User talk:UtherSRG/Archive 3

Speedy deletion declined: Zirve 2010
Hello UtherSRG. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Zirve 2010, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A9 requires that the artist does not have an article and that there are no claims of importance/significance regarding the musical recording itself. Thank you. Tim Song (talk) 07:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. Since that's the case, I've now redirected the album article to the artist. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

powlz.com
Hello I dont see why this page should of been deleted I am uploading it on the discussion so you can see why it shouldnt be deleted !! --Jacobhasnopens (talk) 11:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Do not do that. It is not needed. We can see the deleted page and judge based on that. You seem to be unable to comply with our policies and procedures. Stop being a nuisance or I will block your account. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

The Mentor Philosophers
Please disambiguate the updated list of philosophers at The Mentor Philosophers. Thanks for doing the first ones. Cosprings (talk) 15:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! Thanks for the poke. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 15:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Areapal
Hello UtherSRG. I am letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Areapal, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, Reason: This is a new page and the article is a stub, but provides sufficient context, The website is found on the search engines and has been covered by news papers i have read in India. It would be great if you could help me shape up the article and contribute to it. Since this is my 1st article there were agreeable errors. But suggestions and improvements from a Senior member like you could encourage me to contribute more to Wikipedia. Thank you. - Spoiltsport


 * Thanks for the invite, but it is outside of my area of expertise. I've been doing User:WildBot patrols, which means I catch a lot of new pages early in their development. I probably tag more than I should for deletion, but that's my nature. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok. So Can you please take the Tag for speedy deletion off the article. Any suggestions ? Thanks. - Spoiltsport (talk) 13:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

@UtherSRG. Ok fine have a good day da thevidiyapaiyaa. - Spoiltsport (talk) 16:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems you've found someone whose expertise was more along the lines of what you needed. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Mammals of India
I have nominated mammals of india for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Shyamal (talk) 02:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed! - UtherSRG (talk) 06:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Fossa (anatomy)
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 * This was a dab split. Nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you are looking for. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for your help with the article Domesticated silver fox! Chrisrus (talk) 11:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * De nada. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Help! Hints needed.
Hello,

you have deleted my page (please see below). I wanted not to preach against you rules, so I have taken another wiki-page as draft (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Bohlen). So I have built with this "template" the informations about my person, but you have removed it within one minute? why? please give me a hint! i do not know what I have done wrong, comparing with Dieter Bohlens wiki page. Thx a lot, Alex.

This was my page content:

Best Regards, Alex.


 * Don't write about yourself. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:10, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Jacques Vanneste
I wrote the article because Jacques is this year's winner of the Adams Prize, the most prestigious UK mathematics award; I think this makes him notable under notability clause 2. Would you mind undeleting it? Fivemack (talk) 18:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You were polite, and well reasoned. Yes, I'll undelete it. But you will need to cite verifiable and reliable sources on it very soon. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have no contacts in the fluid-dynamics community so have some difficulty finding which of his many papers is regarded as best; so the cites are mostly to his own paper collection, which I appreciate is not ideal; am trying to get a friend with mathscinet access to check the citations counts Fivemack (talk) 10:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The link to the award is the most important one, as that indicates notability. I've copied it from the prize's article to his article. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

King's Goanna
Thanks. (moving the header to the common name--King's Goanna. Another common name I found, so I was confirming, but this one is the best known.  I may need some help with clarifying terms such as monotypic. cheers.Bruinfan12 (talk) 01:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Let me know if you have any specific issues you need help with. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Malamanteau
This is a likely target for recreation; see XKCD. It may be a good candidate for page creation protection. Jminthorne (talk) 04:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:ISNOT an urban dictionary. XKCD just made it up. It's not a valid encylopedic entry. And even if it were a valid word, it would be a dictionary entry, so belongs on Wiktionary, not Wikipedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Clarification - I was asking if it should be protected from creation, not claiming that it is a valid article. Jminthorne (talk) 04:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL! Oh. :) In which case, I fully agree, as I salted it the second time I deleted it. :) Sorry... I get a little short-sighted sometime. You did say page creation protection the first time. My bad. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It might be less contested if you made it a redirect to xkcd and protected the page from changes. Gemini6Ice (talk) 04:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * While it might be less contested that way, it then encourages editing of xkcd to support the need for the deleted article. I don't think that's a good idea. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * A redirect should be provided. Deleting the page and redirect outside of process and then protecting the page  is simply not appropriate and gives a bad imporession to incoming visitors. Please restore the redirect. --Tothwolf (talk) 04:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. there is no need for a redirect. There is no need for the article to be created. A redirect from a bad entry encourages adding that info to the target of the redirect. Look at the delete history of the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've seen it. I had hoped you would be open to discussing this and restoring the redirect. I suppose I was mistaken and perhaps this just needs to move to DRV. --Tothwolf (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Reguarding your speedy deletion of the malamanteau page, I just looked at the criteria for speedy deletion, and it seems that this is being misused: Non-criteria The following are not by themselves sufficient to justify speedy deletion. . . . 4. Neologisms. New specialized terms should have a wider hearing.

What could be done to improve the entry? If it is citable in one of the published XKCD books? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.126.30.84 (talk • contribs)
 * WP:IAR - UtherSRG (talk) 04:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I don't understand the part "[a redirect from a bad article] encourages editing of [the redirect target] to support the need for the deleted article. Can you explain a bit more? -132.183.138.131 (talk) 05:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * What is gained by making it a redirect, but to direct people to another place where they can inappropriately put that information? - UtherSRG (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Put what information? -132.183.138.131 (talk) 05:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The information previously in malmanteau, which was essentially the text of XKCD 739. (BTW - I'm a fan of XKCD, so this isn't a slight on XKCD at all.) - UtherSRG (talk) 05:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Could U please do us non-admin users a favour by posting what time the article was originally created? Warmest Regards, :)—thecurran Speak your mind my past 05:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Already did, on the talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 06:06, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Re your screenshot, if you change the license to something like CC-BY-SA vs "all rights reserved" we can copy it to Commons and link it on the talk page. --Tothwolf (talk) 07:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, I believe I've done that now. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Commons doesn't allow the -NC (noncommercial) option of the Creative Commons license though. --Tothwolf (talk) 08:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Ok, fixed. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, uploaded to Commons as Malamanteau page history.jpg and added to the talk page. --Tothwolf (talk) 08:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm so obviously a censor... ;)

Deletion review for Malamanteau
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Malamanteau. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tothwolf (talk) 05:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Contest speedy deletion of Late Positive Component
Please undo the deletion of the Late Positive Component page. This is NOT at all original research. It is a summary of a body of research on an event-related brain potential component (brain electrical activity associated with cognitive functions, used in neuroscience research). My students are writing these pages for a course requirement, as described on the Wikipedia:School and university projects, University of Illinois, Psychology Spring 2010. As instructor, I am monitoring the pages for format and content, but did not even have a chance to read over this one before it was deleted. It may need editing to make clearer what kind of summary, which I am happy to do -- but I need to be able to access the content first! Please undelete so that I may edit (and award student their grade). Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.48.2 (talk) 05:22, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do, and I'll move it to an appropriate title. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Contesting Speedy Deletion of "Somatosensory Evoked Potential (SEP)"
Hi UtherSRG. I am not sure why you tagged my page (Somatosensory Evoked Potential (SEP))for speedy deletion. It is not original research! From what I understood this was the reason you tagged it. I'd like to contest this speedy deletion. My page is just a review of an Evoked Potential. There's very little information on SEPs in Wikipedia. So I believe my page contains useful information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heloisa Alves (talk • contribs) 05:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, and moved to a proper title. I've also left you some suggestions on the article's talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Trying to circumvent blocks?
Hi, I noticed that you added a 3-day block to User:Polishinfo so I thought you would be the best person to ask regarding the policy on users trying to circumvent blocks. This user asked on my talk page for assistance in circumventing his block by recreating the page which has been deleted. I'm not sure how this should be dealt with.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  07:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * They can edit their own talk page, and I believe they can edit any pages in their userspace. I can "userfy" the article so that you and they can work on improving it. When it's ready for "prime time" I can move it back into the main article space. Circumventing blocks is a bad thing, but this allows them a chance to work while they learn the ropes. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Having seen that one of the webpages that the original article the user created pointed to appeared to be a phishing site, I don't think I'll be collaborating on this particular article. I may be being cynical, but I expect to see more speedy deletions on my watchlist in exactly three days...  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  08:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Lovely. Well, the article now resides at User:Polishinfo/Polish Cultural Institute in Chicago - UtherSRG (talk) 08:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Blake Ian
Recreation Hi Stacey, Firstly let me apologize for the assistant working in my office who I had working on some things for me and decided to ignore the deletion / recreation process and instead just re-add the page over and over. I would like to discuss the issues which I thought I had initially taken care of myself when the page was first flagged. The subject is a very active artist with many published works. There have been articles in several major publications on the subject. The Daily News for instance was one I put in the reference section because I was able to find an online version of it. All Major credit listing sites (AllMusicGuide, IMDB etc...) list the subject and his works which span 10 years. He is well known in the music industry thru out the country.

Please let me know what other issues can be corrected and again my apologies for the way the deletion has been handled for the last few weeks, I was unaware and will be sure not to allow anyone else to log in as myself again.

Thanks, Anna —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnafPR (talk • contribs) 16:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Two things here concern me. 1. You sound like you are a PR firm working for Mr. Ian. That would mean you have failed to read WP:COI; to wit, you are not a neutral writer. 2. You have failed to read WP:V and WP:RS - you need to provide these kind of references to show his notability. Being seen near someone famous does not make someone notable. AllMusicGuide and IMDB are far from independent or reliable for our purposes. If you still feel this article should be recreated, take your concerns to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk)

1. I do not represent nor am I affiliated with Mr. Ian. I do work as a writer and was interested in contributing to Wikipedia to learn about the process and help build it. I chose and topic that I had been somewhat familiar with and then researched it. 2. I see what you mean about the Daily News article, but I have found several other articles on the subject as well. Maybe I just needed to go about citing a little better. I am surprised that inclusions in both IMDB and AMG would not be relevant, but certainly Mr. Ian's inclusion in MySpace Celebrity's list of active artists (which includes well under 500 names) should show some notability as an online personality.

