User:Thinker78

Thinker78 is a user, since late 2015, of a mesopedian editor of Wikipedia who started editing anonymously when the project came out in 2001. His first account was User:WonderingAngel-aesc78, but sadly he didn't continue editing with it and has since lost the password. He believes in doing an excellent job, fairness, rational and honest debate, admitting mistakes, and the necessity of giving explanations for one's actions. He doesn't like argumentum ad verecundiam, abuse of authority, nor undue censorship.

Among other things, he is an investigator, a translator, a former union official, an empath, a syncretist veg'n, and a free thinking skeptic. In college he was one of the top students in classes of Logic, Math, and Statistics. At one of his jobs, he was one of the best among 1,000 employees and top of his division. Since he was a kid he has felt passion for the written word and its analysis. Sometimes in his life outside of Wikipedia he gets threats of torture or death for unknown reasons. Maybe he tries to be too insightful, open-minded, and vocal for his own good.

NPOV and objectivity


Due to Thinker78's trying to be impartial and unbiased in his analysis and editing, sometimes editors tend to accuse him ironically of being partial and biased, more specially in controversial topics. This is because he tries to think and analyze independently, questioning what he thinks needs to be questioned and playing the Devil's advocate.

This, without trying to adopt, or make exception to his skepticism, the majority's position only because it is the majority's or popular position. This is not to say he won't adopt the majority or minority position if he thinks it is the proper thing to do based on logic and Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. These two latter for some reason in his opinion seem to be often ignored in favor of a single page's status quo or editors' personal opinions.

Regular actions
Check daily:


 * 1) change online and mood statuses
 * 2) reset checklist
 * 3) watchlist
 * 4) tasks working on
 * 5) pending consensus
 * 6) pending other action
 * 7) planned tasks
 * 8) updated edits and bar
 * 9) change biweekly in the calends and ides (last, 17 March 2024; next, 1 April 2024).

Tasks in process
These are some tasks I am currently working on, but not necessarily include all. Try adding no more than 3-5 at a time to avoid a long list.

Discussions and RFC
In requests for comments, be concise, understandable, and provide option A and B if applicable. Before ending it, post about the consensus you think was reached, maybe pinging all editors who contributed. Follow "Pending consensus" procedure.


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Categories for Discussion

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Other

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Discussions and RFC

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Other

 * Revert conspiracy theory revert. 22 Oct 2023

Pending

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Pending consensus
Implement changes after 7 days if there is consensus. After 7 days, if there is no editors' input in the relevant talk page thread and no sign of opposition to my latest entry, post a notice that change will be implemented in 7 days, per WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS. But remember, per WP:TALKDONTREVERT, "Consensus cannot always be assumed simply because editors stop responding to talk page discussions in which they have already participated."


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Pending other action
Tasks to do pending other action.


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Planned tasks
If you are a visitor in my profile page, you are most than welcome performing these tasks.

2019-2021

 * Add section of the effects of United States foreign aid


 * Work on all the lists of English and Spanish language newspapers (long term project) 03:36, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Make table at List of newspapers in Mexico 16:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Take picture of asentamiento in Guatemala
 * Merge Universidad Santo Tomás de Aquino and Universidad Autónoma de Santo Domingo 01:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Discuss rule change to allow administrator, arbitrator, Wikimedia and similar elections canvassing and recommendation of candidates 13:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Guatemala City twin cities 18:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

January to June 2022

 * Request inclusion of Wikiprojects in welcome templates to have more specialized support from new editors. 19:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Add persecution section to article Jainism. 17:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

July - December 2022

 * Open thread in relevant talk page to discuss adding guideline or information page advising that articles about politicians should have certain sections and information. 15:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Discuss in relevant venue whether Closing discussions applies also to regular talk page discussions, per closure challenge. 00:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Cerebellum.17:14, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Open a discussion in relevant talk page about process of closing regular talk page discussions. 23:16, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Add example for MOS:PRONPLACEMENT 15:35, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Work on article Yin and yang 19:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Sample size determination 20 Sep 2022
 * Addition of info of calls to regulate safety of masks and regarding titanium dioxide 30 Sep 2022


