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Nero Wolfe articles
I have left some responses betwen your comments on my talk page. :: Kevinalewis  : (Talk Page) /(Desk)  08:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting in touch, Kevin -- I've replied to your replies on your talk page. Thank you, too, for your invitation to the novels project. I'll consider that. -- WFinch 13:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The NA is to enable us to search for articles that have missing ISBNs (where such are available) and also point out to people that ISBN are truely not applicable. The section in the ArticleTemplate you needs it the "Release details" on which can be used to give the various editions. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The Doorbell Rang
Hi Walter -- I just took a quick look at The Doorbell Rang -- rather, its page. (I can't believe that it's the first time I've seen it, but I believe it is.) I took a peek at the edit history and note that you've done quite a bit of editing to the page. I didn't take the time to see who has contributed what, but it does look as though you've adopted it as a sort of pet sub-project.

I write because I do think that the text needs considerable cleanup. There are errors of diction (for example, MV uses the term "syntax" when she means "diction" -- a distinction that any true believer would make), of fact (as to what the book says, as distinct from what the article now says the book says), genuine POV/OR (the comment about what the FBI would prefer to keep private), and so on. Most of the text that I find problematic appears to have been contributed by ModusVivendi, but, again, I haven't pored over the edit history.

I intend to clean it up, and to focus on the text -- not the matter on adaptations, references, infoboxes and so on. (I do think that the initial quote was well chosen.) I just wanted you to know that I'm going to start on this and to solicit your thoughts -- again, I know you must have spent a lot of time on this page already. TurnerHodges 23:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, that's good to read. Yes, it's come a long way, but the article needs so much help. I haven't edited much of the Plot summary. In the Introduction, I did add the quote and some content about Fred Cook, but that section is still pretty choppy. I wish I could have kept the book cover for The FBI Nobody Knows, which I had added; but I removed it after discovering that a book cover may only be used on its own article. I may still create an article for that book; I find that people are surprised it was real.


 * The Epilogue was a pet project, since that was information I found that could be related without editorializing. (If you haven't come across it yet, see Where There's a Will for another story about the FBI and Stout. Incredible, as Mrs. Bruner would say.) But if you see the neutrality of the article being lost anywhere, go for it. Thanks for improving this article, it's another important one. — WFinch 04:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * P.S. Oh, yes — "the parts it would prefer to keep private," which is in the "Of further interest" section. I named that section, but I kept looking at that wording... just as I've tried to fiddle with editing in the Plot summary before I've given up. Minor edits aren't going to do it. Good. — WFinch 04:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm continuing this here rather than on the Doorbell discussion page because heaven knows how long it would take to get a broader response. I'll probably post there after you and I kick this around a little.

I've done an extensive rewrite of the plot summary but don't wish to put it up before I know what should be done about other matters. My principal issue is that the Doorbell page should be about the book, not about Cook. The information about Cook, and about Stout's problems with the FBI, is important, no doubt about that, and I certainly don't wish to hide it. (In fact, I confess to considerable anti-Hoover bias and I hope it doesn't show.)

I would recommend putting the material that's presently in the section titled Epilogue on a separate page, linked from both the Doorbell page and from Rex Stout's page. The information in Epilogue is only tangentially related to Doorbell.

I have also rewritten the Introduction and the Of Further Interest sections to make them npov. Again, that can go up after it's clear what will happen to the Epilogue. BTW, the formatting of the Epilogue material does not make it clear what is from a contributor, what is from Mitgang, and whether the M. A. Jones material is from the Freedom of Information files directly or as quoted by Mitgang. If it's all Mitgang, then I'm not sure that it fits within the fair use guidelines -- it would be a very long quote. At any rate, that needs cleanup and it should probably be done by the contributor who provided it (MV?).

Your thoughts?

Regards, TurnerHodges 21:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, this part of the discussion may as well stay right here. I'm not certain the original contributor(s) are even active here these days, and this essentially concerns the Epilogue (not MV, ME).


 * I've taken your point about the Epilogue, and about Mr. Mitgang, too, who would certainly be one who would not appreciate too lengthy a quote. I've ruthlessly cut out material more suitable for the Fred Cook article, and information already on the Rex Stout page.


 * I hope what remains relates specifically enough to Doorbell to stay with the article. As a "tail," I'd like to see the FBI response to the book stay here. I'm looking forward to seeing how you've incorporated the Cook information, and you should just put up your rewrite whenever you're ready.


 * Thanks for your consideration, by the way. There could be a lot more of it here, I've found. — WFinch 00:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, it's up. The changes for neutrality that I made in the Introduction -- which I renamed Prologue, BTW, to parallel the Epilogue -- and in the Of further interest sections are very minor: just some softening, really. I did add a note referring the reader to the Rex Stout page, where the Mitgang material now figures prominently. I do think that it belongs there as part of Stout's real life rather than of Wolfe's imaginary one, in particular because of the echoes from the past in the way that today's administration runs its own Star Chambers, drumhead courts martial, phone taps without warrants and signing statements.


 * I hope the new plot summary meets with readers' approval, and yours. As I was editing the old one (a project I gave up -- I decided I had to start from scratch) I kept notes on the reasons I was deleting and changing, and I halfway expect to need them later on.


 * As to "consideration," yes, there's a certain coarseness to the nature of the communications on Wikipedia, and what I read as acting out behavior. I find that I miss CompuServe's old moderated forums, where sysops enforced civility and encouraged courtesy. The administrators could do more of that themselves, but as I read their comments, some of them seem to be working out their own personal issues in this relatively anonymous medium. TurnerHodges 15:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd struggled with editing the existing plot summary, too, and got depressed at the prospect. Now, it's — well, it's remarkable. I don't believe there's a single Wolfe book article more important to have done well here. And now I see that poor Clifton Fadiman needs to be taken under somebody's wing; splendid... Well, if that wants to haunt me it'll have to take a number.