I appreciate your concerns, but again as I am looking to learn and contribute in the correct way to Wikipedia, Please consider these responses.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnafPR (talk • contribs) 15:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * All information in an article should be able to be referenced with the highest scrutiny, especially when the article is about a living person. We do not wish to put false information out there, whether it makes the person look better or less than reality. As such, unreliable sources or sources that could come from non-disinterested parties must be held suspect and avoided. This includes anything that doesn't have a strict editorial review process (such as MySpace or blogs), anything that comes directly or indirectly from the subject (as it could be self-promotional or self-aggrandizing), or anything that could be tainted by the same. Ah well. Good luck in your endeavor. Feel free to bounce ideas off of me. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the response... As I said I am interested in learning the process and the proper protocols so I appreciate the info. I did try to use other articles covering similar subjects as template (ie other singer-songwriter articles). Also, so you are aware MySpace Celebrity is a separate venture and entity from the social network site. It is an online entertainment magazine with a legitimate editorial and writing staff. I will follow the next steps you suggested, as I said I have put time and effort into the research and creation of this article and would like to see it thru to have it restored. Thank you again for the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.195.212 (talk) 17:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That's interesting. I'll have to check it out. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Have you been able to look into MySpace Celebrity? If so your concerns have been met and I believe the page should be considered for recreation. Are you willing to allow the recreation? Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnafPR (talk • contribs) 00:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I would prefer you went through WP:DRV to get a larger consensus. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

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Contesting Speedy Deletion of "Comatose Society"
man i'm really new to this and still trying to figure out exactly how the wiki works, im'm not even sure if i'm doing this right, could you please explain why my article got deleted, and maybe give me some pointers on how to restore it and prevent it from being removed again? it would be much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fffrecords (talk • contribs) 07:21, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll reply on your talk page. - UtherSRG (talk)

would a cha cha answer give my page notability? cha cha knows about comatose society. Who is comatose society | ChaCha Answers Jul 5, 2009 ... ChaCha has the answer to this question: Who is comatose society Answer: Comatose Society is a band from Oklahoma. I have included a link to. www.chacha.com/question/who-is-comatose-society Fffrecords (talk) 07:35, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You can't follow direction can ya? Ok, I'll answer here. No, cha cha doesn't help you at all. Please read WP:BAND, notability, verifiability and reliable sources. To be more speciefic - we don't doubt the existance of the band. We just don't find them notable to merit an article. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Otto Divosta
hello, I recently started this article. writing encyclopedic prose is not my strongest talent, I hope you find my recent changes to be sufficient to remove this csd tag. there are plenty of sources available to show notability of the subject. Thank you, riffic (talk) 07:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh. Doesn't look very notable for me. I'll downgrade the CSD to an AFD and see what the community thinks. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Satterley up for deletion
Hello there, I noticed you put a delete page on the satterly article. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain in the talk page for the article. Let me know if you have any issues with it, as I will try and fix them up. Thanks.Visik (talk) 09:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Good luck. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
For deleting TheorecticalBullshit. Typos suck. Much appreciated. Adam in MO Talk 09:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I Killed The Prom Queen / Parkway Drive: Split CD
I've removed the speedy from this article as we have an article on both the bands involved and so I don't think it's eligible for A9. Dpmuk (talk) 14:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:IAR as the right thing to do would be a redirect if this were an album by a single band. Ah well, I'll AFD it. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * But I'm not aware of a consensus for such a deletion. Personally I think the A9 criteria are a bit too strict but with the current criteria I certainly don't think deleting this would've been in the spirit of A9.  I'd agree about the redirect problem and will probably vote delete myself but I do think it needs a wider airing.  Personally I think the whole problem of releases with multiple artist needs an airing somewhere but until that takes place I feel AfD is the only way to go.  Dpmuk (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think the CSD criteria are much too tightly controlled. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally I think it varies, for example A7/A9 are too tightly controlled but G4 is interpreted too widely. However I'm also a believer (possibly too strongly) in process hence my removal of the speedy. Dpmuk (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I flip flop on process vs. practicality. There's no "nn" CSD for things like books or movies or plays. Are they all inherently notable? I think not. Sometimes I'll tag 'em with A7, sometimes I'll leave 'em, sometimes I'll AFD 'em. mostly I just leave 'em. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As pointed out by Dpmuk, this article relates to two bands in question, both of which are notable Australian metalcore bands. The split CD in question documents a cruicial point early on in their career, where these two bands combined. Especially important is the fact that this was Parkway Drive's first release, and as the band today caters for an large international market today, a full and comprehensive discography is needed, to convey a proper understanding of the bands career. However it is a point that there is little notable online sources for this album. This is because the album is currently out of print, however Wikipedia contains pages of many albums that are out of print. However, all the information is accurate, because Parkway Drive: THE DVD provide comprehensive information on this album, even when relatively no informatione exists online. The reason I decided to create this page, was that the DVD was released, providing this extra information. I have also put this post on the AFD page for this topic. Tristwin (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not my job to prove it not notable - it's your job to provide verifiable and reliable sources showing its notability. Don't bother me here, just post on the AFD, as you have done. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, I haven't actually created an article before, or use the talk pages before, so I'm just working out how this process works. I will continue discussion on the AFD. Tristwin (talk) 07:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Malamanteau - Precedent
Hey mate, sorry to bug you on your talk page like this, but it is insanity on the article pages. What say you to this argument for keeping the Malamanteau redirect?
 * This is certainly not the first time a fictional word has been submitted to wikipedia. Famously created by The Simpsons, the word Kwyjibo now redirects to the page about the episode where it was first created. The obvious solution is to redirect this page to XKCD.-agjimenez

By that logic I feel like the redirect should stay. -Deathsythe (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. We need to wait and see what, if anything, results in the culture after at least a week. Otherwise, we're controverting WP:DENY. Any pipsqueak could come along and create a buzz with vandalism and get a mention in an article. Not good. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Discussion deletion
Howdy! You deleted the following conversation (and a number of others) with the judgment that it was 'Inappropriate': http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Malamanteau&diff=362035501&oldid=362035239 I'd like to hear your rationale. Do you assert ownership over that talk page? Regards, C HAIRBOY (☎) 13:23, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Talk pages are for discussing the article. I removed sections that were entirely about other matters. It is appropriate for anyone to keep talk pages clean in the same manner. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course, that's reasonable. I wish to make a suggestion, consider providing a little more detail in your edit summary in the future when doing this. It's plausible that there were/is/will be some folks who won't follow up for clarification who will walk away upset because they didn't understand.  An edit summary of 'inappropriate' is uninformative and, possibly, unnecessarily antagonistic under certain circumstances.  Regards, C HAIRBOY  (☎) 15:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually had posted an explanation of my actions on the talk page, but it was later removed. LOL! - UtherSRG (talk) 03:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha! Nice.  No worries, have a good one! - C HAIRBOY  (☎) 05:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The whole discussion is so broken and catty. I've asked for a neutral admin to come in and clean it up, and the RfD, but they thought I was asking for and early closure. I'm hesitant to do any more cleanup myself. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

 Chzz  ►  07:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Viewed - UtherSRG (talk) 08:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

orangutans
Hi UtherSRG I see you've been trying to sort out foraging. It's a tricky one. The forage page isn't really very orangutan: "Forage is plant material (mainly plant leaves and stems) eaten by grazing livestock," - going on to list lots of grasses and legumes.

And yet the alternatives aren't much use either. What to do? Send the link to disambiguation? Take out the wikilink altogether? What do you think?

(I see you got onto Birute Galdikas and put the primate banner on - that was quick!

All the best, --Annielogue (talk) 07:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the best bet would be to updated forage (and forage (disambiguation)) with an expansion of the term as it does seem that the term is used for eating behaviors more broadly than the given definition. I think a good place to start is to look at what links to forage and finding all the different types of foragers. Another option would be to just create forager as a decent stub, including forage and foraging as links in the text.


 * And yeah, I catch anything related to primates and put them on my watchlist. :) Then additions like Galdikas can be found and brought into the project with a tag. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 08:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

BLP PROD removed
Hi, I removed the BLP PROD tag from Kendra Scott, as that tag only applies when the article was created after 18 March 2010. Please see WP:BLPPROD for more information, or feel free to drop me a line. If you still feel the article warrants deletion, please use one of the other methods. Thanks --Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 16:19, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Διοίκηση Επιχειρησιακής Απόδοσης
Re. Διοίκηση Επιχειρησιακής Απόδοσης

It is a copy of el:Βικιπαίδεια:Αμμοδοχείο - Βικιπαίδεια so should be speedy deleted as CSD A2. Could you please put the CSD tag back? Thanks,  Chzz  ►  09:47, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Look again... I don't see that article existing, neither as your link, nor here. When submitting CSD#A2, you need to put the link for the existing article. You didn't, and I can't find it, so translate is appropriate for now. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:50, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Turns out it was a translation of Business performance management so I speedied it as A10. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Puma
Why are you reverting my removal of some borderline vandalism, and tagging my talk page as if I were a new editor? Colonies Chris (talk) 11:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It wasn't vandalism, and I'm new to using Twinkle, so I'm trying to figure out which warnings are which. Your revert was not called for, as the link was valid. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read my edit summary. The same link is already present two items lower in the list. It's a duplicate. That's why I removed it. And please add a note on my talk page withdrawing your implication of vandalism. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Your lack of an edit summary is justification enough for the warning. Do what you want with your talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I suggest you read this on the Twinkle page:

