User talk:Whispyhistory/Archive 9

Happy New Year!
The happiest of belated new years to you, Whispy :) I'm excited to see what brilliant articles you're planning this year - you are one of our most valuable contributors in public health and all the esotericism of this modern life! No Swan So Fine (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


 * ... thank you. That's very kind and much is due to inspiration from your work... Whispyhistory (talk) 17:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Public health

 * Too many authors in the journals. Try et al or whatever the MOS suggested to shorten the entries. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for your help with all these. How do I cite place of birth? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * In the same way as anything else? What do you mean? Philafrenzy (talk) 14:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I used ancestry.com to find UK registry of births. Will have another look. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Reliable secondary sources are preferred, and BLP Primary applies for the living, but Ancestry etc can be used judiciously for the dead. You need to be sure you have the right person if you do use it. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:11, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's 100% the right person. Why do some people born in Gloucestershire say they are born near Bristol? Why are some people sent to Coventry and what is the born in Yorkshire rule? just out of interest...Whispyhistory (talk) 19:39, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * County boundaries and names have changed. See Bristol, Avon and South Gloucestershire. Being sent to Coventry is a form of ostracism or shunning, the born in Yorkshire rule I am not so sure about but they say you never have to ask if someone is from Yorkshire, if they are they will already have told you. See Redrose64 for details. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * See Yorkshire County Cricket Club. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks...I just saw... it should maybe have an article of its own. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, ostracism comes from the Greek ostraca (bits of broken pottery) on which the citizens of ancient Athens scratched their vote when someone was proposed for ostracism. It was to prevent any one person becoming over-powerful and there was no shame in it. The unlucky person then went into exile for several years before they could return. And I didn't even have to look that one up. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:19, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Wellbee
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Bruxton (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Cosford
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

in friendship
Thank you for being around, and your good wishes! - Happy new year, in friendship! - One of my pics was on the Main page (DYK) and even made the stats. - In this young year, I enjoyed meetings with friends in real life, and wish you many of those. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you .... Your are a good friend. Take care. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:13, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 2022 began happily with vacation. I uploaded images but stopped at 22 January - click on songs. 30 January means 10 years of Precious. It's also the birthday of a friend, - I'm so happy I mentioned his DYK on his 90th birthday when he was still alive. I have a great singer on DYK whom I heard, Elena Guseva, and wait for a Recent death appearance of Georg Christoph Biller whom I saw in action. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * My thoughts are with you ... take care. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:57, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Davey (florist)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:04, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Top and bottom hooks on the same day! Philafrenzy (talk) 21:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Tulips, bees and soon daffodils.:) Whispyhistory (talk) 06:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Is it too soon to plant tomato and sunflower seed? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:05, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You are the expert there. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. According to the Royal Horticultural Society, Tomatoes are easy to grow from seed sown indoors in warm conditions. Sow from late February to mid-March if you’ll be growing your crop in a greenhouse, or from late March to early April if they’ll be outside. - Tomatoes; Sunflowers are mainly sown from mid-April to the end of May. - Sunflower. Other gardening societies may offer different advice. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 14:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delay by two months if starting in Yorkshire, but no need to water, even in the summer. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Midwinter in Kent? == Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 16:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Good to hear from you ... thank you for guiding Philafrenzy... I guess they will lie low when bulb/seed planting season begins... I'll make sure I don't start any major new topics. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's still far too cold to plant very much and will be for a couple more months. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:11, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Anti-anti-vax propaganda. If you zoom in you can see the original message. Philafrenzy (talk) 06:52, 30 January 2022 (UTC
 * Thank you.. I was not aware of this kind of stuff? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:50, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Check out post boxes, lamp posts, walls etc in any urban area for anti-vax flyers and small stickers. Unusual to see one changed to pro-vax in this way, although they are often damaged where people have attempted to remove them. Only the plainest are possible to add to Commons because the ones with some sort of design are copyright - copyright to anonymous idiots - but copyright none the less. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:53, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If I see daylight, I will surely look out. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:58, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Guy Thwaites
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DYK for Guy Thwaites
valereee (talk) 00:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Journal of Biosecurity, Biosafety, and Biodefense Law