 * Heaven knows where the term Epilogue came from (not the novels project template, I can tell you) but I like there being a Prologue to go with it. It occurred to me that every episode of the old Efrem Zimbalist TV show, "The FBI," would end with an Epilogue, so maybe that burrowed its way out of my subconscious. In any case, that device brackets off the Cook/FBI material nicely and puts the emphasis where it belongs, on the book. I can't believe you'll have to defend your changes. Thank you for the exceptional work you put into this one. — WFinch 20:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Meet Nero Wolfe
[Hi there — Would you revisit the article for the film Meet Nero Wolfe and reevaluate your tagging it as a stub? Although this is a relatively new film article, I don't believe it's a stub. There's also a template visible at the bottom of the article that's redlinked. Thanks, WFinch 15:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)]


 * The major thing that is lacking (see templates on talk page) is the "film image" - a poster or DVD cover for the infobox. Once that's added, it can easily be upgraded to start.  SkierRMH 20:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see your talk page; it's easier for me to keep the discussion together in one place, so I've replied there. — WFinch 21:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC) [Done. All of the template requirements are now fulfilled, I believe. Will you edit the article and talk page to reflect that? Thanks, WFinch 21:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)]


 * I updated the article page, but left a note on the talk page thereof. The "filmimage" is not a screen shot, but the film poster, or DVD or VHS cover scan.  SkierRMH 02:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[Thanks for removing the template from the article page. You're right, the "filmimage" I've put in the infobox is not a screenshot — it's a scan of an original, vintage promotional photo, as described in the fair use rationale on the image page. This is a little-seen 1936 film that, among a great many other titles, has never seen a legitimate release from the studio. It's never been issued on DVD or VHS, so there is no cover to scan and no screen to shoot. Perhaps, though, the note you've left on the talk page will draw the attention of an editor who has a copy of the film poster, although I would think this image is adequate. I expect this happens from time to time with old, obscure films. Thanks for your attention. — WFinch 03:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)]

Nero Wolfe novellas
Just letting you know that, following our discussion on my talk page, the "Nero Wolfe novellas" category has met its doom. (Yes! It was me! In the library, with the candlestick!! And I'm not sorry, you hear me?!! ... *ahem*) --Paul A 08:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No tears will be shed. The category title "Nero Wolfe short story collections" matches what's been done for Sherlock Holmes, and that's just as it should be. I also see that Murder Is Corny (detective story) zips over so nicely to Trio for Blunt Instruments — clean as a whistle. Thank you. — WFinch 16:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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Piping
Hi. Re piping in disambig pages, we do use pipes for things like italics for proper titles. See that, and the other exceptions, at WP:PIPING. Thanks :) -- Quiddity (talk) 21:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry — I got carried away. I got one "Once" right, anyway, and I'll restrain myself from here on. Thank you. — WFinch (talk) 21:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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 * I've reset the clock on this investigation to be sure you have a chance to participate. I'm watchlisting your talk page but am also watching the article in case you are able to help clarify this situation. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The material in question was not contributed by me. Please review the edit history of the article; it was added November 28, 2007, by a user named Mdtalley, after my edit of November 12. I see the notice on that user's talk page, but there has been no response. I would suggest that the blanked material be removed from the article. — WFinch (talk) 14:15, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * My mistake; I'm sorry. And since the contributor was advised, there's no need to reset the clock. :) With respect to the quote from Time, which you did contribute (double-checking :)), I'll create an abbreviated version of that to put in the article after the copyvio has been cleaned. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Murdoch Myteries
Thanks for putting in a link in the tempo plate for the show. Do you know how to make a table of contents above the episodes, same as other shows? I've tried to figure out, since show has a third season coming and this would make it easier to go to individual seasons if someone wanted, instead scrolling down the entire page. TH43 (talk) 08:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You made me think a minute... The best way to handle it, I realized, was to add the "References" section that had been requested (and I added "External links" for good measure). I think once more than three sections exist in an article, a "table of contents" box, complete with links, appears miraculously at the top of the page. And there it is! —WFinch (talk) 16:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see — an article can have as few as two section headings and still have a "contents" box at the top. The problem had been with the formatting of the section headings, which had been bracketed by three equal signs rather than two. So that's the secret, using the larger type with the rule below. —WFinch (talk) 16:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what the second paragraph means, but thanks. Btw, I moved the websites/link from "References" to "External Links". That's where they belong. I also updated the official site for the show, by removing the mention of episodes, I've checked the site, episodes aren't listed there. TH43 (talk) 23:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

collecting Stout

 * The far less valuable Viking book club edition may be distinguished from the first edition in three ways: ...

