts in the article's discussion page to support my reverting of his/her edits, and also left a comment on her/his user's talk page regarding that. If you review the history of the events, on user:Angrygirl's page, article's talk page, Mr. GRBerry's talk page, and my talk page, you can understand the situation better and in detail. Please do something! Thanks.

Yours faithfully,

HopeChrist (talk) 05:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

A little assistance
Hi Tinucherian, This user repeatedly uploads copyright violation images. He appears to be from your state, as his main focus is malayalam films. Warning him doesn't seem to work as he keeps blanking his talk page. Can you look into this? - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 05:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Cherian pls read the message 3 para above & help me out pls
--Dralansun (talk) 09:57, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

reply
-- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 01:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Your RfA
Thanks :-) Xavexgoem (talk)

Read -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 01:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

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Meghna River
Greetings. I'm curious why Meghna River falls under WP:India/Manipuri workgroup. The river is formed *inside* Bangladesh, and didn't find any mention of Manipur in the article. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 06:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I still cant how this came in... :( It was collected using Category:Manipur ... But I couldnt find out any related cats... Either Awb or wikipedia is behaving weird :D. Thanks for pointing this to me. Sorry for the incovienance -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 06:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

WP Computing
Greetings. You are receiving this note as you are a member of this WikiProject. Currently there is not much of activity in the project and I am hoping to revive the project with your help. I have made a few changes to the project page Diff. You are welcome to make suggestions of improvement / changes in the design. I have also make a proposal to AutoTagg articles with WikiProject Computing for the descendant wikiprojects articles also. Please express your opinion here -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Software

 * Thanks for the invite... I have joined -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Your bot's gone crazy
Your TinucherianBot has gone crazy marking every telecom page as a computing project page. Please turn it off. — Dgtsyb (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you give an example ? It uses computer or computing/computer related articles specified here . I have stopped the bot for now till investigation -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 11:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Examples:
 * M3UA
 * INAP
 * ISDN User Part
 * Camel Application Part
 * Circuit switching
 * Circuit identification code
 * M3UA again.
 * Channel Associated Signaling
 * Common Channel Signaling
 * Network Indicator
 * Service Control Point
 * SIGTRAN
 * Also it has been tagging every computer networking article as a computing article, which isn't really appropriate either. — Dgtsyb (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see the goals and scope of WP:COMPUTING Project and this discussion. Computer networking project is a descendent of the main project of Computer / Computing ....Your said articles are related to Computer networks and definitely falls under WP:COMPUTING -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 11:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked at it, and, no, these are Telecommunications project articles. These are primarily signalling protocols that telephone switches use to pass control between each other.  They are not computer networking articles. — Dgtsyb (talk) 11:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * For example if you see SIGTRAN, see the cat Category:Computer network stubs and the stub msg "This computer network-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it " . Thatz why the bot is tagging the article -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * M3UA and SIGTRAN might be borderline, but the rest on the list above are Signaling System 7 related protocols that are definitely not computer-networking. Why are they being tagged?  — Dgtsyb (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * For example, Circuit switching. Why is this being tagged? — Dgtsyb (talk) 12:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * As I said earlier, the Bot is doing based on computer related categories. The other articles comes under Category:Application layer protocols or Category:Physical layer protocols which is computer related ..Should you wish so, you may remove inappropriate categories from the articles -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, and the ITU-T all but invented OSI. Computer Networking protocols fit into the OSI model, but that does not mean that all protocols that fit into the OSI model are computer networking protocols.  For example, Signaling System 7 maps onto the OSI model per ITU-T Recommendation Q.1400], but it is not a computer networking protocol.  Just because a voice circuit is at the Physical Layer of the OSI model, does not make it a computer networking concept. — Dgtsyb (talk) 12:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for invitation... Tell me the work i can help u if i know ... Naveenpf (talk) 08:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Software
I have identified the following task to do.

Thanks,

Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (talk) 09:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Dalit section needs a LOT of changes
the dalit section of wikiproject india is incredibly inaccurate. there are a lot of misconceptions. i really want to be incharge of the dalit section because my great great gradfather was in some ways a dalit. there are a lot of inaccuracies in the article. i have added a couple of changes in the article, still a lot more changes need to be made. also i dont feel that majority of the references were correct (there are inaccurate articles written by journalists and others who have no idea about indians).

even the caste system of india section was not good. for some reason people want to demonize indians yet no one would ever talk about caste system in ancient egypt and how badly the slaves were treated, or how badly the peasants were treated in english kingdoms etc. anyway i understand that the section deals with indians only so people would not refer to others but still.

i would really want to be in charge of the dalit section of wikiproject india i feel that i can give a better understanding to foreigners about dalits. the article needs a lot of changes. could you give me a chance at moderating the dalit section of wikiproject indian?? thanks

pls let me know my email address is 100hahaha@gmail.com Arjuna316 (talk) 21:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Review of Merger proposal
Hi Tinu, The merger proposal of Thomas Kuzhinapurath and Daivajanam is months old now. Would you please help to decide up on the proposal.Simon Cheakkanal (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists
Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot. Please offer your thoughts thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Your bot is tagging crypto talk pages
Your bot User:TinucherianBot is tagging talk pages of crypto articles with " ". Please don't tag pages that are already tagged with " ".

