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Has anybody written about PC-Addicts in a magazine or newspaper? If so, you can use those articles as references to show that PC-Addicts is notable by Wikipedia standards. -- Eastmain (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of The Haggis Horns
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 * Project News
 * Welcome to the nineteenth WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter.
 * Welcome to the nineteenth WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter.


 * WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 7,532 last month to 7,738 on October 30th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 43 out of a total number of 2.034 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 52 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 47.

If you would like to discuss changes to Priorities, please join in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire

Currently there are seventeen Yorkshire featured articles:

Henry Moore • Caedmon • Sheffield Wednesday F.C. • George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore • History of Sheffield • York City F.C. • Joseph Priestley • Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C. • M62 motorway • Valley Parade • William Wilberforce • History of Bradford City A.F.C. • Last of the Summer Wine • Ealdred (archbishop) • Paulinus of York • Wilfrid • Cosmo Gordon Lang

There are also ten featured lists:

List of York City F.C. Clubmen of the Year • List of York City F.C. managers • List of York City F.C. players • List of York City F.C. seasons • List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons • List of York City F.C. records and statistics • List of Leeds United A.F.C. seasons • List of Scarborough F.C. seasons • List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys • List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland

Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.

Drax Power Station passed a GA review on October 5th Thomas of Bayeux peer review initiated on October 8th Sheffield was demoted from FA on October 9th Anne Brontë failed a GA review on October 10th East Riding of Yorkshire peer review initiated on October 23rd Leeds peer review initiated on October 25th David Wetherall passed a GA review on October 26th County Borough of Leeds nominated for GA review on October 26th Philip Larkin peer review initiated on October 27th County Borough of Leeds promoted to GA on October 30th
 * Article Activity


 * Member News

There are now 70 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the October newsletter:



No members left the project this month:


 * Thanks


 * For those of you who made changes and looked after the school and university articles after last month's feature.


 * There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.


 * The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.


 * WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.


 * A big to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.


 * Priority Articles

The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -


 * Bradford • East Riding of Yorkshire • Henry Moore • Kingston upon Hull • Leeds • North Yorkshire • Ripon • Sheffield • South Yorkshire • Wakefield • West Yorkshire • William Wilberforce • York • Yorkshire • Yorkshire and the Humber

The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.

Assess and review
 * Assessment


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 * Aims

After discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire in April 2008.

Specific aims for the project are:-


 * To complete tagging and assessment of all Yorkshire related articles (See below)
 * To recruit more active editors (See Member News)
 * To bring our top level article Yorkshire up to Featured article status
 * To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
 * To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
 * To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members


 * Popular pages

Arctic Monkeys fight it out with Dracula
The addition of the popular pages facility to the Yorkshire sidebar last month has thrown light on which of our articles Wikipedia readers actually access most. The first month for which there is complete data is September when Arctic Monkeys were in pole position with an average 6,869 hits daily. In second place with 5,781 was Wuthering Heights followed by Dracula with 4,996. The table is sortable on a number of attributes but the sort takes a while to complete.

As the page has a link to current data it is possible to see and compare current raw data for daily hits. So far the October statistics (up to October 20th) reveal that Dracula with 5,474 daily hits is well ahead of seasonal favourite Guy Fawkes with 4,411, and last month's favourite, Arctic Monkeys, are pushed into third position with a daily hit score of 4,259.

Three football clubs Leeds United A.F.C., Hull City A.F.C. and Middlesbrough F.C.get into the top 25 along with several pages about literary topics such as the Brontë family and their works. Television personalities are well represented, Jeremy Clarkson (4,559) is 4th overall in the list and Judi Dench is 23rd with a hit score of 1,577. Do the history topics in the top 25 suggest homework assignments?

It will be interesting to monitor the rise and fall of pages on the list which will also suggest where our efforts as a project might best be directed for maximum impact.


 * Please remember...

The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on September 4th.

Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible. Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
 * Monitor
 * Infoboxes

Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
 * References

Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
 * Moves


 * Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...