Rather than putting this paragraph in every Wolfe book article, I think it would be better style to refer briefly to a single page, either on WP (an article about the Viking book club, or book clubs in general, or book collecting?) or elsewhere (if such a website exists). —Tamfang (talk) 20:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The Mystery Guild editions began with And Be a Villain. Feel free to edit the articles if you think of a better way to help people make the distinction; it's a frequent point of confusion. —WFinch (talk) 21:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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"Stub class"
I've noted that there's a hard-working individual going through a long list of novels and adding the "stub" category tag to the articles based on the assessment on the associated talk page. This came to my attention with The League of Frightened Men and I note that a number of other Wolfe novels have been so tagged. The individual in question seems well-intentioned, and the problem seems to be that the assessments themselves are out of date and way, way too low. My Wikipedia contributions have been very minimal lately; I wondered if you might be interested in taking on the task of upgrading the assessments for at least the Wolfe novels. Thanks in advance for your attention to this note and any effort you feel you can expend. Accounting4Taste: talk 15:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello, there — seems like old times. You've brought me back from the brink of what may have been a permanent Wikibreak. Certainly, I'll follow your lead with ABAV and upgrade the NW novels classed as stubs. I appreciate all the attention you've given to the detective fiction works here, particularly the Stouts. — WFinch (talk) 01:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. I did find criteria at WikiProject Novels/Assessment. I wouldn't think any of the Stout novels would classify as stubs, but I've left the class and/or tag on those that do need a bit of work. — WFinch (talk) 13:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Much obliged for your efforts (and your kind words). I looked at the quality scale and distilled it (possibly to its detriment) to a rough-and-ready rule of thumb: if it's got more than three references, it ain't a stub LOL.  The same reviewer has worked on some novels by Christie, Queen, Sayers, etc., so I have a little bit of work to occupy me.  (I realized a few weeks ago that I hadn't actually contributed any information to the 'pedia in months, and that I was more of a traffic cop/Miss Manners than I felt was good for me, so I have been reassessing.  But I like contributing actual information about detective fiction.)  Cheers. Accounting4Taste: talk 15:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Spam on Charter?
W,

(And I wonder how much you like that nickinitial.)

I have tried twice today to send you email regarding Too Many Clients. Both messages bounced back from your postmaster, flagged as spam. I'm using the same To: and From: as I have in the past and there's nothing unusual in either the Subject line or the body of the message. I partly just thought you ought to know (or perhaps you did). And partly I wanted to express bemusement. Regards, TurnerHodges (talk) 00:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Copyright status of scripts for NW articles?
Hi WFinch. I think it's awesome that you're improving Nero Wolfe articles, but I'm curious - do you know the copyright status of the scripts you are linking to in some articles (eg The Silent Speaker)? That is, is it legal for nerowolfe.org to be publishing them? If it's not, and the site is violating copyright by posting them, I think we're not supposed to link to them, so I just wanted to check in with you and see if you can say for sure that we're safe on this. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 22:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, there. The script PDFs were given to the Wolfe Pack by Sharon Doyle, head writer and consulting producer for the A&E series. The webmaster would be able to confirm that they're posted legally on the site, as I believe they are. — WFinch (talk) 23:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds reasonable. Carry on :) keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 23:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Audio theatre an article to audio dramas
Please if you have time and you know anything to it (I have seen that you have made edits in the article area which owns relations on it), please look on the article Audio theatre, somebody placed a erase discussion on it. after we have had a merge discussion. It would be interesting what you would say to the merge and the delete discussion. And possibly it could help to contact other people that they should help also. )-: Merry Xmas --Soenke Rahn (talk) 14:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

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Ann Devroy
I just wanted to thank you for your excellent work on the Devroy article! I very much appreciate it. 88guy88 (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much; it was a great pleasure. It's turned out to be a pretty fun read, too. — WFinch (talk) 23:54, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

removal of references
WF: I feel puzzled. What's the purpose for your removal of the references by Nasaw and Bogdanovich? Thanks. Doc. DocRushing (talk) 15:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, Doc. Re: the Citizen Kane article — Those two sources are already cited inline (the preferred method, I believe) with specific page numbers in the section headed "Notes". That's why I removed them from the "bibliography" section, which seems a bit POV since it isn't comprehensive. Its being listed in the "bibliography" gave disproportionate attention and weight to the Nasaw book, which is cited only once in the article — that's what got my attention. As for the Welles-Bogdanovich book, I've cited that specifically myself in my contributions to the article, and it appears repeatedly in the section headed "Notes".


 * I'll happily restore those two titles to the "bibliography"; but maybe the method of listing sources, references and notes on this article could use some discussion. Thanks. — WFinch (talk) 16:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * OK. No problem.  Thanks for the explanation.  Doc.  DocRushing (talk) 20:07, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank for for the barnstar and the explanation — Ann Devroy would be proud of me. — WFinch (talk) 00:40, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

It's All True
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 * Thanks. As a more knowledgeable editor, can you move It's All True over the redirect that's in place on the correctly titled page It's All True (disambiguation)? I know that moving the "It's All True" page is preferable, but the disambiguation page already exists — and redirects to the page that appears to be titled incorrectly for a disambiguation page. I wasn't savvy enough to figure out how to do it correctly. — WFinch (talk)

Citizen Kane
This afternoon, as you may have noticed, a new anonymous user removed some content from Citizen Kane.

Do you concur with his action or his explanation in his edit summary?

A matter like this appears to be down your alley.

Thanks.

DocRushing (talk) 21:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought it wouldn't hurt to segregate each negative review to its own paragraph. We seem to have lost the thread of the Bergman comments.


 * As for the first negative review, this is how the citation reads in the online source:


 * "Excerpted from Ray Carney's, 'Citizen Kane on its Fiftieth Anniversary: The Greatest Movie Ever Made?' The Christian Science Monitor, Tuesday, April 30, 1991."


 * Actually, the byline on that Christian Science Monitor article — which is titled Orson Welles and 'Rosebud' Ride Again, as near as I can tell — is David Sterritt. He invited various film experts, most of them educators, to weigh in on the significance of Citizen Kane on the eve of its 50th anniversary revival. Ray Carney is one; there are eight others, who are pretty positive in their views on Citizen Kane.


