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Template:Multi-channel network

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The result of the discussion was delete. No opposition. Primefac (talk) 00:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC) Delete as articles have no direct relation, as per WP:NAV. Category:Multi-channel networks and List of multi-channel networks already covers this. Alizaa2 (talk) 13:57, 15 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Multi-channel network

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Template:Cleaning companies

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 July 31. Primefac (talk) 00:42, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Cleaning companies
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Template:San Beda Red Cubs 2013-2014 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions

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The result of the discussion was relist to 31 July. Primefac (talk) 00:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC) HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Baby miss  fortune 05:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * San Beda Red Cubs 2013-2014 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions
 * Keep These templates are being used as records for their season/championship pages (Ranbill Tongco and Javee Mocon) Linsanity (talk) 22:42, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox cruft. junior squad templates have been deemed not notable in prior TfD threads. Frietjes (talk) 13:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:San Beda Red Cubs 2011-2012 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions

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The result of the discussion was relist to 31 July. Primefac (talk) 00:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC) HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Baby miss fortune 05:50, 15 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * San Beda Red Cubs 2011-2012 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions
 * Keep These templates are being used as records for their season/championship pages (Ranbill Tongco and Javee Mocon) Linsanity (talk) 22:42, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox cruft. junior squad templates have been deemed not notable in prior TfD threads. Frietjes (talk) 12:59, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:San Beda Red Cubs 2012-2013 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions

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The result of the discussion was relist to 31 July. Primefac (talk) 00:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC) HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Baby miss fortune 05:50, 15 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * San Beda Red Cubs 2012-2013 NCAA Junior Basketball Champions
 * Keep These templates are being used as records for their season/championship pages (Ranbill Tongco and Javee Mocon) Linsanity (talk) 22:42, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, junior squad templates have been deemed not-notable in prior TFD discussions. Frietjes (talk) 12:59, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:NCAA Season 92 juniors' volleyball match-up results
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The result of the discussion was relist to 31 July. Primefac (talk) 00:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC) HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Baby miss fortune 05:49, 15 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * NCAA Season 92 juniors' volleyball match-up results
 * Keep These templates are being used as records for their season pages (NCAA Season 92) ChavezPH (talk) 06:26, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * merge with NCAA Season 92 volleyball tournaments and use LST if needed in a second article or use a simple link to the parent article. also, the overuse of icons is very bad for WP:ACCESS. Frietjes (talk) 12:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:NCAA Season 92 juniors' basketball
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The result of the discussion was relist to 31 July. Primefac (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2017 (UTC) HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Baby miss fortune 05:48, 15 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * NCAA Season 92 juniors' basketball
 * Keep These templates are being used as records for their season pages (NCAA Season 92) ChavezPH (talk) 06:26, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * merge with NCAA Season 92 basketball tournaments and use LST if needed in a second article or use a simple link to the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 12:57, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:NCAA Season 91 juniors' basketball
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The result of the discussion was relist to 31 July. Primefac (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2017 (UTC) HS tournaments and awards are usually non-notable and not shown in articles. Baby miss fortune 05:48, 15 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * NCAA Season 91 juniors' basketball
 * Keep These templates are being used as records for their season pages (NCAA Season 91) ChavezPH (talk) 06:26, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * merge with NCAA Season 91 basketball tournaments and use LST if needed in a second article or use a simple link to the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 12:57, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Disputedguidelinetag
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC) Unused and redundant to disputedtag. KMF (talk) 20:36, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Disputedguideline
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Disputed tag. Primefac (talk) 00:42, 31 July 2017 (UTC) Unused and redundant to disputedtag. KMF (talk) 20:36, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Disputedguideline
 * Redirect to Template:Disputed tag. This redirect actually bears a more suitable title for that template: Disputed tag can easily be confused with the more widely used Disputed. – Uanfala 12:25, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Rolf Geese M65 World Record Score
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:48, 29 July 2017 (UTC) now merged with the article, so it's no longer needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:27, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Rolf Geese M65 World Record Score
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Template:Schools in Mueang Nakhon Ratchasima District
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC) unused, almost all redlinks Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Schools in Mueang Nakhon Ratchasima District
 * Delete Not enough links....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Fire and Rescue Department of Malaysia
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC) only used in one article, mostly unlinked plain text Frietjes (talk) 14:26, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Fire and Rescue Department of Malaysia
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:08, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Only two links, and fails EXISTING. KGirl  (Wanna chat?) 22:35, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, due to lack of links to notable articles. Ajf773 (talk) 01:19, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Hotels in Algeria
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 July 29. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Terr-FedRep
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:58, 29 July 2017 (UTC) Unused template. This is left over from the 2000s, when an attempt to navbox Canadian parliamentarians by province or territory went nowhere due to an inability to agree on the template design -- however, they're now navboxed by political party, with the result that all of the provincial templates were deprecated and deleted years ago. For some reason I can't quite suss out, however, this doesn't seem to have been deleted with them, but has just lingered unused. (And if you want proof of how unused it is, the MPs line hasn't been correct for two full elections now.) Bearcat (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Full Frontal with Samantha Bee
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The result of the discussion was move to Template:Samantha Bee Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:56, 29 July 2017 (UTC) Only two useful links. Host should not be included per WP:PERFNAV and the "related" shows are tangential at best. Rob Sinden (talk) 12:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Full Frontal with Samantha Bee
 * Note: a WP:3O is open about this template's content (which could potentially have, and in some revisions does have, more links) and about the template's relationship to the Samantha Bee article, and the relationship of both to Category:Full Frontal with Samantha Bee. Comments on this TfD might be best deferred until after the 3O is completed, hopefully today.  I'm awaiting responses from the two disputators (or whatever real word belongs there) that the questions to address are correctly identified.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  20:08, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Done . I ended up needing to do both 1) a nearly top-to-bottom analysis of wording problems (conflicts, inconsistencies, confusions, unintended consequences, and likely intent) in WP:PERFCAT, WP:PERFNAV, and WP:FILMNAV; and 2) a cat.-by-cat., article-by-article review of the de facto consensus on how to handle talk/variety shows and presenters who are integrally associated in the public mind with certain of them.  I hope this will be used to improve the guidelines' wording and help prevent many future flamey editwars like the one that preceded this TfD and the 3O.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  11:08, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Template is utterly essential for navigation. As mentioned in the note above me - the template had several links, which the user requesting to delete this template removed without reaching consensus. For comparison, please see Template:Last Week Tonight. TonyIsTheWoman (talk) 04:09, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, but make it a combined bio/show navbox. This should be done the same way as Template:Howard Stern Show. It's an exactly parallel case, will prevent any attempt to create two infoboxes, and will make the protracted, multi-page edit-war over this template, category, and articles evaporate as moot.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  11:09, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * This is a good idea. To make it a Samantha Bee template would address my concerns, and allow for inclusion of The Detour (TV series) which she also created, making it a much more useful navbox.  Thanks also for your lengthy WP:3O consideration.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:55, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * Rename Change it from "Full Frontal with Samantha Bee" to simply "Samantha Bee" - you would lose no content, but open the possibility to include much more information fairly quickly. -Gohst (talk) 10:35, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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