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DYK for Measles: A Dangerous Illness
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Suitable and unsuitable boys
Did upper class Indian households eat toasted sliced white bread for breakfast in the 1950s? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:56, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * from memory yes… let me investigate a better answer Whispyhistory (talk) 20:37, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, the whole credibility of the series rests on this point. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:04, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * According to this author.. in the 1920s Indira..nearly severed an officer's finger while brandishing a bread slicer at him...in . This person quotes K. F. Rustamji saying that Nehru ate toasted bread ... in . He was asked in 1953 what he liked best in food... Nehru replied... "bread and butter, an egg, hot coffee .... in fact, in Cambridge for several years, I had the same breakfast, sardines and toast"... in . Whispyhistory (talk) 14:09, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Excellent research. Prominent people often claim to have simple eating habits in order to seem more like the common man than they really are. If you read on in Rustamji he comments on how much Nehru liked his food and a great quantity of it. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In other news, Lata found a suitable boy, leaving just Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa and Po unmarried. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Good question, they are affectionate names... tradition... my favourite being Alu. :) Whispyhistory (talk) 20:31, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course, Tinky Winky is gay so his marital prospects depend on the law relating to same-sex marriage in Teletubby Land, which is uncertain. Quite how they know that Tinky Winky is male is also unclear. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The article on an unsuitable boy disappeared today... despite it being one of four significant celebrity biographies that have contributed to understanding how films are framed by their lives in India in 2017–18. . The title appears more than a marketing device. It has even been studied when looking at Section 377.. Did I miss something? One journalist called it "a wonderful chatty account". Whispyhistory (talk) 20:15, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It was redirected to the author. It was very short. If you feel it justifies separate treatment you could revert the redirection, but be prepared to justify its existence as a separate article. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:03, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Luke Pope
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Disneyland measles outbreak
—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Westmoreland Street
Lots about Agnes Keyser and the hospitals in this chapter from the Survey of London. Harley Street etc here, and the whole of London, as far as they have done it, here. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting.... we should probably sit this...Whispyhistory (talk) 07:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Or examine it. (Can you expand the hospital bit in Westmoreland?) Philafrenzy (talk) 08:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes... investigating Whispyhistory (talk) 08:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Prison and Chocolate Cake
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Miles Hadfield
—Kusma (talk) 12:03, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Michael L. Hess
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Westmoreland Street, London
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Greenwell Street
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DYK nomination of Kitty Shiva Rao
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DYK for Angel Street, London
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DYK for Fori Nehru
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

As usual, fantastic article. Thank you.-- Nizil (talk) 16:15, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you ... Good to hear from you. ...at one point I almost pinged you to help, but didn't want to trouble you. I have enjoyed researching her. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Always happy to help. You have brought many excellent and forgotten people to light here. Kudos. Keep editing. Nizil (talk) 02:53, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

A new Wikipedian
Dear Whispyhistory, please read Teahouse. Thanks! --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure... ...thank you. I see has has dealt with it appropriately. Will go through the cn tags. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Whispyhistory Sorry - I should have pinged you in. (I thought of it at the start, but then forgot!) Thanks for dealing with adding these sources. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:23, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please don't apologise, thank you as always. I'll look at it now. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Kitty Shiva Rao
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Phillips O'Brien
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Devonshire Close
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Two simultaneous DYKs? Is that allowed? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * We could try for 3. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Or all of them. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It is allowed since there is no written rule against it, but its rarely done. I try to typically avoid it while promoting, but I was running out of suitable older hooks. SL93 (talk) 06:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Jacqueline Kennedy's 1962 goodwill tour of India and Pakistan
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Peanuts
I have a yearning for peanuts. Do I have monkeypox? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course not... but I will keep an eye out on evolvements. Thanks for image and I have asked a professional genealogist to look into Growse. Can the gate be dyk'ed? Whispyhistory (talk) 04:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You need to expand the final two sections and say something interesting about it as at the moment it is simply a recitation of facts. Place it in the context of Indian/colonial architecture of the period etc. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Henry Naunton Davies
Was suggested by No Swan So Fine. This and plenty more online if you are interested. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I asked around. He is well known to some of my colleagues... For No Swan..of course. Are you able to stub Allenvale Cemetery, Aberdeen? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:01, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ... may leave these mining pages for while... the first death is too horrific to think about. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries, you have done plenty. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. We are all volunteers here. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:53, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 06:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Wings over Kabul: The First Airlift
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Garden Gate, Bulandshahr
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Analysis and Response Toolkit for Trust feedback
Hello, Whispyhistory! I'm writing to share information about the Analysis and Response Toolkit for Trust (ARTT). For context, ARTT aims to provide motivated citizens with tools and resources to discuss vaccine efficacy online. It could potentially help to encourage the use of quality sources in articles and also promote the use of high quality articles by those looking for ways to combat disinformation. With that in mind, we are currently seeking input from experienced editors on what they believe are the most important elements of high-quality vaccine articles. Might you be interested in joining other Wikipedians for an informal workshop on June 15 at 12pm Eastern US (4pm UTC)? If so, please RSVP to info@wikidc.org. Thanks! Ariel Cetrone (WMDC) (talk) 14:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks ... I replied to your e-mail, and sure, always great to work with you. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Open air schools