 * Also, what's presented online in that source is not an excerpt: it actually expands on what's contained in the Christian Science Monitor article.


 * Still, neither version grants Citizen Kane any praise whatsoever. The closest Carney comes to noting any technical achievements is to remark on its "tendentious photography." So, I think the edit can stand, FWIW, since it accurately communicates his opinion. The anonymous editor evidently knows something about that. — WFinch (talk) 01:22, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Roger. Thanks much.  DocRushing (talk) 01:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Why, thank you — it's rather a sweet little movie. It's my pleasure to help people find out more about it — and learn about it myself at the same time. — WFinch (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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Your work on the Nero Wolfe novella articles
Thank you very much for all of your efforts on these articles. Best regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Newyorkbrad — it feels good to get that done. It should be easier for people to find the stories, figure out which is which, and add information. Lots of room to grow, now. — WFinch (talk) 13:24, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It sure is easier now. Great work!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirawithani (talk • contribs) 13:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

The War of the Worlds (radio drama)
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A belated thank you for adding the information on additional early Rex Stout short stories to our Rex Stout articles. This drew my attention to the FictionMags index and enabled me to locate these stories for a Wolfe Pack project. (Please let me know offline if you would like copies.) Best regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Joseph Cotten
Just a heads up since you do lots of work on this article. I did a further edit about Cotten suffering a stroke in 1981 plus put a IC in about that and his autobiography.

Also I just discovered that Cotten had his larynx removed in 1990 due to throat cancer. Here's a source for it. Maybe you want to work that into the article too....William 17:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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Citizen Kane
Just saw your edit on Kane and wanted to reach out a personal thanks. I've just finished a c/e on the whole article, and noted several bits which needed cleaning, as obviously different editors have added different pieces over the years. The redaction of the Rosebud Yellow Robe subsection and incorporating into the existing discussion of Rosebud was desperately needed. I was going to get to it in the next week or so, but nice job! Thanks. Onel5969 (talk) 13:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, too, for your work on the article. The bit I reworked this morning was someone's recent addition and very far afield, I thought. That's tightened up now. — WFinch (talk) 22:40, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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Welles Festival
Hi - I don't know how plausible this is for you geographically, but I wanted to make sure that you are aware of this (coming up next month): http://welleswoodstock.com/year-2014/ http://www.woodstockoperahouse.com/files/Events/PerformancePages/2014Welles_Festival.html

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 * Thanks again, especially for the links — I'd heard about the festival but didn't have the details. I'll look into that. — WFinch (talk) 12:58, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi again - As with last year, I don't know how practical this is for you in terms of your location, but I want to make sure you are aware of the Welles events going on in Woodstock IL in May 2015: http://welleswoodstock.com/year-2015/schedule-2015/ KConWiki (talk) 19:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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Rex Stout and HUAC
I've read the statement that Stout received, and ignored, a HUAC subpoena or invitation numerous times (not just on Wikipedia and sites sourced from Wikipedia), and even used it in talks I've given myself, so I will try to find corroboration for it, including from the HUAC files at the National Archives if need be. I'll let you know what I turn up.

Meanwhile, on the related subject of Stout's FBI file, which was extensive, I strongly recommend the book Dangerous Dossiers by the late Herbert Mitgang. Best regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, please — if you can nail down that HUAC business (and you'd be just the one to do it) that would be outstanding. I've only seen the statement in sources that I think found it on Wikipedia. Thanks for rising to the challenge.


