User talk:TonyTheTiger/Archive 41

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ABCs
I was poking around and found this: "The order in which categories are placed on a page is not governed by any single rule (for example, it does not need to be alphabetical, although partially alphabetical ordering can sometimes be helpful). Normally the most essential, significant categories appear first. If an article has an eponymous category (see below), then that category should be listed first of all. For example, Category:George Orwell is listed before other categories on the George Orwell page." - Categorization. Good luck on the page. If all it takes is one section you should have it quick. I also don't expect many editors to be concerned with your sourcing. Newspapers are better than blogs and primary sources any day. I wouldn't expect anything else unless he is coming out with an autobiography.

In regards to Qwest, you pushing in a couple sections + getting a hard time for commas made it better. I'm pretty confident that even if it fails now it will be OK sooner or later. Thanks. Cptnono (talk) 13:45, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Jay Pritzker Pavilion
I also saw the PR had finally been archived - made a comment just now on the talk page, will try and finsih the alt text today. Thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So what is the approximate schedule for FAC? I thought I would take a week and not look at the article and then read it with fresh(er) eyes. Is the at feasible, or should I ask someone else to look at it? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 05:07, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks, I might ask someone else to look at it too. I worry I missed things. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

David Molk GAC
Re-replied. Wizardman 06:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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Tb
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I'm Abused!
What did I ever do to you guys? Why is my writing a constant sin?

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Cleanup
You had asked me if Xenobot can de-tag some categories (it can), did you ever compile the list? –xenotalk 19:37, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The task is running on but you might want to manually review. Stuff like Talk:1990 Plainfield tornado seem to be relevant to the project but are caught in the net I've been given for detagging. Since I'm using Xenobot and not Xenobot Mk V, you can use "rollback" to undo the detag and go back to Mk V's tag. –xeno<sup style="color:black;">talk  23:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

It appears as I was moving the hook, Jake Wartenburg promoted the queue. I believe if you would really prefer the hook being held he may be able to replace it. I would not worry to much on the article not being completely finished and with the low level of nominations, verified hooks are going to make it the main page more swiftly then the usual 7 to 10 days. Kindly Calmer  Waters  03:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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 * Replied at T:TDYK Materialscientist (talk) 01:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied again with. Please correct the phrasing if you agree with ALT3. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 04:59, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Million Dollar Challenge
Tony,

Got your message and since I'm new to Wikipedia I'm a bit confused. I'm one of the producers of the show and all the information is accurate, so why would you remove the contents? Do you work for Wikipedia? Thanks for clarifying this for me... —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokerPlayingPadre (talk • contribs) 23:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I circumvented Wikipedia procedures, but as I said, this was my first - and probably my last - foray into the world of Wikipedia.   I was merely trying to provide all the relevant information about the show, including a description, episode breakdown and host bios.  It's your page, so if you decide that some of that information doesn't belong then so be it.  I'm not looking to do battle with Tony The Tiger.  Thanks for keeping the pages of Wikipedia safe...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokerPlayingPadre (talk • contribs) 00:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Noticed that you took down most of the content. Just one question, I understand removing the bio information, production information, etc., but what was wrong with the episode breakdown?  Again, I'm a Wiki rookie, so any explanation would be appreciated.  Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokerPlayingPadre (talk • contribs) 18:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Saw the recent additions to the page, looks great, thanks much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokerPlayingPadre (talk • contribs) 20:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Here's Daniel Negreanu's response to Doyle Brunson as it appeared on the website twoplustwo. Thought you could put this underneath Doyle's criticism.  Thanks!


 * http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/37/televised-poker/pokerstars-million-dollar-challenge-next-airing-4-30pm-et-fox-sun-dec-13-a-604207-post13742057/?highlight=#post13742057 —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokerPlayingPadre (talk • contribs) 21:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

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Ernest Hemingway
Apologize for taking so long to respond. Wanted to consider how to proceed. I'll go to peer review when the cleanup is complete, and in the meantime will split off this section. Is there a specific protocol for naming works pages? Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Michigan Wolverines men's track and field
I have started a page on Michigan track and field. If I recall correctly, you have an interest in this area, having written articles about Thomas Wilcher and others. I've made some progress about the early years, but the article could definitely use your help, should you have an interest. Cbl62 (talk) 06:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

