Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 18



Template:Municipalities in Tyrol

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 28. Primefac (talk) 15:02, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Municipalities_in_Tyrol
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Template:Manila Bulletin Publishing Corporation

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The result of the discussion was delete. Already deleted by -. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with mostly plaintext, not links.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Manila Bulletin Publishing Corporation
 * Delete - Unused. Category:Manila Bulletin is sufficient. Nigej (talk) 07:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Medellín Radio

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that is almost entirely WP:REDLINKS. WP:EXISTING is thus violated. No changes since 2016.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Medellín Radio
 * Delete - I've tried cleaning this up and then noticed that all or most of the links are just Colombian Radio. This template (and any that use this style) is bad as it duplicates links, links to non radio articles and to non-Medellin or even Colombian stations, or articles that don't mention Medellin at all. --Gonnym (talk) 08:03, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per above. Nigej (talk) 08:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Minnesota NCAA Division I college baseball venue navbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. Already deleted by -. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:42, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox linking loosely connected items. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Minnesota NCAA Division I college baseball venue navbox
 * Comment WP:ANOEP holds just as much validity as WP:NENAN. Delete as Minnesota has ONE D-I program and the articles are part of the venues section of Template:Minnesota Golden Gophers baseball navbox.No prejudice for recreation IF Minnesota one day has a sufficient number of D-I programs with pages for their baseball teams-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 19:45, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Miss Russia winners in the Big Four pageants

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The result of the discussion was delete. Already deleted by -. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:42, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:58, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Miss Russia winners in the Big Four pageants
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Template:Moldovan Footballer of the Year

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that links people with 1 common characteristic. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:57, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Moldovan Footballer of the Year
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 * Keep - no longer unused (I've added it to the articles, and the parent article) and is of a fairly common type found in football (see e.g. Premier League Player of the Season). GiantSnowman 15:36, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , some articles were added by GiantSnowman Hhkohh (talk) 16:53, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have struck the unused part of the nomination, but I still feel that this is WP:NAVBOXCREEP. You have to ask, if you are looking at the page for Serghei Rogaciov, how likely are you to want to jump over to Ion Testemițanu just because they won the same award... In my opinion, not likely... For that reason I'm not going to withdraw the nomination, but do appreciate the update that it is now in use! -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , so I did not !vote keep and not ask you to withdraw in this TfD. But I want to wait until other editors (apart from you or GS) commented it. Yes, too many navboxs will cause pages error and disruptive. Also, this kind of navboxs are not very standard. But since the navbox can connect these articles. I cannot vote !keep or !delete for now Hhkohh (talk) 11:02, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , sounds good! My only point was that I'm not going to withdraw this TFD as I have with others. I think this one warrants a discussion. :-)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:15, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I actually think that it is likely that a reader might want to look at another player who won the same award, and is actually quite standard for awards like this. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:46, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Moose Jaw Radio

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Now in use. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox linking radio stations in small area.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:54, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Moose Jaw Radio
 * I've remedied the lack of articles using the template. I forgot to add it to the pages when i made the template way back when... RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 04:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Morocco Alaouite Kings

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The result of the discussion was delete. Already deleted by -. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:44, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Morocco Alaouite Kings
 * Delete - Seems to have been superseded by Rulers of Morocco. Nigej (talk) 08:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:MissUSAs

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 05:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that is redundant to multiple, in use templates. MissUSAs 1980–1999, MissUSAs 2000–2019, Miss USA etc.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * MissUSAs
 *  Delete Reuse - Overkill. Nigej (talk) 08:43, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'd be inclined to delete the others and redirect to this one.  No need to arbitrarily split, when a single template would be preferable and offers superior navigation.  -- wooden  superman  08:59, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Better than 4 separate ones. What we don't need are 2 parallel lists. Nigej (talk) 09:31, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , that seems more than reasonable to me. If you both deem it appropriate, go ahead and make that change and then I will withdraw the TFD.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:16, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Done 2000 to date to see if anyone complains. Nigej (talk) 18:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Changed all the articles to use MissUSAs. The template itself now needs changing. Nigej (talk) 08:31, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Have redirected all to main template. -- wooden  superman  09:21, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep and use - delete others and not keep redirects, as the titles are very different than the end result - as in, MissUSAs 1952-1959 will not result in a list of only those winners appearing (WP:SURPRISE). --Gonnym (talk) 14:09, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Mosques in Lebanon