 * Dangerous Dossiers — I do have that; it made my day when I spotted a copy at an antique mall a few years back. "Prematurely anti-Nazi" — Mitgang found a wonderful way to put that. But oh dear, I didn't realize that he had died. — WFinch (talk) 04:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Just last November&mdash;a few days before I gave a talk about Stout's FBI file to the Wolfe Pack Assembly, using the book chapter as well as the copies of Stout's file that Mitgang placed at the New York Public Library as my prime sources. (But I didn't realize that he had died until much later, and in fact had tried to reach him around the time to see if he might want to give the talk.) Should we add a little bit more from Dossiers to Stout's article? Will keep you posted as to HUAC. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:12, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd like to see more, myself, because people find that period interesting and it's so relevant today — and Stout was such an example. I'd contributed some material awhile ago that I found in the Mitgang book, but there was such a level of detail that the consensus was to move the bulk of it to the articles on Where There's a Will and The Doorbell Rang. Oh what a shame, I bet Mitgang would have been a wonderful speaker. — WFinch (talk) 17:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The National Archives advises me that Stout has a file in the HUAC records. I will take a look at it the next time I am in Washington and copy anything interesting. (How to source anything I find there for on-wiki use may be another matter. I might need to write an article about it, and then I can cite that. :) ) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, yay, and oh jeepers, re: the citation. I hope there's a way to cite it, but it's nice that there's always the Gazette. The WP would be thrilled to see it first. You oughta be a detective. And I sure hope you find something worth reporting! — WFinch (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting comment...
Hi! Would you care to review my FA nomination for the article Of Human Feelings? The article is about a jazz album by Ornette Coleman, and the criteria for FA articles is at WP:FACR. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers! Dan56 (talk) 01:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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Welles
Hi, Firstly I admire your work on Citizen Kane and other Welles related articles. I was just wondering if you (of all editors) had any thoughts about getting an article ready for TFA for Welles' 100th birthday in May? It seems very appropriate. I've only ever worked on Chimes at Midnight and don't foresee doing any additional work on that article until Callow's third book is published, which unless I'm mistaken is scheduled for May. Do you think Kane needs much more work to be ready for a GA nomination, let alone FA? The thing is FA nominations can take some time to get started by reviewers so if you did agree that Welles' birthday would be a great day for a TFA, the sooner the better.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thank you. I hadn't specifically thought about article status of any of the Welles-related articles, I'm just trying to improve them across the spectrum. I have especially wanted to get the Orson Welles article in good shape for the 100th anniversary of his birth, since many people will be looking at it on that day. Citizen Kane seems in quite good shape to me, so if you're familiar with the process perhaps you can start moving it forward — TFA would be wonderful for May 6. I did see at Wellesnet that Simon Callow's book will be delayed a bit. — WFinch (talk) 15:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Cool, that probably would be the best article for May 6. One recent book called Orson Welles in Italy is on the one hand a bit boring but on the other hand has some good info about why Welles really moved to Europe in the late 1940s, which I think needs some expansion in the article since so many people have different theories about that. Unfortunately the book goes on way too long and becomes really redundant at times.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 17:48, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Would you object if I cut out about half of the block quotes used in Kane and turned them into paraphrased sentences? This was one of the main two suggestions from the articles Peer Review (the other being sourcing all material) and after re-reading the article I would agree that it would be an improvement.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 23:31, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * "Mankiewicz had only received two screenplay credits since 1935, and he needed the job." - I think this is very misleading. Mank was working on scripts uncredited, which has always been a very common practice (script doctoring) and was especially common in the studio era.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:57, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Feel free to trim it. It wasn't my initial contribution, but I cut it, and then restored it when I thought there was an appropriate place for the information. — WFinch (talk) 04:06, 5 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Have you considered creating a new article entirely about the writing of the script and its controversy/debate? It seems warranted and it would make Citizen Kane shorter and more readable. I know of film articles with supporting articles like Interpretations of 2001: A Space Odyssey and even Early life of David Lynch, but I'm not sure about the precedent. I think the entire "Sources" section would also go nicely there, and everything could be summarized in a few paragraphs in the Kane article. Do you mind if I ask about it on the WikiProject Film board?--Deoliveirafan (talk) 04:05, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems to me it'd be better to keep everything together, but checking with the Film Project sounds like a good idea since they should be aware of the work being done on this article they consider core to their work. The length doesn't bother me; the structure of it makes it quite readable via the TOC box. — WFinch (talk) 04:15, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yea but the length will definitely bother a lot of people tasked with reviewing and promoting the article. I'm very confident about that, be prepared for a lot of requests for trims. I'm just going to ask about it on the board.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 04:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Good. You're probably right; there are a number of "main article" links throughout the Orson Welles article itself, and one for "Sources" would probably work. — WFinch (talk) 04:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * For possessives, I've been using " Welles's ". But I've also noticed some " Welles' ". Do you know which is correct?--Deoliveirafan (talk) 05:38, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * They're both correct, really, but the consensus was to go with "Welles's". Some editors arrived at that before I even touched a Welles article, so I've been routinely fixing any "Welles'" I find. — WFinch (talk) 15:28, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

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Is there a WP policy somewhere that states that, even if a photo occupies only 2% of an image, this means that the image should be in JPEG format? If so, please point me to this policy.

Moreover, shouldn't there at least be some template on the image description page to reflect that as a result of the image being a JPEG, 98% of it is poor quality? — Smjg (talk) 00:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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Kane
Just out of curiosity, since you've done so much research in the scripting, are there really no comparisons between Mr. Bernstein and Arthur Brisbane, or references to Brisbane being Bernstein's model?--Deoliveirafan (talk) 04:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Boy, I haven't seen anything except Brady's reference to Carvalho, and that was buried pretty deep. — WFinch (talk) 04:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yea, just wondering. It was just a hunch on my part.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 04:58, 8 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi. Do you have a copy of "Perspectives on Citizen Kane"? I can't find it and it has a copy of Norman Gambill's interview with Maurice Seiderman, which I'm hoping will add another paragraph or two to the Make-up sub-section.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:20, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't have the book, but I do have that 1978 issue of Film Comment magazine and it will add a lot. I'll contribute to that section. — WFinch (talk) 17:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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Orson Welles
My intention was to remove Category:Orson Welles from any page where the subject's association with Welles is not a defining characteristic, though I now see that I removed more pages and files than I intended. I'll go fix that now. Trivialist (talk) 00:54, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Kane
Just to let you know I asked User:David Fuchs, who did a peer review in August 2013, to take another look and do an unofficial second look review on the talk page. I figure its a good time to get an opinion on the article.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed — thank you. — WFinch (talk) 02:11, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Even though it needs more work and (in my opinion) a few more expansions, I think you should nominate it for GA status now. A (good) nomination should provide a lot of feedback and checklists of things that need to be done and I think it would be a good time to get the ball rolling. If you do I'll keep an eye on it and help out with any work that needs to be done.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 19:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Damn, there's a huge backlog of GAN's right now. Its your call, but you could always try to skip GA and nominate it for FA right away. If you nominate it I think you should also mention it on the Film Task Force board, hopefully the fact that its Kane will give it some extra interest. Also, just for the record, although I think that realistically the article should be split, I would personally prefer it to be all one big article. I read that exceptions are sometimes made for long articles, and I suppose that if any article on films would deserve precedent it would be Kane, so I think its worth requesting if you still want it to be one big article. But, time's running out.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Citizen Kane
Hi, I was just looking over this article, & saw that it has one item that will block it from being seriously considered for GA: there is a tag in the section "Themes" stating that the section requires expansion. Either the tag needs to be removed, or the section needs to be beefed up with more examples of themes in this movie. (PS, I wish I was better informed about movies so I could review this article; except for this one problem it feels a lot like GA or FA quality.) -- llywrch (talk) 05:43, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for giving it your attention, and for letting me know about that tag. I've just removed it; I think was added by the editor who was developing that section. — WFinch (talk) 05:50, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Citizen Kane
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Citizen Kane you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of BenLinus1214 -- BenLinus1214 (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. — WFinch (talk) 18:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