Before you start using Twinkle you really should read its documentation to familiarize yourself with some of the possibilities and functions of Twinkle. There are multitudes of options that you can configure to change some of the default behaviours of Twinkle. Never forget that you take full responsibility for any action performed using Twinkle. You must understand Wikipedia policies and use this tool within these policies, or risk having your access to use the Twinkle revoked or your being blocked.
 * If you are not willing to apologise for your incompetent use of Twinkle and correct your invalid vandalism warning on my talk page, I will apply to have your access to Twinkle removed. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Notice your talk's edit history. My incorrect usage I reverted with a manual warning. I stand by that warning, as your edit certainly appeared to be vandalism: removing content with no edit summary. You should know better than that. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Your warning was not appropriate nor justified and your stewardship of the page is in question if you aren't even able to check for a duplicated line before making unfounded accusations, and then trying to cover your mistake instead of admitting it. I'm giving you one more chance to add a note to my talk page withdrawing your warning. I'd like to think you're a good decent editor who's simply made a mistake, as we're all prone to do. But you have to demonstrate that with some goodwill. Colonies Chris (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You sure are touchy tonight. You should consider letting things roll off of you like water off a duck. It's less stressful. I've removed the warning from your talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I can well imagine why Chris is irritated. Please do not post templates or text more suitable to rank newbies on experienced users' talk pages. Tony   (talk)  14:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Do we have templates or other warnings specifically for advanced users? Do we treat advanced users specially? - UtherSRG (talk) 14:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Milecastle 13
I'm not clear why you removed the speedy tag on this article. Your edit summary noted that it wasn't a duplicate but the reason for the speedy is that not that it's a duplicate but that it "does not expand upon, detail or improve information within the existing article(s) on the subject" - which is clearly true. Compare with Milecastle 48 for example. andy (talk) 13:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh. True enough. But I ain't gonna be the deleter. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Gregg Foreman?
Having no stake in Gregg foreman (which you salted), it looks like he may be notable enough for inclusion... Per WP:MUSICBIO, he's been in two bands that have their own wikipedia articles Cat Power and The Delta 72 (criteria 6) and had two independent articles cited (the Gibson guitar semi PR bit, and a citi paper article) which may provide support for statements about his life. Would you consider revisiting your deletion and protection? Thanks! Syrthiss (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm loathe to, but you asked nicely, which is one of the criteria for undeletion. :D Will you be fixing this up so that it's not a bunch of word puke? - UtherSRG (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Heheh yah I'll try to clean it up a bit. Yep, I can move it back when I'm done.  I technically could have removed your prot and undeleted it myself, but that could have been considered rude. :) Syrthiss (talk) 14:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, you're an admin, too. Ok. :) Enjoy! *grins* - UtherSRG (talk) 14:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Martin England
Why did you remove Martin England from Wikipedia? Could you please put it back, as we have lots of information still to go, including all the session players that have Wikipedia pages of their own. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jboucher73 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There was plenty of time and text and not one shred of evidence that he passes WP:MUSICBIO. If you provide me with verifiable and reliable sources that shows he passes WP:MUSICBIO, I'll restore the article. Otherwise, you'll have to list the article on WP:DRV. Sorry. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:54, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Echidna
Dear UtherSRG, could you please explain why you reverted my change in the echidna article? True anteaters are as closely related to echidnas as you and I (both us and true anteaters being placentals while echidnas are monotremes), and I suppose you don't consider yourselves close enough related to echidnas to mention it. Scarabaeoid (talk) 18:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, we're as closely related, but of course distantly related. We, though, are of no mention. But the name similarity deserves a mention. To say that echidnas are not related to anteaters is patently false, as you admit. They are related, it's just a very distant relationship. We shouldn't give false information. The truth is that there is a relationship, it's just a distant one, which was what the article said before your edit. I said as much in the edit summary. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I copied this topic to talk:echidna to see for other people's comments. Scarabaeoid (talk) 10:10, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:10, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Idan Koren
Hi, I noticed you were involved with deleting the Idan Koren vanity page before. It's been recreated again, and judging by the repeating pattern of 87 in the usernames and single topic interests among the accounts working on the article, it looks like he's using multiple accounts to get around your block warning. I nominated the page for speedy deletion again but I just thought you might be interested.--Francis York Morgan (talk) 22:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Yup. I'll deal with it. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Cleggeron
I am afraid that I am unclear yet about my vandalism. In fact I do not think the article I had created (now deleted) is nonsense or insults Nick Clegg or David Cameron. So, I would like to know what my fault is.Heinrich ⅩⅦ von Bayern (talk) 07:01, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you complaining about how I deleted the article, or that it was deleted at all? It seems to me that, per WP:BLP, you are slandering them. Perhaps I should have used a different CSD reason. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:08, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Slandering? I did not mean to.... At then, I only wanted to create the page to introduce the term. But, as both Clegg and Cameron are indeed alive, maybe I should be more cautious....Heinrich ⅩⅦ von Bayern (talk) 07:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Caution is definitely best when dealing with BLPs. CSD = WP:CSD. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:21, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Links in new page
Hello! I'm new to Wikipedia and the Back 2 Back 4 page is my first attempt at making a page in Wikipedia. I've seen you edited / added something to it and i can't edit the links in the article. I messed up the links in the page and want to make them right. How can i edit them? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihai7645 (talk • contribs) 07:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I turned your article into a redirect. There was nothing notable about that album and so by our policies on albums I turned it into a redirect to the band. Yes, your links were improperly formed, but that has nothing to do with its current state. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:10, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

AYANA Resort, Bali
I'm creating this page for the hotel. I'm still in the middle of reviewing it. It would be nice if you could help me with this. I'm looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Oriental,_Hong_Kong site as the guideline. thanks (Kusmae (talk) 07:30, 19 May 2010 (UTC))
 * I suggest you find articles to edit first so that you can become better acquainted with the tools available and the policies dictating what is allowed and not allowed before trying to create new articles. So no, I'm not going to help. Read the links on your page for a better understanding. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

donating to keep/delete a page/redirect
I think this is strictly against WP:TALK, and is most certainly against the spirit of Wikipedia. It should be removed. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh... and you restored while I was typing the above. Nevermind. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 11:20, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh. For the record, I agree that the talk page section that opened with a proposal to buy an editing decision was in bad taste. However, there was value in the later explanation of why Fox News has made the idea an extraordinarily bad one, and in a ranting Wikipedian being told off. I was behind both, but as you know, my frankly amazing adminship powers make me completely objective and impartial, so that doesn't matter. It turned out that the rant had been removed (by someone else with the edit summary "ffs," but I'll take what I can get), so the educational value wasn't worth bothering anymore. Happy spring, Kiz o r  07:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yes.... it's so nice that having admin powers automatically makes us absolutely objective and impartial. LOL!! - UtherSRG (talk)

Gerard Plunkett
I think we both took action at the same time on the same article... just different ones! I had just declined Gerard Plunkett for speedy deletion as the article had made suitable claims of notability (significant TV roles) and as such it wasn't a candidate for speedy deletion. I had put in the edit summary my suggestion of PROD/AFD/Improve. Could you please restore the article? Thanks! Stephen! Coming... 09:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Stephen! Coming... 09:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Done, elevated to AFD. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:30, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Viral syndrome
Hi Uther, can I know the reason why my article is being considered for deletion. I think your bot is not working properly. Udgikerian (talk) 09:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There was no bot involved. Look at the AFD entry, the reason is there. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I am unable to find any appropriate reason anywhere, can u please explain me in detail whats an AFD entry and when it is tagged. Udgikerian (talk) 09:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Look here. This link is in the AFD warning on the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

This article may look too general, but I wanted to add an ICD code which can not be found anywhere else. I was stil researching for this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Udgikerian (talk • contribs) 10:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You have about a week, as that's the time period for an AFD review. Is there only 1 ICD for viral syndrome? Or do various viral infections of their own ICD codes? - UtherSRG (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Plz check my comment on list of Medicine-related deletion discussions Udgikerian (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:14, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Klemens Murańka
Hello! Can you please recreate the article Klemens Murańka. He has competed in the Ski jumping World Cup and is notable because of that. See WP:ATHLETE. Regards. KzKrann (talk) 12:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have appropriate references that indicate the notability? I'll userfy the article into your userspace here. When you've updated the article the notability information and supported that information with appropriate references, let me know and i'll move it into the main encyclopedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. KzKrann (talk) 12:56, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I still don't see how this passes WP:ATHLETE. Please tell me how it meets either of the two criteria. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * "People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport". World Cup is the highest level and Muranka has competed in World Cup twice. As Continental Cup is the best amatuer leauge even those jumpers are actually notable. KzKrann (talk) 21:30, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Abdur Rehman etc.
Hi. I notice that you've recently moved Abdur Rehman. I was in the preliminary stages of sorting out the six (I think) existing disambiguation pages on the many variants of this name, Abdur Rahman, Abdul Rahman, Abdurahman etc etc, which are all transliterations of the same underlying name of Arabic origin. So to avoid confusion, I would appreciate it if you would discuss any further changes with me before taking action. Thanks. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I was doing CSD patrol. I believe the new standard is to have the disambiguation at the non-tagged title, while the tagged title redirects. This makes it easier on various bots, particularly User:WildBot. In otherwords, as I moved the article. Like I said, I was just doing some clean up, so I shouldn't be a further annoyance to you. If you want me to give the final products a look-over when you are done, I'm more than happy to do so. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 18:01, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. I agree about having disambiguation at the non-tagged title. I'll let you know when I'm done. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 21:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Depletion Log
Please let me know how I can read the depleted log you have depleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.3.103.229 (talk) 01:47, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Create an account or log in, for starters. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:46, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

dispute for article deletion
Hi UtherSRG, I created an Article called 'Good Return' on 18 May. it was deleted and I am not be able to create new article under the same title now, I think there might be some misunderstandings about the deletion, and I’d like to explain the reason why I think it this way, could you please let me know what should I do now? Do I need to explain the reasons to you? And could you please let me know the chance to re-create a ‘Good Return’ article please? Many Thanks, Grweal2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grweal2010 (talk • contribs) 02:46, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You are the return of a COI-named user that originally created that article. The article is promotional. Do you understand why either of those is bad, and why both together is horrendous? your current name is still COI-named. If you wish your article to return, go to WP:DRV and list it for deletion review. I will not restore your article. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:48, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Ali Dickinson
Hi, It seems we had a bit of an edit conflict here, I was just declining a speedy on Ali Dickinson when you deleted it. Rugby isn't my sport, but does this mean 18 appearances for a Magners league side doesn't constitute notability, or did one of us miss something?  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  13:28, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right. I thought it was an amateur player. I've restored and declined speedy. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:55, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  14:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No prob. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Klemens Murańka vs. Samet Karta, Faik Yüksel e.t.c.
Well, i just wanted to say, if you think Klemens Murańka is not notable. How about Faik Yüksel and Samet Karta (i nominated for deletion)? KzKrann (talk) 00:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