 * Analyze if there is correlation between COI edit request length and time in queue. 9 Nov 2022
 * Ask about adding info about Elliot interview in Roosevelt. 29 Nov 2022


 * Help modify Guatemalan laws about copyright, including adding freedom of panorama . 12 Dec 2022

January - June 2023

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July - December 2023

 * Work on the lead of Jorge Carpio Nicolle - 9 July 2023
 * Fabrikator request - 15 July 2023
 * Work on the first paragraph of Circassia - 16 July 2023
 * Populate Category:Medieval assassinated people with politicians by century. - 17 July 2023
 * Talk:Russia#Removal of maps - 29 July 2023
 * Talk:France - 11 July 2023. Create RFC on the relevant infobox talk page.
 * Bring Jorge Ubico to Good Article class. 14 Sep 2023
 * Help talk:Category
 * Analyze and make practice close of Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout/Archive 12 April 2, 2023
 * Tezcatlipoca - Correct old-style in-text citations so they link to the relevant reference. 9 Feb 2023
 * Silvia Valdés.
 * ✅ Add latest info 5 August 2022 (UTC) 12 Aug 2022
 * Add neutral info like personal life, awards, achievements, etc. 12 Aug 2022
 * Add positive info to balance. 12 Aug 2022
 * Follow up on Talk:Europe. 30 Aug 2023
 * Draft:MOS:LEADLENGTH table modification. 17:45, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Make statistical analysis using whatamidoing data.Make statistical analysis of articles per types. 19:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Make statistical analysis with relevant formulas to develop another lead size table.
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps 14 May 2023
 * Work on Egor Burkin - 7 Dec 2023
 * Marlene Raquel Blanco Lapola first woman chief of police in Guatemala - 20 Dec 2023

January - June 2024

 * Create article about executions of Burrows and Tacklyn (killers of Richard Sharples) last ones worldwide under British rule. 19 January 2024
 * Follow up on ip's NPOV: Guardianship of article and censorship of talk page - 25 Jan 2024
 * Work on modifying Non-defining characteristics. 27 Jan 2024
 * Publish in Village Pump ideas.
 * Use as general template the former 2007 guideline


 * Discuss WP:TRIVIALCAT's section on persons' deaths. 28 Jan 2023
 * The Hill: "Fauci met with Wuhan gain-of-function scientist in '17, admits lab leak not a conspiracy" - 22 Jan 2024
 * Find actual quote of what Fauci stated.
 * Add lead of years most important events. 20 Mar 2024
 * Modify years lead template. 20 Mar 2024

Tasks done
These tasks only reflect some edits I planned on doing for later, which may be just a fraction of my total edits overall.

✅ Cleanup Ricardo Quiñónez Lemus Finished 16:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

✅ Comment in controversy of talk page of Rape in Islamic law

✅ Add info of danger of high dose of vitamin c 16:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC) Finished 19:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

✅ Customize my signature 16:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC) Finished by 19 June 2022 (UTC)

✅ Move draft by coi editor. 05:31, 14 October 2021 (UTC) Finished 03:45, 3 December 2021 (UTC) ✅ Work on MOS:LEADSENTENCE to fix cluttering in example. 18:04, 4 January 2022 (UTC) Finished 02:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC) reverted. Done2 16:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

✅ Work on lead sentence of Vaccination policy.17:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

✅ Discuss Donald Trump article paragraphs talk page section. 18:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC) ✅ Add page history to Marquisate of Villena redirect and check my original page creation. 17:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Finished 23 June 2022

✅ Add kb and words columns to table in MOS:LEADLENGTH (under the heading article length). 18:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Scheduled to implement on 27 June 2022. Done 27 June 2022.