GA review
What's your opinion on splitting up the article? (Like a page on "Authorship of Citizen Kane") I don't think it's too big of an issue but because it's come up before I just want to get your thoughts…other than that, it looks good and I'm about ready to pass. BenLinus 1214 talk 21:03, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Splitting the article has been recommended informally, and recent contributors are hoping to receive guidance on which section(s) to break out into their own articles. Creating a "Sources" article has been suggested, as well, since that information isn't so integral to the pre-production phase. Thank you so much for your time in going through the Citizen Kane article, I really appreciate it. — WFinch (talk) 21:22, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay. Personally, I don't think it's a big enough problem to deny or even put on hold a GA, but I would fix this issue before taking it to FA. BenLinus  1214 talk 22:05, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree, really, because both authorship and sources deepen the context of the film. That information isn't collected very well anywhere else, and breaking it off … Well, we'll see what the consensus is. Thanks again. — WFinch (talk) 22:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Citizen Kane
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Barnstar(ish) award for you
Pretty darned nifty, and much appreciated. — WFinch (talk) 16:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Kane
Hey, probably should have pinged you before, but if you haven't already noticed I did this a while ago and it looks like the ball is beginning to roll on it.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 01:33, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh thank you — no, I hadn't seen that. That's good news, and it'll be fun to get back to this. — WFinch (talk) 03:10, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * In case you both haven't seen it yet, I've started the peer review. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:54, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, very much appreciated.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 16:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You have my thanks, as well, for your thought and effort on the Citizen Kane peer review. — WFinch (talk) 13:10, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Commons
Wonder if you've ever noticed something like this on some of your uploads? When I discovered this some time ago, I'd seen quite a few of your uploads with WPA licenses thrown "into the net". The user has tried for adminship twice. I also keep score :-) and this was one of the reasons I became inactive there in March. We hope (talk) 12:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you; I noticed it in February, IIRC, with uploads from the Federal Theatre Project and The American Magazine. It took me a little while to figure out what was going on, but I certainly didn't appreciate his level of zeal until reading this. Maybe I should keep score, too, since the files he's tagged are so clearly public domain it's comical. — WFinch (talk) 15:44, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Stork-Club-Cub-Room-November-1944.jpg Take a look at the bottom of the page-Zorro strikes again! :/ We hope (talk) 01:27, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, so I see. I counted, and more than four dozen of the files I've uploaded since February 7 have been caught in this sifting, more than half of them Federal Theatre Project images. Someone on his talk page asked what was going on, and he seems to feel that even though it's a sloppy procedure it does catch some bad images. Fine, but I wish he'd purge his "Possible DR" pages once he's made his review. I doubt that anyone really pays attention other than the uploader, but it's aggravating. — WFinch (talk) 13:52, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * He's more El Kabong than Zorro; these PD images have been grabbed for potential deletion requests, too: File:FDR-Memorial-Fala.jpg + File:Fala-detail-FDR-Memorial.jpg I'll soon be uploading another offending file. — WFinch (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * How about this guy? :-) Am wondering when something's going to be done about this because all he seems to be succeeding at is offending veteran users. We hope (talk) 15:48, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

File:The-Devil-Strikes-at-Night-DVD.jpg
Are you asking for both or only one of the pictures to be deleted? If only one which one? Rmhermen (talk) 20:16, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking — please delete the image file entirely. It won't be used in the article at all. WFinch (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

The Case of the Final Fade-Out
In case you are interested, the subject episode will be shown on MeTV this Thursday, June 25 at 11:30 PDT. http://metvnetwork.com/schedule/2015-6-25 Television fan (talk) 15:30, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you — it will be much more interesting viewing now that we know the backstory! And I'm looking forward to the series beginning all over again. — WFinch (talk) 15:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed! Television fan (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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Chicken/egg
Which came first, the AFI notes or the TCM notes? Do you know for certain that AFI is the originator? For my part, I've been awrae of the TCM notes for years, but only saw the AFI notes recently, so my (personal) impression is tha TCM is the originator, but I'm more than willing to be shown to be wrong. BMK (talk) 01:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm, maybe answering my own question: the AFI FAQ has details on how the notes are assembled, so I guess they're the originating source. BMK (talk) 01:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, there's a graphic at TCM that reads "Powered by AFI" (on the "Notes" page it's part of the border, upper right side). Thought they should get some credit. — WFinch (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Didn't see that graphic, thanks for pointing it out. I'll use AFI in the future for the Notes material instead of TCM. (Those notes usually contain a lot of good material.) Another subject - why do you think your update of the Algiers poster (and my update to your update) isn't showing up in the article, at least for me, even when I purge my cache? BMK (talk) 02:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh thank goodness it's not just me — I can't imagine why the new upload hasn't shown up yet. I've never seen anything like it. If it's really stuck, maybe tomorrow you can upload that last edited poster image (thank you) as a separate file, and the other can be orphaned and deleted.