OceanBlue2010
Hi, could you please advise as to why my page was deleted? After reading over the text, it is factual and neutral, was it because of the links/sources? Thanks OceanBlue2010 (talk) 09:41, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It was tagged "CSD R2 as page was moved to WP:AFC as it is an open request. BOT MWOAPBot" but I can not see if this process was ever completed. I've restored it. Please contact that AFC folks to ensure the process is worked upon it. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Chinthana Dharmadasa
How do you consider the article about Chinthana Dharmadasa as an advertie4stment?... He is one of the directors of Sri Lankan Film How I Wonder What You Are, which is notable even than most of other Sri Lankan film because it claims to be the first "Low budget" feature length film produced in Sri Lanka.. Please contact any contributor from Sri Lanka to verify facts, if following links are not enough Nidahasa (talk) 10:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Offical Site of the Film "How I Wonder What You Are"
 * Feathers for Fallen Angels - Review on "The NAtion" newspaper about film
 * Article in "The Nation" Newspaper
 * A aeticle ib "Daily News" about the film
 * A Review


 * Please take your complaint to WP:DRV and list the articlethere for deletion review. Thank you. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Street Kirribilli
re Jeffrey Street, Kirribilli NSW Australia

Dear Uther

A couple of days ago you nominated my first article for deletion (which I thought was a bit unkind) and put a note on my home page to contact you. At the time it was just the start of an idea, 20 minutes old, and still forming.

It has now been almost totally rewritten and is a far better article.

Quite a few people have helped with this effort, frankly I am astonished at the efforts and willingness of people who have never even been to Australia to spend hours editing my work (it needed editing etc) when there is the risk that it will be deleted.

You did not really state your reasons on the site, one of the other people was kind enough to note that the article was only created 20 minutes prior and I should be given more time. At the time I had no idea that there was a deletion process that could delete an article in a week (or less). At the time I was a complete innocent, but have learnt quite a lot over the past couple of days.

I have asked friends and family to review, most of them have no idea... which is apparent in their comments.

Can I please ask you now to review the article and reconsider if appropriate, or comment accordingly on areas for review.

Thank you Andrew AWHS (talk) 12:19, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I've given it a relook, and while the article has certainly improved, the references are still lacking in that they don't show that the street itself as a topic is notable. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you have any suggestions? I find it extraordinary that in the US (and other places) there are wiki pages for garbage dumps and minor parks in small towns but one of the most central places in Australia is not notable. The area has hundreds of thousands of tourists and visitors per year. Are you suggesting a rewrite to make it "locality" specific? Thanks for your advice.AWHS (talk) 13:30, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Has the street (not a location the street) been in the news? Is there a report on how people are flocking the Jeffrey Street for some reason? there are certainly plenty of notable places on the street, but there doesn't seem to be anything particular notable about the street itself - at least no WP:V or WP:RS showing the street is anything but NN. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Does this help?
 * God's Window is a popular vantage point ...
 * Tour du Millénaire is a vantage point...
 * Felsenegg is a vantage point...
 * Red Lake Peak is believed to be the vantage point...


 * By comparison, Jeffrey Street in Kirribilli is famous as the vantage point for one of the most widely recognised views on earth.... AWHS (talk) 13:42, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

It does not matter what *you* say, it matters what you can *prove* with *references*. There are no references in the article that *prove* notability. If you think those other articles do not have references to prove their notability, then please feel free to nominate them at WP:AFD. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking at this for me. Have I gone down the wrong track with this? I have been looking for references for the historical properties in the street, which interest me. I have avoided the references created by less than professional, government or academic sources etc. But for example if you do a google search for "Jeffrey street" NYE or similar there are hundreds of references that identify Jeffrey Street as one of the key locations to watch the fireworks on New Years Eve etc.AWHS (talk) 14:15, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, that would indeed be a better (pun intended) road to go down. :D - UtherSRG (talk) 15:14, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * What do you think about the page now? I initially tried to avoid talking about the half million people who visit each year just to look at the bloody view, the police, the crowds, the Japanese brides etc and the whole rigmorole, but if wikipedia demands notability I think that it now comes much closer to passing the test. Thoughts appreciated. AWHS (talk) 14:07, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Removing anonymous post
It looks like the post you removed was a good faith attempt at improvement. I've restored it and explained to the newcomer that those sources aren't sufficient. -- Explodicle (T/C) 18:20, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 06:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Rafael La Porta
Hi, you deleted the article on Rafael La Porta, and I was just hoping that you would reconsider. La Porta wrote one of the most influential and well-read works in political economy, and a simple search of Google Scholar shows that he has written numerous pieces that are heavily cited. Thanks for hearing me out! Adamc714 (talk) 19:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * None of that is in the article. Please take this to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 06:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Sciurus Polo Team Deletion
Am curious as to why it was deleted? Under A7 Let me explain the importance

The importance is such: Awarded Low Goal Team of the Season last year, large contributer to Walking with the Wounded (with HRH Harry Wales), Potentially playing at the Cartier Polo this year, In Argentina- Pilara is one of the leading teams/clubs and Sciurus is watched by potentially over 10,000 each season.

I hope we can reinstate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polotimes (talk • contribs) 14:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you put this in terms of how it passess WP:NSPORT? I don't see that it does. Your *assertions* of notability don't count. What counts is that you can *prove* it is notable against the listings of our policy as laid out in NSPORT. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

ANI notice regarding Battle for the Sun
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --IllaZilla (talk) 17:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Pangolin page move
Thank you for moving the Tree Pangolin page. Would you please move the Philippine pangolin page as well? Thank you! dude❶❽❶❽ (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Will do. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Muir Skate Longboard Shop (2nd nomination)
Hi, UtherSRG. Because you participated in Deletion review/Log/2010 May 12, you may be interested in Articles for deletion/Muir Skate Longboard Shop (2nd nomination). Cunard (talk) 02:09, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Azmyth Article Deletion
The band Azmyth is indeed notable. Check the facts. They meet at least three of the requirements.


 * Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. OCALA, Orange Springs, Florida
 * Has won or placed in a major music competition.Pat Traver's Battle Of The Bands / Shredder Shootout, ETC
 * Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Positiveoutlook5 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Those all fail. You haven't done it right. Go to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:27, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

InTopSens Article Deletion
Hi, you have deleted a page I created, after a colleague of yours previously deleted another on the same subject. I emailed the following message to permissions-en@wikimedia.org and have not receieved a reply:

"Dear Sir/Madam,

I am the Project coordinator for the EC FP7 project, InTopSens. I created the original webpage (www.intopsens.eu) which is property of KTH, my employer. Twice now I have tried to create a page using text which I have permission to use publicly and which is in the public domain and twice it has been deleted citing unmabiguous copyright infringment: •	10:32, 11 May 2010 UtherSRG (talk | contribs) deleted "InTopSens" ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement) •	13:02, 5 May 2010 Nancy (talk | contribs) deleted "InTopSens" ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: http://cordis.lu/fetch?CALLER=PROJ_ICT&ACTION=D&DOC=2138&CAT=PROJ&QUERY=01271455c49d:a18f:3d327053&RCN=87603) Please tell me how to proceed. Cheers,

Daniel" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyhill (talk • contribs) 11:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, if you say so. What do you want me to do about it? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:08, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Rockvale Academy
I am a newbie. I do not know if this is the right place to write or not. If not please delete these comments. This is regarding the article that i created 'Rockvale Academy' I do not understand why it is being deleted. It is an informative article about one of the prominent schools in Kalimpong. The contents have been found from the school magazines and reports. If this article demands deletion then please consider deleting the multitude of other articles pertaining to other schools. For example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Graham%27s_Homes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Augustines_School, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Augustine%27s_School, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Point_School_%28India%29, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James%27_School_%28India%29, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oxford_School,_Trivandrum. There are million of other links I can point to, similar to these ones. Wikipedia is supposed to be the repository of information. This article provides information about a school. It is not an advertisement or a promotional attempt. I do not understand the technical jargon as to why this article will be deleted. Please explain to me in non technical terms.

A lot of students will find the information useful. Anandchhetri (talk) 15:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Anand


 * You want to go to WP:AFD to read on the process, WP:SCHOOL to read about what is allowed for school articles, and Articles for deletion/Rockvale academy to talk about the deletion or keeping of the article. I merely elevated the deletion from a WP:CSD speedy deletion to a week-long discussion. (And since no one has said anything at all on the article's AFD page, it'll probably go longer than a week.) Good luck! - UtherSRG (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Chinthana Dharmadasa
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Chinthana Dharmadasa. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Nidahasa (talk) 17:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Cite tweet
Template:Cite tweet has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. -— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 20:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - UtherSRG (talk) 10:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

On Shunsuke Miyake
I have rewritten Shunsuke Miyake, which had been deleted. Could you review the rewritten article ? --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 11:01, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see how this passes WP:BIO. You would be better off going to WP:AFC and have them review it. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Abdur Rehman etc.
Hi. I said I'd let you know when I'd finished with Abdur Rehman and immediately associated pages. As you can see I've flattened several previous pages into a single big disambiguation page, since the transliteration of the name is in general subject to arbitrary variation. Comments welcome. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 11:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Very nicely done! That's awesome! - UtherSRG (talk) 13:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

RioVagas Brazilian Jobs Web Community
Dear Sirs, I would like ask you to please mantain my page published. Its a importante service for poor people in Brazil. We help a lot of people - about 500 a day - to get a job. Stay in Wikipedia is important because American and foreign people is trying to contact us to provide some help. We have 200.000 people that needs this help. In despite of it, how many e-groups do we know joining 200,000 people? In my opinion, its a important information. Please follow this ling and check this information. I changed the link on site published direct to the web community: http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/riovagas. If you have any question, please let us know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Augustoschaffer (talk • contribs) 14:51, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Declined. That is not the purpose of Wikipedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