I think the reason your bot is tagging those pages is that the category "Cryptographic protocols" is listed at User:TinucherianBot/Autotagg/WPCOMP.

Also see the message I left for you at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing.

--David Göthberg (talk) 13:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied at the project page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Dear frnd, thanks for bringing your concern to your attention....Please understand these are done in in good faith . We do understand All cryptography is not computer /computing . Only Category:Cryptographic protocols are tagged which falls under the scope of this project. With primary objective of wikiprojects is to improve articles in their scope , why is this serious objections? It is understandable if articles are wrongly tagged that doesnt fall under the scope of the project. We have taken note of your concern ..... Please understand that with this tagging effort , we have tagged around 8000 newer articles that didn't even have a talk page , let alone the other wikiproject tagging.  This reveals the potential of this project. Please read the section on the discussion on the scope and goals of this project  -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 15:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * See my response and explanation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing.
 * --David Göthberg (talk) 16:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have now unblocked TinucherianBot, since you have now answered my questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing and agreed to not continue the tagging of "descendant WikiProjects" talk pages, until a new consensus has been reached.
 * --David Göthberg (talk) 02:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: WP:COMPUTING Invitation
Thank you very much! I don't even know how I over looked that! tabor -drop me a line 16:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:WP:COMPUTING Invite
Tinu, Thanks for the invite....but I will not be able participate. India project takes up all the time I spend here..:) Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 03:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Chaunk
Hello, thank you for tagging those food articles.

Could you add the Malayalam name (with Malayalam script) for Chaunk under "Names in various languages," and also check the names in other South Indian languages? Many thanks, Badagnani (talk) 07:36, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you... for the above article, I am not aware of the Malayalam name, but I will do a research and update it .. Thanks -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 13:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

My guess is, as with my previous interactions with Indian Wikipedians, that you are male, and thus are exiled from the kitchen and don't know these terms. It's funny how each society and culture is actually not one but two! Here in America, men mostly know barbecuing, and women know the rest of the cooking techniques. Badagnani (talk) 07:00, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Good guess...I just love good food, But I shud confess I am a very bad cook when compared to my wife   :) -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 07:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

My edits.
Thank you for the caution, though I am not sure yet which are the offending edits. I will find them out. I am slow being new to the computer. A quick look informs me that you are not happy with the Ved Prakash reference and the Tapasyananda quote. But both are scholars and experts on the St. Thomas legend. Ved Prakash attends seminars and gives papers on Indian history. Their conclusions are authoritative. Certainly more so than Medleycott whose fictionalized history is not neutral but extensively quoted in the article. I sought to give an alternative point of view. You may also consider that the St. Thomas legend as it is known in Chennai, is deeply offensive to Hindus in that it makes Hindus the murderous villains of the story. Because you ignore it in the article does not make it go away. And where is neutrality here? The charge can legitimately be countered. I agree that a direct quote from Tapasyananda is inappropriate. But I request that you consider allowing their book references to stand so that they are listed for future study. Having a complete bibliography gives authority and prestige to the article, and also proves your neutrality. If there are more edits in doubt, please let me know by email at <venavarcas@gmail.com>. I am more likely to check the email than the article's talk or history. Thanks. Vena Varcas (talk) 12:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Re:WP:1.0 Categories
1. Where can I find the Kingboy plugin for User:Kingboyk/Wikipedia_Assessments_-_Category_creation_plugin ??
 * Kingboyk plugin is not available for download. Till now, I had been creating assessment categories using the Generate categories page. Only admins can use that feature since the page is protected. I took Kingboyk's code and updated it as a new plug-in. It will generate all the categories needed. I have not yet released the plug-in. I will release after some more testing.

2. Once the categories are done, do I need to dummy page like Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Bihar articles by quality , Because without that even though I ran Bihar here , it was not doing so ... -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 09:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The manual run is not working. I have alerted Oleg about it. Bihar did complete in the nightly run. You don't have to add a dummy page. Once the categories are created, the "by quality" and "by importance" categories will need to be placed under Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments. The bot will take over from that point.

Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 16:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK thanks. i tried Generate categories page and saw it was protected. Ya. Manual run had problems... Let us wait for the normal run. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 17:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have added download links to page. Can you try creating categories for the Union Territories? You can use the sample XML file and use File - Open Settings. Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 19:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That was gr8.... I completed the rest of the categories for the union territories -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Are the new workgroups supported by User:Kingbotk/Plugin. If yes how can i download it or update the AWB. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  03:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope.... Not yet... I have placed a request for the same here -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject India assessment run
I notice that Category:Unassessed-Class India articles now has over 12,000 pages in it (!), a substantial number of which have been assessed by other projects. As User:Bot0612 is sitting idle, I was wondering whether another assessment run would be a good idea to help clear the backlog (even if only slightly) and leave the way clear for human assessors. It would do exactly the same thing as last time (the process has not changed). <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 16:36, June 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hold on... there is an assessment drive that is gng on in the project... Unassessed articles are assigned to individuals for manual tagging ( and adding workgroups also ). Hence we will do this excersie once this is over. Anyways thanks a lot . I will get back to u soon-- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 17:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, just drop me a line when you want me to start. <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 17:34, June 22, 2008 (UTC)

How can u tag the new workgroups using AWB?
Hi! you are doing excellent jobs. i have seen that u r tagging the new workgroups using AWB. Can u tell me how u r doing this. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  01:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for you kind works.

This is how to tag for workgroups using AWB... 1) Download AWB from AWB . You need to get AWB approval to use this. You can do this here . If approved, your name will be added to the CheckPage . Await for the approval before using AWB. 2) Extract it to a folder. 3) Kingbotk/Plugin that comes with AWB is very useful for adding WP India and its workgroups. Move the plugin .dll file to AWB folder . Start AutoWikiBrowser.exe and File (Top selection menu) > Log in . Give your wikipedia Login username and passwd . 4) Select from AWB, Plugins (Top selection menu) > Load Plugins > Kingbotk AWB Plugin.dll 5) Now you get Kingbotk AWB Plugin at Plugins Tab, select "India Plugin" 6) Now Select "Make from Category" then enter a category name 7) Click "Make list", let the list load up. 8) Do " Remove dupes" and "Filter out non main space " 9) "Convert to talk pages " 10) If you want to tag for supported workgroups in Kingbotk AWB Plugin, you may find it at the "India" Tab at bottom section( once Kingbotk AWB Plugin is loaded). Checking the appropriate checkbox for the workgroup will automatically add the workgroup parameters in WP India, if not already present ( Note : Be careful here not to select the wrong workgroup also). 11) Dont forget to give appropriate Edit summary in the "Start" Tab. 12) Unselect "Non existentpages" 13) Go to the Plugin Tab ( bottom) and click "Start the Process". 14) Click "Save" if u r ok with the changes else click 'Ignore'. 15) If the workgroup is not supported , Dont select any of the checkboxes, Start the process, add the new workgroup parameters (_manually_) in the Edit Box on the bottom section right. and then save

Have fun. Let me know if you have any doubts -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 04:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This is for adding the WP India or the wg paramaters. You can use this to do the assessments also very easily by checking the "Assess" in the Plugin tab ... -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 04:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, i cannot find the option u said in step 9, moreover if the page is already tagged, how can i add additional parameters. Amartyabag   TALK2ME  05:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Once you have made the list from the category, right click the list and you will find "Filter out non main space " and "Convert to talk pages " . click both of them. This is to make sure you are tagging only main space article talk pages.

Additional parameters ? Do did notice a "India" tab (once you have loaded the kingboyk plugin and selected the india plugin...) Within "india" tab, you see India1 and India2 ? For adding "|kerala=yes|kerala-importance=", you need to select "Kerala" in "India1" sub tab. While Tagging for workgroups, PLEASE MAKE SURE that you have made a list from the appropriate category only ( say like Category:Kerala. DONT use recursive category listing ( it may be dangeorus if you are not very very very careful ) .. If you dont select any of the workgroup option, the plugin will only add (if not already present) and you need to save the page...Btw Read also User:Kingbotk/Plugin/User_guide before using kingboyk plugin -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Seeing your contribs, I hope it helped...The only thing to note is to be very careful in selecting categories... DONT list from categories recurisively  .. You wont expect Category:World War II as a subcategory inside deep Category:India when tagging for WP India right ? but I have seen that ... -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, now i am able to use the AWB to tag. Amartyabag   TALK2ME  00:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You r welcome.. Did you figure out how to do assessments very easily also with AWB +Kingboyk Plugin ??


 * Thanks for your help, today i have done the initial tagging of Nagaland and Puducherry as well as ran the WP 1.0 bot. Amartyabag   TALK2ME  10:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw that.. Good work... btw for tagging for supported workgroups and simple india tagging you can create a bot account, file an BRFA ( as Ganesh told) and do.. It will make your hands free without any need of saving each article.... -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the barnstar. It would have not been possible without your help and inspiration. Will soon create a bot account. But the main problem with it that i have very basic programming knowledge in VB, oracle, Blue J and C++. I don't have the required codes for the process. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  15:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)