 * I guess the pandemic must be over. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * will reply tomorrow. Please check the building in Leicester Whispyhistory (talk) 18:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Your reply is worrying. Do I need to activate my secret compound in New Zealand? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you...I couldn't find any other such school articles.Whispyhistory (talk) 06:24, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Outbreak of monkeypox at Rotterdam Zoo
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Spy Princess
Isn't this the first edition: http://explore.bl.uk/BLVU1:LSCOP-ALL:BLL01013543421? Lotus Collection or Roli Books, New Delhi, later published by Sutton in England? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for image. The inside of the 2020 reprint says first published in 2006 by Sutton Publishing. Whispyhistory (talk) 02:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * First published by Sutton in 2006? Or first published anywhere in 2006? Or first published in England by Sutton in 2006? Was it jointly launched in the UK and India? Who are Roli Books and what is the Lotus Collection? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Lotus Collection is the biographies/non-illustrated/non-fiction collection (imprint) of Roli Books, that promotes books on Indian heritage. It's other imprints include Lustre Press for illustrated books and India Ink for fiction... Ref: . The founder of the company was awarded the Chevalier de la Légion d’Honneur in 2016.... Whispyhistory (talk) 02:14, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sutton publishing commissioned it. Roli came after. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur Gray (philatelist)
Gatoclass (talk) 09:51, 15 July 2022 (UTC) 12:02, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Woolly hair
Gatoclass (talk) 09:51, 15 July 2022 (UTC) 12:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Requesting some help in article expansion
Greetings @Whispyhistory Hi I am User:Bookku. Many times I find information and knowledge gaps on WP and promote related articles and drafts for further expansion. Came across your recent interesting article submission of Spy Princess @ DyK. Requesting your help in the article expansion of Draft:Amina Dawood Al-Mufti'',  an Israeli agent and also Draft:Aroosa Alam a contemporary Pakistani journalist, if any of the topic would interest you. Thanks and warm regards &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 09:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind comments ... Please feel free to message me once your articles are moved to main space. I will of course have a read. Best Whispyhistory (talk) 16:17, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Heck
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Pramod Kapoor
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An explanation for Boris Johnson's hair
Uncombable hair syndrome. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I received the same Telegraph notification. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:11, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you know of it? It wasn't mentioned in the Wooly hair article. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Didn't see the article but heard of it... the interchangeable wording by several authors makes it confusing. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:00, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't wooly hair be in the nav box at the bottom? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:25, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for The Kreutzer Sonata (painting)
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Devi
Easy to confuse hard drugs with aspirin isn't it? I would start that section by saying that she continued to work for the BBC until 1968 and also narrated two films. (why? notable? somehow her voice was relevant?) Then go on to the court case. The booklet says she started a bar in Ibiza. Was she ever married? Were there men? Or indeed women? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:39, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Felix Hoffmann invented/discovered heroin and aspirin in a two-week period (aspirin possibly with Arthur Eichengrün), but as I recall, aspirin was the one that required a prescription! Edwardx (talk) 10:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ... interesting. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clues... Checked registry of marriages and nothing there. Women... yes. Bar was very popular; apparently served crumpet. No reliable sources that I can see. Found one of her plays but not the other. Wuana's mother was also in Ibiza. Whispyhistory (talk) 22:00, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Plenty of crumpet in the Ibiza bar? Interesting. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:10, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you sure Twilight of the Maharajahs was really about her life? It's not mentioned here. Incidentally, I imagine the "mannequin walk" is walking like a model. As models were originally known as "mannequins". The "blank hauteur of the modern fashion model" was developed by Dolores. See the picture of her as Mrs Tudor Wilkinson and comments about her androgynous look in the section on Marriage. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Em.. She merged her story with it....need rewording. Text on page 49 says "Today’s Adventure programme, Twightlight of the Maharajas shows something of the former glories of the princes, and couples with this the personal story of Princess Indira of Kapurthala who ran away from her grandfather’s court to settle in England. A year ago she returned to Kapurthala for the first time since leaving her ancestral home. In the palace … she discovered half-a-dozen rusty cans of old film showing the princely life as it was over a generation ago." Whispyhistory (talk) 11:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * So people "going on a journey of self-discovery" is not a new TV trope. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you buy the book of princesses? It would be good to check the attribution of the images. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:03, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Will check when arrives. Thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Ricardo D. Eliçabe
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Pramod Kapoor
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Bevin Boys