 * The AFi graphic is so very small I'm not surprised you didn't see it — I doubt anyone sees it. That AFI site used to be pretty stingy when it came to accessing that information, but they appear to have loosened up. The fact that they cite the sources they use … that's very helpful. — WFinch (talk) 03:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea about the re-upload. I'll check tomorrow. BMK (talk) 03:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hi. Did you remove Lily Furedi from the Notables section because she was not sufficiently notable or because you believe she wasn't in the project? Delabrede (talk) 23:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Update: I see it was the latter. My evidence that she was in the FAP comes from the 1940 US Census. She told the census taker that her occupation was "mural painting" for the "WPA Art Project." See https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:248W-JYG -- Delabrede (talk) 23:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Very good! Thank you — I've just reinstated her name, and cited the 1940 census after checking Ancestry.com. I'll add her name to the List of Federal Art Project artists. — WFinch (talk) 00:22, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I see you beat me to it. Thanks again. — WFinch (talk) 00:27, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding image
Thanks for adding the image from Caesar to the Alice Frost page. I appreciate your help. Eddie Blick (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You're certainly welcome — I'm happy you've created an article for her! She's one of the many unsung Mercury Theatre people. — WFinch (talk) 16:12, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

First National Pictures
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 * "First National Pictures" was a redirect to the article "First National", so by the above, it was not necessary to change it.


 * "If you were going to change it " First National Pictures" would not be the way to do it. " First National Pictures " would be correct

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Thank you for the improvements to the Timberline Lodge article, especially for the wonderful images you have added. Good work! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you! What a story that is — very moving, and important to tell. — WFinch (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi WFinch, I am Pretzel4. Thank you for your edits to the Gunstock article. I do a lot of editing on NH skiing articles as well, and I saw on your user page that you are into Nero Wolfe! I am a big Nero Wolfe fan as well. See you around Pretzel4 (talk) 04:41, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well how about that — hello! The A&E TV series got me started reading the Nero Wolfe stories, and from there I've gone on and on … including editing Wikipedia. I learned a lot from the little bit of editing I did on the Gunstock article. Thanks for your message, I'm glad we ran into each other. — WFinch (talk) 06:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Citizen Kane
Hi, hope you've been well and belated Happy New Year. How do you feel about the current quality of the article? I was thinking that it may be a good time to request a new Peer review, specifically with FA-status in mind. Also, not sure if you'll like this suggestion (and again my personal preference would be for it to be one long article), but had you considered shortening it by adding a new page for the entire "Style" section?--Deoliveirafan (talk) 04:54, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi—good to hear from you. Yes, a peer review would be helpful. I'd left a message on the talk page many months ago about splitting out the "Screenplay" section (no replies). It'd be a chore to summarize, but that would be a good stand-alone article, I think. I'm not so sure about the "Style" section as a stand-alone, though. Some guidance is needed, if anyone will weigh in. (For the sake of convenience, this is the link to an earlier discussion.) Thanks for your continuing attention to this. — WFinch (talk) 17:54, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've created the article Screenplay for Citizen Kane and trimmed the Kane article accordingly. It's a good enough start, I think. — WFinch (talk) 19:58, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, you reverted my edit (where I fixed dates "On January 10 Parsons and two lawyers" -> "On 10 January Parsons and two lawyers") with the explanation "flagged to use mdy dates since May 2012". Could you please explain? Flagged by whom? Where can I see those kind of flags? On another note, am I the only one to see errors with references in the article? mixer (talk) 17:17, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello there — A template that appears in edit mode at the very top of the article—"Use mdy dates|date=May 2012"—is a note to editors that month-day-year date format should be used consistently in the article. This is undoubtedly because Citizen Kane is a film that was produced and released in the U.S., where that is the conventional style; see MOS:DATETIES.
 * If there are reference errors they should be corrected. At present Citizen Kane is classed as a Good Article and it's been regularly maintained, so if the corrections are extensive or controversial it might be best to discuss them first on the article's talk page. — WFinch (talk) 17:45, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for explaining. This is how I see the article's references: http://i.imgur.com/h5jTf3K.png mixer (talk) 13:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. That isn't an error, actually. It's a style of citing sources inline with the text.
 * A citation that appears as "[7]:174" identifies the reference in the References section—the clickable "[7]" shows you it is Barbara Leaming's book—and then shows you the specific page cited, page 174.
 * Lower-case letters in brackets—[a][b]] and so on—are explanatory footnotes, linking to the Notes section.
 * At some point when you're reading the article you stop noticing those things. But when you want to know the exact source of the information very quickly, it's a very handy style. — WFinch (talk) 14:41, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * "[7]:174" type of references are really irritating. They interfere with the flow of reading for the vast majority of people (very few would need to quickly know the specific page of the reference). But this is not the place to criticize. And apart from voicing my first impression, I am definitely not the person to do that. Thank you for bothering to explain. I learned a lot! mixer (talk) 09:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

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Peer Review for Kane
Hi, do you know why the PR was closed? Peer review/Citizen Kane/archive3 Deoliveirafan (talk) 01:19, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. I'm not familiar with the procedures; is there an expiration date for pending reviews? — WFinch (talk) 12:56, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah — the removal of inactive reviews is discussed here: Peer review/Request removal policy. — WFinch (talk) 13:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Lame. Maybe submitting it for a CE would be better, although those are usually just for style. I think all of the citations are formatted correctly and there are no issues with additional citations needed right?Deoliveirafan (talk) 15:06, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Right, I think the copy is well written and the citations are very solid, so that won't be a problem. — WFinch (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Citizen Kane spelling error?
Hi. Another editor brought up a very good question regarding Hopper's quote in the pre-release controversy section, see this edit by. I don't have access to the source, but it would make more sense if Hopper said vicious, rather than viscous. Do you have access to that source?  Onel 5969  TT me 20:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I have the book, I looked it up—and it's an error. The word should be "vicious". I'll fix it straightaway, and thank you.—WFinch (talk) 20:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