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 5. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:47, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Mosques_in_Lebanon
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Template:Mosques in Ireland

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with only 4 links. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Mosques in Ireland
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Template:Mosques in Mali
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with only 4 links. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Mosques in Mali
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Template:Mosques in South Korea
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The result of the discussion was keep. No longer unused, no longer violates WP:EXISTING. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that violates WP:EXISTING  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Mosques in South Korea
 * Comment: I've removed the red links, added blue links, and transcluded the template from all articles it links to. Granted, three entries plus the title topic is not very much. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as useful and now used. – Uanfala (talk) 03:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Most networked ICT countries
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that links directly to countries, not to a subpage related to this topic. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Most networked ICT countries
 * Delete - Unused, more than 10 years out of date, not well refined main article. Nigej (talk) 08:51, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Multiple BHCC champions
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that links people with very loose relationship. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Multiple BHCC champions
 * Delete - unused and a decade out of date. Perhaps surplus to British Hill Climb Champions. Would be better added as content in British Hill Climb Championship. Nigej (talk) 09:01, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Munich U-Bahn navbox
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox that simply collates a collation of other navboxes into one. Munich U-Bahn U1 navbox, Munich U-Bahn U2 navbox, etc... These are each implemented on the necessary pages. Putting them all in one template is just too much, plus it isn't used.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Munich U-Bahn navbox
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Template:Music venues in the United Kingdom
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) First and foremost an unused navbox. Secondly though this template is a disaster. NO offense meant towards anyone... The template is just very confusing. If it were to be used, it would really need to be blown up and started from scratch  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Music venues in the United Kingdom
 * Delete. Agreed.  An unnavigable jumble.  -- wooden  superman  09:03, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , I appreciate your attempt to clean it up... I see that even after trying to clean it up you reached the same conclusion.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:48, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, it's better now, but I still don't think it's that useful. Best left for categories I think.  -- wooden  superman  09:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:University of Pretoria F.C. squad
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:38, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused infobox with 25 plaintext names, (not links, not redlinks, just plaintext). The only name linked is the manager. This violates WP:EXISTING.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * University of Pretoria F.C. squad
 * Delete - does not navigate to anything. --Gonnym (talk) 08:12, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - another example of where we're trying to maintain a current squad for a relatively minor team. Nigej (talk) 09:26, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete - per nom, serves no purpose. GiantSnowman 15:37, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * delete per above Hhkohh (talk) 16:51, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:PTN in Indonesia
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:08, 25 March 2019 (UTC) Template is just a link to a single article. Doesn't meet WP:TG. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Nagoya Municipal Subway Kamiiida Line
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Nagoya Municipal Subway Kamiiida Line・Meitetsu Komaki Line. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:35, 4 April 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with only 3 links. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Nagoya Municipal Subway Kamiiida Line
 * Redirect to Template:Nagoya Municipal Subway Kamiiida Line・Meitetsu Komaki Line in which it is included. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:National Super League
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with mostly redlinks and plaintext. WP:EXISTING.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * National Super League
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 * Delete - these kind of league/competition navboxes can be notable, but I don't think we need this one. GiantSnowman 15:39, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:North Jersey
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox. There are are already navboxes in widespread use for each of the counties of New Jersey. No need to this as well. WP:NENAN.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:North Wiltshire
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Green Bay Packers Draft template list
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:39, 26 March 2019 (UTC) This is used in nemerous navboxes that appear on articles. This links not to the individual articles, but to the templates. This is cross namespace linking that is not done in articles.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Green Bay Packers Draft template list
 * Delete per nomination. I want to also add that there are more such templates at Category:National Football League draft footer templates. – Sabbatino (talk) 08:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This template is not displayed when the navboxes that utilize it are deployed on a page (example), and any back end navigational function it may be performing is merely duplicating the already existant category structure at Category:Green Bay Packers draft navigational boxes. I agree with Sabbatino that this should be a bundled nomination of everything in Category:National Football League draft footer templates, as all of those templates are equally non-useful. Ejgreen77 (talk) 18:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator's rationale. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @ 17:14, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I have no idea why anybody thought this would be a good idea in the first place. Obviously belongs in a category-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 16:18, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Trinity
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox. Covered both by Christian theology and Christianity footer  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:49, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Non-Aligned Movement chairpersons
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox linking people who held the same position. WP:NENAN  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Non-Aligned Movement chairpersons
 * Delete - per nom. Only loosely connected by being "chairpersons" in some undefined way. Nigej (talk) 19:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:KSH code
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 28. Primefac (talk) 15:05, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Nipple anatomy and disorders
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with no parent page.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:46, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Niagara River Lions current roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox template. The current roster is listed on the parent page using Basketball roster header etc.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:46, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New state and territory proposals Australia
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:34, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New Zealand national football team results
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with only 1 valid link. WP:EXISTING violated.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:33, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * New Zealand national football team results
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 15:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 15:39, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Even the one link (for 2010) redirects to New Zealand national football team results. Nigej (talk) 16:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * delete unnecessary Hhkohh (talk) 16:50, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Template has little to no use. 111.68.115.165 (talk) 05:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Nemzeti Bajnokság I (women's handball) teamlist
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 28. Primefac (talk) 14:44, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Nehru - Feroze Gandhi family
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with many redlinks.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Neoromance games
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Unused. No obvious content telling what us a neo-romance game is. Nigej (talk) 16:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New Orleans District 13
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) unused navbox with only redlinks and no parent article.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New Orleans District 11
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with only redlinks. No clear parent article. Possibly Eastern New Orleans but New Orleans East District  (which is the navbox title) does not exist.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New Orleans District 10
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC) Unused navbox with only 1 link. Parent article (Village de L'Est, New Orleans) is a redirect.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Module:WLink
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2019 (UTC) This module has two seperate usecases. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 15:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * WLink
 * 1) The use of the ansiPercent function to encode URLs. This should be moved to Module:String as it is a string-formatting function, not one having to do with wikilinks
 * 2) The use of the rest module as a former dependency of Module:Format TemplateData (originally called Module:TemplateData): see  above


