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WikiCup 2013 June newsletter
We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

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GA Review
Hi. I have nominated Majura Parkway for GA. I tried to address all the feedback in the failed review at Talk:Majura Parkway/GA1, and double checked to make sure it complied with GA criteria. As I'm a still learning contributor as far as GAs go, and I know you have a lot of experience with GAs/FACs. I was wondering if you could review Majura Parkway. (I have also asked User:Wizardman, User:Nick-D and User:Hawkeye7 if they could review.) I would like to improve my ability to get through GA faster, increase my understanding of the GA criteria, and would appreciate a comprehensive review. -- Nbound (talk) 11:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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Could I trouble you for advice?
Hi. I was wondering if you would do me a favour. I've not been through the FA process in a very long time, and I think Superman lost its star a while back. I'm looking to get Crystal Palace F.C. and History of Crystal Palace F.C. up to FA level in time for the new football season because I'd like to see if I can get one of them on the main page in time for the new season which starts Saturday 17 August 2013. What steps do I need to take, and would you be prepared to comment at Peer review/Crystal Palace F.C./archive1 or give a Good Article review of History of Crystal Palace F.C.. Appreciate any pointers you can spare the time to give. Thanks, Hiding T 14:23, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. With Crystal Palace F.C. I looked at other Football Featured Articles and adopted the style and length they had, so I hope it compares well with Aston Villa F.C., Arsenal F.C. and particularly Norwich City F.C. who are a club of similar stature. With the offer of a GA review, I guess I am in a hurry so while I appreciate the offer I'll have to pass. Is my goal realistic, to try and get these featured and on the main page in just under six weeks? Do I have to go through the Good Article process first or can I just go and nominate for FA now? Hiding T 17:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Frank Lloyd Wright
Hi. Is there a good reason not to have Frank Lloyd Wright autocollapsed? It's quite a large template and takes up a good portion of the page. Viriditas (talk) 00:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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Dia dos Namorados
Someone just reminded me that I'd never replied to you at Template:Did you know nominations/Dia dos Namorados. I've approved the nomination; I don't see anything else holding it up. I apologise for the delay, which was purely the result of me forgetting to check back. Nyttend (talk) 21:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Dia dos Namorados
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Rail
Hi Tony. I am intending on a more descriptive, less misleading classification for Britain's railways. Please give your thoughts as to how we can improve the current classification at the railways template where you have been a contributor. Adam37 (talk) 15:15, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

DG
Just a heads up, my comments still on the FAC page are those for which I feel a response is necessary. The others are already on the talk page.

BTW, Lie Kim Hok should be eligible for a Four Award; looks like you missed it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Used your name
I mentioned your name at Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard 2nd section. The guy could use your help, but I'm not sure if it was best to send him to you. Anything I can do to help, just let me know. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 19:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Comic sources
You've probably tried this already, but you could google image search the comic book and issue number. You could also try torrents, or post at WT:COMIC for help, someone there may already have the issues one way or another. I don't torrent so I'm not much use. Hope that's of use. Hiding T 19:47, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