MTR Professional Audio
This page was deleted by you yesterday. The talk page gave valid details of notability. There was no response to these details. This is uncivil. Please reinstate. Redheylin (talk) 15:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Declined. You have to prove notability, not assert it. The article, as it stood, did neither. Your assertion on the talk page was just that - an assertion. Do you currently have the proof needed to show notability? If so I will gladly userfy the article so you can quickly bring it into compliance. Otherwise, you should seek support for restoration by listing the article for deletion review. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Policy says "Notability requires only that these necessary sources exist, not that the sources have already been named in the article." In fact, you cannot expect work on the article to continue when tagged for speedy deletion. A note on the talk page - the proper response - drew attention to reviews in trade mags and to over 50,000 hits for exact phrase "MTR Audio" - all verifiable. A blue link showed that the managing director is a also a notable musician. Lastly, you are obliged to show good faith towards a bare assertion on my part, particularly since you are in a position to verify my expertise. You failed to respond to this note or to discuss your reservations regarding the issue of notability, and this was unnecessarily discourteous and disruptive. You may userfy the page, but please also provide an exact answer on the talk page stating how your standard of "compliance" is precisely based upon policy. Thanks Redheylin (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Take it to WP:DRV, as I said to do. - UtherSRG (talk) 06:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I'd like you to do as you said you would and userfy the page, adding your personal reservations to my note on the user-page to indicate the exact requirements that you think are lacking in the evidence offered. It is your edit that is in question, not mine, and you have offered no rationale for it. Or you may state here the policy that leads you to decline this. Redheylin (talk) 13:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Userfied here. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thankyou. Now, if you'd point me to;
 * Your reasons for contesting notability
 * The means of reinstating the page...
 * Redheylin (talk) 01:40, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Edit the article to show the notability and sources proving notability. Flag down any admin and have them give it a review. They can also move it back into the main namespace. Or list it at WP:DRV as I've said. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:45, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * "Notability requires only that these necessary sources exist, not that the sources have already been named in the article." Redheylin (talk) 10:13, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Go talk to some other admin. I've already stated what I would do and what I want. Find someone else. Specifically, take it to WP:DRV where you'll get a wider audience than just one admin. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You are not able to provide a reason for your edits, then? You are the person who deleted the article and you are not willing to discuss the article's shortcomings or to assist with reinstating it, and you are ignoring policy? I do have this correct, do I? By the way, you have also failed to userfy the talk page - I'd be grateful if you would. Redheylin (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Userfied days ago. Read up at 20:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC) - UtherSRG (talk) 03:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry? At which page, please? A couple more things - first, I cannot find any answer to my pointing out that your edit and conditions for reinstatement are non-policy, nor do I understand why you are failing to co-operate. Second, I have a little difficulty understanding your summary "get lost" - could you clarify your meaning, please? Redheylin (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

On this page. Up a few paragraphs. At the timestamp I indicated. Get lost = stop bothering me. Go away. Find something else to do. Scram. Beat it. Further replies from you will be ignored. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, still unable to locate the userfied talk page at the location indicated. Redheylin (talk) 19:05, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Undeleted Chris Bickford
FYI - I have undeleted the Chris Bickford article as a result of this Editor Assistance request. It was a marginal case, but since the article stated that the actor was a host of a television show, I believe that was an assertion of possible notability under WP:ENT item 1, which would make it ineligible for CSD under WP:NOTCSD item 5. (I do not endorse the article, but it is my opinion that the article should be processed as a PROD or AfD.) --  Tom N (tcncv) talk/contrib 02:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Broken English (label)
It was a spam tag, not an A7 tag; text like "What do you get when two entities with deep roots in the local, regional, and national music scene combine forces ... BROKEN ENGLISH RECORDS. Broken English Records was started by John Naclerio in early 2004. Naclerio owner of Nada Recording Studio is most well known for manning the boards for some of today's most popular and influential bands including My Chemical Romance, Brand New, Matchbook Romance, The Ataris, Armor For Sleep, Senses Fail, and Midtown. The signature Nada sound can be heard on all these recordings and is considered by many to be the soundtrack of today's youth." seems to me to be classic spamming. Ironholds (talk) 10:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, that text was vandalism added after the creation by a different editor. I've now removed it. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh, didn't realise that. Facepalm moment! Ironholds (talk) 01:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Heh. :) I should have removed it before. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Mid-level practitioner
Given the edit history that I saw and the applied block, I think the protection level should probably be reduced to edit=autoconfirmed, move=sysop. mechamind 9  0  17:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:American Bison
Why did you revert the revert on Talk:American Bison? The original edit by HaŋaRoa re-added comments that had been deleted by a vandal, as explained in his edit summary, the bot then thought it was a comment made by HaŋaRoa, and auto signed it, HaŋaRoa then reverted the bot's edit, as it was in error, and again explained this in his edit summary. Please read the summary before reverting. 117Avenue (talk) 04:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Because I was viewing from my watchlist. Sorry, My bad. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Bad faith vandalism warning and templating the regulars
Please do not make bad faith vandalism warnings and template the regulars, as you have done, here,. I see no edits that deserved such a warning, nor prior talk page discussion about this issue. Please do not do this again. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 04:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't know TEMPLAR. Even so, his edit was still wrong. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:57, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * "Wrong" does not mean it merited a vandalism templated warning. Have you even tried to discuss this issue before? Either on a user talk page somewhere, or the article's talk page, anywhere? -- Cirt (talk) 04:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What's even worse is that we're both not even seeing that who did the bad edit wasn't Peter but an anon... Sorry man, i'm so freaking tired by getting no sleep for a week.... I should just give up and take a day or two wikivacation... UtherSRG (talk) 07:49, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, no worries. -- Cirt (talk) 16:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And I didn't fix the right edit, and it took me multiple times to get it right. I fee like yesterday's xkcd.... LOL! - UtherSRG (talk) 05:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey. I noticed you're deleting many of the articles created by this user. They've created quite a bit of work as all of the articles they've created are either copies of an already existent article or copied directly from another website. Twinkle doesn't have any warnings for pasting in copyrighted material or I would apply it. They've been idle for almost an hour but is there any way to stop all this? I don't know that they've broken any policies but they sure are creating a lot of work for others. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 14:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure it does. Look at uw-create in the 1-4 level warnings. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. I was looking for something copyvio specific but this will work just fine.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 14:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There ain't much that isn't in Twinkle... and if you find something that isn't and know a template for it, they can add it at WT:Twinkle. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of InterPals
I'd like to know why the page was deleted. I understand that an AfD discussion was in progress because of verification of sources, but as the largest pen pal web site on the Internet, it seems that the site would be notable enough to escape speedy deletion. Is there any way to appeal this decision? Thanks Mefistofele (talk) 14:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, go to WP:DRV - UtherSRG (talk) 14:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)+

Deletion of Alien vs Ninja
Is invalid as your claim is null and void. According to you "which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable" and the quote, no movies from the studio (such as machine girl) should be in this encyclopedia at all because they are not noteworthy. I am adding this page back again as your claim was invalid. --∑ssarege∑ (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I made no claim. I was only the deleting admin, but you are correct, films are not A7. So I've restored and elevated to AfD. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Back of the Throat
Hey there, this article has now been significantly expanded now with good sources (Ny Times, LA Times, etc.). Definite keeper,I think nom could be withdrawn if you are so inclined.--Milowent (talk) 18:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * AFD time period is a week. Let's see what others have to say first. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem.--Milowent (talk) 11:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Satiristas?
Why did you delete Satiristas without answering my question or helping in anyway? I had legitimate permission from the authors of the book and website and was asked to post for them - I credited the website, and frankly the way this whole thing is set up is impossible to understand - how else I would credit the website (WHICH I WROTE BY THE WAY)?? I guess I will waste an incredible amount of time and write a stupid differently worded article instead?? I would have been happy to send you any verification needed. GEEZ! Leannemcneil (talk) 22:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Take it to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

COPYVIO content recreated after you deleted it.
You speedy deleted my COPYVIO nomination of User:Arup Roy Choudhury. The user recreated the exact same COPYVIO content shortly afterwards. Time for a wikislap? --Biker Biker (talk) 11:37, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Three times is the charm. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 12:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Lutz
Why did you delete the English Article for Thomas Lutz while I was currently working on it? For "A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject" see the German article.

Regards, Franklin.harding (talk) 13:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:BIO and explain how the subject passes our notability requirements. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I know the criteria. Although it says "The person is or has been an editor-in-chief of a major well-established journal in their subject area." and "The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions." you are deleting it? The person has achieved a lot in holocaust remembrance and is still working in the field. Think about your actions!
 * Franklin.harding (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Take it to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Thomas Lutz
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Thomas Lutz. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franklin.harding (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I have made a comment there that you probably will wish to reply to.  DGG ( talk ) 16:49, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Trouted. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Terry Smith, financier -- maybe it is time to allow him a page
Hi

Apparently you have deleted a page entry for Terry Smith. I learnt this just now after having created one. I understand Wikipedia's policy on living people, and that they should be notable. Terry Smith meets this criterion. He is certainly notable. It is true that he is less well known than many financiers who have their own entries in Wikipedia. Terry has a track record of doing finance right, so his firms has not (so far) had to have a bailout by government because of incompetent or immoral management. In many regards, Terry Smith stands out as the moral financier par excellence. he is very well known in the finance community in London, although perhaps not well known in the USA. His book was so controversial that at one time it carried the strapline "The Book they Tried to Ban." I may have misremembered, but this was because of legal actions on behalf of companies furious at his revealing some of the accounting tricks used in annual reports and accounts. In these days of financial catastrophe, brought on largely by financiers, regulators and governments using smoke and mirrors to hide real risks in capital markets, Terry Smith is one of the very small number of people who are both highly successful in finance and who have a track record of exposing financial chicanery, at no small personal costs.