✅ Challenge in the proper venue the closure by Specifico of the "Political legacies" thread in the talk page of Donald Trump. 17:00, 30 June 2022 (UTC) Done 1 July 2022

✅ Finish modifying instructions in How to copyedit page of the Guild. 21:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC) Implement on 2 July 2022. Done on 3 July 2022

✅ Contact administrator for advice regarding noticeboard "Political legacies" closure challenge.17:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC) Do on 6 July 2022. Done on 6 July 2022

✅ Work on lede of Nancy Pelosi. Done 8 July 2022

✅ Work on lead sentence of Nicholas I. 18:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC) Done 10 July 2022

Discuss birth issue on lede of Elizabeth II 18:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC) Not done 10 July 2022

✅ Check resolution of "Political legacies" closure challenge. 19:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC) Done 20 July 2022

✅ Discussion in thread titled, Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section 21 July 2022

✅ Analyze discussion about change in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section. 21:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC) Done 20:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

✅ Create page for Guatemala's Supreme Court President Silvia Valdés. 17:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Done 31 July 2022

✅ Copyedit first sentence of Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal.16:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC) Done 3 August 2022

✅ Work on lead of Haakon, Crown Prince of Norway, including reducing number of paragraphs. 21:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC) Done 5 August 2022

✅ Archive my talk page. 5 August 2022. Done 5 August 2022

(better focus on consensus). New page reviewer. 18:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC) 10 Aug 2022

✅ Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:MOS:LEADLENGTH table modification. 12 Aug 2022

✅ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia essays Proposal to change the scale 02:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC) Check activity of author, to post on talk page.

✅ Talk:Louis X of France 12 Aug 2022. Check RFC

✅ Removal of my rfc publicizing from noticeboard 15 Aug 2022

✅ Template talk:Leadcite comment 23 Aug 2022

(lack of time) Draft talk:Lauryn Evarts Bosstick 22 Aug 2022 (analyze notability)

✅ Talk:Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal#The current first sentence is irrelevant 13 Aug 2022 - 8 Sep 22

✅ Work on Marc Dutroux16:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC) - 14 Sep 2022

✅ Work on Manual of Style/Abbreviations 15 Sep 2022

(maybe not enough references) User:Thinker78/Pedro Perebal 12 Aug 2022 - 18 Sep 2022

✅ [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2021_Minar-e-Pakistan_mass_sexual_assault#RfC:_A_TikToker,_associates,_other_accused_constitute_'Public_figure'_or_not? RfC: A TikToker, associates, other accused constitute 'Public figure' or not?]

✅ How to create a numbered list without indent? 25 Oct 2022

✅ Suggest change in lead sentence of World War 1. 9 Nov 2022

✅ Appeal of removal of discussion 11 Nov 2022

✅ Talk:Tudor Dixon 19 Nov 2022 done 7 Dec 2022

✅ Copyedit first sentence Guatemalan Revolution 17 Nov 2022 done 29 Nov 2022

✅ Talk:World War I 17 Nov 2022 Done on 16 Dec 2022

✅ Talk:Rupert Sheldrake#Positions in institutions in lead should be modified 19 Nov 2022 Done 29 Dec 2022

✅ A MOS:ALTNAME subsection duplicates function of MOS:LEADLANG 5 Jan 2023 Done 8 Jan 2022

✅ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Revert 24 January 2023 (original) Implemented 10 February 2023
 * ✅ Seeking consensus to implement change in lead sentence WWII 2 Nov 2022. Ended in consensus against on 9 Jan 2023
 * Input requested in WikiProject Military history and WikiProject History. 21 Dec 2022
 * Posted RFC Done 1 Jan 2023

✅ Talk:Dependent territory#UN list of dependent territories 9 Feb 2023 - 16 Feb 2023

✅ Work on MOS:REDUNDANCY note. 14 Apr 2023 - 15 Apr 2023

✅ Achieving neutrality tweak 10 Nov 22 - 12 May 2023

✅ Categorize assassinated politicians by time. 25 Mar 2023 - 17 may 2023

✅ Excessive clutter of Gaddafi example 11 May 2023 - 22 May 2023

✅ Create the article Eunice Dwumfour. 22 Mar 2023 - 27 May 2023

✅ Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 27 17 May 2023 - 7 June 2023

✅ Follow up on revert at Talk:COVID-19 lab leak theory - 3 Aug 2023 - 8 Aug 2023

✅ Follow up on Wikipedia talk:Edit requests - 12 July 2023 - 9 Aug 2023

✅ Follow up on Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi references. 15 Aug 2023

✅ Discuss modifying the first sentence of Oxford English Dictionary - 15 June 2023 - 15 Aug 2023