FIBA
Hey, right now i don't know. Would need to search for it but i consider that a good source as it is from FIBA. Kante4 (talk) 20:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry
Hi Tony, I just wanted to say sorry as I've been away from Wikipedia for a few months and during that time I missed a couple of messages from you on my talk page. —Jeremy (talk) 21:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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Tony, I've replied there, can you review the nomination now? Thanks. -- Zayeem (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added the wikilink in the article as per your suggestion, please review the nomination. Thanks.-- Zayeem (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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Blue dress
Hey, it wasn't whitewashing, just something that I'd come across fairly regularly when it came to AfDs. Just because a site isn't outright blacklisted doesn't mean that it's usable as a reliable source. It's actually a pretty common thing that comes up at the reliable sources noticeboard, as people frequently ask about its usability. The problem is that since it is considered a tabloid (at best) or an attack paper that has fabricated stories (at worst) for the most part, what it can be used for is fairly slim. See this, this, and this. Basically my point is that it's such a point of contention when it comes to sources that when it comes down to it, it's not something you should really count on as far as saving an article goes. Maybe there's no official consensus, but it'd be near impossible to use it to really save an article because a vast majority of editors agree that the newspaper is of exceptionally low quality when it comes to reporting stuff. I think it's actually considered to be worse than Fox News, which is saying a lot. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   14:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Peer review/Whaam!/archive1
I archived it per your request. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Drowning Girl
Congratulations, Tony, on getting Drowning Girl promoted. I don't do nearly as much ad hoc peer reviewing as I used to, but I will always try and respond to a timely request, particularly from editors with whom I have worked in the past. You can bear that in mind for the future. Brianboulton (talk) 17:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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Whaam! as a TFA possibility
FYI, my note to self. But don't let this put you off nominating it at TFAR in due course! Good luck. BencherliteTalk 20:44, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Pilot (Devious Maids)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Gathy, Athanasios Polychronopoulos, Marco Johnson and Matthew Ashton
Hi Tony. Good work on the six poker articles. Have a look at my review comments at the template; just a couple of points before I can mark as fully verified. Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!)  21:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Ariel Investments
You did an article on one of the founders--do you think you could help this new article a little. I added enough to keep it from speedy, but more is needed, and you seem to know the material.  DGG ( talk ) 04:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorga Ka Toedjoe
should be eligible for a four award, but something's wonky. Could you find out why the category's not showing? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:00, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Frank Underwood and Chapter 1
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ANI
You are clearly aware of this thread. I am only noting, for the record, that you having reached 5RR in 24 hours has also been noted there, with the bright-line rule consequences very much hanging over your head. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:36, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013
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 * Tony, hang in there. You've got some very clear ideas about what's best for WP:FOUR, and I greatly appreciate all that you've done for content improvement, but the above demonstrates that you're currently out of step with things.  I value you, and I don't want to see this dispute end your curation of a unique and compelling award. Let me know if I can help mediate anything. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 06:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know that the ANI and the block indicates that TonyTheTiger is "out of step" with anything, unless being disconnected from a cabal of crazyiness by out of control administrators counts. IMHO, the ANI proceeding and the Four award Talk page seemed to show that TTT was victim of some crazyness, with negative jabbing and poor behavior by others within the ANI.  TTT reverting clearly-out-of-order changes to the Four Award page seems justified as removal of what is effectively vandalism, IMHO.  I think TTT being blocked is awful.  I am personally rather ashamed of what a lot of Wikipedia has become;  i no longer am willing to recommend to others that they should consider contributing, because of the predictably awful treatment they will likely receive.  Turning on solid contributors like TTT who administers a purely positive award system, is just an awful example.  Blaming TTT for being out of touch with a crazy, harassing clique of ANI frequenters, is, well, unfair. -- do  ncr  am  19:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Brattata
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DYK for Jet Pilot (Roy Lichtenstein)
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DYK for Mr. Bellamy
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Re: Wikipedia e-mail
The problem wasn't in the four parameter, the problem was that Crisco had accidentally filled in action1result wrong. The documentation for says that the "result" for a GAN action has to be one of either   or , but Crisco had put   instead. Therefore, the part of the template that looks for possible 4-award articles didn't recognize this one.

I may be able to update it to recognize "promoted" as well as "listed" (even though that's not the correct way to fill out the template). r ʨ anaɢ (talk) 18:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2012–13 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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Bus Stop
I had no idea you were blocked. Neither you nor Hiding were responding, so I assumed the both of you were just watching from the sidelines.

Bus Stop has twice reverted his responses to my last comment. I have no idea if s/he still intends to respond, but as of right now, there isn't anything for me to respond to. Curly Turkey (gobble) 21:07, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll try to find the time in the next day or two to look over the article again. I've wasted so much time "debating" Bus Stop that I have no idea what state the article is currently in.  Curly Turkey (gobble) 06:52, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Kellyn Tate
I replied a couple weeks ago to your question at Template:Did you know nominations/Kellyn Tate. Can you take another look? Cbl62 (talk) 17:36, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!
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Faust
Probably you're already watching, but in case not: I've left a note on Template talk:Faust. Cheers. Phil wink (talk) 05:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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DYK Question
Hello, I'm hoping you can help with this question (seems everyone at DYK is offline). Would the WBSC (AM) article be eligible for DYK in it's current state? I have updated the article with a TON of information, but not sure if it is 5x or not. Thanks in advance. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 08:07, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 July newsletter
We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's currently leads overall, while Pool B's  is second. Both leaders are WikiCup veterans, and both have already scored over 600 points this month. If the round were to end today,, with 274 points, would be the lowest-scoring participant to make it through. This indicates that participants will need a score comparable to last year's (573, the highest ever) to qualify for the final. The high scores this year are a testament both to the quality of participants and to the increased focus on significant content (eligible for bonus points) in this year's competition. So far this round, both Sasata and have made up over half of their score through bonus points, with, for example, high importance FA koala earning Sasata a total of 440 points (from a multiplier of 4.4) and high-importance GA sea earning Cwmhiraeth a total of 216 points (from a multiplier of 7.2). Other articles on important topics submitted this round include a featured article on the Norman conquest of England by, and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by, and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.

Other than that, there is not much to report! If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)