By the way, I have no personal interest in whether Wikipedia carries or does not carry an entry. I have no connection whatsoever with Mr Smith nor any of his businesses. As a qualified finance practitioner, I was surprised that Terry Smith has no entry in Wikipedia, and even more surprised that his entry has previously been deleted. If some editor arbitrarily decides to ban Mr Smith from being covered in Wikipedia, it won;t make any difference to my life but it will be a poor reflection on Wikipedia, and will be in the tradition of trying to ban Gillian Tett from having an entry, which is surely one of the low points in Wikipedia's collective judgement.

I have no idea, nor much interest, in the source of your authority over these decisions, but I expect you are doing a good job at watever it is you do on Wikipedia and I salute you for that and tank you. I hope you will not censor a man who is a rare moral giant in today's financial world.

SUDFA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudfa (talk • contribs) 15:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The deletion has nothing to do with how poorly or how well Mr. Smith does in life, but how poorly the article is written according to our policies. An article on a living person must immediately show notability. Please read our policies: WP:N, WP:BIO, WP:RS, WP:V. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Peepshow (burlesque)
Not having a chance to read the article (since you deleted it). I was wondering if you could clarify exactly how it didn't meet the context threshold.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.168.129 (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't tag it, I deleted it. The tagger said A1, which is context. I deleted it even though it wasn't A1. It was A3 (no content) and A7 (no notability). - UtherSRG (talk) 03:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Internet rockstar
Hello. I saw you deleted Internet Rockstar, but this version (with the lower-case r) still exists. Could you delete it, too? Thanks! 81.152.72.174 (talk) 19:30, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it. thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 03:49, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Close To Torah
I believe that Close To Torah should have a page on Wikipedia so that people may find information of its origin, goal, and intentions. We receive hits from several hundred people a day and growing. Like anyone when first going anywhere I'd like to know its credibility, so I would search Wikipedia to help me. I am new to Wikipedia but I believe that Close To Torah among other websites should be referenced to in another article discussing the different Torah Content websites available for Jewish users, then have a page about each of them and what they are geared towards. This should be under the category of Judaism...I just didn't have the chance to research how to do that. These Torah Content websites allow people from around the world who may not have too much exposure to Judaism to have insights on words of wisdom. More than 'just a website' we aim to teach people and enlighten them with the wisdom of the Torah.Dovidkopel (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Denied. Please read WP:WEB, and WP:CSD, particularly A7 and G11, and the other links in the speedy notice on your talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

InTopSens
Hi UtherSRG,

This page was recently speedily deleted multiple times (largely at my request) for copyright violation and other criteria, and you eventually protected the page from creation. I've now worked on the article with its original author and I believe that it has been greatly improved and is easily well-sourced enough to be worthy of an article. I do not believe it is a copyright violation any longer, either. The article itself is still a bit messy, but as a newpage patroller I've seen much worse in mainspace so I'd like to move the draft back into mainspace to allow it to be improved by the wikipedian community.

The draft can be found at User:Dannyhill/InTopSens. Thanks in advance.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  15:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing anything that addresses the lack of notability. So it's a project to do "X". What is notable about that? Look at WP:GNG for some guidelines on addressing notability. The only references are primary source papers submitted to a single journal. There's nothing in the wider literature that this is anything more than a science project that is going no where. Sorry, I can't place a non-notable subject into the main space. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it seems I pre-empted this. The user provided about 5 or 6 reliable secondary sources on his talk page, but apparently didn't insert them into the draft. I'll put in the references and let you know when that's done. You might like to take a quick look at a couple of them though, I looked at the first 3 or 4 and was satisfied that the article could meet the notability criteria once they're added:
 * http://www.sflorg.com/comm_center/unv_science/p662_175.html
 * http://www.azonano.com/news.asp?newsID=10434
 * https://www.grace-lrti.org/NR/rdonlyres/F6E9171F-9597-4449-9D85-1ED7AE79AA85/2217/GRACENewsJanuary2010LR.pdf
 * https://www.mosar-sic.org/mosar/en-GB/Recommended+links/
 * http://www.vdivde-it.de/polynet/public/knowledge/newsletters/quadriga-newsletter-october-2009
 * http://www.vinnova.se/upload/remiss%20antibiotikaresistens.pdf
 * I'm pretty familiar with the guidelines, so I think with the addition of these, the guidelines will be met by a wide margin. I'll make sure I add these myself this time. Sorry to have wasted your time without confirming they had been listed.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  12:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops, they had been listed; I assume you have already seen these then. They seemed like reliable secondary sources to me; I didn't see any indication that they were primary sources, and each one seemed to be reliable and give a non-trivial mention of the "InTopSens" organisation. Could you explain your reasons for thinking these are primary sources please? Thanks.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  13:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * At least the first three which I've looked at myself, appear to be scientific news articles by third parties to me, so I'm slightly confused why this doesn't meet WP:GNG.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  13:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, you mean the external links. If you think they can support the article, then use them as references. Do they show notability? Since the article is userfied, there's no reason to not get it right before moving it into main space. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I got a bit muddled while replying here, and realised that the creator had listed them as external links rather than references. They appear to show notability; I will try to better format the references before this enters mainspace though, I suspect that the list of current references all being given as inline citations in one place is erroneous, and formatting some of the more reliable sources as inline citations would be a good idea. If you could unprotect the InTopSens page while I'm cleaning it up a bit more than would be helpful though; then I can move it myself once it's a bit tidier. If you have a look at some of the sources which were previously listed as external links, I'm sure you'll agree that this now meets WP:GNG. Thanks.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  13:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Certainly looks like it's nearly ready. I've unprotected the space. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Acrecebus fraileyi
I have created an article on the prehistoric cebid Acrecebus fraileyi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elspooky (talk • contribs) 08:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I'll take a look at it shortly. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

International Bureau of Education
I apologize for having created the first version of the article by copy-pasting from the UNESCO web page. I thought that that material would be in the public domain. My mistake. I've now created a new version using my own words. I hope that this is OK.--Gautier lebon (talk) 08:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Should be. We'll see. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 08:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Make sure you understand an edit before considering it a test edit
My edit was not a test edit! I would like you to reconsider your revert and apologize. 128.232.240.137 (talk) 08:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right, I looked only at your edit and not the destination of the link. Sorry. The revert stands, though, as I've made the better fix by changing the redirect. Please consider creating an account. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You're still screwing up! First off, your redirect does not work (I think you need a capital D). Also, "dental formula" remains unlinked in the article that I edited... 128.232.240.137 (talk) 09:09, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

deleted article
Hi Uther. You deleted an article I created on a German actress (Antje Thiele) within nine hours of its creation with the tag A7. I checked A7 and it reads:


 * A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content).
 * An article about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works. This criterion does not apply to species of animals, only to individual animal(s). The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source. The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible. If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, propose deletion, or list the article at articles for deletion.
 * db-a7, db-person – for people, db-band – for bands , db-club – for clubs, societies, groups, and organizations , db-inc – for companies and corporations , db-web – for websites , db-animal – for individual animals

Note that the guidelines say this is a lower standard than notability. The article did say why she is important: She has appeared in documentaries, television series, and films (not to mention a worldwide theatrical tour), and is appearing as a major character in a major film directed by a major Hollywood director and starring Vanessa Redgrave. This plus her CV of past and upcoming credits (theatrical, film, and television), plus IMDB page were linked. As credible importance was therefore specifically stated in the article, I would like to reinstate it because it met the A7 guidelines and thus seemingly did not merit speedy deletion. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Like I said on your talk page, she fails WP:ENT. Denied. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * You're quoting notability. To repeat and refer you again to the A7 criteria above you used as reason for deletion, judgment for speedy deletion is not notability, it's credible statement of importance. If you like, you could perhaps nominate the article for AfD after it was fully fleshed out (it was only 9 hours old and had hardly even begun) and see if at that point the notability requirements of AfD were met or not in the eyes of an assortment of WP editors over the course of a week or so. However, it must be noted that in terms of speedy deletion, the article was deleted even though it met the requirements for a speedy keep. See A7 above. Softlavender (talk) 15:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * WP:SNOWBALL. Take it to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

GA nominations
Hello, I'm afraid I've failed gorilla and Jane Goodall at GAN. Neither meet the criteria at this time and still need a bit of work on them. If it's reviews you're looking for (per your comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Primates) then you might want to try peer review instead. Apart from anything, you might get people with more of a biology background rather than just looking at the GA criteria. Regards, -- Beloved Freak  16:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope this doesn't come across wrong, but I also quick-failed Common Chimpanzee, Lucy (Australopithecus), and Orangutan. The pages were improperly assessed as B-class, and had a combination of clean-up tags, missing information, missing citations.  Please clean up the articles before submitting to GAC rather than working out such serious flaws during the review.  I have also temporarily removed the Golden-crowned Sifaka nomination (rather than failing it) due to the need for a rapid overhaul.  With that article, it was very close to B-class, mostly due to some missing citations.  I am currently cleaning the page up and adding content, and I plan to re-submit for GA sometime this afternoon.  Red-bellied Lemur was reassessed to C-class and has numerous problems.  Depending on how long the Golden-crowned Sifaka article takes me, I may try to clean-up that article as well this evening.  Other lemur articles I've reassessed (downward) are Aye-aye, Diademed Sifaka, and Coquerel's Sifaka.  I left Silky Sifaka at B-class, but please do not nominate it.  After I finish the Subfossil lemur article I'm trying to find time to write, I plan to use material Erik Patel has given me to revamp the article so that I can make a blitz run at both GAC and FAC.  As it stands, that article technically doesn't merit B-class due to the use of "personal communication" references.  Anyway, I appreciate your eagerness to improve the status of our articles.  I'll help you in any way that I can.  Again, I hope I haven't ruffled your feathers any with the quick fails.  At the very least, though, WP:PRIMATES should have another GA or two soon due to the attention to called to Golden-crowned Sifaka, and possibly Red-bellied Lemur. Best wishes, –   VisionHolder  «  talk  »  18:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