✅ Close Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 381 25 Aug 2023

✅ Create the article Ana Catalina Soberanis. 2 May 2023 - 6 Sep 2023

✅ Add first women presidents to Category:Women's firsts - 17 Sep 2023 - 4 Oct 2023

✅ Create page for Guatemala's Supreme Court President Beatriz de León. 02:55, 1 Aug 2022 - 21 Dec 2023

Discussions

 * Talk:North Africa#RfC about the lead sentence (Closing dispute) - 17 Sep 2023

Categories for discussion
✅ Make map of Petén and its neighbors - 14 March 2024 - 15 March 2024
 * Opposed requests#Category:Assassinated politicians in North America to Category:Politicians assassinated in North America
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 27
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 27
 * Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 30#Assassinated American county and local politicians by time 19 June 2023
 * x century assassinated American politicians 19 June 2023
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 25
 * Category:1970s assassinated South American politicians
 * Category:1930s assassinated Costa Rican politicians
 * Category:1960s assassinated African politicians
 * Heads of state and government
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 19
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 25 - 20 Aug 2023
 * Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 20#Category:Assassinated heads of government - 20 Aug 2023
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 3 - 11 Nov 2023
 * Talk:World War I - 19 June 2023 - 16 December 2023
 * Politicians by cause of death
 * About merging Category:Killings of politicians - 30 Oct 2023
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 9 - 9 Nov 2023
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 11 - 11 Nov 2023
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 13 - 13 Nov 2023
 * Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 3#Category:Politicians' topics 3 Nov 2023
 * Category talk:Political families of the United States 3 Nov 2023
 * User talk:HouseBlaster - 6 December 2023
 * Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Category:20th-century assassinated Asian politicians - 25 Nov 2023
 * Category:20th-century assassinated politicians by continent - 25 Nov 2023
 * Category:Assassinated politicians in transcontinental Eurasia - 14 Dec 2023
 * Category:Assassinated politicians by method - 27 Jan 2024
 * Category:Assassinated politicians by political orientation - 29 Jan 2024

Page and talk

 * Footnote (pron is short of pronunciation)
 * Add if the reference is not going to be used elsewhere. If included and there is no such named reference an error will appear about an invoked ref not defined.
 * Wikitext citation:
 * or
 * To invoke the named footnote:
 * or
 * To invoke the named footnote:
 * To invoke the named footnote:


 * To link abridged in-line citation to full citation.
 * artículo interwiki link to Spanish Wikipedia
 * No indent in ordered list.
 * MediaWiki API result - to check the coding syntax of an edit summary (add numeric id of the edit in the address bar)
 * No indent in ordered list.
 * MediaWiki API result - to check the coding syntax of an edit summary (add numeric id of the edit in the address bar)
 * MediaWiki API result - to check the coding syntax of an edit summary (add numeric id of the edit in the address bar)

Talk

 * (to restart indent in threads)
 * (to restart indent in threads)
 * (to restart indent in threads)
 * (to restart indent in threads)

Categories

 * Adds bar in a category page to facilitate navigation.
 * Adds template to category page stating it's a non-difussing subcategory.
 * Adds template notifying it should only contain subcategories.
 * Adds template notifying it should only contain subcategories.
 * Adds template notifying it should only contain subcategories.

More templates

 * Pictogram_voting_comment.svg Pictogram voting comment.svg
 * Various icons
 * Pictogram_voting_comment.svg Pictogram voting comment.svg
 * Various icons
 * Pictogram_voting_comment.svg Pictogram voting comment.svg
 * Various icons
 * Various icons

Wikilinks

 * Permanent link:
 * For
 * For

Issues and discussions

 * Article examples
 * Featured articles


 * Overly long first sentence
 * Talk:Mahatma Gandhi#First sentence seems to be too long 25 March 2023

Opinion about administrators
Administrators are users who volunteer their time and who go beyond what a regular editor does. For that alone they deserve praise. But as any person imbued with authority, some administrators act in undesirable ways. For example, they may display the badge when there is absolutely no need to, specially when doing regular edits as any other editor. They may feel entitled to not be pointed out Wikipedia guidance by regular editors and may get annoyed, offended, or angered when an editor dares to do so, or worse if a regular editor dares to criticize them.