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Building consensus on copyright issue
I would like to get your viewpoint - I'm trying to find community consensus on a gray area of copyrighted designs of buildings. If you can, please let me know at what point you feel these images should be replaced here. Thank you so much! DR04 (talk) 19:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:maps
OpenStreetMaps is pretty amazing. Having it as a source for free map images is incredibly valuable for most of our Chicago related articles. I added a map for Armour Square, Chicago. I'll create some more too if I have some time later. --<font color="#000000">T <font color="#993300">orsodo <font color="#000000">g Talk 02:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Template:NCAATeamSeason
I'm not terribly experienced at editing templates, but it looks like something I could probably figure out pretty easily. Might want to wait for a bit of discussion on whether people think it's a good idea or if there are concerns about "infobox bloat". And there are probably others who are watching that talk page who are more experienced than I am and could add it in just a few seconds, but I'll take a look tomorrow to see what it entails. Thanks for the heads-up. WildCowboy (talk) 04:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Jay Pritzker Pavilion
At Ruhrfisch's suggestion I am doing a prose review for this article, spread over several days. My comments can be found on the article's talkpage. Brianboulton (talk) 01:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw your suggestion on Brianboulton's talk page and was BOLD and opened Peer review/Jay Pritzker Pavilion/archive2. I have copied the helpful talk page comments there, thanks, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 11:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw the additions - thanks for the heads up. I think it is great to add more. Will take a look - I read all the online sources about the Montgomery Ward height restrictions - most of them relate to the Children's Museum and only tangentially touch on Millennium Park. I could not check Gilfoyle's book - do you know if he has more on it as a "controversy"? I am trying to think of a word other than controversy to use for the section. Any ideas? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:58, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I am done with my copyedits - I think it was good not to have looked at it for a week - and think it is about as ready as it can be for FAC. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - someone might want a ref in the lead for the last remaining concert series, but I figure wait and see if it comes up at FAC and add it then if needed. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I trust your judgment. This edit counter shows you have roughly 300 edits to the article, i have roughly 100 edits, and the next highest person has 16 (Michael Devore). Torsodog is 5th with 6 edits, but I would definitely thank him in the FAC nom for the picture and PR help. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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McCormick Tribune PR
I will take another look at it in the next day - thanks for the heads up. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Wiki run is over
I need to call it quits in Wiki. It was fun.

Thanks for the Chicago articles. Its what Wiki is all about.

Pknkly (talk) 11:55, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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Congratulations!
I just saw Today's featured article/December 27, 2009 - congrats! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

USHL Map
I've updated the USHL map. If it doesn't appear correctly, try CTRL+F5 (or whatever cache-bypass reload is in your browser) and it should update. It shouldn't be a problem since I changed the size but the server can be weird sometimes.  vıd ıoman  03:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Inauguration of Obama
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Brandon Sharp
Because he never played in an NFL game.--Yankees10 01:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * No that is not the case. Unless the player had a notable college career or played professionaly then they arent notable.--Yankees10 01:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * (ec) We've brought this up a few times see the latest discussion]]. And related AfDs on Jaison Williams, Mark Lewis and Terrance Stringer.--<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants <font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27 ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 01:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

GAR
Hello, TonyTheTiger. Near South Side, Chicago has a Good Article Reassessment here. GamerPro64 (talk) 05:20, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I only do that when an editor is inactive or doesn't have the time to fix the problems. GamerPro64 (talk) 15:16, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

