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Template:Native name

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The result of the discussion was Keep. It is clear that until Native_name_lang is added to Infobox country, the template can not be deleted. Ruslik_ Zero 16:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Native name

Redundant. Infobox settlement has a Native_name_lang parameter, which causes  attributes to be applied to the native name. The native name is now italicised by the infobox. We have Lang for other uses. We don't use flags for langauges. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:54, 16 December 2011 (UTC) 
 * Comment What about Infobox country, in which it is used much more? Styath (talk) 19:30, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * We should add Native_name_lang and the associated markup to that, too - all our templates should use the same formulation for the same parameter, for consistency, and ease of use and template-updating. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:37, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


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Template:Mycologist

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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 16:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Mycologist

Unused, purpose unclear Bulwersator (talk) 23:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC) 
 * Comment looks like some sort of inappropriate hatnote for mycologist articles that indicates their standard abbreviation as a hatnote, instead of in the text of the article or the infobox. 76.65.128.198 (talk) 06:18, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep; this, along with Template:Botanist has standard use by an entire project. Most of the articles on these individuals (for both templates) have no infobox, and are not likely to ever have one. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:51, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:47, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Why would they be unlikely to have an infobox? infobox biography is viable on all biographical articles. It seems like you could use the other_names parameter to show the standardized abbreviation. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 03:55, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Because (1) no one is likely to add them, (2) information worthy of using the infobox is scarce for these authors, (3) the abbreviation is the most important part for many of these individuals anyway. Why would you think the "other names" parameter is appropriate? That's for other forms of the name, not for the internationally standarized author abbreviations.  The abbreviation is the form of an author's name that follows the species name as part of a formal full scientific name.


 * Why was this template discussion never raised at the appropriate WikiProjects? --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:04, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The WikiProjects weren't tagged until I added them, so I infer that Bulwersator would not have known them. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 09:26, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-DPRKGov

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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-DPRKGov

This image licensing tag is seemingly un-used Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: That's because most things that are tagged with this are moved to Commons, where there is an identical license tag there. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 01:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:AustralianFilmInstituteAwardBestFilm 1978–1988

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * AustralianFilmInstituteAwardBestFilm 1978–1988
 * AustralianFilmInstituteAwardBestFilm 1988–1998
 * AustralianFilmInstituteAwardBestFilm 1998–2008

unused templates which have been superseded by others, like Template:Australian Film Institute Award for Best Film 1970–1989, ... Frietjes (talk) 15:22, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Parham

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The result of the discussion was keep. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:52, 31 December 2011‎ (UTC)
 * Parham

Navigation template with just two (2) links, including the place the template is working for. Typical case of WP:NENAN Night of the Big Wind  <sub style="color:maroon;">talk  14:30, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep For easy navigation of pages in Parham,Suffolk. Wilbysuffolk   Talk to me  17:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-USGov-pre1978stamp
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 16:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-USGov-pre1978stamp

This media licensing tag is seemingly unused, Images which would be licensed using this should probably be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons directly, making local use of this tag partially redundant. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:44, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep It is unused now, but only because all the images that used it were moved to Commons. Stamps prior to 1978 are PD, and this template helps to depopulate the over-used PD-USGov and at the same time distinguishes PD US stamps from later proprietary stamps. At one time there were a couple hundred older stamp images under PD-USGov, and given that most people who upload US government images never take the time to look for the most appropriate license, any means of breaking down that overused category should be embraced.--Monkeybait (talk) 17:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Annie
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The result of the discussion was Rename to Template:Annie (Norwegian singer). Ruslik_ Zero 14:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Annie

Used by main topic article Annie (Norwegian singer) and several articles (as well as two categories) proposed for merger and conversion into article Annie discography. Please see CFD entry for more information on cleanup rationale. — bllix (talk) 11:35, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment what a horrid name, at first glance, it should be about Little Orphan Annie. If this is kept, it should be renamed to match the main article, as Template:Annie (Norwegian singer) . 76.65.128.132 (talk) 11:52, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename Template:Annie to Template:Annie (Norwegian singer).  Snap Snap  18:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-PDphoto.org
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-PDphoto.org