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Thank you
Hi Yndajas,

Thank you for raising the issue that you did on WT:MOS and for reminding those of us who are editors of the enormous responsibility we have. -- Marie Paradox (talk &#124; contribs) 03:34, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Marie - is it something you'd like to weigh in on? There doesn't seem to be much support for addressing the issue of deadnaming on that talk page. Yndajas (talk) 03:44, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You are welcome.
 * The short answer to your question is that, yes, I would like to weigh in. The long answer is that I am not sure how to do so effectively. At the moment it seems that the people at WT:MOS feel that this is a matter better discussed at WT:BLP. I am already following WT:BLP, so I can watch the discussion and weigh in if I feel I have something to contribute. But you might first want to take a look at Policies and guidelines and How to contribute to Wikipedia guidance to get an idea of how policies and guidelines are created and changed.
 * You are right in saying that a trans person's name refers to them at all previous moments in their life, and you are right in saying that calling trans people by their previous names is harmful. But having seen how long it took MOS:IDENTITY to become policy, I do not believe this is something that can be changed overnight. -- Marie Paradox (talk &#124; contribs) 04:28, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

BLP
Seriously, it's a WT:BLP or WT:V or WP:VPPOL matter. Continuing the thread at WT:MOS will do nothing useful. We are not going to change what MoS says about this unless the sourcing policies change to permit us to alter a historical name to a new one despite it not appearing in the sources cited. This is not a new idea. There was half a year of argumentation about this a WP:VPPOL: The MoS material has been pushed into the shape it is in through levels of community discussion and re-discussion and re-re-discussion. Any further change to how we deal with TG subjects can only be done at the policy level, not in the MoS guideline. To be frank, the odds of it happening are about 1%. If you actually read though all those discussions, you'll see why: virtually no one supports the idea of retroactively changing names that did not apply at the time of the event being sourced and that do not match what the sources say. I.e., it is never going happen that our article Athletics at the 1976 Summer Olympics will contain the name Kaitlyn Jenner as the winner of a men's decathlon gold medal.
 * Village pump (policy)/Archive 120
 * Village pump (policy)/Archive_121
 * Village pump (policy)/Archive 123

The change you want to see has already been rejected by a very broad consensus, three times in a row. But you can try. WT:MOS just isn't the place for it.

I would advise, however, that if you make an attempt at this that you avoid getting into antagonistic bickering matches and straw manning those who disagree with you. I do not believe for even half a second: a) that you are unaware that not everyone agrees with an extended definition of "violence" that includes mere words; b) that you are incapable of understanding that disagreeing with that definition doesn't equate to disagreeing that mental health issues are important; or c) that you are unaware that mischaracterizing people as dismissive of mental health concerns because they don't agree with an expanded definition of "violent" is dishonest, disruptive, and likely to result in a block or a topic ban if it persists.

Acceptance goes both ways. There's not a single person in any of these discussions who has demonized trans people, and you have to stop demonizing people who don't agree with your language usage or (more to the point) your desire to police theirs. It just will not end well. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:53, 29 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure how I can be seen to have demonised people, and I haven't said anyone in the thread I started demonised trans people (only someone in another thread, with good reason), just that the lines that are being taken (and some policy or interpretations of policy) are not good enough for respecting and safeguarding many trans people. I've simply met heavy resistance with explanations/counter-arguments informed by my deeply-embedded position within trans communities. Further, if someone is questioning a word used in a quote I provided, surely I have a right to justify the use of that word? I know "they started it" isn't a mature excuse for behaviours, but I was literally explaining the reasoning behind a quite widely-used contemporary definition of "violence". I understand not everyone likes that definition, but do I not have a right to justify/explain my and other people's perspective without being deemed antagonistic? I was told it was trivialising to include attacks on mental health under the scope of violence (which was the basis of what you have deemed to be a straw man), and here you dismiss such attacks as "mere words" - words are powerful things, and words can change (including end) people's lives. If it isn't dismissive of mental health to say actions that can affect mental health couldn't possibly be on a par with any level of physical violence, then I don't know what is. It came across to me as a kind of "sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me" viewpoint, and that needs to be challenged. I don't see how it's antagonistic, controversial or worthy of a ban to make the claims that mental health can be just as important at physical.


 * I understand Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style may not be the best place to discuss this, but this was where I was directed by the editor who revoked the original change and it is where I was met with heavy resistance. If the responses had simply redirected me without weighing in, I would've shifted the conversation elsewhere and wouldn't have needed to address the issues raised. You can call it bickering if you like, but I maintain that I was fairly consistently sticking to reasonable argumentation/explanation. I haven't demonised anyone - taking issue with people's arguments/logic/judgement is not demonisation. Offering reasons for disagreement - especially on matters that affect you and those around you in a deeply personal way - is surely a reasonable act? Offering well-reasoned response is what I continue to be drawn into doing here, it appears. Yndajas (talk) 13:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

As I mentioned, discretionary sanctions rules apply; labeling people "transphobic" because they disagree with you already puts you within the ambit of those sanctions. Please stop. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:08, 29 July 2018 (UTC)


 * And this is not what I've done in the slightest. I called out transphobia in an old thread where someone was characterising trans people as delusional, amongst other claims. Yndajas (talk) 13:20, 29 July 2018 (UTC)