 * See one above.
 * The Module:Format TemplateData used here is of 2017 and lacks a lot of recent functionality.
 * As soon as upgraded to a current version (e.g. to [ show intermediate headlines] on a very long parameter list, which is scrollable as well, navigating to headlines from TOC), all these dependencies will be required again.
 * You won't be able to rewrite each new release of Module:TemplateData and insert other function calls again and again.
 * Therefore, opposing as in 2018.
 * Regards --PerfektesChaos (talk) 21:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Module:Format TemplateData dependencies
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 14:43, 28 April 2019 (UTC) Imported as dependencies of Module:Format TemplateData (then called Module:TemplateData), which has been rewritten by me to no longer need them, so these modules are now unnecessary. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Multilingual
 * Text
 * See Module talk:Format TemplateData. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 16:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * (this was an import request from dewiki). — xaosflux  Talk 16:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Strange that they weren't pinged in the previous nomination but are now. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 16:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Please note that de:Module:TemplateData does many, many, many things more which you definitely don't have rewritten.
 * See doc for the full picture, which has been rewritten here only with a very poor and small piece of available functionality.
 * Wrt “Multilingual” issues please see [ Test case] or an internationalized global template on Bihari Wikpedia with [ Italian description], or [ Dutch], depending on current user language, or the similar thing in German Wikipedia but with [ English description].
 * Naturally I am opposing, since that is cutting down internationalized templates.
 * Note that you are using an 2017 fork of de:Module:TemplateData which lacks a lot of recent features, while the “rewritten” things are left at 2017 functionality and do not support newer developments.