Seemingly unused media licensing template, Images which would use this licensing tag should probably be uploaded directly to Wikimedia Commons, making use of this tag locally, partially redundant. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Harper's Encyclopedia of US History
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Harper's Encyclopedia of US History

This media licensing template is seemingly unused, Media which would have been licensed under this tag, should probably be uploaded directly on Commons making this tag, partially redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment this seems a bit weird, since it should be something like the EB1911 footnote template for text materiel used on articles? (Are there all that many pictures in encyclopedias from that era?) 76.65.128.132 (talk) 08:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-VietnamGov
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-VietnamGov

This template is seemingly unused locally. Images which would have been licensed under this template should probably be uploaded to Commons directly, making this tag partially redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PolishSenateCopyright
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PolishSenateCopyright

This image licensing tag is seemingly unused, Images using it should probably be uploaded directly to Wikimedia Commons, making this tag partially redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment is the revelation that these are covered by GFDL in a OTRS ticket or something? The template indicates it is on the talk page, but the talk page doesn't show any copied email correspondence. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 21:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I found it, it was on Commons, and copied from Polish Wikipedia. Commons:Template talk:PolishSenateCopyright. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 21:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Mary Rose Trust
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Mary Rose Trust

This image licensing tag is seemingly unused, Images which would have used this tag, should be being uploaded to Wikimedia Commons directly, making this tag partialy redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:06, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-Letters Patent
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-Letters Patent

This image licensing tag is seemingly unused, It is suggested that this template be split into a 'restriction' tag and the standard CrownCopyright tag, if it's not deleted. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:05, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no problem merging this template with CrownCopyright. It's certainly worth keeping. If the closer decides to delete, I request a move to my user space. Buffs (talk) 06:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-Japan-organization
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-Japan-organization

This image licensing tag is seemingly unused. Images that would have been uploaded under this tag, and which Commons criteria should be uploaded on that site, making this template partially redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:03, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-USGov-NCBI-PubChem
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-USGov-NCBI-PubChem

This image licensing tag is seemingly unused, Images which would have used this tag, should be being uploaded directly to Commons, making this template partially redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-USGov-Military-Army/layout
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-USGov-Military-Army/layout

This template appears to be a duplicate of it's parent page. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:PD-NYWT&S
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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:25, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * PD-NYWT&S

This image licensing tag is seemingly unused, Media using this should ideally be being uploaded directly to Commons, making this template partially redundant locally. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:56, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * 'Withdraw this nom only' - Already nominated on the 22nd. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:42, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Fir0002 400
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Fir0002 400

Specialised form of image licensing tag for a specific user, no media locally now uses this tag. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: A picture shot by the editor may end up on POTD; if it is uploaded locally for protection at the time, it would require the template. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:24, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Such uploading for protection no longer takes place, due to a bot now running on Commons. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:27, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * So images are now protected on commons? If so this can be deleted. At the time we were still using the procedure of copy and protect, and Fir had enough featured images for it to be justified. NativeForeigner Talk 05:05, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed they are. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * PD-USGov-DOC-NOAA-ESRL

Seemingly unused image licensing tag - Images with this tag should be being uploaded to Wikimedia Commons directly. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 16:18, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * PD-Estonia70

This image licensing template appears to be unused. Images which would have used it and qualify on Commons should be uploaded directly to Commons making this template partially redundant. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:45, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Quite frankly I've searched in the past in vain for appropriate country-specific templates such as this one for uploading images. Better organization and accessibility of copyright templates would greatly assist. Not everyone feels like dealing with both Commons and WP. P ЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 20:00, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, useful for those who do not have the inclination to deal with Commons. --Nug (talk) 04:45, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:39, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Round8-with seventh

Unused and completely redundant to Round8-with third. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  07:30, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Not sure why I created it. Intoronto1125 <b style="color:red; font-size:larger;">Talk</b> Contributions   15:32, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Round4-with third pool

Completely redundant to Round4-with third. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  07:29, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * JudoRepechage-2Rounds

Completely redundant to the more general Repechage-2Rounds. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  07:27, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Karate-Repechage

Redundant to the more general Repechage-1Round. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  07:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:11, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2010 Kelly Cup Playoffs

Orphaned and completely redundant to KellyCupPlayoffs2009-10. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  07:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:23, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Bracketvb8