Check out the author's comments on the Amazon page. Funny. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It has been sitting on shelves right in front of me for several years.... think I need to employ a librarian. Can you or check another princess... The NPG have some images of her which appear correct, but some websites confuse her photos with another princess of similar name. She apparently appeared in Vogue in the 1930s, but I can't see where. ?Her house :) Whispyhistory (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have had those sort of similar name problems with Arab sheikhs. Her grandfather Jagatjit Singh had six wives, and seems to have been chubby as a child, whereas our Henry VIII grew fatter later in life. Edwardx (talk) 13:08, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Jagatjit Singh had a lot of awards but did he have a 100 yards backstroke certificate like me? No he did not. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:06, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks ... I will check. I guess Henry and Jagatjit both wanted sons. Will find a source. Regarding names.. if you are looking for confusion then read this and spot how many José's there are. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Plenty of images that are probably her - particularly those in front of a microphone - but Facebook, Insta, various blogs etc are not reliable. They use any old image that seems credible. I think I have access to historic Vogue but can't remember how. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:35, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps it is Horse and Hound - it's almost the same thing. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:44, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated... ?dyk thoughts Whispyhistory (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The current image is not sourced to a reliable source. It's probably right but this is where they got it from and that looks reliable. If you are feeling rich you could buy the book. Several good BBC pics but sourcing and copyright status unclear. Vogue is behind a paywall. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Good detective work...I just wrote about the author but didn't come across that book...will look. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The cover of that book is our princess. I think I can relate to her more than any other article I have ever contributed to...leave rest to your thoughts... Whispyhistory (talk) 16:09, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www.topfoto.co.uk/asset/3374500/ Philafrenzy (talk) 16:49, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2bda67ee2e Philafrenzy (talk) 16:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * In 1948 she would be 36... how do you find these? Maybe better to wait for a more reliable source...Whispyhistory (talk) 17:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Explain. Is there one of her as a child for the gallery? Philafrenzy (talk) 17:13, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The one online as a child is not her.. daughter of Indira Devi.. it is the other Princess Indira related to Gayatri... I will look. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:18, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy with the Maharaja and Maharani of Jaipur.jpg Whispyhistory (talk) 17:23, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You now have something to put in the later life section (BFI) and an address may reveal further information. Have you done an historic newspaper search? Philafrenzy (talk) 17:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * All good stuff. Speaking of Vogue, cover model Patsy Pulitzer started today is already of DYK length, and her 1952 "world-record fish for a woman" should make for a decent hook. Plenty more to add about her work. Edwardx (talk) 09:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ... I almost thought you had forgotten to dyk it.. looks good. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Nearly, but not quite. Tomorrow, I shall be DYKing Charing Cross Trunk Murder. Philafrenzy uploaded the photo. Not too late to contribute... Edwardx (talk) 21:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ... Apologies. I only read the message in full just now. Didn't mean to be discourteous. The article looks good btw anyway. - I found a young image of Indira in piggy tales and one of her younger images in the same saree as The BBC one (in her mother's biography). Whispyhistory (talk) 11:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You can upload them to Commons if you have access to a flat-bed scanner and know what licence to give them. Regardless of what it may say in the book, once an image is out of copyright you may freely copy it. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but no need to apologise - there was never anythng amiss. Edwardx (talk) 11:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hook. Ha ha ha! Anyway, a 1,230-pound marlin? That's over half a ton, how thick was her line? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 13:49, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ... is it possible? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:08, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Spy Princess
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022
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DYK for Trevor Hill (producer)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you .... Definitely my favourite princess and not possible without you ... Whispyhistory (talk) 23:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Rina Amiri
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Patsy Pulitzer
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Indira Devi of Kapurthala
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you ... I have enjoyed investigating her and still learning more about her. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Very interesting article, thanks for writing it! —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:59, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you ... very happy that you took time to read it. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Great stuff
Many many thanks for the lead of Victoria Ivleva! No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ... thanks for creating it. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:35, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - August 2022
Ajpolino (talk) 21:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for John Jarvis-Smith
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK for Walter E. H. Cockle
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for E. Virgil Neal
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Truss
Good findings on the papers mentioning Truss. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Some of his colleagues refer to the 'Truss classification' named for him, but I can't explain it. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:03, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * He classified a group of "cycle types". See S. Lovell and J. K. Truss, "Cycle-types in the automorphism groups of countable homogeneous graphs", Math. Proc. Camb. Philos. Soc., 151, 23-41, 2011 and here for cycle types. I think it is a classification he did, but not a "Truss Classification" that is widely known in mathematics. If you search for it, you mostly get types of trusses for bridges. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please link the other source that you mentioned. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:32, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * May be and Permutation groups were previously considered finite by the Mathematics subject classification, until 1980. (background). See also . Whispyhistory (talk) 11:03, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I don't see where it is said he proved they weren't. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

