Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 June 20

= June 20 =

No notifications for watched articles
I'm not receiving notifications for changes to a good number of articles I've watched. Is there a known issue? Cheers soibangla (talk) 01:24, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

FYI: I just clicked "edit" on a high-volume article that I had watched for notifications weeks ago, then closed the article without making changes, and immediately starting receiving notifications after not receiving them for many days. soibangla (talk) 01:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to email notifications? Help:Email notification says: "Once you miss the email for a particular page change or don't visit the page (or ignore the email), you will not receive any more emails for that page". Does that answer your question? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, emails. I rarely (if ever) fail to check the notifications, and it seems to me that if I fail to check them just once that it shouldn't stop the notifications forever. It might be nice if the "sensitivity" of that setting could be adjusted, such that if an editor doesn't check the notification, say, five times, then it gets turned off. Cheers. soibangla (talk) 17:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Laird
I have  accidently  deleted the  opening  section of this  page -  I was trying  to  alter the  box. please fix up. Sorry175.33.198.186 (talk) 01:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, it has been fixed by - see here . You could visit Help:Editing for more info on how to edit in Wikipedia.Thank you for informing and have a good day.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * FYI: Anonymous IP's don't receive pings (WP:PING). Thinker78 (talk) 01:31, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Greetings, thanks for informing and I did know that for I have sent a talk back to the IP editor after my message above - see here . Cheers.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

How to remove interlinks from the table?
Hi.

I need some help with Wikipedia editing.

I was removing interlinks of pages that does not exist on Wikipedia. However, on this page List of companies of Russia, there is a table where I am finding it difficult to find the option of removing the links. For example, for number 14 in the table, it takes on the option of editing the table which is complicated. However, I was able to remove some links where companies did not have the russian link in front of the their name in the table.

Need some help doing this.

Thanks, Motivatedjack (talk) 05:18, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, You need use "source edit mode" to remove the link. I have removed the wiki links on subjects without articles in Wikipedia. Please see the here on what I have done. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:37, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thanks a lot for your response. I analyzed the thing you did and I got it. Motivatedjack (talk) 08:18, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi! Be sure to try to follow the red link guideline where applicable. The list itself has an article-first restriction so I understand why you are removing links from the list. Although I have to mention that the restriction notice is somewhat wrong because in order for something to be notable it does not mean that it has an article in Wikipedia. That's why many articles are created in a daily basis in the first place, because they are notable and there is no article about the subject. If you want to go through the trouble you could try to find reliable sources establishing notability of the red links and creating the articles. Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 03:53, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, I surely got your point. Reading this red link guideline i clearly understand now that not every red link is delete-able. I will surely try to find sources to see if I can create articles from the present red links. Thanks again for the guidance. Motivatedjack (talk) 08:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Not Neutral, and bullying...
--Greenpastures (talk) 05:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)Greenpastur--Greenpastures (talk) 05:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)es== Not Neutral, and bullying... ==

The article about Noah's Ark refers to it as a myth. This article is not neutral. I have contacted one of the writers. He insists on using the word "myth" instead of account. In our writings to each other, it seems he has a hostility towards those who hold a non-myth view. I asked him to change the wording, The Genesis flood Myth, to The Genesis flood account. He could also use the word, "story". This is in the second paragraph of the article. Others join in with him to bully. Please help with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Ark

Greenpastures — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenpastures (talk • contribs) 05:19, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia depends on reliable sources. There are none for the Noah's Ark story. HiLo48 (talk) 05:43, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The OP was blocked for edit-warring. After the block expired, they continued with the same behaviour. Including a rather odd edit summary which I've asked them to explain. Doug Weller  talk 07:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Good day. Almost all your edits since June 12 till todate are edits performed on Noah's Ark and Noah. You have been warned by admins, and  and you were blocked by another admin  on June 14, 2018 for edit warring. Information and explanations on why the edits were reverted (controversy's topics need consensus agreement from editor and content need to be supported by independent, reliable source have been posted on your talk page). To insist on claim that Noah's Ark as an event without support of reliable sources is not written in a neutral point of view and in no incidents any bullying were made by any of the editors who reverted your edits. Do note, even if the event is true and you have witnessed it yourself (that would be consider primary source), without any independent, reliable source (secondary source), it is still impermissible to entry the content  - please see But it's true!. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * In addition to all of the above, the help desk is not part of the dispute resolution process, so posting here will not help you. Please use the dispute resolution process. See WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 17:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