Completely redundant to 8TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  07:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:4Team3RoundBracket
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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 09:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 4Team3RoundBracket

Completely redundant to PagePlayoffBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:4Team2Round
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 4Team2Round

Unused and completely redundant to 4TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:4RoundBracket-2xByes
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 4RoundBracket-2xByes

Unused and completely redundant to 4RoundBracket-Byes. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:52, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:16TeamBracket-Compact-Wrestling
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:55, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 16TeamBracket-Compact-Wrestling

Completely redundant to 16TeamBracket-Compact-Tennis3-Byes. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That tennis template has "seeds" column, unlike this one. so "not completely redundant". Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:45, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:32TeamBracket-Compact-Squash
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:54, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 32TeamBracket-Compact-Squash

Completely redundant to 32TeamBracket-Compact. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:39, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per my comments at Templates_for_discussion Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 13:08, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:16TeamBracket-Compact-Squash5
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 16TeamBracket-Compact-Squash5

Completely redundant to 16TeamBracket-Compact-Tennis5. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:38, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. I don't see the need to delete the template. Redundancy is not an issue here and now, as it is two years ago, the template currently being used for some of the articles i.e. 2008 Men's World Open Squash Championship for the Squash WikiProject, and there's a need for it. And to use a tennis template in a squash articles is not sensible in my belief, so there's a need to create a separate one. And it's not "completely redundant" as being stated. It contains differences here and there. Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 12:47, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8TeamBracket-Squash5
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8TeamBracket-Squash5

Completely redundant to 8TeamBracket-Tennis5. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per my comments at Templates_for_discussion Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 13:03, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8TeamBracket-Squash5-with third
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8TeamBracket-Squash5-with third

Completely redundant to 8TeamBracket-Tennis5-with third. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per my comments at Templates_for_discussion Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 13:08, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:32TeamBracket-Compact-Noseeds-Byes
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:40, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 32TeamBracket-Compact-Noseeds-Byes

Completely unused and redundant to 32TeamBracket-Compact-NoSeeds-Byes. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:35, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Is this the template used on the 1994–95 Rugby Football League season for one of the cup competitions? If not, then agree for deletion.Rimmer1993 (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It currently isn't used on any article. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  10:49, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8Team3Round
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8Team3Round

Unused and completely redundant to 8TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:29, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8Team2GroupBracket
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:34, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8Team2GroupBracket

Completely redundant to 8TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:28, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8TeamBracket-VTB United League Promo-Cup 2008
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8TeamBracket-VTB United League Promo-Cup 2008

Unused and essentially redundant to 8TeamBracket-with third. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:27, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8TeamBracket-European Trophy
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:39, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8TeamBracket-European Trophy

Completely redundant to 8TeamBracket-IIHF World Championship. Only used on one article. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:8TeamBracket-FIRS World Championship
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 8TeamBracket-FIRS World Championship

Completely redundant to 8TeamBracket-IIHF World Championship. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:2011LLWSBracket
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The result of the discussion was withdraw nomination. Didn't see the final was over one leg. (NAC) Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  10:52, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 2011LLWSBracket

Completely redundant to 8Team2ElimBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: It is the same as 8Team2ElimBracket, with the exception of the final round, in which 8Team2ElimBracket to my knowledge does not allow for the final round to be single-elimination. The LLWS tournament, under its current format, becomes single-elimination in that final round prior to the world championship. If 8Team2ElimBracket allowed the option to make the fifth round a single-elimination, I wouldn't have had to create 2011LLWSBracket. <b style="color:#b20032">Tampabay</b><b style="color:#003D7C">721</b> (<b style="color:#003D7C">talk</b>) 20:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:2RoundBracket-Byes
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The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:41, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2RoundBracket-Byes

Completely redundant to 4TeamBracket-Compact-NoSeeds-Byes. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  06:05, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: The template that has been indicated as making it "completely redundant" is compact. A slight change, maybe, but enough to maintain consistency and aesthetical pleasure (in my part, anyway) on the tennis pages I am creating/editing. If you have any trouble understanding the reasons for which I am created any a new template, then that may be your problem. The new template is different, it is in use and it is not hurting anyone, so if you don't like it, then just don't use it. Kapitan110295 (talk) 06:42, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:1995 RHI Murphy Cup bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete all.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1995 RHI Murphy Cup bracket