No prob... PR at WP:PRIM is mostly broken... not enough folks look at the assessment or peer review sections of the project. So I grabbed the best of our B-class articles and sent them up the flagpole. I have no problem with them being failed. It gives me a better idea of where the boundaries are. And now I have a nice big plate of work for the next couple of nights before I go cold for a few days while I'm on a boat starting my travels home. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That's cool. It's partly my fault for not being responsive at PR on WP:PRIM.  There are probably about 4 or 5 active members of the project, and most aren't actively involved in content creation or assessments.  I've been trying to recruit new editors, with the hopes of finding a few people who could compliment my work on lemurs by writing articles about monkeys, apes, and other prosimians... but no luck yet.  I apologize, though, if I come across as possessive over the lemur articles.  It's not intended.  I've accumulated a lot of sources, and I have specific plans for many pages.  I'm also better at re-writing then integrating into existing text.  I also feel badly that the other primate groups are falling behind, thus my push for more monkey and ape content creators.  Anyway, I'll try to be more mindful of your requests for peer reviews in the future. –   VisionHolder  «  talk  »  04:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

No sweat, man. I'm 2 days from going home for a month or so. After our Fossa success, I think I can improve more articles once I'm back to work in early-mid July. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've finished revising the Golden-crowned Sifaka article and encouraged Ucucha to resume the GAC review. I still need  to add information about its vocalizations, but I'm too burnt out to do it tonight.  I may add it tomorrow or before going FAC.  This article goes to show that my days of one-day article re-writes are over.  This article might also suggest at just how much information is out there on some of these lemur species.  If it took me nearly two days to re-write this article, I suspect Red-bellied Lemur is going to take much longer.  (It's been known and studied for many more years, and I'm sure it's taxonomic history is a beast.)  I'll add it to my list, but Subfossil lemur has been put on the back-burner for far too long.  I'll try to make Red-bellied Lemur and the Silky Sifaka my next projects after I finish my existing project.
 * I also went through and re-assessed all the B-class WP:PRIM articles. Most got demoted.  One really worried me... Silver Spring monkeys.  The article is so non-neutral that it reeks of WP:Animal rights.  I have sources that would contradict it, but I'm not getting into a fight with that group again... at least not until I have more time to accumulate material and have more people to support me.  Anyway.... in short, we've got a long ways to go on WP:PRIM.  I'm glad I'm only interested (at this point) in writing about lemurs.... –   VisionHolder  «  talk  »  01:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to spend some bucks while I'm home for the next six weeks on some good books we could use. Any suggestions? - UtherSRG (talk) 04:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It depends. Are you looking to duplicate my personal collection, or would you rather I suggest books that discuss a more broad range of primates?  I guess it's a question of whether you want to write lemur articles or other primate articles. –   VisionHolder  «  talk  »  13:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll leave the lemur articles to your expertise. :) I believe I have one of the more recent neotropical primates books. I just don't travel with it. I think I'll be bringing some books with me in six weeks, though, so it'll come with me then. I'm just trying to figure out what would be a good set to have, too. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The following look appealing to me:
 * Primate Behavioral Ecology (3rd Edition) (2006) ISBN: 978-0205444328
 * The Pictorial Guide to the Living Primates (1996) ISBN: 978-0964882515 (An old one, but very good.)
 * Primates in Perspective (2010) ISBN: 978-0195390438
 * Walker's Primates of the World (1999) ISBN: 978-0801862519 (Another old one, but good. Fortunately, I own this one.)
 * Let me know which ones you ultimately get. By the way... will we not see you at all during your Wikibreak?  We'll sure miss you, if so. –   VisionHolder  «  talk  »  14:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll be around taking break breaks. ;) But I won't be on here on a daily basis. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Antje Thiele
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Antje Thiele. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Softlavender (talk) 16:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

inre Articles for deletion/Alien vs Ninja
I do fully understand why you would send THIS to AFD. However, I'd ask that you now revist and review the improvements made to Alien vs Ninja to see if perhaps per WP:GNG it might even merit a "keep" or "incubate". Of course, you need not do so... I just thought to notify you of the improvements. Best regards,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I always watchlist the AFDs I make, and in this case I even reversed myself without your prompting. I totally agree with you on this, and it's why I try to put anything marginal on AFD instead of accepting the CSD nom. I really liked it when AfD stood for Articles for Discussion. Those were the good old days. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 07:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like that old name to come back one day, as it better reflects the building of an encyclopedia.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Me too. I've started WP:BBAFD. I hope you can add to it. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be glad to. And in related news... perhaps you'll look in at my own WP:NEWBIEGUIDE intended as an aid to newcomers but written in the simplest terms possible.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 16:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Immortal Corruptor
the reason: it doesnt implicate significance? how is that possible? thats a bullshit reasin that has no foundation in logic. how can i implicate significance? do i say that they are the next GREATEST BAND EVER! or something like that? do or do they have to be a nice religious band praising the god of your choice? they are significant in their scene, they are significant in their views. i saw that even someone else was defending us. what gives YOU the power to say what can be on and not on here. eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrice25 (talk • contribs) 07:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:GNG, WP:CSD, and WP:BAND. The band you want to write an article about does not have the notability we require for it to be an article. Once you can show that the band passes our notability guidelines, then it can be an article. UtherSRG (talk) 08:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

we? our? ok so are you on the wikipedia staff too? along with every single member that has an account.....thats funny youre saying "we" and "our" like youre part of them. and ok, what are your bullshit guidelines....they need an emmy, a grammy, a tony or what ever the fuck musicians get? alot of great musicians didnt get those, such as the Dead Kennedys and theyre on here. you know how much easier it would be for Immoral Corruptor to GET more notoriety if they could just say, "look us up on wikipedia, then you could link to all our other stuff". this is a public encyclopedia and as a member i have just as much right as you do, so what if they arent famous, thats pretty dickish of you to deny me the right to put a band i like on here just because YOU have never heard of them; do you have some kind of wikipedia seniority i dont know about? is there a hierarchy of membership im not aware of. membership....HA!.....should be more like membershit if as a member my ability to post articles depends on the compliance of assholes.08:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Lets see if the dead kennedys a GREAT band and one featured on wikipedia is has any of these requirements

1.Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.-no

2.Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.-no

3.Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.[note 4]-not heavy coverage

4.Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).- they were completely indipendent

5.Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.- yes

6.Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.-NO

7.Has won or placed in a major music competition.-no

8.Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article.)-No

9.Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.- not on any station ive ever heard

10.Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.-no —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrice25 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Ignoring rant. If you want your article undeleted, go to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 09:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Jim Hall Kart Racing School
Hi,

Just want to say, please don't mis-understand my comments on this AfD, I understand, and accept your reasoning for declining the CSD (whilst at the same time not completable agreeing with the promotional aspect). My point was aimed at addressing the issue of inherited notability.

I don't see anything yet that indicated the 'school' meets WP:GNG and/or WP:ORG

Thanks Codf1977 (talk) 08:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 08:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Roberto Aiello
Could you please restore the history of this page? When it was recreated it was a copy of at least parts of the old article (mirrored at http://wikibin.org/articles/roberto-aiello.html) and needs attribution history. VernoWhitney (talk) 11:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! VernoWhitney (talk) 12:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No prob. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi UtherSRG, I created this page because he is a notable person in the field of UWB. There is a long list of references out there, but I think I added the main verifiable sources about him. Intervalhistory (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC).
 * Someone's notability in real life is not the same thing as someone's notability for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I'm quite notable at work, but I am so very not notable when it comes to having a wikipedia article. Please read WP:N and WP:BIO to understand our notability requirements for inclusion in the encyclopedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

GrayLoeffler LLC Deletion
Hi. Exactly, how am I supposed to respond to the Deletion motion if there aren't any comments regarding the reasons why it is nominated? I went to the location you left on my Talk Page but other than blank URL's there is nothing that provides any information either way... It is kind of hard to either defend against an argument or correct the circumstance if I can't tell what the issue is... All it has is this: Non-notable company, recreated, speedy contested. delete UtherSRG (talk) 10:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. -- UtherSRG (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- UtherSRG (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- UtherSRG (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- UtherSRG (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. -- UtherSRG (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

What does this mean? Is this pseudo-code? I am looking for a discussion corresponding to the English language and unless I am looking in the wrong place, one has not been provided... Stevenmitchell (talk) 12:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * That is the beginning of the discussion. I nominated it because it appears non-notable (see WP:N and WP:INC), that it is a recreation of a previously deleted article, and that you contested the speedy deletion. I then listed the discussion on 5 lists of deletion discussions (those are the five notes after my initial comment). Please read the link on *your talk page* as well as the ones I just listed here. Also, at least one other editor has added to the discussion. Information on how to participate in the discussion can be found at WP:AFD. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Beachcomber Hotels Article
Hi UtherSRG, I've created the article Beachcomber Hotels Mauritius. I would the title to be Beachcomber Hotels. Can you help me please. Let me know if everything is ok for wikipedia on my article. Thanks gavinwantedGavinwanted (talk) 12:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Bad Gavin. No cookie for you. You didn't follow the directions. You should have used WP:AFC. I don't believe you did. You also didn't read follow its process if you did. You created an article that I'm now going to quickly delete. Read WP:N, WP:CSD and WP:INC. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

G4 of Chris Floyd
Just out of curiosity, why was the G4 CSD removed from Chris Floyd? This version does not look substantially different from the one that was deleted not 2 days ago. Bonewah (talk) 13:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I really didn't check the article. I suppose I should have. I had only looked at the discussion, saw there was some significant contestation there, so declined speedy. Feel free to suggest that the article be G4'd anyway. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks! Bonewah (talk) 13:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Make sure you update the AFD and your !vote. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Roxum
Hi there, the page a wrote about an establish independent band has been deleted by you. Can you tell me what the difference was from the article I wrote compared to other musicians which have articles on them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roxum.james (talk • contribs) 13:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:N and WP:BAND for starters. Since your username is similar to the band's name, you should also read WP:COI. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, that is useful information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.152.43.162 (talk) 14:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Atlantic. There is fictitious information been posted on this page about a death and foul language also. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.152.43.162 (talk) 14:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll check it out. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Cite tweet
This has been moved to User:UtherSRG/Cite tweet. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 16:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

ZOMG
I am glad to have made you laugh, but it is comepletely true. Bearian (talk) 17:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete the article "Tinkernut"
I saw that you had deleted this article and wanted to know your reason. It was properly cited, had tons of info on it, and the owner of the Tinkernut Website even contributed to the article.Zaz986 (talk) 23:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I've restored the article. The article makes notability claims, and so A7 is not appropriate.  The fact that it's been speedy deleted and recreated is not grounds for another speedy - it's ground for an AfD, so take it there if you want it deleted.  00:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)


 * AFD'd. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The novice author has gone to a lot of work to try and make this article suitable.  It's not a perfect effort, but first efforts rarely are.  The courtesy of an AfD will hopeful help further the editor's understanding of Wikipedia, hopeful not run him off, and possibly result in a keep.  Personally, I'm on the fence.  Rklawton (talk) 05:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete the article or articles on "Melissa Scott", the televangelist?
Why did you delete the article or articles on "Melissa Scott", the televangelist? Was it because she asked to have it removed? Or was it for notability? Or was it some other reason? Just curious... Thanks. 76.243.129.222 (talk) 22:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure which article you mean. Please provide a link. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fossa (animal)
Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

InTopSens v2
Hi,

I know that Giftiger wunsch and the creator Dannyhill put a lot of work into this page before it was moved back to main space last week, however I still feel that the subject fails to meet the WP:GNG, I did raise this with Giftiger wunsch and on the talk page, however Giftiger wunsch, for unrelated reasons, has now stopped editing WP.