AOB

 * Might make a good article. Already has a few lines in Saatchi & Saatchi. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WIll keep in mind. The postbox looks good. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Douglas Chandor
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Random

 * Come on horse. Anyone who is anyone goes everywhere by horse. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:35, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay... help here please! Whispyhistory (talk) 14:17, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I had images to upload. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Look good and very important. Images really help articles and sometimes there are not enough of them. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Me with my backlog of reading material. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:10, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Where will you use that? Can I kindly ask you to fix my recent uploaded image on commons please? Whispyhistory (talk) 07:25, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It's in use at Evening Standard. Will look. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you... It looks great. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You should have uploaded it to Wikipedia as a non-free (still in copyright) fair use image. It's not eligible for Commons as it is still in copyright as previously mentioned. I have uploaded it to Wikipedia. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:41, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Bhicoo Batlivala
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

MeetUp 11 Sept 2022 Janosabel (talk) 19:59, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ...You are welcome on my talk page any time Whispyhistory (talk) 05:15, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this reassurance. When I try to do more than just use Wikipedia for reference everything is complicated. Right now I would like to reactivate the the UBI project. Janosabel (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Your DYK userboxes
Hi, your userpage now has more than 400 instances of, the right-hand column is now much longer than the rest of the page. So, I've created User:Whispyhistory/Userboxes DYK and copied all of those userboxes there, it displays as several columns in most browsers. I intend to remove these from your main user page, which will create a lot more width for all of the other stuff. I shall replace them with one of these: Which of these four would you like me to use? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 15:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you ... I trust your judgment. I had never counted them so thanks for the statistics. Any suggestions for the "other stuff"? Truly grateful, please go ahead and change whatever you feel. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I went with the third one. You'll need to update the counter in whenever you add an entry to User:Whispyhistory/Userboxes DYK. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks much clearer.. thank you again. I'll try and tidy the main user page a bit. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Tann
What's the source for the first African American fashion designer to open his own shop on New York City's Seventh Avenue? The article by Julie Cirelli-Heurichy only says he opened his first shop in Manhattan in the late 1950s? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:21, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * From here... J. Wesley Tann, Jr. (known to many as simply Wesley Tann) fine tuned his fashion skills early on working for some of New York’s most renowned designers. He would eventually become the first African American designer to open his own shop on 7th Avenue in New York City. Also... do you understand this story? 15:03, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Whispyhistory (talk) 15:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not the source used for that claim in the article. The claim may be correct but I don't think 383 Design Studio is a reliable source. It's very recent and probably adapted from somewhere else. Where? The 1963 press cutting in the piece says he has been going for three years and gives a different address. I think the claim should be removed from the article for the time being. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:20, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks, will go over again. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:18, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A fictional dressmaker is refused service in the French army as he is too effeminate and unhealthy. He returns to his work and makes a sari-inspired dress that so impresses the unfaithful husband of the buyer that he returns to her. As a gift to her he sends three ambulances to the front to help with the French war effort against the Germans, so the dress performs a patriotic function even if its maker cannot. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:28, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting, do you know how to see the movie? Does that make the hook correct? Whispyhistory (talk) 04:18, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have discovered a little-known website where you can look things up called Nogglle or something like that. It's available here, and apparently on eBay etc too, but they do ask for a donation. Five-minute excerpts are available to view for free in various places. Also, try this search which shows the actual dress. The image is out of copyright. And we have an article. Which hook? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:29, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes.. that is the dress I was looking for... but there are 2 (Hamilton's and Hicks)?? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:16, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the black one is the Peggy Hamilton designed dress and the one with the diagonal stripe is the sari-inspired dress made by the Hickson company in pastel colours with the bustle, although there is no full-length picture or good quality picture. If you watch the full film you might be able to capture an image. It's not in the excerpts I have seen. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:04, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * As I read it the black evening dress by Hamilton was not sari-inspired. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Your right... even though it looks like one. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:18, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The bustle was very important apparently, it was all they could think about. Do saris have bustles or don't Indian women need one? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I do not know for sure but the outfits in the book of Maharanis does not appear to have any? Are you able to check hook? The Destiny Gown is an interesting story. Thanks for the synopsis. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