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Template:Pentarchy
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Patriarchates. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 05:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Pentarchy with Template:Patriarchates.
 * Pentarchy
 * Patriarchates

Redundancy. All information provided by Template:Pentarchy is/should already be covered by Template:Patriarchates. PPEMES (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I agree that "Patriarchates" covers "Pentarchy". The first is very comprehensive and not really that easy to navigate. You have to spend time researching it! "Pentarchy" addresses a considerable smaller scope, is differently named (!), requires almost no study. It is a simple navigational template, classically named. "Patriarchates" is not a classical name, though it may be accurate for that template. Pentarchy meets a simpler need IMO. I would Keep Pentarchy. Student7 (talk) 16:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge - Patriarchates is used in 2 articles, Pentarchy in 27 or so. Seems crazy to have 2 templates. Patriarchates seems easy enough to use, the 5 patriarchates being given prominence. Nigej (talk) 17:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge if Pentarchy can be redirected here. It's a classic term, used within the Patriarchates template. (Changed my mind. See above) Student7 (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:MunicipalityNavigationBar
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC) No need for this as Navbox can be used instead. WOSlinker (talk) 13:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * MunicipalityNavigationBar
 * Navbox does not do what I wanted, so it is needed. Which policy arguments do you bring forward to support your proposal? Narwaro (talk) 14:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * delete, not needed, navbox will do the same thing with the proper options set. Frietjes (talk) 15:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, per above. Unused after 10 months. Nigej (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:The Young and the Restless characters
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:The Young and the Restless. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 05:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:The Young and the Restless characters with Template:The Young and the Restless.
 * The Young and the Restless characters
 * The Young and the Restless

Cast, characters and families lists are mentioned at both. Only the "related articles" section from The Young and the Restless is unique to that one, and could easily be added to The Young and the Restless characters to create a single navbox. Should be combined at the shorter title The Young and the Restless though. -- wooden superman  13:04, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 17:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Display
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. No strong support, and the sole voice of opposition makes some valid points about how the two templates operate and how that could affect a merger. NPASR if these concerns are addressed/met. Primefac (talk) 23:22, 1 May 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Display with Template:Show by date.
 * Display
 * Show by date

No need to have two separate templates for the purpose of showing text at specific times. Given that the template is used in MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages and therefore a TfD notice would show up on everyone's watchlist, I have noincluded the TfD tag. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 00:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Except Template:Display is not intended to be substituted? As indicated by its use in the watchlist notice? :) --Izno (talk) 00:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, meant Template:Show by date. (And, to reply to the edit summary, I decided the TfD tag should be noincluded shortly after starting the discussion) &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 00:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * If this goes ahead please ensure that Template:Display/watchlist is properly supported and moved to a suitable location &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:16, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment show by date is indeed subject to bot substitution when the by date has passed (e.g. 's ShowByDateSubster), a useful feature that should at least be retained by option if merged to display. Another possibility is to rename sbd to a variant like display-temp which will help bots to properly detect instances. Dl2000 (talk) 22:40, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Personally, if this is merged I'm hoping the merge goes the other way: keep show by date and merge display to it rather than the other way around. Anomie⚔ 22:54, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * As I was planning to do (I originally proposed this a deletion of Template:Display, but then realized that it did support some features that Template:Show by date didn't. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 22:57, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * On further examination, the templates provide substantially different functions - display displays one text between two given dates, show by date displays one of two texts depending on whether a single given date has passed. Not sure how these two distinct behaviours can easily be merged, and combined with the bot substitution differences, would oppose merge as planned. However, this need not prevent development of more elaborate date-sensitive text templates and functions, and without prejudice to making other adjustments such as changing the vaguely-named display to something like show between dates. Dl2000 (talk) 01:05, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Could an admin edit the log date on Template:Display? CoolSkittle  (talk) 05:24, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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