I know prior to you removing the page protection you had questioned the subject meeting the WP:GNG - would you have a look again at the page and talk page where I have listed the issues relating to the refs and let me know if you think the subject meets the WP:GNG?

Thanks

Codf1977 (talk) 09:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

p.s. - your Archive box does not list your latest Archive 3 !


 * Thanks, I hadn't noticed that the archiver had moved on to the next archive. I'll take a look at the article, but you might as well either tag it for speedy or for AFD. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Fossa (animal)
Hi, I am reviewing this GA nomination of yours and have made some comments at Talk:Fossa (animal)/GA1. Thanks, Xtzou ( Talk ) 14:11, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Molly Lewis deletion
I noticed the article on musician Molly Lewis was deleted since the article did not reference why she was notable. She's a touring musician currently with Wil Wheaton, which is of note in itself. How can we re-instate the article and provide additional background on her "notability"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Lewis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perrytech2 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * One can not inherit notability by doing something with someone notable. See WP:BAND and WP:MUSIC for info on how bands and musicians need to establish notability. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:"Non-human animal sexual behaviour"
I've responded to your postscripted comment. -Stevertigo (w | t | e) 18:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm on break. I'll reply at a later date. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

GA Review for Zanzibar Red Colobus
Please see the GA review. WTF? (talk) 19:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Image removed. Carry on. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 02:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Now! Artists of Foto-Medium-Art Gallery
Hi, You have deleted my note about this exhibition. I'd like to ask if I can rewrite the text. The director of the gallery will send you a permission. Is it ok? LeoniMa (talk) 22:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:27, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of InTopSens
An article that you have been involved in editing, InTopSens, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Codf1977 (talk) 11:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 12:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Issue Regarding Deleted Article
Hello, I'm writing because of deleted article Esenthel Engine, deletion discussion available here Articles for deletion/Esenthel Engine. The discussion made more than year ago, however was about the previous version of the article, the two reasons for deletion of the article was advertising tone of the article and lack of secondary sources. Both reasons no longer applied to the improved secondary version of the article, it was online for long time, but just few days ago I noticed it was removed. Silverbyte (talk) 12:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't want to speak for UtherSRG, but I notice he has a note at the top of this page saying he's on an extended wikibreak so figured I'd comment. You are correct on the reasons for deletion of the initial version of the article, but the recreation speedy can be applied where the article has been recreated but hasn't addressed the issues that caused it to be deleted initially.  Looking at the two final versions prior to deletion, the second go around had addressed the advertorial tone but still failed to supply sufficient reliable sources (in my opinion) to support notability.  Since most of the links were back to Esenthel's own website, one could make the point that it was still essentially trying to promote the product...but that is secondary to the issue with sufficient reliable sources.  I hope that helps. Syrthiss (talk) 12:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree - no notable secondary coverage. Rklawton (talk) 12:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh sure... reply to this comment but not the last half a dozen. Thanks guys. ;) Yup, I'm on break, popping in every now and then to check messages. The article had continued to fail notability, as both Syrthiss and Rklawton have said. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I know, it is hard to believe that I am neither omnipresent nor omniscient... :D Syrthiss (talk) 12:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello, what about these external sources: being mentioned in the PhysX Info website - http://physxinfo.com/news/1120/esenthel-engine-updated-with-physx-sdk-2-8-3/ the leading news provider about the most popular physics software PhysX among game engines, listed in the Khronos Group consumer list - http://www.khronos.org/consumers/product_details/esenthel-engine/ . Besides the engine is pretty popular among game engine related portals, such as Mod DB - http://www.moddb.com/engines/esenthel-engine, DevMaster.net - At this date ranked as being #10 most popular commercial game engine in the Devmaster Engine Database - http://www.devmaster.net/engines/ , here - http://www.devmaster.net/engines/engine_details.php?id=600 . I even found some interview about Esenthel on 3D-Test news portal - http://www.3d-test.com/index.php , here - http://www.3d-test.com/interviews/Esenthel_1.htm Silverbyte (talk) 14:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Essentially - I cannot confirm that any of those are reliable sources. I don't know what their editorial standards are, or whether they just pass on press release information from manufacturers, or what.  You might try to ask on the Reliable sources noticeboard and see if the editors there have an opinion on those sources, but I suspect that their answer will be the same.  The links above that I looked at were the physxinfo.com site, the khronos.org site and the 3d-test site. Syrthiss (talk) 15:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Trying again
Hello again. On WT:CSD, I have reproposed (after discussion was archived) the "A11" criterion for deletion of how-to articles. I am not including essay articles at this time. Since you are familiar with the topic, I thought I'd let you know so that you could voice your opinion on this. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 15:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Indianapolis Men and Women's Work Release Program
FYI: I noticed that you participated in Articles for deletion/Indianapolis Men and Women's Work Release Program, so I thought you might be interested in Articles for deletion/Indianapolis Men and Women's Work Release Program (2nd nomination). Location (talk) 05:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hanseo University
Hey, I wondered if you could undelete Hanseo University. I teach there, I am a Professor of International Relations, and there are over 5000 students at the university who, I think, deserve to have their university represented on Wikipedia. I would appreciate working with content that was already in existence. Please undelete the content, or I will begin afresh. Thanks for your attention. best wishes, Simon G. Gillett —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simongillett (talk • contribs) 13:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The previous text was "Hanseo University (한서대학교) is a University in Seosan, Chungcheongnam-do, Korea." Start from scratch. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Wolverines in captivity
I'm not sure what the point is of the list - it just keeps slowly growing, and sooner or later it'll just expand to include every captive wolverine in the world. If there were only three or four then maybe it'd be encyclopedic but there seem to be enough now that the list borders on the trivial. I intend to remove the thing unless someone objects. JohnInDC (talk) 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I've removed the whole section. Folks can go to http://isis.org to find out which zoos have wolverines or any species. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the section was listy and full of excessive detail, but I think it's still worth saying something about the general topic. I've added a very brief summary as a subsection of the "Range" section, although I'm not sure if that's the best place for it. -- Avenue (talk) 12:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

It looks good to me - thanks for the refinement. JohnInDC (talk) 13:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Not so fast. I don't believe less than four hours on 9 May 2010 is enough time to achieve consensus. In the USA, the Bush administration refused to give Wolverines endangered species protection, however, that decision could be reversed by the Obama administration. According to the isis website there are approximately only 104 wolverines in captivity worldwide! Wolverines are a very rare and special animal. (It is not like listing all the goats or sheep in the world.) I believe the captivity information is very helpful. Especially with links to the specific zoos that have wolverines. If some people feel this information is "listy and full of excessive detail" or "trivial" the perhaps there is another way. If all else fails a separate wiki article on wolverines in captivity could be started. Please respond with some creative suggestions other than deletion. Thanks Citizen-of-wiki (talk) 23:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Please reply on wolverine discussion page. Citizen-of-wiki (talk) 23:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll decline. I stand by my statement. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of ARAI (Automotive Research Association of India)
09:50, 26 May 2010 UtherSRG (talk | contribs) deleted "ARAI (Automotive Research Association of India)" ‎ (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

I was looking for some information about this organisation, which is appears to be responsible for vehicle safety certification in India. The article may not have indicated the importance of the organisation, but a further 30 seconds on Google established (to my satisfaction) that this organisation is pretty important to the >1B people that live in India, the country with the largest number of road deaths in the world. Please undelete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.34.220 (talk) 13:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Wiki-Conference NYC (2nd annual)
Our 2nd annual Wiki-Conference NYC has been confirmed for the weekend of August 28-29 at New York University.

There's still plenty of time to join a panel, or to propose a lightning talk or an open space session. Register for the Wiki-Conference here. And sign up here for on-wiki notification. All are invited! This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Interval (time)


The article Interval (time) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * a stub that never grew beyond two odd sentences. Should be in Wictionary, not WP

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. VKIL (talk) 13:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Calculating 82041
I noticed you (at least I think it was you) speedy deleted this article A1. Just to give you a heads up, it has since been recreated. I re-placed the A1 on the article, and left a note on the creator's talk page. Umbralcorax (talk) 21:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Caxton fx
Hi. I tried moving Caxton fx to the correct uppercase Caxton FX, but it is protected from creation. I can't determine who protected it, but I assume it was you because you were the last to delete it. The current version of the article probably not satisfy the notability standards, but I would hesitate to tag it as an A7. Thus, I would suggest either deleting the current article or unprotecting Caxton FX.-- Pink Bull  15:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've done the move. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you.-- Pink Bull  04:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Tassie Devil FAR
nominated Tasmanian Devil for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.--Malkinann (talk) 11:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)