Unused and completely redundant to 16TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  05:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:1994 RHI Murphy Cup bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete all.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1994 RHI Murphy Cup bracket

Unused and completely redundant to 16TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  05:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:1996 RHI Murphy Cup bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete all.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1996 RHI Murphy Cup bracket

Unused and completely redundant to 8TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  05:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:1997 RHI Murphy Cup bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete all.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1997 RHI Murphy Cup bracket

Unused and completely redundant to 8TeamBracket. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  05:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:1993 RHI Murphy Cup bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete all.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1993 RHI Murphy Cup bracket

A tournament specific version of 8TeamBracket and totally redundant to it. Should be deleted after the template was substed. Armbrust Talk to me about my edits<sub style="color:#0892D0;">review  05:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed redundant. Substitute 8TeamBracket in and delete. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:51, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Florida Gators All-Century Football Team
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:25, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Florida Gators All-Century Football Team

This template is a list of Florida Gators college football players that was published by The Gainesville Sun newspaper on a single occasion in 1999. The "All-Century" list was generated by the newspaper as the result of a single non-scientific fan poll taken earlier that year. There was no objective criteria for inclusion&mdash;only voluntary fan votes submitted to the newspaper. As a result, the list suffers from "recentism," and is heavily and disproportionately weighted to Florida Gators football players from the 1990s. While all but a handful of the included football players are undoubtedly notable, the list itself is probably non-notable per WP:N and WP:NSPORTS, as there is only a single published source, The Gainesville Sun, to support its notability. A Google search reveals no online secondary sources that are not mirror sites of Wikipedia; a search of Google News Archive reveals no news articles other than the original Gainesville Sun article. The list has no official standing with the University of Florida, and it is not supported by a stand-alone Wikipedia article. This is a classic example of a one-time sports "honor" invented to sell newspapers. Delete as non-notable. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. College sports award navboxes generically ought to be reserved for top-tier national honors.  It's fine to detail this honor at Florida Gators football and mention it on the relevant biography articles, but the navbox is overkill.  This is not an honor that has defined its recipients to the point of necessitating navigation around it. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:47, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a good navbox. It's well within guidelines IMO24.49.162.84 (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. Uh, no, it is not "well within guidelines."  It fails 3 of the 4 specific navbox guidelines per WP:NAVBOX (as explained above), also fails to establish notability under the general guidelines per WP:N, and there is no presumption of notability under the more specific sports guidelines per WP:NSPORTS.  If this navbox is to be kept, the general notability guidelines must be satisfied, to wit:


 * 1. "'Significant coverage' means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content.  Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material.


 * 2. "'Reliable' means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline.  Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.


 * 3. "'Sources', for notability purposes, should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability.  The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally expected.  Sources are not required to be available online, and they are not required to be in English.  Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability.


 * 4. "'Independent of the subject' excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject or its creator. For example, self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, the subject's website, autobiographies, and press releases are not considered independent."


 * This navbox fails to satisfy general notability requirements Nos. 1, 2 and 3 because they require multiple significant, reliable secondary sources; there is only one source for this navbox, the original Gainesville Sun article from 1999. Furthermore, the template also fails notability requirement No. 4 because the only source is not independent of its subject&mdash;this "honor" was invented by the sole source.  In the absence of significant, meaningful coverage from other secondary sources, the subject of this navbox is not notable.  And, as mentioned above, this navbox also fails 3 of the 4 navbox guidelines.  Game over.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:34, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-disruptive4im
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The result of the discussion was delete.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Uw-disruptive4im

An editor started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace about the usefulness of this template, recently created, apparently without consensus. As I pointed out here, when disruptive editing becomes deliberate, there's not much of a difference between that and vandalism. That means the template could easily be superseded by uw-vandalism4im, and I've already edited the warning templates table to reflect that. Also, it is worth noting that there is no uw-disruptive4 template.  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 03:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete As the editor that started the discussion. Although created in good faith, this template is superfluous for the reasons indicated above because the wording of the template is not supported by the blocking policy. Pol430  talk to me 16:32, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.