First off, that's how I do my reassessments. Secondly, though its off topic, can you nominate someone for the WP:FOUR award? I know someone who meets the requirements and I think he deserves the award.
 * Fine. After this review, I'll tell Wikiprojects about GARs. Also, thanks for answering my question. GamerPro64 (talk) 21:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah but I'm nominating someone for the FOUR award right now. GamerPro64 (talk) 21:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * O.k, I told the Wikiprojects about Near South Side, Chicago's GAR. GamerPro64 (talk) 22:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Added extention. Also, if your not too busy, can you review The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay's FAC? It really needs one. GamerPro64 (talk) 23:38, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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Chicago external links
A new user has been trying to place external links to Forgotten Chicago on the Chicago main page, and undid my reversion. I personally see the external link as being uncalled for there, per WP:USCITY and WP:LINKFARM. In order to prevent an edit war, I was wondering if you could jump in with your opinion. Thanks much --BaronLarf 05:52, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:MichiganWolverineQuarterbacks
You had asked me a while back to help fill out the Michigan QB template. I finally got around to it, and I've also started filling in article for some of the key missing QBs. I added Tod Rockwell yesterday and Don Moorhead today. Cbl62 (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * A note on scope: There are dozens of additional players who have started anywhere from one to five games at QB.  To keep the template manageable, I suggest it be limited to players who have started at least a half dozen games at the position.  For this reason, I deleted Sheridan (4 starts), Casey (4 starts), Mallett (3 starts) and Chappuis (0 starts).  I'd also be inclined to drop Zurburgg (5 starts).  Cbl62 (talk) 03:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Clearly, Mallett is a star, but if you include him in the template, you're using subjective feelings of importance. Not sure how you could include Mallett, who only started three games at Michigan, and not list the other 30 or more QBs who also have had small numbers of starts.  I think you have to draw the line somewhere and draw it objectively.  Six starts strikes me as a good, objective criteria.  It's not really feasible to go by wins, because we don't have good historical data on number of wins per QB, whereas we do have good data for games started.  How would you propose drawing the line?  Cbl62 (talk) 06:58, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope you are right about Mallett. That could be the final nail in the coffin of the Rodriguez debacle. ...  And if we're going to go with six starts, I'll go ahead and delete five-starter Chris Zurbrugg.  Cbl62 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In addition to Rockwell and Moorhead, I have also now added articles for Ted Topor, Dick Vidmer, Bill Putich, Howard Yerges and Joseph Ponsetto. If you care to add anything, your assistance is, as always, appreciated. Cbl62 (talk) 08:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Holidays to all my watchers
Peace, Love and Happiness to all my watchers.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:17, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Attorney Richard Fine
Tony, I posted about Attorney Fine under the biography of Ronald George, California Supreme COurt Chief Justice. http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Ronald_George I posted about SBX2 11 as well. I live in Maine. The U.S. Supreme Court denied Fine's cert petition, on October 5 actually, the same day I got a question through on C-Span about it. You can get to that post which has a link to the C-Span special on the Supreme Court by clicking on older posts. www.dirtydecisions.com ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarthaMitchell (talk • contribs) 21:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Tai Streets
Hi there, I see you made a major expansion to the Tai Streets article. I'm trying to help clean it up a bit, since it's now a bit on the long side. If you wouldn't mind, make sure I don't accidentally delete the wrong ref. Great effort! I'll follow that talk page if you have any comments. Iamnothuman (talk) 12:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Bowl game odds

 * User:24.255.213.249 continues to list the odds for bowl game with "-points", the standard has been "by points". Even with a "dash' is not correct. Newspapers list the team and then separate with a "'" and the points. Can we do something about this? Using "by" is the proper way, just look at previous years. Bband11th (talk) 18:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Albert Pattengill
If you have a chance, check out the new article on Albert Pattengill. It's one of my favorite discoveries on a relative unknown who contributed much to the history of the Michigan Wolverines. Cbl62 (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Tony, I recall that you once found a way to place two images side-by side. I would like to do that with the images of Yost and Jordan in the Pattengill article.  Could you point me in the right direction on how to do that? Cbl62 (talk) 01:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Thanks. Cbl62 (talk) 02:07, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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Brandon Harrison (American football, born 1986)
I noticed that a deletion notice has been added to the above article on a recent Wolverine football player. Given your interest in recent Michigan football players, I thought you might be interested in taking a look to see if you think the article is worth salvaging. Cbl62 (talk) 06:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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Image concerns
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 * Hmm, but my understanding was that for Wiki purposes, the non-free was the important part in respect of derivative works.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are multiple copyright claims on the image, but, regardless of your own release, the image itself is still to be considered non-free, and must meet all of our non-free content criteria. It's good to note that the image has been released in the rationale/description, but as the image must be treated as non-free, the only copyright tag should be the non-free one. J Milburn (talk) 23:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, look fine- the important thing is that there is no confusion that the images are free. J Milburn (talk) 00:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Those look fine, The wording you've used should be the 'standard' on all images with this particular issue :), you would also be well advised to check your other contributions :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:45, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Colbert
Woulda' believe I was gonna' do it first thing in the morning, and in the meantime could hope people actually invested in an article could read a talk page? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 03:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

FAC
Sorry, will do now. 08:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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