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Link to "Claire Niesen" from "The March of Time (radio program)"
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Hi. I was made aware just a few hours ago about the distinction between "cultural references" and "in popular culture". sorry that you are having to revert them. just know, I am now up to speed on the rule. thanks -- Jennica ✿ Ping Me! 13:58, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I was happy to see the heading was suggested as a more encyclopedic alternative when I was editing articles with closets full of unsourced trivia. — WFinch (talk) 14:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I still feel like "in popular culture" is relevant for some articles, like bands or songs but I already had that debate with someone else/helpdesk today, heh. -- Jennica ✿ Ping Me! 14:12, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

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William Conrad: Revision history
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But the Template says; For deceased persons still married at time of death, close the date range with death year.Savolya (talk) 18:09, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, it now reads correctly, with the last entry in the "Spouse(s)" field reading "Lewis Tipton Stringer Huntley (married 1980–1994)". The year of William Conrad's death was 1994, and that closes the date range. — WFinch (talk) 18:36, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thank you, I'm happy you noticed the additions. I'm glad I was able to connect his having important roles in two important TV pilots. I only wish I could find an additional photo, but it will do for a start and I'll keep on the lookout. — WFinch (talk) 23:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

The Suspect (1944 film)
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 * Indeed! I'm so happy you've added an article for The Wolfe Pack — that's been long overdue. — WFinch (talk) 16:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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Help finishing a filmography page
WFinch, I come to you asking for you're aid in helping to finish the formation of a current page, Earl Holliman filmography. I made it myself in honor of the actor, who is also my personal friend, and I am trying to complete it using the table format for his self appearances and awards/nominations but despite what I try I can't seem to hit the nail on the head (plus, being at personal warfare with a nasty cold doesn't help my either). You seem to be keen on this type of style appearance and if you can by any chance help me to update the last 2 sections of his filmography page and have it all said and done, I would be so grateful and appreciative! Plus, someday in the hopefully near future I'd like to show this off to Earl and make his day down the road. Hope you can lend a hand, finish the page appearance, and thank you for taking the time to read/consider this on my behalf. Thank you againBlack BIC Ballpoint (talk) 21:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC).
 * Hi there — I've given the filmography a quick look, and I'll work on it. I think that integrating his appearances as himself into the appropriate sections (film or television) in chronological order would work best. I'll also start finding some citations for the content. (The Internet Movie Database isn't generally regarded as a reliable source for that information; see Citing IMDb.) It could take some time but I'll pick away at it. — WFinch (talk) 22:34, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I agree inserting his self appearances orderly into film/TV will be good so in time will needn't have a separate slot for self-appearances and I so admire how quick you jumped in too! Yes, it may take time, but with you're helping me it'll prove worth it once all is said and done. Thanks so much again and keep up the good work.Black BIC Ballpoint (talk) 10:47, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Hi there. I checked the image file at the Commons. The marginal text on the original version states that it is from the Radcliffe Archives, and the Schlesinger Library posted the file at Flickr in 2014, stating that there are "no known copyright restrictions". The institution itself has made the image available, so the licensing tag used when it was uploaded at the Commons in 2016 is appropriate and sufficient.


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Hi. I noticed that you undid my edit on Nero Wolfe's page. I checked the link that you placed, about the use of grammar symbols in quotations, and I found a mistake in what you did. But also in what I had done. I removed comas from sentences, placing periods instead. You completely reverted it. But please look the following example placed in the "use of grammar in quotations": "Fish are friends, not food", said Bruce. In that quotation the coma is outside the citation, but there is no period. So I did wrong adding the period, but I did well moving the coma and you did wrong completely undoing my partial good edit. So, given this, I will edit again the page with this new information about how things should be done; I hope the will be no misunderstandings between us. 95.253.203.9 (talk) 06:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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Got it. Sorry for the revert. Yeah, God knows any day now, research will prove that Harlon Bloch or Mike Strank isn't in the picture. FWIW, Ira Hayes is easily identifiable in the Genaust footage, and Strank is not wearing his helmet, just his soft cover, but by the time the Rosenthal picture was snapped, Strank was all but totally obscured. Posting this on my talk page and yours. Best. Sir Rhosis (talk) 21:35, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi WFinch. I saw you removed “Category:Recipients of the Meritorious Service Medal (United States)” from the Chuck Wilson (USAF U-2 pilot) article with the comment, “trim category that is not the same as the Defense Meritorious Service Medal”. I agree that the Defense Meritorious Service Medal is not the same as the Meritorious Service Medal, but Wilson was awarded both of these medals. So I think your category removal was in error. Would you please recheck? Thank you. Skeet Shooter (talk) 03:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC)


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Hi, I noticed that you were the last to update the page for Holy Sepulchre Cemetery (Worth, Illinois) and if I knew how, I would try doing the following by myself... The page for HolyS... cemetery in Worth, needs to "redirect" to the correct/updates article for Holy Sepulchre Cemetery (Alsip, Illinois).

It's confusing, as us older folks know it as being in Worth, but it's technically in "Worth Township," which in turn is in "Alsip, Illinois."

Hope this makes sense. Again, sorry for not doing it myself, but I don't want to mess something up. Thanks! XTOC6 (talk) 20:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


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