Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 April 23



Module:Duration

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The result of the discussion was delete. No prejudice against a "refund" to the user sandbox of the Module space if requested. Primefac (talk) 01:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Still unused 3 years later. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Duration
 * this module was written in enwiki, per someones's request. normally, i would not mind too much if it was deleted, except that it has several interwikis, and some wikis are actually using it. last time i looked, the Catalan one pretty heavily. since it was started here, i think it makes sense to leave the "source" of this module in place. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 20:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or move to it's user's sandbox they want it. There is no reason to keep an unused template or module. If other wikis use it and there is some kind of reason for the source to stay, then commons is probably the better place to keep such relics. --Gonnym (talk) 09:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Navbox Communism

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The result of the discussion was delete. No opposition. Primefac (talk) 01:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC) unused fork of template:Navbox Canada Frietjes (talk) 17:58, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Navbox Communism
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Template:IslamicMonths

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC) Propose merging Template:IslamicMonths with Template:Religious year in Islam.
 * IslamicMonths
 * Religious year in Islam

Please see below. PPEMES (talk) 10:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC) The second template doesn't seem to exist.— Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 19:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It's suggested that the merged template should have a new name after the merge. PPEMES (talk) 08:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose calling the months for years. It could be moved without TfD to a non-camelCase name. E.g. to "Months of the Islamic calendar" Christian75 (talk) 09:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If you don't call 12 months a year in English, what do you call that? PPEMES (talk) 09:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. Cf. Template:Liturgical year of the Catholic Church. PPEMES (talk) 10:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The liturgical year (aka as the Christian year) is not about the name of the months. A template you could compare it with is Months. Christian75 (talk) 23:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * None of them is to my knowledge about more or less than a year. And they don't concern anything else more than religion, to my knowledge. Your template says "of the year". PPEMES (talk) 09:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
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Template:IslamicMonths sidebar

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2020 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Muslimmonths with Template:Religious year in Islam.
 * IslamicMonths sidebar
 * Religious year in Islam

Please see below. PPEMES (talk) 10:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:56, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment. Cf. Template:Liturgical year of the Catholic Church. PPEMES (talk) 10:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. The idea is to merge it with Template:IslamicMonths as discussed above, and then rename it in accordance with proper merged content. PPEMES (talk) 08:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

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Template:Educational years
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 01:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Educational years with Template:Schools.
 * Educational years
 * Schools

If also this information could be integrated per the overview consolidation rationale below, perhaps this would bring about an even more achived final, collected template? PPEMES (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:55, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge. The Schools template should cover this. --Gonnym (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose if anything, School type should be splitted to a navigation boxes which you can have on one screen. I'm against theese navigation boxes which tries to cover everything - like one box for schools worldwide. Christian75 (talk) 09:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This template is not aiming to cover every school around the world. It is trying to give a general overview of the topic. Are you saying the section "By educational stage" should be forked into a standalone template? How would that be helpful? If not, why should not "Educational years" be merged into that section? PPEMES (talk) 10:13, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge. In this case it makes sense to add it to the larger template. I think readers viewing the smaller template will be interested in content held in the overall template, so I support this merge. --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:07, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose While finding both the templates in the need of a rewrite. Why. Read thoroughly the article International Standard Classification of Education which gives a global perspective on Educational stages, and the titles given to schools outside ones home area. You will notice in the article that UNESCO took two attempts to get it right- we follow their lead, and document the divisions not attempt to do WP:OR — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 16:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Education stages
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 01:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Education stages with Template:Schools.
 * Education stages
 * Schools

Template:Education stages is quite beautifully designed. Yet, it is ultimately arguebly redundant if properly merged into the section "By educational stage" in Template:Schools. Vice versa, the "By educational stage" section in Template:Schools could be more conveniently and pedagogically illustrated - as seen in Template:Education stages. On a sidenote, we have Template:Education. Perhaps the final name of the here above nominated merge should have another name than Template:Schools? Not sure. Plain final second step merge with Template:Education would bring about a too large template, I'm afraid, that wouldn't make sense. On a further note, perhaps lastly some information in Template:Education stages/sandbox could be integrated? PPEMES (talk) 08:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful if you could mock up what you are proposing the final result would look like before nominating the templates for merging, as the above is rather unclear. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Excuse. 1) Merge Template:Education stages while replacing section "By educational stage" in Template:Schools. Then perhaps 2) consider merging that merged content into Template:Education at a later stage? Does that make sense? PPEMES (talk) 12:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No. Mockup please. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Isn't there content in the "by educational stage" group that is not contained in Template:Education stages? Where would that go? --Bsherr (talk) 22:44, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:55, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge. Such a huge template for so few links. Schools (which is a bad name) can and should cover the links there (without the extra design). --Gonnym (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that the name could be better. However, the table design of Template:Education stages I find quite helpful. Couldn't it be implemented in a proper section within the destination template? With slightly added contents, of course, after merging some contents as proposed. PPEMES (talk) 09:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally find it a horrible design. It's a navbox, not an article. It's supposed to be small and simple and not take a huge amount of white (blue) space. --Gonnym (talk) 23:17, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose (Repeat from above) While finding both the templates in the need of a rewrite. Why. Read thoroughly the article International Standard Classification of Education which gives a global perspective on Educational stages, and the titles given to schools outside ones home area. You will notice in the article that UNESCO took two attempts to get it right- we follow their lead, and document the divisions not attempt to do WP:OR — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 16:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm not seeing a clear enough path for a merger right now. I'm increasingly interested in nominations that don't set forth such details. --Bsherr (talk) 23:43, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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Template:2020 coronavirus pandemic curfews
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 May 1. Primefac (talk) 01:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_curfews
 * 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_lockdowns
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