They may take unfair adverse actions against editors who they don't like or who criticized them or a fellow administrator, when the context permits it (like denying certain rights or permissions). And they may cover for each other just like police departments do. In some situations, even non-administrators may pile on editors who commit the sin of pointing out policies or guidelines to an administrator, like if they know it all, are above rules and can't make mistakes.

After all, administrators and the Wikipedia community are people too, and as people they have the same qualities and defects as society at large.

Consensus vs no consensus
Consensus in a discussion is the agreement or support of a proposal by at least a majority of participants who provided non-repeated reasonable arguments. This ideally reflecting objectively more weight of said arguments, which provides proper basis for a consensus decision.

No consensus occurs when there is an unclear balance in the weight of reasons regarding an action in a good faith discussion.

Good advice from an administrator
Sometimes, people just disagree. There is no one, singular Right® way, it is a matter of editorial preference. If you find that the majority disagree with you, you just accept it and move on. It doesn't matter that you disagree or why. Plenty of times I disagree with the consensus/majority, but it is just my life experience, my viewpoint, the way I learned to use the English language. Not everyone has the same background or preferences. Once it is clear that you are in the minority, it is best to just thank them for participating, and bow out. Everyone is on minority side of consensus from time to time.If I could offer some advice, it would be to work on being more concise. People are more willing to consider your perspective when you only use one or two paragraphs and keep it simple. Quoting policy or MOS doesn't really help; people like what they like. So present the before and after, and keep the "why I like this" down to a sentence or two, in plain English. Then they are more likely to read everything you wrote, rather than gloss over the extended reasoning and form an opinion prematurely. The point by point edits did you no favors. It is also more effective to say why your way is better, rather than focus on why the other way is wrong. Positivity often rules the day. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

The status quo sometimes is wrong
For a long time, years in fact, the page Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal had as status quo a first sentence that didn't reflect guidance of MOS:FIRST. It was more fit for the biographical page of Jimmy Savile and inappropriate for the article at hand because it didn't even mention the main topic, the scandal. When I changed it to follow the guideline, I was reverted. I posted in the talk page about my rationale but there was no input.

I proceeded to summon editors from the community at large in a Requests for comment, which had a lot of input. The immediate and final consensus agreed with me, that the page had an inappropriate first sentence.

I didn't do something important: seek consensus to officially end the discussion and implement the change. This is recommended to be done even if it's your own rfc and the consensus about the change seems evident. This reduces the risk of outrage and incivility.

The moral of the story is that sometimes the status quo needs to be challenged, but challenged properly.

First female governor in the Americas was from Guatemala
I learned that Beatriz de la Cueva was the first female governor in North America and all the Americas. She was born in Spain and was governor of the Captaincy General of Guatemala. Apparently, reading the List of first women governors and chief ministers, there was no other female governor in the Americas, for almost 400 years.

Arbitration principles

 * Casting aspersions
 * Wikipedia:Arbitration case undue administrator actions

Policies

 * WP:CIVILITY


 * WP:CONSENSUS
 * WP:CAUTIOUS

Guidelines

 * Talk page guidelines
 * WP:Disruptive editing

Enforced essays

 * Civil POV pushing


 * WP:BLUDGEON

Other essays

 * Catch Once and Leave
 * Status quo stonewalling

New words learned in Wikipedia
Betoken: To give evidence of. 21:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Bowdlerization or expurgation: Form of censorship that involves purging anything deemed noxious or offensive from an artistic work, or other type of writing or media. 22:04, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Guillemet: Pair of punctuation marks in the form of sideways double chevrons, « and », used as quotation marks in a number of languages. 22:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Grognard: Veteran and most prestigious elements of Napoleon's Imperial Guard and Army.

Metonymy: Figure of speech in which a concept is referred to by the name of something closely associated with it.

Mirabilia: Plural of mirabile. Marvels or wonders.

Synecdoche: Metonymy in which a term for a part of something is used to refer to the whole.

Gadfly:

Etymon: Earlier origin word of another one (plural: etyma).

Metathesis: Transposition of sounds or syllables in a word, or of words in a sentence.

Panegyric: Formal public speech or written verse, delivered in high praise.