It seems you did not read my response to Ian on my talk page. I explained his errors in his personal writing to me. He never responded. Did you read it? The source for the Noah's Ark "myth" that is referred to is the Bible. The source is the Bible. That is understood. In my understanding, changing the non-neutral word "myth" to account does not change the information from his source. Isn't this allowable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenpastures (talk • contribs) 03:25, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I did not respond because you completely missed the point of what I explained and what others have tried to explain to you. Maybe if you tried paying attention to what others say things would be easier for you.  Also, go read WP:GEVAL and actually look at the citations in the Noah's Ark article until you see the problems with everything you've been saying. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:37, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

The help desk is not part of the dispute resolution process, so posting here will not help you. Please use the dispute resolution process. See WP:DISPUTE. Further comments here will be deleted.-Arch dude (talk) 03:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit a page with latest information.
Dear Sir/madam,

I am writing from Bhutan and wikipedia maintains a page dedicated to My football Club, Transport United FC from Bhutan. The page still contains old data and have not been edited. I would like to update this page. How do I do it?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.103.143.44 (talk) 15:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP user from Bhutan. Anybody may edit most articles in Wikipedia, so you can edit the article diretly. However, there are some requirements if you want your edits to be kept - most importantly, any information you add must come from a reliable published source. (Doesn't have to be on the Internet, and doesn't have to be in English, as long as a reader can in principle get hold of it and verify the information you have added.) If you are uncertain about doing this, make an entry on the talk page Talk:Transport United F.C., saying exactly what changes you think would be good (with citation of sources if possible). If you add edit request (with the double curly brackets) somebody will see that request and probably make the changes. --ColinFine (talk) 16:13, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Monster High: Boo York, Boo York
Hi, 3 editors who are most likely sock puppets insist on adding a big lump of content that makes the article a 95% copy of the Monster High wikia article on the film. Ive tried removing it as a copyvio but is copying from wikia a copyvio? they did first leave refs to wikia which is not allowed and no other attribution. Please advise, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 16:23, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikia cannot be used as a reliable source (see WP:RS) so the "facts" in that material are unsourced and may be removed, but not because of copyright. Wikipedia articles are (apparently) under a compatible license, so we could use the material without copyright violation if we attribute the source, but this point is moot because we cannot not use the material in the first place unless it references reliable sources for each fact. Put the attribution to Wikia back in as long as the material is still there, and then figure out what to do using a discussion on the talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I just checked the article. It has no reliable sources to establish notability (see WP:NFILM) and should be nominated for deletion (WP:AFD) unless its notability is established. However, as an involved editor you should first attempt to provide sources to establish notability, and nominate only if you cannot find them. Please continue this on the article's talk page, and if you cannot achieve consensus, follow the dispute resolution process. This help desk is not part of that process. See WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I've tagged the plot section for WP:FILMPLOT as the section is excessively long, 933 words. It really needs to be rewritten to a shorter summary 400-700. If the wikia version is a copyright violation, like copied from someone else's summary on the Internet or book review, then remove it. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice, agree about the plot but regarding the notability it seems more likely to rest on the soundtrack which charted and is part of the article but the wikia content is certainly problematic and ill check it again tomorrow to see if its come from elsewhere, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:46, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

has placed a CSD G12 speedy deletion tag on it. Is that appropriate for this article? Can't we just WP:TNT the summary? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:02, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * , Good day. CSD tag would be removed by admin after an assessment if admin deems it is appropriate. thank you.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 01:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have rewritten the summary with my own wording https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monster_High%3A_Boo_York%2C_Boo_York&type=revision&diff=846806278&oldid=846801324 so I don't understand why you are templating me WP:DTR with an earnest attempt to cancel the CSD. Per the CSD notice, "If this article does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice, but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself. " (my emphasis in bold). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * , Ok then since you have reworked on the copyvio plot section. Action as you deem fit.  Thank you. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 01:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

John D. Lee
In the article about John D. Lee, the photo atrributed to be Lonely Dell Ranch is in fact a building built after my GGG Gpa Lee died. It was a military fort. The ranch is about a mile away from it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.79.106.197 (talk) 22:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello anonymous editor. Can you please tell us exactly which article and which picture you're talking about?  There is no Lonely Dell picture on either of our John D. Lee or Lee's Ferry and Lonely Dell Ranch articles.  The picture of Lee's Ferry Fort is labelled as such.  Rojomoke (talk) 03:23, 21 June 2018 (UTC)