September music
Thank you for nice reviewing! - music to explore - the new Casals Forum for chamber music is just wonderful. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, my favourite flower. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Taking the lift
Are you sure about that bit about not being able to take the lift? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:02, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * yes.... in later years they let him. A person in that building sketched his portrait that day... I have a photo of it, but I guess I can't use it.Whispyhistory (talk) 13:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Who refused him entry to the lift? I can relate to the enormous interview panel for an entry position (I got the job too). I guess they were bored with their proper jobs. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * reception, reworded it a bit Whispyhistory (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * And he just accepted it? What would they have done if he had ignored them? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't find it hard to believe. Please re-read it again later, just going through it again. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, based on the Bristol Bus Boycott, neither do I, but be careful of anecdotes from autobiographies without any third party confirmation. I like the number of interviewers better as a story than the lift. BTW, what stopped him from taking the stairs to the first floor and getting on the lift there? Philafrenzy (talk) 16:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I've written who said what to who and where.... you can reword anything. As always, very grateful for your input. I will try and find someone who gives the story but unlikely to be one. Pallen's excellent book gives the story in much more detail. Regarding first floor, even I didn't think of that. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You might have done by the time you had reached the tenth. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe... probably fear of disobeying rules. If I take a photo of a stained glass, can I use it?Whispyhistory (talk) 18:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It is the same as any other two-dimensional work of art like a painting. How old? Creator dead? How long dead? Philafrenzy (talk) 18:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This one RAF past and present. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * How old is it? Philafrenzy (talk) 18:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2008 Whispyhistory (talk) 19:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * IDK. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If only there was a clue in the page, like a year or the inclusion of a Harrier jet. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll find out Whispyhistory (talk) 19:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Have you tried reading the page? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This feels like a viva... I will read, investigate and get back. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Good. I have been mollycoddling you. Have you dined at the RAF club or the Victory Services Club? (very cheap membership of the later). Philafrenzy (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * many times Whispyhistory (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you wear your medals? Philafrenzy (talk) 20:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No.... Is there a way of getting an image here please? Whispyhistory (talk) 06:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the Queen's image, looks good, and read the article that needed reading... understood. Might check out the bus conductor. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:23, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - October 2022
Ajpolino (talk) 03:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for R. H. Rodgers
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Surinder Singh Bakhshi
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:44, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Wesley Tann
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Hermann Marx
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Sari-inspired dress
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Fashion Barnstar

 * Thank you ... how kind of you. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:14, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for George Douglas Gray
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Sydney Domville Rowland
Valereee (talk) 12:02, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Hickson Inc.
Valereee (talk) 12:02, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Great work this year

 * Thank you kindly. FYI... I have seen a stamp now. should I have a separate page for barnstars ? Whispyhistory (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Re-read ... like "knowledge over ignorance". Whispyhistory (talk) 21:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You can if you like. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:21, 25 October 2022 (UTC)