Psychopomp: Entity believed to escort deceased souls to an afterlife. 8 Feb 2023

Argufy: To argue without any aim. 29 March 2023

Deracinate: Uproot people. 29 March 2023

Ides: Middle of the month in the Roman calendar. 26 April 2023

Therianthropy: Mythological capacity to shapeshift.

Special forums or talk entries
Talk pages, administrators' noticeboard, arbitration, other forum.


 * Challenging closure of Political legacies thread
 * User talk:Fastily#Only the negative 15 Aug 2023
 * User talk:David Eppstein - 10 Jan 2024
 * Wikipedia talk:Administrative action review - 15 Jan 2024
 * Talk:World War I - 19 June 2023 - 16 Dec 2023

Service progress
Update biweekly in the calends and ides (last updated 3 March 2024; next, 15 March 2024).

Articles created or translated

 * Miguel Aldana Ibarra
 * Marquisate of Villena (redirected)
 * Pedro Perebal (deleted)
 * Xocomil (weather) (redirected)
 * Álvaro Arzú Escobar 14:39, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Allan Rodríguez 05:23, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Silvia Valdés 18:06, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Mario Méndez Montenegro 17 February 2022
 * Eunice Dwumfour 27 May 2023
 * Roy McGann 30 May 2023
 * Ana Catalina Soberanis - 6 Sep 2023
 * Beatriz Ofelia de León - 21 Dec 2023

Guidance

 * Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section
 * Consensus

FA

 * Yasser Arafat

GA

 * Butterfly
 * Muammar Gaddafi

Others

 * Campylobacter
 * Parrots

Timekeeping

 * It took me almost 12 hours throughout a week to work 22 edits or 246 words of "readable prose size" of the article 1990s—on average, about 2 edits per hour, half an hour (0.5h) per edit (including research), or 20 words per hour, 3 minutes per word. 22 April 2022
 * It can take me 2 hours of analysis to reply to a talk page post.

Challenges
June 22, 2018: Transclusion. In Talk:Noah's Ark#Myth vs account or story controversy, it took me more than two and a half hours to figure out how to properly format it, given that initially text was just copied from the help desk to the talk page of Noah's Ark. Initially I was just looking at which way was more proper to indicate that text was "moved". I thought about hatnotes, but I spent a long time analyzing the guideline to see if it was proper use. I figured out that I could use a transclusion hatnote. But soon I got embroiled in finding a way to indicate which text was actually moved, because a new discussion was started. I found out about boxes. But then I realized I would have to actually transclude the text. Which I finally managed to do, transcluding the text. Yay!

In memoriam
User:Ed, reportedly a 14 year-old editor with thousands of edits, founder of Esperanza, WikiProject International relations, WikiProject Lists. Inspiring!

Longest threads I have walked in

 * 1) Edit dif 1104699210 and its related RfC: A TikToker, associates, other accused constitute 'Public figure' or not? By User:Bookku. More than 14,500 words. Update: 1,800 more words! With User:USaamo in continuance of the saga! (15 Oct 22).
 * 2) A mountain out of molehill? By 45.136.197.235 and mention of Sideswipe9th and Softlemonades. Around 7,000 words.

Funny!

 * "Moose? A 'common household pest'. Really? All over the livingroom, are they?" Comment made by Anna Frodesiak (talk) on List of common household pests, on 26 January 2016 (UTC).
 * "Hello.! Im Lucas and im new here. I just wanted to know, how to contact sumerians, ive got few questions to them and was just wondering how you talk ti them." Anonymous IP. 01:49, 1 July 2023 (UTC). At User talk:Acroterion

Ignorance and murderous savagery
Contemporary accounts state Mongol soldiers looted and then destroyed mosques, palaces, libraries, and hospitals. Priceless books from Baghdad's thirty-six public libraries were torn apart, the looters using their leather covers as sandals. Grand buildings that had been the work of generations were burned to the ground. The House of Wisdom (the Grand Library of Baghdad), containing countless precious historical documents and books on subjects ranging from medicine to astronomy, was destroyed. Claims have been made that the Tigris ran red from the blood of the scientists and philosophers killed. Citizens attempted to flee, but were intercepted by Mongol soldiers who killed in abundance, sparing no one, not even children.